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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION
Minutes of March 16, 2011
Chairperson Massa - Lavitt called the regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning
Commission to order at 7:30 p.m. on Wednesday, March 16, 2011. The meeting was
held in the City Council Chambers and began with the Salute to the Flag.'
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Massa - Lavitt, Commissioners Cummings, Everson, and
Galbreath
Also
Present: Department of Development Services
Mark Persico, Director of Development Services
Jerry Olivera, Senior Planner
Quinn Barrow, City Attorney
Absent: Commissioner Bello
Mr. Persico noted that Commissioner Bello would not be in attendance tonight and
requested a motion to excuse her absence.
MOTION by Galbreath; SECOND by Cummings to excuse Commissioner Bello from the
Planning Commission meeting of March 16, 2011.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0-1
AYES: Massa - Lavitt, Cummings, Everson, and Galbreath
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bello
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairperson Massa - Lavitt opened oral communications.
Seth Eaker noted that the Health & Wellness Expo will take place on Saturday, March
19, 2011, at the Shops at Rossmoor. He then invited business owners and members of
the public to participate in the Wednesday Morning Networking Walk. Mr. Eaker also
reminded everyone of the Seal Beach 5/1 OK scheduled for Saturday, April 2, 2011. He
ended by speaking in support of Conditional Use Permit 11 -1 for Angelo's Italian Deli.
These Minutes were transcribed from audiotape of the meeting.
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There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Massa - Lavitt closed oral
communications.
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Galbreath; SECOND by Everson to approve the Agenda as presented.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0-1
AYES: Massa- Lavitt, Cummings, Everson, and Galbreath
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bello
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Approve Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of March 2, 2011
MOTION by Cummings; SECOND by Everson to approve the Consent Calendar as
presented.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0-1
AYES: Massa - Lavitt, Cummings, Everson, and Galbreath
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bello
SCHEDULED MATTERS
2. Adopt Resolution 11 -3 Approving Conditional Use Permit 11 -1 for Angelo's Italian
Deli at 133 Main Street.
Staff Report
Mr. Olivera stated that, as directed at the previous meeting, Staff has returned with the
completed Resolution 11 -3 for Angelo's Italian Deli. He noted a correction to Condition
No. 5, limiting total seating within the business to 10 seats.
Commissioner Cummings recommended changing the wording in Condition No. 4 to
read: "There shall be no exterior advertisements on the premises indicating the
availability of beer and wine. Interior advertisements shall not be directed toward the
exterior of the premises."
MOTION by Everson; SECOND by Cummings to adopt Resolution 11 -3 as amended.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0-1
AYES: Massa - Lavitt, Cummings, Everson, and Galbreath
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bello
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1 Mr. Barrow advised that the adoption of Resolution No. 11 -3 begins a 10 -day calendar
2 appeal period to the City Council. The Commission action tonight is final and the appeal
3 period begins tomorrow morning.
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5 3. Determination of Zoning Pursuant to Chapter 11.5.05 — Patio Covers /Enclosures
6 within Residential Zones.
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10 Mr. Olivera noted that historically Staff has treated patio enclosures with four walls as
11 "habitable space," and under the Zoning Code these structures are not permitted for
12 nonconforming properties. He indicated that the California Building Code (CBC) defines
13 this type of construction as a "patio cover" rather than patio enclosure, while Staff has
14 historically indentified a patio cover as a solid roof structure that is open on at least two
15 sides. Due to this discrepancy in definitions, Staff is presenting this issue to the
16 Planning Commission for its determination.
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18 Commissioner Questions
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20 Commissioner Everson inquired about whether these structures are defined by square
21 footage. Mr. Olivera stated that it is defined as habitable square footage if the structure
22 has a roof and is completely enclosed. If the structure has a roof, but is not completely
23 enclosed, Staff has counted this toward the lot coverage, but has not counted it as
24 habitable square footage. He noted the CBC defines everything as a patio cover
25 whether it is a solid roof structure with open sides or is completely enclosed.
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27 Chairperson Massa - Lavitt clarified that if something is silent in the Zoning Code then it
28 would not be permitted. Mr. Persico stated that this is correct. She noted that the
29 definition for a covered patio mentions nothing about being enclosed, and the CBC is a
30 separate document used to regulate how a building is constructed. Mr. Persico noted
31 that the CBC is also performance based and looks at fire, life, and safety, so the
32 requirement for a percentage of open space on two sides of the enclosure would still
33 allow for exiting in the event of fire. The Zoning Code (ZC) looks at public health and
34 safety issues, but also aesthetics and whether this space could be converted into
35 something for which it was not originally intended.
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37 Commissioner Everson stated that the PC should adopt the City's own language for
38 patio covers based upon an assessment of the needs of community.
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40 Public Comments
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42 Mark Hjelm stated that his mother -in -law resides in a studio apartment above his garage
43 which has an open deck. He wishes to enclose this deck to create a screened -in patio
44 so that she may enjoy the fresh air within a shaded patio.
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Commissioner Comments
Commissioner Cummings noted that it appears that further clarification needs to be
incorporated in the definition of a patio cover.
Chairperson Massa - Lavitt requested comments from the Commission on whether the
preference would be for enclosed or covered patios.
Commissioner Cummings stated that she does not believe that the Commission has
enough information available to make a recommendation.
Chairperson Massa - Lavitt noted that in these matters the City Zoning Code (ZC) would
prevail.
The Commission agreed that Staff should return with more information at the April 20,
2011 Planning Commission meeting and provide some options for consideration of this
issue.
Chairperson Massa - Lavitt so ordered that this item be continued to the scheduled
Planning Commission meeting of April 20, 2011, for further discussion.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Variance 10 -3
1608 Ocean Avenue
Applicant/Owner: Mark Wheeler / Susan Mallett- Rodgers
Request: To permit a 578 -sq. ft. room addition and a 149 -sq. ft. deck
addition to an existing, non - conforming single - family dwelling
within the Residential High Density (RHD) Zone. The
property is non - conforming due to an inadequate rear yard
setback from the alley (required setback is 12' -0 "; existing
setback is 4' -0 "). The applicant wishes to maintain the
garage in its present location with the 4' -0" rear setback.
Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of Resolution
10 -47.
Staff Report
Mr. Olivera delivered the staff report. He provided information on this item and noted
that this property is unique in that it has an approximate 56 -foot front yard setback, and
after the proposed addition the setback would be approximately 41 feet. He indicated
that the existing garage would remain in its current location, as moving it to conform to
the 12 -foot rear setback standard would require total demolition of the home.
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Commissioner Questions
Commissioner Everson requested clarification of proposed Conditions of Approval Nos.
2 and 3. Mr. Olivera explained each condition as follows:
Condition No. 2 - Staff is recommending that the stairway be removed because the
Zoning Code (ZC) specifically prohibits exterior stairs to a second
floor where not required by the California Building Code (CBC).
Condition No. 3 - These setbacks conform to the plan that the applicant is presenting,
and Staff wishes to ensure that this applicant or a future owner
could not continue to add to the structure without bringing the
structure into conformance with the current ZC.
Commissioner Cummings noted that retaining the stairway would be essential for safe
exit in the event of an emergency. Commission Galbreath agreed.
Public Hearing
Chairperson Massa - Lavitt opened the public hearing.
Mark Wheeler, designer for the proposed addition, emphasized the even with the
addition the home at 1,525 sq. ft. would still be much smaller than what is allowed and
what is generally built in Old Town. He noted that the existing 29 -ft. distance between
the face of Ms. Rodgers' garage and allows sufficient room for backing out of the
garage and has not presented an impediment to traffic along Seal Way. He then
requested approval to retain the existing exterior stairway, noting that this allows access
to the public living areas on the 2 nd floor and serves as the primary entrance to the
house.
Melba Linnell, 1614 Ocean Avenue, stated that she lives next door to 1608 Ocean
Avenue and the original building does not have a 3 -ft. side setback. She asked if this
could be corrected. Mr. Olivera stated that after taking the measurements between
these two properties, he found that at the narrowest point the setback measures 2 ft. 8
in., which would be considered to be substantially in compliance.
Charmin Snow, 1625 Seal Way, spoke in opposition to Variance 10 -3 stating that Seal
Way has 13 lots within one block that do not have the required 12 -ft. setback and this
may set a precedence.
Nancy Kredell, 1615 Seal Way, said the garage should be moved to create the required
12 -ft. setback as garage access and parking along the alley is a serious problem.
Joe Kalmick, 1603 Seal Way, spoke in support of Variance 10 -3 stating that simply
correcting the rear setback would not eliminate the parking of vehicles within the
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1 setback area, which in itself creates parking problems. He indicated that the current
2 setback does not impede emergency access along Seal Way.
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4 Joyce Parque spoke in support of Variance 10 -3 and stated that problems with cars
5 parking along the alleys are experienced by all residents in Old Town.
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7 Charmin Snow stated that access for emergency vehicles is impeded along Seal Way
8 and there is no other access route to these homes.
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10 Sharon Brown, 1608 Ocean Avenue, stated that she has lived at this address for over 4
11 years and has never witnessed problems with emergency vehicles having access along
12 Seal Way. She indicated that the outside staircase is necessary to gain access to the
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15 1606 Ocean Avenue, spoke in support of Variance 10 -3 and
16 recommended retaining the exterior stairway.
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18 Susie Rodgers, owner of 1608 Ocean Avenue, stated that she does not park in the rear
19 setback, but uses the garage. She indicated that she has carefully planned the
20 proposed additions and does not wish to build a large home and wishes to retain the
21 large front setback. She stated that the exterior stairway is necessary for a safe exit in
22 an emergency as well as for access to the home.
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24 There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Massa -Lavitt closed the public
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29 Commissioner Galbreath stated that denying Variance 10 -3 due to the 4 -ft. setback
30 would not be practical, and he has no problem with allowing the staircase to remain.
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32 Commissioner Everson stated that the garage accommodates 2 cars and he feels
33 confident that Ms. Rodgers will continue to use it for parking. He added that this is not
34 the only property along Seal Way with a less- than - required setback, and denying this
35 application would not alleviate parking problems on this street. He asked if the stairway
36 were to remain, would this affect Condition 3. Mr. Persico stated that allowing the
37 stairway to remain would not affect Condition 3, as the proposed setbacks apply
38 specifically to the deck and the wall and not the stairway. He recommended removing
39 the last phase in Condition 2, which would allow Condition 3 to remain.
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41 MOTION by Cummings; SECOND by Galbreath to approve Variance 10 -3, subject to
42 conditions, to allow the exterior stairway to remain, and modify Condition 2 as indicated.
43 Adopt Resolution 10 -47 as amended.
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45 MOTION CARRIED: 4-0-1
46 AYES: Massa - Lavitt, Cummings, Everson, and Galbreath
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1 NOES: None
2 ABSENT: Bello
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4 Mr. Barrow advised that the adoption of Resolution No. 10 -47 begins a 10 -day calendar
5 appeal period to the City Council. The Commission action tonight is final and the
6 appeal period begins tomorrow morning.
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8 DIRECTOR'S REPORT
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10 Mr. Persico reported on the following items:
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12 1. April 6, 2011, meeting cancelled
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14 2. April 20, 2011, meeting:
15 a. Conditional Use Permit 11 -2 — 12541 Seal Beach Blvd (Rite Aid)
16 b. Conditional Use Permit 11 -3 — 112 Main Street (Seal Beach Liquor)
17 C. Conditional Use Permit 11 -4 — 12365 Seal Beach Blvd (In -N -Out)
18 d. Workshop - Proposition 84 Grant Funds for Marina Park Development
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20 COMMISSION CONCERNS
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22 Chairperson Massa - Lavitt requested an update on the movement to have a grocery
23 store at the Leisure World Shopping Center. Mr. Persico stated that he met with a
24 number of Golden Rain Foundation Board members, as well as some members of
25 Leisure World mutuals. Also, two meetings were conducted at City Hall with the owner
26 of the shopping center, Burnham Properties USA, and with the existing lease holder,
27 CVS, who is anxious to sublease the space, but has had difficulty in gaining tenant
28 interest.
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30 Commissioner Galbreath asked if the entrance to the proposed In -N -Out would be off of
31 Seal Beach Boulevard. Mr. Persico stated that access would be off the main driveway
32 into the Shops at Rossmoor. Commissioner Galbreath then asked where the entrance
33 to the new Rite Aid would be. Mr. Persico indicated that there would be two driveways,
34 one on St. Cloud and one on Seal Beach Boulevard. Commissioner Cummings asked
35 where the drive -thru prescription window would be located. Mr. Persico said it would be
36 on the north side of the building. He noted that it is good that both items will appear on
37 the same agenda so that they can be discussed at one time. Chairperson Massa - Lavitt
38 recommended moving the update report on the Regency Center to the agenda for the
39 meeting of May 4, 2011.
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41 Commissioner Everson suggested that Staff create Code language that would allow for
42 an exemption for exterior stairways or that allows them under certain conditions. Mr.
43 Persico stated that Staff is creating a list of Code amendments and proposes to review
44 these items with the Planning Commission on a bi- annual basis.
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ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Massa - Lavitt adjourned the meeting at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Carmen Alvarez, Executive AssisiwT
Planning Department
APPROVBI
The Commission on approved the Minutes of the Planning Commission
Meeting of Wednesday, March 16, 2011.
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