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July 24, 2016
Dear Council Members:
RE: CUP 15-7 LA Fitness Gym hearing on 7/25/16
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As a 45 year resident, investor and property owner from Old Town Seal Way and Montecito Road condos my
tenants and I have strong objections to having the LA Fitness Gym placed directly behind.the condo buildings or
Montecito Road in Seal Beach.
There are numerous safety, emergency, noise, pollution, parking EIR and CEQA issues that merit further studie:
It was also stated in a meeting that an additional 800 -900 vehicle trips would generate from the LA fitness gym.
However a 24 Hour Gym management person told me that the Katella Avenue club generates approximately
70,000 monthly visits and the nearby Long Beach dub generates 60,000 plus monthly visits. This would increa:
the traffic flow to over 2,000 vehicle daily trips and this is unacceptable.
Residents have also complained to the Shops at Rossmoor about the nuisance and intrusion created by not
properly shielding the rear parldng lamp posts that shine directly into the Rossmoor Regency condo units. Why
has this matter not been corrected after years? It will get worse with a gym!
In conclusion, for many reasons this gym would serve the entire community much better if it was located
elsewhere.
Sincerely,
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' Michael A. Norton
7/25/201
Gmail �q� l I- /'b�h�^��� Kevin Pearce <diamondpearce @gmail.com>
Nextdoor LA Fitness Poll taken by Scott Myles
1 message
David Burgess <gfdave @hotmail.com> Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 5:10 AM
To: Kevin Pearce <diamondpearce @gm ail. com>
FYI
Nextdoor Neighbor Website
LA Fitness Poll Ended May 31, 2016
Opposed 160 81%
In Favor 37 19%
Totals 197 100%
We as residents of Seal Beach object to the construction of a
37,200 sq. ft. health club for the following reasons.
1- It will impede access to emergency responders due to increase
congestion .
2. The increased noise and pollution will interfere our peaceful
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5; "Bob Laio "; "boblaioone @gmail.com ";; "2016- 07 -06"
6; "Susie Laio'; "boblaione @gmail.com ";; "2016- 07 -06"
7; "Craig Justice "; "craigjustice @twc.com ";; "2016- 07 -06"
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9; "Brad Gill "; "gillhardscapel @yahoo.com ";; "2016- 07 -06"
10; "Cara Gill "; "gillhardscapel @yahoo.com ";; "2016- 07 -06"
11; "Gina Phillips "; "gina.phillips @delfia.com "; "4725 Candleberry Ave "; "2016 -07 -06"
12; "Judith L Granger "; "grangerjudy5 @gmail.com "; "12536 Montecito Road"; "2016-07-13
13; "Esmeralda Hernandez- Hamed "; "hernandezesmer24 @gmail.com "; "12200 Montecito Rd. G105 "; "20
14; "Jenise E. Tim "; "Timjenise@gmail.com "; "12200 Monteciio rd. Apt g204 seal beach 90740 "; "2016 -07
15; "Kris Hu Unit G204 Seal Beach CA 90740 "; "2016- 07 -18"
16; "Janine Spatz "; "J9sdlite @hotmail.com "; "12200 Montecito Rd E102 SB 90740 "; "2016- 07 -18"
18; "Audrey Weis "; "zeldamomma @yahoo.com "; "12200 Montecito Rd B204 "; "2016 -07 -20"
19; "Kevin Pearce "; "diamondpearce @gmail.com "; "12052 Montecito Rd.'; "2016 -07 -21"
20; "Tracy Pearce "; "tcabpearce @gmail.com "; "12052 Montecito Rd. "; "2016- 07 -21"
21; "Christine Teng "; "cjteng2 @yahoo.com "; "3301 Druid Lane "; "2016- 07 -21"
22; "Jason 1 Rossmoor CA 90720 "; "2016 -07 -21"
23; "susan Taylor "; "susan.taylor389 @gmail.com "; "11521 Davenport Road "; "2016- 07 -21"
24; "Lorna F Rossmoor CA 90720 "; "2016- 07 -21"
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26; "Diane gold berg "; "dbgmom @hotmail.com "; "3332 Druid In'; "2016- 07 -21"
27; "Henrie Rossmoor CA 90720 "; "2016 -07 -21"
28; "Muriel Eckelman "; "murbriet @aol.com "; "12200 Montecito Rd B203 "; "2016- 07 -21"
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31; "Susan Haggard'; "sphsusan @aol.com'; "3122 Yellowtail dr "; "2016- 07 -21"
32; "Susan Haggard "; "sphsusan @aol.com "; "3122 Yellowtail dr "; "2016- 07 -21"
33; "Lynn Si Rossmoor CA 90270 "; "2016- 07 -21"
34; "Ann Cc rossmoor ca 90720 "; "2016- 07 -21"
35; "Sothan Rossmoor 90720 "; "2016- 07 -21"
36; "Vannar Rossmoor 90720 "; "2016- 07 -22"
37; "Vannar Rossmoor 90720 "; "2016- 07 -22"
38; "Harry Pieczenik "; "HPIECZENIK @LBSCHOOLS.NET "; "12200 MONTECITO RD E204 "; "2016 -07 -22"
39; "Steve Collins "; "scobra409 @gmaii.com "; "3242 mainway dr rossmoor "; "2016- 07 -23"
40; "Robert Seal Beach CA 90740 "; "2016- 07 -23"
41; "Elizabeth Piburn "; "bpiburn @verizon.net "; "12300 Montecito rd #48 Seal Beach CA 90740 "; "2016 -07
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43; "Karen Musick "; "Kazangel23 @gmail.com "; "12512 Montecito Rd.'; "2016- 07 -23"
44; "Karen Musick "; "Kazangel23 @gmail.com "; "12512 Montecito Rd. "; "2016- 07 -23"
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46; "Lana Yi Seal Beach CA 90740 "; "2016- 07 -23"
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48; "Erin Jones "; "Eas1976 @yahoo.com "; "12200 Montecito Road c204% "2016- 07 -23"
49; "Justin Jones "; "Jjonesont @yahoo.com "; "12200 Montecito road c204 "; "2016- 07 -23"
50; "Judith L Granger "; "grangerjudy5 @gmail.com "; "12536 Montecito Road "; "2016- 07 -23"
51; "Judith L Granger ";" grangerjudy5 @gmail.com "; "12536 Montecito Road";" 2016-07-23"
52; "Judith L Granger ";" grangerjudy5 @gmail.com "; "12536 Montecito Road";" 2016-07-23
53; "Tiffany Sickler " ; "Tsickler @kfh.org "; "12200 Montecito Rd L105 "; "2016- 07 -23"
54; "Gary G CA 90740 "; "2016- 07 -23"
55; "Kevin Kelly "; "ktkelly @ymail.com "; "12200 Montecito Road B310'; "2016- 07 -23"
56; "Kevin Kelly "; "ktkelly @ymail.com "; "12200 Montecito Road "; "2016- 07 -23"
57; "Kevin Kelly "; "Ktkelly @ymail.com "; "12200 Montecito Road";" 2016-07-23"
58; "Carmen vera "; "Cveraml5 @gmail.com "; "12200 Montecito rd "; "2016 -07 -24"
59; "Michel Rossmoor CA 90720 "; "2016- 07 -24"
60; "Keith S Seal Beach CA 90740 "; "2016- 07 -24"
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62; "Krissy Bolton'; "Bolton- 4 @verizon.net "; "3012 Brimhall Dr Rossmoor "; "2016- 07 -24"
63; "Ruben A Hernandez "; "mathme777 @gmail.com "; "12520 Montecito Rd. "; "2016- 07 -24"
64; "Maria G Hernandez "; "mayasmom09 @yahoo.com "; "12520 Montecito Rd. "; "2016- 07 -24"
65; "Doroth Rossmoor "; "2016- 07 -24"
66; "Thoma Rossmoor "; "2016- 07 -24"
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71; "Natalie Adkins "; "nataliejo @juno.com "; "12200 Montecito Road ";"2016-07-24"
72; "Ben W Seal Beach CA 90740 "; "2016 -07 -25"
73; "Jana Y( Seal Beach CA 90740 "; "2016- 07 -25"
74; "Suzette Aguilar "; "S.aguilar_22 @hotmail.com "; "12400 Montecito Rd. #409 "; "2016- 07 -25"
75; "Jacaranda Cabada "; "Ja.cabada @gmail.com "; "12400 Montecito rd. #409'; "2016- 07 -25"
76; "Sandra Futami "; "Sandrafut @verizon.net "; "12161 silver fox road "; "2016- 07 -25"
77; "Kyle Bader "; "Kyle.bader @gmail.com% "12200 Montecito Rd. #6102 "; "2016- 07 -25"
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We as residents of Seal Beach object to the construction of a
37,200 sq. ft. health club for the following reasons.
1- It will impede access to emergency responders due to increase
congestion .
2. The increased noise and pollution will interfere our peaceful
enjoyment of our homes and affect our quality of life.
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7 -25 -16 Seal Beach City Council outline: Agenda Item L
Thomas Cripps, Rossmoor Park, 12200 Montecito Rd,
Our petition indicates an insincere commitment by the City to the CEQA process.
Perhaps a shortage of city staff leads to City Boards and Council having a greater
reliance on developer expert advice and reports, who have a vested interest in
the project approval.
A good example are the curt responses by City hired MIG consultants. MIG used
general master responses that did not address the details of many public
comments. I for one over a two month period prepared five mitigation requests
totaling 20 pages, that were dismissed with a referral to the master response.
No change in the IS /MND resulted. The Director of Community Development we
believe should have been more diligent.
We have two more detailed examples of over reliance by the Planning
Commission on expert data in approving the health club project.
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1. Commissioner Thomas in his deciding 3 -2 vote approving the health club
project assumed in his comments that traffic impact modeling data has
the same precision as traffic engineering data. I can vouch from my
professional experience working with and contributing data to the OC
MPAH that is not the case. Many assumptions are made in the modeling
process which become less reliable at the lower geographic levels such as
the health club within the shopping center, even though the model is
calibrated to observed data.
A few days before the PC hearing, with some difficulty I found the table with the
existing traffic flow along RCW. Please see graph page 4.
1. With some effort I was able to produce a more user friendly graphic version
of the table of these traffic volumes, showing the total daily volume as
3,017 trips. They were taken on a Thurs, Nov. 2014.
2. The two boxes show the volumes referred to in the traffic study as the am
and pm peak periods. The are 228 am and 253 pm trips respectively.
These are the critical volumes referenced throughout the intersection and
queuing analysis.
Please refer to the second graph page.
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These counts from the North Seal Beach Blvd. traffic analysis, were taken two
years earlier Tues March 2012for the same stretch of RCW between SBB and
Montecito on a weekday by the same company.
You will note all the volumes are much higher 8,756 total daily volume.
The Am and Pm peak being 341 and 708 respectively.
The variation between these two identical studies performed by the same
company two years provides support to doubt some of the viability of the
Planning Commissioner decision to approve the health club based on such
traffic data.
Note: The higher peak period data from the 2012 study is more consistent with
the IS /MND mitigation for the intersection at SBB /RCW.
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An example of deceptive data is the LSA traffic engineer Donson Liu in his rebuttal
of my public comments. He claimed claimed the less than 10 peak hour trips at
the RPOA auto exit were insignificant and need not be included with the east side
project driveway traffic volume flows.
Please refer to aerial view and intersection diagram of the RPOA auto exit onto
RCW, directly opposite the east drive way intersection of the health club.
Donson in using the 10 trip criteria did not allow for the fact that this RPOA auto
exit for 260 carports represents only the exiting half volume. Using data from the
east side driveway of SBB used by the Old Ranch Community 82 residences we
can safely conservatively estimate RPOA single outflow daily traffic as 200 trips at
least. The Old ranch traffic flow data in one direction is in fact at times below the
10 trip criteria used by Donson.
This and earlier traffic comments justify more consideration emergency
response and safety noted by Margaret and Craig earlier concerning our RPOA
auto gates exit to Rossmoor Center Way and even entrance from Montecito
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Even though North Seal Beach residents directly impacted by the health club are
less than 5% of the total city population, we deserve some consideration for
bearing the burden of the two major shopping center developments over the
past 16 yrs. in 2000 it is documented City utility tax on telephone, electricity
and gas use was lowered from 11% to 9.5% because of the revenue received
from the Old Ranch Towne Center. All in the City have benefitted from these
revenues. The present tax equals the highest in the state and will be on the
Nov. ballot to be lowered.
If this health club were proposed say where the present B/A is locate in old
town, we are sure the Council will have paid more attention. We few in the
north are helping you preserve your old town.
We request to uphold the appeal,
reject resolution 6670 and overturn resolution 16 -13.
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Source is the 9th Edition of Trip Generation handbook from the Institute of
Transportation Engineers
Using 37,000 square feet for the club.
For Health /Fitness Clubs (which is land use code 492) on weekdays
Two ways to think about volume loading.
One relates to the street next to the gym — what is the traffic in /out of the
gym when the street has the most traffic?
• For morning peak hour on the adjacent street (the highest hourly
traffic volume between 7 and 9 a.m.) you could expect 50 to 60 trips
i For evening peak hour on the adjacent street (the highest hourly
traffic volume between 4 and 6 p.m.) you could expect 130 to 140 trips
The other way — what is the traffic in /out of the gym during the highest
traffic time for the gym?
• For the morning highest volume hour in and out of the gym, you could
expect between 50 and 60 trips (not many studies related to this area)
6 For the evening highest volume hour in and out of the gym, you could
expect between 150 and 160 trips
* Information from latest edition of Trip Generation handbook from the Institute
of Transportation Engineers.
* Developer's traffic engineer, Donson Liu, had numbers that were much lower.
*Mr. Liu stated no one from LSA or anyone from the developer's team had done
a formal traffic study regarding the proposed LA Fitness development.
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