HomeMy WebLinkAboutEmailed Comments Goldberg-Dennison-BerardinoGloria Harper
From: Robert Goldberg <rgoldberg@live.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:38 PM
To: Thomas Moore; Schelly Sustarsic; Mike Varipapa; Sandra Massa-Lavitt; Joe Kalmick
Cc: Jill Ingram; Gloria Harper, Charles M. Kelly; Jeannette Andruss
Subject: Questions & Comments for Council Meeting 9/27/21, Item F, City Manager Pay Raise
Attachments: 9.27.21.Questions.Open Session.doc; Census.2020.00 cities.pdf
Dear Council and Staff,
Please see the attached questions and comments on Item F. I have also attached a referenced pdf.
Thank you for your consideration and service,
Robert Goldberg
Questions & Comments for 9/12/21 Meeting from Robert Goldberg
Item F: Amendment to City Manager's Employment Agreement
I have the following comments and questions regarding the reasons presented for the
proposed increases in the City Manager's base salary and deferred compensation.
The first of these is that Ms. Ingram has the third longest tenure (10+ years) of any City
Manager among the 34 cities in Orange County. While this is notable, tenure with one city is
not equivalent to total years of experience as a City Manager. Given that the average tenure at
any one city for California City Managers is only four years (see https://www.
grassrootslab.com/sites/all/files/StatusCACityManagers2015.pdf), I would argue that total
experience is the more relevant factor to consider in compensation.
How does Ms. Ingram's total years of experience as a City Manager compare to her
Orange County peers?
The staff report then notes that despite ranking as the 3rd longest tenured City Manager in
Orange County, Ms. Ingram's base salary is only ranked 17th. However, with 34 cities in Orange
County, this means that Ms. Ingram's current salary is very close to the median for Orange
County. This ranking is actually quite remarkable given Seal Beach's ranking by population. The
2020 census (see attachment) puts Seal Beach as the 61h smallest city in Orange County with a
population of 25,242 vs. a median of 63,695 and an average of 89,827.
Comment: For the small size of Seal Beach, we are paying a disproportionately high base
salaryfor our City Manager. Thus, one could argue that Ms. Ingram is already being
adequately compensated for her above average tenure with Seal Beach.
The second rationale presented is that "At 10 years of service, other City employees would be
eligible for [5%] longevity pay." This is true, but has been true since 2018, and was presented
on December 9, 2019 as one of the reasons at that time for justifying an increase in Ms.
Ingram's base salary by 4% July 2019 and 5% in July 2020.
Comment: 1 believe it is disingenuous to repeat this rationale to supportfurther pay
increases in July 2021 and 2022 when that Ms. Ingram's current compensation already
reflects consideration of her having achieved 10 years of service with the City.
The final rationale is that "the proposed increases would maintain a bit of separation between
the City Manager's salary and that of the highest paid department head [Police Chief]. It is
considered to be a human resources best management practice to avoid compaction between
the chief executive and the highest paid direct report." However, a comparison of base salaries
(see below) shows that the City Manager's is currently 13.1% higher than that of the Police
Chief.
Perhaps staff's compaction concern was generated by a comparison of the City Manager's base
salary to the combination of the Chiefs base salary plus his 10% bonus for having 20+ years of
experience as a police officer (including work before his Seal Beach employment). However, this
"apples -to -oranges" comparison indicates that there is already "a bit of separation" with City
Manager's base salary being 2.9% higher than the Chiefs combined base plus bonus.
In actuality, a more appropriate "apples -to -apples" comparison of total cash compensation
would also include the amounts that both employees receive in deferred compensation. This
comparison shows the City Managers total cash compensation to be currently 6.4% higher than
the Chief's. This certainly qualifies as at least "a bit of separation."
City Manager
Current Proposed 7.2%
Contracts Raise July 2021
Base Salary
$251,820
$270,000
Experience Bonus (Not Eligible)
$0
$0
Deferred Compensation
$17,000
$19,500
Total Cash Compensation $268,820
Police Chief
$289,500
Proposed 3.6%
Raise July 2021
Base Salary
$222,572
$230,585
20 -Year Experience Bonus @10% Base
$22,257
$23,058
Deferred Compensation @ 3.5% Base
$7,790
$8,070
Total Cash Compensation $252,620
City Manager Premium over Police Chief
$261,714
Proposed for July
2021
Base Salary
13.1%
17.1%
Base + Exp. Bonus
2.9%
6.4%
Base + Exp. Bonus + Deferred Comp
6.4%
10.6%
Comment: The staff report has not made a persuasive case for justifying a pay raise on the
basis of compaction.
Conclusion and Recommendation: The staff reportfails to make a cogent case for granting
Ms. Ingram a retroactive 7.2% base salary raise that is twice as large as that recommended
for her direct reports (3.6% per Item G). I would strongly recommend that the Council
reconsider granting her only a matching raise of 3.6% effective July 2021, as well a matching
2-4% CPI increase effective July 2022. This recommendation would still provide Ms. Ingram
with a very generous 14.7% increase in her deferred compensation to be followed by an
additional CPI increase effective January 1, 2022.
Source: U.S. Census Bureau
(https://www.citypopulation.de/en/usa/california/06059_orange/).
Census
Census
Census
Census
4/1/1990
4/1/2000
4/1/2010
4/1/2020
Villa Park
6,196
5,968
5,822
5,843
Los Alamitos
11,799
11,547
11,352
11,780
La Palma
15,349
15,478
15,537
15,581
Laguna Woods
15,628
16,190
15,991
17,644
Laguna Beach
23,243
23,702
22,743
23,032
Seal Beach
25,071
24,497
24,165
25,242
Laguna Hills
31,333
33,297
30,679
31,374
Dana Point
31,781
35,119
33,291
33,107
San Juan Capistrano
26,187
33,717
34,411
35,196
Stanton
30,353
38,165
37,829
37,962
Brea
33,193
35,556
39,195
47,325
Rancho Santa Margarita
13,997
45,038
47,855
47,949
Cypress
42,634
46,453
47,858
50,151
Placentia
41,050
46,546
50,902
51,824
Aliso Vielo
6,605
39,194
47,668
52,176
Fountain Valley
54,204
54,921
55,360
57,047
La Habra
53,096
60,605
61,447
63,097
San Clemente
41,166
50,031
63,500
64,293
Laguna Niguel
45,049
62,763
62,993
64,355
Yorba Linda
56,333
58,751
64,176
68,336
Tustin
51,567
67,493
75,299
80,276
Buena Park
68,594
78,456
80,456
84,034
Newport Beach
66,501
78,761
85,211
85,239
Lake Forest
59,044
76,549
77,445
85,858
Westminster
78,603
87,992
89,511
90,911
Mission Vieio
79,494
92,057
93,101
93,653
Costa Mesa
96,354
109,371
110,082
111,918
Orange
111,399
129,744
136,778
139,911
Fullerton
114,235
126,187
135,183
143,617
Garden Grove
144,216
165,242
170,960
171,949
Huntington Beach
181,379
189,591
190,987
198,711
Irvine
118,996
144,023
212,125
307,670
Santa Ana
294,214
337,707
324,778
310,227
Anaheim
266,229
327,920
336,332
346,824
Orange County Total
2,335,092
2,748,631
2,891,022
3,054,112
Average City Population
89,827
Median City Population
63,695
Source: U.S. Census Bureau
(https://www.citypopulation.de/en/usa/california/06059_orange/).
Gloria Harper
From: Mark Dennison <mpixls@road runner.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 7:29 PM
To: Robert Goldberg
Cc: Thomas Moore; Schelly Sustarsic; Mike Varipapa; Sandra Massa-Lavitt; Joe Kalmick; Jill
Ingram; Gloria Harper, Charles M. Kelly, Jeannette Andruss
Subject: Re: Questions & Comments for Council Meeting 9/27/21, Item F, City Manager Pay
Raise
Excellent analysis Robert.
I agree with each and every one of your comments.
Thank you for your efforts and especially such a thorough analysis.
Best,
Mark Dennison
On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Robert Goldberg <rgoldberg@live.com> wrote:
Dear Council and Staff,
Please see the attached questions and comments on Item F. I have also attached a referenced
pdf.
Thank you for your consideration and service,
Robert Goldberg
<9.27.21.Questions.Open Session.doc>
<Census.2020.00 cities.pdf>
Gloria Harper
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Hi Gloria, forwarding FYI.
Jill Ingram
Monday, September 27, 20214:01 PM
Gloria Harper
Lauren Barich
FW: OC Veterans Cemetery Elected Sign Ons
Cemetery Names List (1).docx
Hi Lauren, as an FYI, Mr. Berardino will be calling in to our meeting tonight to make public comment
regarding the request for reso in support of the OC Veterans' Cemetery.
Thank you,
Jill
Jill R. Ingram, ICMA-CM
City Manager
City of Seal Beach - 211 Eighth Street, Seal Beach, CA 90740
(562) 431-2527, Ext. 1300
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From: Nick Berardino[mailto:nickberardino68@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 12:57 PM
To: Joe Kalmick; Mike Varipapa; Thomas Moore; Schelly Sustarsic; Sandra Massa-Lavitt; Jill Ingram
Subject: Fwd: OC Veterans Cemetery Elected Sign Ons
Honorable Mayor and Council below is the list of 156 Veteran organizations that support building the veteran
cemetery at the Gypsum Canyon site. Additionally you will note that 146 Orange County elected
officials support the Veteran Community in this effort.
We now have 25 cities that have passed formal resolutions in support of our effort; we will have two more by
the end of the week and four more by the middle of next week. We are hopeful that all cities will have passed
resolutions by mid October.
We would be honored and proud if your honorable council would join the other elected officials in their support
of the Veteran Community.
Thank You ....God Bless you and God Bless America. ----Nick Berardino President VALOR (Veterans Alliance
of Orange County) 714-328-6716
Please read the statement below and you will also note the elected officials in support are BI-
PARTISAN
The statement of support below is the official statement from the Veterans Cemetery Coalition.
This is the largest veteran coalition established in Orange County history. The coalition is
formed for the sole purpose of addressing this singular issue.
"Veterans are fed up with the endless delays and political manipulation in the City of Irvine.
Almost ten years of being pushed around like mere pieces on a political chess board is enough.
Veterans of Orange County have found our voice united in our sacrifice and service to our great
nation and by our honor and loyalty to each other to request the community join together in a
regional effort to finally build a suitable resting place for our fallen"... therefore:
We urge the County of Orange to pursue the possibility of building a Veterans cemetery on the
Gypsum Canyon site in the City of Anaheim which has already been planned for a cemetery and
is currently in the Orange County Cemetery District.
After almost a decade of vigorous efforts to build a Veterans cemetery in the City of Irvine, it
appears that once again the project will be subjected to protracted competing litigation. During
this interminable delay Veterans have already endured lawsuits, ballot initiatives, and numerous
competing petition campaigns.
Veterans cannot wait for the pending and threatened litigation to conclude in Irvine and the
certainty of more political battles that will follow the additional years of litigation. It has become
painfully obvious that for many reasons we need regional resources and support to make a
Veterans cemetery a reality for the brave men and women who served this great country. The
Gypsum Canyon site in the City of Anaheim is a feasible, timely, and logical alternative to the
disputed options currently under consideration.
Supported by the following VETERAN CEMETERY COALITION:
AMERICAN GOLD STAR MOTHERS INC., DEPARTMENT OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA & HAWAII
SADDLEBACK VALLEY CHAPTER AMERICAN GOLD STAR MOTHERS INC.
VALOR (Veterans Alliance of Orange County)
ORANGE COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK FOUNDATION
ORANGE COUNTY FREEDOM COMMITTEE
TIERNEY CENTER FOR VETERANS SERVICES, GOODWILL OF ORANGE
COUNTY
DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS (Orange County Chapter)
MARINE CORPS LEAGUE
JEWISH WAR VETERANS OF AMERICA
SPECIAL FORCES ASSOCIATION CHAPTER 78
VFW District 2 representing:
VFW POST 2085
VFW POST 3173
VFW POST 3670
VFW POST 5384
VFW POST 6024
VFW POST 6563
VFW POST 8680
VFW POST 8954
VFW POST 9557
VFW POST 9934
VFW POST 10489
VFW POST 10694
VFW POST 11546
VFW Post 5868
AMERICAN LEGION POST 72
AMERICAN LEGION POST 862
AMERICAN LEGION POST 9934
AMERICAN LEGION POST 132
AMERICAN LEGION POST 277
AMERICAN LEGION POST 327
AMERICAN LEGION POST 181
AMERICAN LEGION POST 838
AMERICAN LEGION POST 133
AMERICAN LEGION POST 291
AMERICAN LEGION POST 423
AMERICAN LEGION POST 716
ORANGE COUNTY VETERANS and MILITARY FAMILY COLLABORATIVE
(over 100 organizations)
GREATER LOS ANGELES CHAPTER -ASSOCIATION UNITED STATES ARMY
BLACK CHAMBER of COMMERCE
BUFFALO SOLDIERS
CASA DEL SOL VETERANS CLUB
ORANGE COUNTY EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION
LOS AMIGOS OF ANAHEIM
LULAC ORANGE COUNTY
VETERANS HELPING VETERANS
ORANGE COUNTY TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION
VETERAN LEGAL INSTITUTE
ORANGE COUNTY CEMETERY DISTRICT
In support of the VETERANS COALITION:
The Honorable Congressman LOU CORREA
The Honorable Congresswoman YOUNG KIM
The Honorable State Senator JOSH NEWMAN
The Honorable State Senator PAT BATES
The Honorable District Attorney TODD SPITZER
The Honorable Assemblyman STEVEN CHOI
The Honorable Assemblywoman SHARON QUIRK SILVA
The Honorable Assemblywoman COTTIE PETRIE-NORRIS
The Honorable Assemblywoman JANET NGUYEN
The Honorable Chairman of The Orange County Supervisors ANDREW DO
The Honorable Third District Supervisor DON WAGNER
The Honorable Fourth District Supervisor DOUG CHAFFEE
The Honorable Second District Supervisor KATRINA FOLEY
The Honorable Fifth District Supervisor LISA BARTLETT
The Honorable Mayor of Anaheim HARRY SIDHU
The Honorable Anaheim City Council Member TREVOR O'NEIL
The Honorable Anaheim City Council Member JORDAN BRANDMAN
The Honorable Anaheim City Council Member STEVE FAESSEL
The Honorable Anaheim City Council Member Dr. JOSE MORENO
The Honorable Anaheim City Council Member JOSE DIAZ
The Honorable Anaheim City Council Member AVELINO VALENCIA III
The Honorable Mayor of Brea STEVEN VARGAS
The Honorable Brea City Councilmember CECILIA HUPP
The Honorable Brea City Councilmember CHRISTINE MARICK
The Honorable Brea City Councilmember GLENN PARKER
The Honorable Brea City Councilmember MARTY SIMONOFF
The Honorable Mayor of Costa Mesa JOHN STEPHENS
The Honorable Council Member of Costa Mesa ANDREA MARR
The Honorable Council Member of Costa Mesa DON HARPER
The Honorable Council Member of Costa Mesa MANUEL CHAVEZ
The Honorable Council Member of Costa Mesa ARLIS REYNOLDS
The Honorable Council Member of Costa Mesa JEFFREY HARLAN
The Honorable Council Member of Costa Mesa LOREN GAMEROS
The Honorable Council Member of Huntington Beach MIKE POSEY
The Honorable Council Member of Buena Park ART BROWN
The Honorable Mayor of Buena Park CONNOR TROUT
The Honorable City Council Member of Buena Park SUSAN SONNE
The Honorable City Council Member of Buena Park ELIZABETH SWIFT
The Honorable City Council Member of Buena Park SUNNY YOUNGSUN PARK
The Honorable Mayor of Newport Beach BRAD AVERY
The Honorable City Council Member of Newport Beach DIANE DIXON
The Honorable City Council Member of Newport Beach KEVIN MULDOON
The Honorable City Council Member of Newport Beach DUFFY DUFFIELD
The Honorable City Council Member of Newport Beach NOAH BLOOM
The Honorable City Council Member of Newport Beach JOY BRENNER
The Honorable City Council Member of Newport Beach WILL O'NEILL
The Honorable Mayor of Laguna Woods SHARI L. HORNE
The Honorable City Council Member of Laguna Woods CYNTHIA CONNERS
The Honorable City Council Member of Laguna Woods NOEL HATCH
The Honorable City Council Member of Laguna Woods ED H. TAO
The Honorable City Council Member of Laguna Woods CAROL MOORE
The Honorable Council Member of Fullerton BRUCE WHITTAKER
The Honorable Council Member of Fullerton JESUS SILVA
The Honorable Council Member of Fullerton NICK DUNLAP
The Honorable Council Member of Fullerton FRED JUNG
The Honorable Council Member of Fullerton AHMAD ZAHRA
The Honorable Mayor of Yorba Linda Peggy Huang
The Honorable Council Member of Yorba Linda TARA CAMPBELL
The Honorable Council Member of Yorba Linda CARLOS RODRIGUEZ
The Honorable Council Member of Yorba Linda GENE HERNANDEZ
The Honorable Council Member of Yorba Linda DR. BETH HANEY
The Honorable Mayor of Dana Point JAMEY FEDERICO
The Honorable Council Member of Dana Point JOE MULLER
The Honorable Council Member of Dana Point RICHARD VICZOREK
The Honorable Council Member of Dana Point MIKE FROST
The Honorable Council Member of Dana Point MICHAEL VILLAR
The Honorable Mayor of Orange MARK A. MURPHY
The Honorable City Council Member of Orange KIM NICHOLS
The Honorable City Council Member of Orange CHIP MONACO
The Honorable City Council Member of Orange ARIANNA BARRIOS
The Honorable City Council Member of Orange JOHN DUMITRU
The Honorable City Councilmember of Orange KATHY TAVOULARIS
The Honorable City Councilmember of Orange ANA GUTIERREZ
The Honorable Mayor of Tustin Letitia Clark
The Honorable Tustin City Councilmember AUSTIN LUMBARD
The Honorable Tustin City Councilmember RYAN GALLAGHER
The Honorable Tustin City Councilmember BARRY W. COOPER
The Honorable Tustin City Councilmember REBECCA GOMEZ
The Honorable Mayor of Laguna Niguel FRED MINAGAR
The Honorable Laguna Niguel City Councilmember SANDY RAINS
The Honorable Laguna Niguel City Councilmember KELLY JENNINGS
The Honorable Laguna Niguel City Councilmember RISCHI PAUL SHARMA
The Honorable Mayor of Lake Forest SCOTT VOIGTS
The Honorable Lake Forest City Councilmember ROBERT PEQUENO
The Honorable Lake Forest City Councilmember DOUG CIRBO
The Honorable Lake Forest City Councilmember NEEKI MOATAZEDI
The Honorable Lake Forest City Councilmember MARK TETTEMER
The Honorable Mayor of Santa Ana VINCENTE SARMIENTO
The Honorable Santa Ana City Councilmember THAI VIET PHAN
The Honorable Santa Ana City Councilmember DAVID PENALOZA
The Honorable Santa Ana City Councilmember JESSIE LOPEZ
The Honorable Santa Ana City Councilmember PHIL BACERRA
The Honorable Santa Ana City Councilmember JOHNATHAN RYAN HERNANDEZ
The Honorable Santa Ana City Councilmember NELIDA MENDOZA
Honorable Mayor of Stanton DAVID J. SHAWVER
The Honorable Stanton City Council Member RIGABERTO A. RAMIREZ
The Honorable Stanton City Council Member CAROL WARREN
The Honorable Stanton City Council Member GARY TAYLOR
The Honorable Stanton City Council Member HONG ALYCE VAN
The Honorable Mayor of Mission Viejo TRISH KELLY
The Honorable Mission Viejo City Council Member WENDY BUCKNUM
The Honorable Mission Viejo City Council Member BRIAN GOODELL
The Honorable Mission Viejo City Council Member GREG RATHS
The Honorable Mission Viejo City Council Member ED SACHS
The Honorable Mayor of Villa Park CRYSTAL MILES
The Honorable Villa Park City Council Member ROBERT COLLACOTT
The Honorable Villa Park City Council Member ROBBIE PITTS
The Honorable Villa Park City Council Member VINCE ROSSINI
The Honorable Villa Park City Council Member CHAD ZIMMERMAN
The Honorable Mayor of Huntington Beach KIM CARR
The Honorable Huntington Beach City Council Member BARBARA DELGELIZE
The Honorable Huntington Beach City Council Member ERIK PETERSON
The Honorable Huntington Beach City Council Member MIKE POSEY
The Honorable Huntington Beach City Council Member DAN KALMICK
The Honorable Huntington Beach City Council Member NATALIE MOSER
The Honorable Huntington Beach City Council Member RHONDA BOLTON
The Honorable Mayor of San Juan Capistrano JOHN TAYLOR
The Honorable San Juan Capistrano City Council Member DEREK REEVE
The Honorable San Juan Capistrano City Council Member TROY A. BOURNE
The Honorable San Juan Capistrano City Council Member SERGIO FARIAS
The Honorable San Juan Capistrano City Council Member HOWARD HART
The Honorable Mayor of La Palma NITESH P. PATEL
The Honorable La Palma City Council Member MICHELE STEGGELL
The Honorable La Palma City Council Member DEBBIE S. BAKER
The Honorable La Palma City Council Member MARSHALL GOODMAN
The Honorable La Palma City Council Member MARK I. WALDMAN
The Honorable Mayor of Fountain Valley MICHAEL VO
The Honorable Fountain Valley City Council Member PATRICK HARPER
The Honorable Fountain Valley City Council Member KIM CONSTANTINE
The Honorable Fountain Valley City Council Member TED BUI
The Honorable Fountain Valley City Council Member GLENN GRANDIS
The Honorable Mayor of Westminster TRI TA
The Honorable Westminster City Council Member CHI CHARLIE NGUYEN
The Honorable Westminster City Council Member TAI DO
The Honorable Westminster City Council Member CARLOS MANZO
The Honorable Westminster City Council Member KIMBERLY HO
The Honorable Mayor of Los Alamitos MARK A. CHIRCO
The Honorable Los Alamitos City Council Member SHELLY HASSELBRINK
The Honorable Los Alamitos City Council Member TANYA DOBY
The Honorable Los Alamitos City Council Member RON BATES
The Honorable Los Alamitos City Council Member JORDAN NEFULDA
The Honorable Mayor of Rancho Santa Margarita L. ANTHONY BEALL
The Honorable Rancho Santa Margarita City Council Member ANNE D. FIGUEROA
The Honorable Rancho Santa Margarita City Council Member CAROL A. GAMBLE
The Honorable Rancho Santa Margarita City Council Member JERRY HOLLOWAY
The Honorable Rancho Santa Margarita City Council Member BRADLEY J. McGIRR
The Honorable Trustee of Anaheim Union High School District AL JABBAR
OC Cemetery District Trustee WILLIAM NELSON
OC Cemetery District Trustee KELLY RIVERS
OC Cemetery District Trustee CYNTHIA WARD
OC Cemetery District Trustee NOEL HATCH
OC Cemetery District Trustee MARIBEL MARROQUIN
The Honorable Former Mayor of Anaheim TOM TAIT
The Honorable Former Mayor of Mission Viejo ROBERT D BRENTON
The Honorable Former Fourth District Supervisor and Chief Assistant District
Attorney SHAWN NELSON
The Honorable Former Mayor of Los Alamitos and Chairman of The Regional Military
Affairs Committee, Joint Forces Training Base, Los Alamitos DEAN GROSE
By way of background ...There are many more in support which are now going through their
administrative process, and we will be disclosing more throughout next week including our
individual supporters.