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From: stephen wontrobski <constructionclaims @yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:18 PM
To: Robin Roberts; Clerk - City of Los Alamitos quintanar
Subject: OCFA /OCERS Pension UAAL Red Flag Alert
Attachments: ocfauaalredflagalert8- 23- 16.doc; wood ruffcityuaa Ilia bility2- 25- 16.doc;
ocfauaalcityliabilityl- 29- 16.doc
Dear City Clerks of Seal Beach and Los Alamitos,
Attached is my written public comment for your next city council meeting and prior informational distribution to your
City Council members.
These letters were previously issued to the OCFA Board of Directors and contain information applicable to your city.
1. August 23, 2016 letter addressing: OCFA /OCERS Pension UAAL Red Flag Alert
2. February 25, 2016 letter addressing: OCFA Member Cities' Pension Liability
3. January 29, 2016 letter addressing OCFA UAAL - Member City and County Liability
Sincerely,
Stephen Wontrobski
Stephen M. Wontrobski
27132 Sombras
Mission Viejo, CA 92692
August 23, 2016
Board of Directors
Orange County Fire Authority
I Fire Authority Road
Irvine, CA 92602
Reference: OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL Red Flag Alert
Member City Managers, Attorneys and Council Members Notice of Red Flag Alert
Dear Board Members:
The issue of OCFA member city and County ultimate liability for the OCFA Pension UAAL at OCERS
came into the spotlight once again at the August 15, 2016 OCERS Board of Directors meeting.
August 15, 2016 OCERS Board of Directors Meeting
At the August 15, 2016 OCERS Board of Directors meeting, OCFA Assistant Chief Lori Zeller told the
OCERS Board that:
a) Contract city members of the OCFA JPA have no OCERS /OCFA Pension UAAL liability because
they are "contract" city members. (Contract member cities have longed believed that they have no
liability of any nature for the OCERS /OCFA Pension UAAL, simply because they were contract
cities and not structural fund (SFF) member cities.)
b) Structural fund members of the OCFA also have no OCERS /OCFA Pension UAAL liability.
(This statement is based on the OCFA's attorney opinion that the JPA agreement shields the SFF
member cities and the County from the UAAL liability of the OCFA. In turn, this opinion is
based on the JPA Agreement clause stating that parties to the JPA Agreement have no liability for
the liabilities of the OCFA.)
City Managers and City Attorneys Red Flag Warnin¢
The views expressed by Ms. Zeller are at complete odds with the legal position of OCERS. Please be
mindful of the following facts that you should verify.
I. The OCFA Attorney's written opinion is solely supported by Contract Law reasoning. It contains
no reference or discussion of Pension and Bankruptcy Law.
2. The issue of OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL liability ultimately centers on Pension and
Bankruptcy Law, not Contract Law.
3. Neither the OCFA attorney nor his law firm have recognized experience in the areas of
Bankruptcy or Pension Law.
4. Both the OCERS attorney and his law firm are recognized authorities in the areas of Bankruptcy
and Pension Law.
5. OCERS has previously issued a legal position on this issue. In a report to the OCERS Board
earlier this year, OCERS stated that OCFA SFF and contract city members and the County have
ultimate liability for the OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL.
Current August 15, 2016 OCERS Board of Directors Meeting Legal Opinion
In the August 15, 2016 OCERS Board of Directors Meeting, the OCERS attorney stated:
1. SFF member cities and the County are ultimately liability for the OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL.
2. OCFA contract member cities are also ultimately liable for the OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL.
3. Contract or SFF member cities cannot escape OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL liability by simply
withdrawing from the OCFA in 2018 or any other date. These withdrawing member cities would
be still liable for the OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL incurred prior to their withdrawal. OCERS
would have to present them with an amount as to what payment would be required to relieve them
of their past OCFA/OCERS UAAL liability.
Implications of the Potential Impact of the OCERS Legal Holding
If the OCERS legal opinion is correct, the following issues immediately rise to the surface.
1. Contract cities have long maintained that because they are "contract" cities they are not
responsible for any UAAL liability. This opinion does not seem to carry any current weight.
2. Many contact member cities are financially strapped cities, and this adds further liability exposure
issues to their financial condition.
3. SFF member cities and the County are granted some relief, since they would no longer be the sole
providers of any potential OCFA/OCERS UAAL relief. The contract cities would now have to
share in this financial responsibility.
4. SFF member cities, contract member cities and the County are responsible for any ultimate
OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL liability. This opinion is completely at odds with the OCFA
attorney opinion.
5. Under California law would the JPA Agreement provision, regarding no member city and County
exposure for OCFA/OCERS pension liabilities, be held to be illegal as against public policy,
Pension Law or Bankruptcy Law?
6. If the JPA Agreement provision regarding no member exposure for OCFA liabilities is held to be
illegal, would surviving OCFA members be held to be jointly and severally liable for the
OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL liability, if a financially strapped member city declares
bankruptcy?
7. Does GASB 68 require the OCFA or any member city to footnote their financial statements
regarding any potential financial impairment or ultimate pension liability?
South County City Council Meetings
My attendance at various South County City Council meetings has shown that many individuals in the
following groups are lacking in needed information regarding their city's ultimate liability for the
OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL liability for the firefighters:
a) City Managers
b) City Attorneys
c) City Council Members
d) Member City Residents
I excuse the member city residents from being unaware of the implications of the OCFA UAAL, since they
have been given bad information in certain circumstances by their own city attorneys. Some of the city
attorneys appear to have based their own attorney advice on the incomplete unsupported legal advice of the
OCFA Attorney.
However, this reasoning does not excuse the City Attorneys, Managers and Council members. They all
have a responsibility to accurately report to their residents on this issue with a soundly based legal opinion.
Currently, there are various City Council members that believe their city has liability exposure for the
OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL, and other City Council members, who believe the opposite. Who is right?
OCFA Recommended Course of Action
I have continually expressed in writing without any success the need for the OCFA to issue a well -
grounded legal opinion with case reference support for the OCFA position on this issue. (Please see my
attached January 29, 2016 and February 25, 2016 letters on this issue.) My request has found absolutely no
support from the individual city and County OCFA Board members. Based on current events, there is now
a pressing need for such a well- supported legal opinion.
The OCFA attorney has responded to my requests by stating that the individual member cities should issue
their own city attorney legal opinions. Does this recommendation make any sense?
Why would the OCFA attorney state there is a need for over twenty separate city attorney opinions on this
matter? How can city attorneys without any experience in Pension and Bankruptcy Law be expected to
issue such opinions? They lack legal expertise in these critical areas.
Hence, the OCFA quickly pushes off its own primary responsibility on this issue to the member cities. And
the public remains ignorant of impending potential problems, which could actually destroy the financial
stability of their city and curtail needed services to their residents. In effect, this simply continues the long
standing OCFA practice of keeping the public ignorant of key OCFA financial issues.
Wouldn't the most practical solution be for the OCFA to issue a legal opinion assignment to a well -
qualified law firm with an experience background specializing in Pension and Bankruptcy Law?
OCERS /OCFA UAAL Pension Liability Ouestions
The OCFA/OCERS Pension UAAL liability information issues revolve around four simple questions.
Ouestion No. 1: Are the contract member cities ultimately liable for the past OCFA UAAL pension
liability at OCERS, whether or not they decide to withdraw or not withdraw from the OCFA?
Ouestion No. 2: Are structural member cities (like Mission Viejo, Irvine, Laguna Niguel, Aliso Viejo,
Dana Point, Lake Forest, Villa Park, Laguna Hills and Rancho Santa Margarita) ultimately responsible for
their cast OCFA UAAL pension liability at OCERS, if they decide to withdraw from the OCFA in 2018?
Ouestion No. 3: If the OCFA declares bankruptcy, are all the member cities and County jointly and
severally liable for the OCFA UAAL pension liability at OCERS?
Ouestion No. 4: If the OCFA declares bankruptcy, would OCERS be expected to seek reimbursement for
the OCFA UAAL pension liability at OCERS from three large member stakeholders (City of Irvine,
County, and Mission Viejo) and other financially well managed JPA member cities?
Recommended Course of Action
The recommended course of action is to have the OCFA enlist a highly respected California law firm to
issue a well - grounded legal opinion based in Pension and Bankruptcy Law to address issues raised in this
letter and any other issues raised by OCFA Board members or member city attorneys and managers.
Sincerely,
Stephen M. Wontrobski E:oafauaalrednagalen8 -23 -16
cc: Orange County Board of Supervisors; OCERS Board of Directors
Stephen M. Wontrobski
27132 Sombras
Mission Viejo, CA 92692
February 25, 2016
Board of Directors
Orange County Fire Authority
1 Fire Authority Road
Irvine, CA 92602
Ref: OCFA Member Cities' Pension Liability
Response to OCFA Attorney Letter
Dear Board Members.
This is my response to the February 8, 2016 letter from David Kendig from the Woodruff, Spradlin &
Smart law firm. It concerns OCFA member cities' individual city contingent liability for the OCFA's over
$400,000,000 pension liability at the Orange County Employees Retirement System ( OCERS).
Issue
This is a pension /bankruptcy law issue. The issue is whether individual OCFA member cities (both
structural fund member cities and contract cities) and the County could be eventually held liable for the
OCFA's pension liability at OCERS. OCERS believes it can hold the OCFA member cities and County
liable for the OCFA UAAL. This is despite the fact that the OCFA member cities and County are
governed by provisions in their Joint Power Authority (JPA) Agreement.
This JPA Agreement specifically states:
Liabilities. Except as otherwise provided herein, the debts, liabilities and obligations of the
Authority shall be, the debts, liabilities or obligations of the Authority alone and not of the parties
of this agreement.
OCFA Law Firm Background Information
Before responding in detail with answers to various questions asked of me in the OCFA attorney letter, I
offer the following information regarding the Woodruff, Spradlin & Smart law firm and David Kendig, the
author of the February 8, 2016 letter.
Woodruff. Spradlin & Smart Law Firm Background Information
On its web site Woodruff, Spradlin & Smart describes itself as "Southern California's Premier
Local Government Law Firm ". It is a local government law firm.
The "About the Firm" Section states:
Woodruff, Spradlin & Smart is a full- service local government law firm with thirty -seven attorneys. Since
1976, we have served as general counsel and special counsel to cities and special districts throughout
Southern California. We also represent private clients on a range of matters. We provide expert advice
and representation in the following practice areas:
• Code Enforcement
• Construction
• Eminent Domain
• Employment and Labor
• Environmental
• Inverse Condemnation
• Land Use
• Litigation
• Public Law
• Redevelopment
• Transportation
• Water and Wastewater
In its "Representative Matters Section ", it lists
Construction Law
Eminent Domain and Inverse Condemnation
Employment and Labor Law
Environmental Law
Land Use Law
Litigation
Water and Wastewater
In its "Practice Area Section ", it lists
Code Enforcement
Construction Law
Consumer Law
Eminent Domain and Inverse Condemnation
Employment and Labor Law
Environmental Law
Land Use Law
Litigation
Products Liability
Public Agency Law
Redevelopment Law
Toxic Tort
PRECAUTIONARY NOTE: Woodruff. Spradlin & Smart does not profess any expertise in
pensiontbankruptcv law on its web site.
David Kendio Backaround Information
The Woodruff, Spradlin & Smart Law firm web site provides the following information regarding Mr
Kendig.
Practice Areas: Environmental Law I Land Use Law I Public Agency Law
David Kendig serves as the City Attorney for the City of Tustin and as General Counsel to the Orange
County Fire Authority, a 25- member joint powers authority providing fire protection and emergency
medical services throughout Orange County. Mr. Kendig also serves as Assistant City Attorney to the
cities of Laguna Hills and Rancho Santa Margarita, and serves as General Counsel to the non - profit
Orange County Fire Authority Foundation, and the OCFA Benevolent Association. He regularly advises
city councils, boards of directors, city managers, city and Fire Authority staff, commissions, and other
government agency staff on all aspects of public law.
Mr. Kendig has represented public agencies since 1991, developing expertise in planning and zoning law,
general plan and housing element updates, the Ralph M. Brown Act, the Political Reform Act, the Public
Records Act, multi- agency agreements, State and Federal emergency management grant programs and
other grants, the Government Tort Claims Act, the Public Contracts Code, the Elections Code, the
Subdivision Map Act, the California Environmental Quality Act, LAFCO reorganization law, the Federal
Telecommunications Act, municipal code enforcement, and municipal contracting and procurement.
Mr. Kendig has negotiated and drafted a variety of agreements, including professional services
agreements, complex real property purchase and sale agreements, employment agreements,
telecommunications site lease agreements, leases, licenses, real property instruments, operating
covenant and exclusive right agreements, public works contracts, and engineering agreements. He also
prepares complex ordinances, resolutions, deeds, settlement agreements, administrative enforcement
procedures, and administrative policies.
Before joining the firm, Mr. Kendig served as LAFCO Counsel for the Santa Cruz County Local Agency
Formation Commission and as Assistant County Counsel for the County of Santa Cruz. In 2004, the
California Association of Local Agency Formation Commissions (CalLAFCO) recognized Mr. Kendig as
the Outstanding LAFCO Professional for his work as LAFCO Counsel in Santa Cruz County.
Mr. Kendig has assisted agencies In various permitting matters and compliance with federal and state
environmental regulations. He has helped clients, for example, secure coastal development permits from
the California Coastal Commission, streambed alteration agreements from the California Department of
Fish and Game, Clean Water Act fill and dredge permits from the Army Corp of Engineers, and Federal
Endangered Species Act incidental take permits from U.S. Fish and Wildlife. Mr. Kendig has also assisted
agencies in proceedings to obtain federal and state grant funding, as well as in annexations, amendments
of spheres of influence, and municipal service reviews.
Mr. Kendig received his undergraduate degree from the University of Southern California and his law
degree from the University of Southern California School of Law (J.D., 1991).
PRECAUTIONARY NOTE: Woodruff. Spradlin & Smart does not ascribe to Mr. Kendig on its web
site anv expertise in oension/bankruotcv law.
Precautionary Notes Question
The Woodruff, Spradlin & Smart Law firm web site shows absolutely no expertise for the firm or Mr.
Kendig in the area of Pension Law or Bankruptcy Law, around which this UAAL issue centers.
This pension /bankruptcy law issue is a major topic in various cities in California and across the United
States.
Question: Should Woodruff have subcontracted this work out to a law firm that had established
bankruptcy /pension law expertise?
February 8. 2016 Letter Resoonse
Paae 1. Paraaraoh 2
Mr. Kendig states that I have criticized his June 23, 2014 memo as being devoid of any supporting case
and statute references or reasoning. I continue to stand by my "devoid" assertion.
I still cannot find one state, federal or Bankruptcy Court pension case reference in his letter. In fact, there
are absolutely no cases cited in his letter to support any of his letter conclusions. Furthermore, I cannot
find any federal or California statutes in the memo that address the issue of "waterfall' city liability for
pension liability, if the OCFA JPA goes bankrupt.
In addition, I cannot find any discussion in the memo of the issue of "waterfall" potential joint and several
liability of the remaining financially sound OCFA members, if the OCFA declares bankruptcy. This could
be caused by: 1) a withdrawal by Irvine and other member cities from the OCFA in 2018; and 2) this
cascades into the bankruptcy of financially strapped other OCFA member cities.
Page 1 Paragraph 2
It is a very strange form of criticism to state that I did not identify cases or laws that cite potential legal
liability of member cities. Shouldn't Mr. Kendig's legal memo have done that? Wasn't he directed and
paid to write a properly supported legal research memo? Shouldn't he be the one to cite all the case law
across the country that is currently addressing this issue? Should he be criticizing a member of the public
for not completing his own assigned task?
Page 2, First Paragraph
Mr. Kendig advises me to encourage each city or public agency that has a concern similar to mine to
consult their city attorney or county counsel to evaluate it.
Let me explain how strange this advice is. Woodruff, Spradlin & Smart is also the law firm for
a) Orange County
b) City of Laguna Hills
c) City of Rancho Santa Margarita
d) City of Tustin
Should the County and these three cities request a properly researched memo at their own additional
cost from Woodruff, which Woodruff was directed by the OCFA to do in the first place? Should the other
20 OCFA members be requested to pay for their city attorneys to compile 20 other research memos that
Woodruff was directed to do in the first place?
Other Letter Comments
The OCFA attorney_response letter to me has highlighted the following concerns:
1. Woodruff had a responsibility to submit a properly researched and documented legal memo. In
my opinion it failed to do so.
2. Since I and the public now know that neither Woodruff nor its attorneys have any identified
experience in pension /bankruptcy Law, the Board should no longer direct them to do any further
work in this area.
3. The Board should seek a fully supported legal opinion from an expert pension /bankruptcy law firm
on the UAAL liability issue.
4. 1 question whether the OCFA members should rely on and trust the "no worry" Woodruff legal
memo in their future city financial planning or decision making process on whether to withdraw or
not withdraw from the OCFA in 2018.
5. OCERS has publicly stated that it believes it can legally go against all of the OCFA members for
any OCFA UAAL, if the OCFA collapses or declares bankruptcy.
6. 1 maintain that the Board members have a responsibility discuss this potential financially
devastating issue as an agenda item in a future Board meeting.
Sincerely,
Stephen Wontrobski
Cc: Orange County Grand Jury; OCERS a :woodruffcityuaalliability2 -25 -16
Stephen Wontrobski
27132 Sombras
Mission Viejo, CA 92692
January 29 2016
OCFA Board of Directors
I Fire Authority Road
Irvine, CA 92602
Ref: OCFA UAAL — Member City and County Liability
Dear Board of Director Members:
For years I have requested that the OCFA attorney issue a legal opinion with case and statute supporting
references that back up his assertion that OCFA member cities and the County are not at risk for any of the
OCFA's UAAL, if the OCFA goes bankrupt. Disappointedly, he has refused to issue such research
memorandum. Instead, he has done the following.
I. Issued a legal opinion on this matter completely devoid of any supporting case and statute
references or reasoning.
2. Advised the OCFA member cities and County that they are not exposed to OCERS UAAL
liability based on a provision in the JPA that states they are not liable for the UAAL.
3. Failed to opine whether the California Supreme Court with their bias to preserving pension rights
and payments, would rule that the JPA provision was unconstitutional, against public policy, or
illegal, and hence, non- enforceable.
In my opinion the above items demonstrate a need for a well reasoned and supported legal memorandum on
OCFA city and County UAAL liability from another attorney, most notably a respected California Pension
Law attorney. The OCFA attorney without pension law expertise is clearly not the individual to do such
work. Furthermore, I maintain that his current unsupported opinion on this matter should be disregarded by
all. Accordingly, in no uncertain terms, I no longer request that the OCFA attorney conduct any additional
legal research on this matter.
New Develooments
The OCFA failed to attend the important January 19, 2016 OCERS Board of Directors meeting that
discussed the legal liability of the OCFA member cities and County for the OCFA UAAL, if the OCFA
went bankrupt due to member withdrawals or other reasons. I attended that meeting and commented on the
lack of an OCFA legally supported opinion on the matter. Discussion of this matter was found under the
section entitled, "Impact on OCERS from Withdrawal or Termination of Members or Dissolution of the
OCFA JPA ".
One immediately understands that the OCERS view of city and County liability for OCFA UAAL is
completely opposed to the OCFA attorney's opinion. The mere fact that OCERS and the public are
concerned about this issue should finally raise your own concern for needed answers to this issue. The
liability issue could threaten the financial stability of your own city liability, regardless if you are a
Structural Fund or contract city. Various member cities that are currently encountering serious financial
strain could not handle such additional liability exposure. And financially stable cities should also be
concerned.
If financially strapped cities are forced themselves to declare bankruptcy due to the UAAL exposure, will
the financially stable cities be declared by the Court to be jointly and severally liable for the UAAL of the
bankrupt cities? I offer no opinion on that issue.
OCERS agrees that the JPA agreement expressly disclaims members' liability for debts incurred by the
OCFA. In fact it states:
I. The withdrawal or termination of a Structural Fire Fund City would not alter the County's
obligation to pay into the OCFA JPA that city's share of annual property taxes collected by the
County. (What is not addressed is whether the County could also reform the property tax
allocation method to the OCFA and impose a drastically more reasonable and equitable
compensation method.)
2. The OCFA has the authority to impose new special taxes or assessments in order to make up any
funding shortage.
3. Under CERL and the California Constitution, OCERS has the right to accelerate the amortization
of OCFA's UAAL so that it could be immediately due and payable in the event of a threatened
dissolution of the OCFA.
However, the OCERS report goes on to state
"Ultimately, however, if OCFA were to dissolve or elect Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection, OCERS'
liability to recover the nearly $500 million in UAAL payments for which the JPA is presently liable could
be at risk. Among other available remedies, OCERS may be entitled to subrogate to the rights of the JPA
in order to proceed directly against any SFF or contract city for its share of the pension obligations
generated during the term of that city's membership in OCFA."
Bottom Line
Contract cities, exclusive of Santa Ana, believe they have no exposure to the OCERS UAAL, simply
because they are contract cities. This is directly opposite to an OCERS opinion that believes it can come
against the contract cities for their share of the UAAL.
The simple statement in the JPA stating that member cities have no liability for OCFA liabilities appears to
have major holes and should not be relied on by OCFA members. Hence, the OCFA attorney's
unsupported opinion should not be used by Board members in their discussion of the matter with their City
Councils.
There is a need for a respected pension attorney to provide a well reasoned and legally supported opinion
on this issue.
Sincerely,
Stephen M. Wontrobski E: odauaalcityliabilityl -29 -16
Cc: Orange County Board of Supervisors; OCERS Board of Directors