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City of Seal Beach Planning Commission
Agenda for June 20, 2007
7:30 p.m.
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II. ROLL CALL
III. AGENDA APPROVAL
By Motion of the Planning Commission, this is the time to:
(a) Notify the public of any changes to the Agenda;
(b) Re-arrange the order of the Agenda; and/or
(c) Provide an opportunity for any member of the Planning Commission, staff, or
public to request an item be removed from the Consent Calendar for separate
action.
IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
At this time, members of the public may address the Planning Commission
regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Planning
Commission, provided that the Planning Commission may undertake no action or
discussion unless otherwise authorized by law.
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
Items on the Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and are enacted by
one motion unless prior to enactment, a member of the Planning Commission,
staff, or the public requests a specific item be removed from the Consent Calendar
for separate action.
1. May 2007 Building Activity Report
2. Approve Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of May 23,2007.
3. RECEIVE AND FILE: "How Should California Grow?" - Western City
Magazine.
VI. SCHEDULED MATTERS
City of Seal Beach Planning Commission. Agenda of June 20, 2007
VII. PUBLIC HEARING
4. Conditional Use Permit 06-2 (Indefinite Extension)
302 Main Street (Vino Voyage)
Applicant/Owner: Randy Maddix & Lynne Siemsen / Henryk Warno
Request: Indefinite extension of Conditional Use Permit 06-2 at
an existing retail wine store that also offers private
labeling of personal wines.
Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of
Resolution 07-37.
5. Height Variation 07-5
1309 Seal Way
Applicant/Owner: Tim Francis / Steve & Tina Lis
Request: To construct a Covered Roof Access Structures
(CRAS) in excess of the 25-foot height limit.
Specifically, the applicant proposes to construct a 9-ft.
6-in. by 3-ft. 11-in. staircase enclosure to exceed the
height limit by approximately 4 ft. 8 in., where the
maximum height variation is 7 feet.
Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of
Resolution 07-34.
6. Tentative Parcel Map 2007-145
450 Ocean Avenue
Applicant/Owner: Patricia Joan Smissen
Request: To subdivide an existing 14,702 square foot lot into two
new parcels. Parcel one will consist of approximately
6,372 square feet of land area and Parcel 2 will consist
of approximately 8,330 square feet of land area in the
Residential Low Density (RLD) Zone of Planning
District 2.
Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of
Resolution 07-39.
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7. Height Variation 07-2
231 - 15th Street
Applicant/Owner: Eric Smith, Martha Bock & George Brown
Request: To construct a non-habitable architectural feature in
excess of the 25-ft. height limit. Specifically, the
applicant proposes to construct an 8-ft. 4-in. by 4-ft.
4-in. elevator enclosure to exceed the height limit by
5 ft. 0 in. The maximum height variation permitted is 7
feet.
Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of
Resolution 07-27.
8. Height Variation 07-3
233 - 15th Street
Applicant/Owner: Eric Smith, Martha Bock & George Brown
Request: To construct a non-habitable architectural feature in
excess of the 25-ft. height limit. Specifically, the
applicant proposes to construct an 8-ft. 4-in. by 4-ft.
4-in. elevator enclosure to exceed the height limit by
5 ft. 0 in. The maximum height variation permitted is 7
feet.
Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of
Resolution 07-28.
9. Height Variation 07-4
235 - 15th Street
Applicant/Owner: Eric Smith, Martha Bock & George Brown
Request: To construct a non-habitable architectural feature in
excess of the 25-ft. height limit. Specifically, the
applicant proposes to construct an 8-ft. 4-in. by 4-ft.
4-in. elevator enclosure to exceed the height limit by
5 ft. 0 in. The maximum height variation permitted is 7
feet.
Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of
Resolution 07-29.
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VIII. STUDY SESSION
10. Study Session: Preliminary Draft - Municipal Code, Title 11, Zoning All
Portions Except Chapter 2.0S Residential Districts
IX. STAFF CONCERNS
X. COMMISSION CONCERNS
XI. ADJOURNMENT
To July 18, 2007, at 7:30 P.M.
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2007 Aaenda Forecast
HOLl DAY - Meeting Cancelled
Minor Plan Review 07-15 - 1101 Catalina Ave
Minor Plan Review 07-16 - 970 Heron Circle
Minor Plan Review 07-17 - 931 Heron Circle
Minor Plan Review 07-18 - 1435 Crestview Ave
Minor Plan Review 07-19 - 979 Heron Circle
Height Variation 07-6 - 409 Ocean Avenue
Study Session - Zoning Code Revisions for Residential Districts
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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION
Minutes of June 20, 2007
Chairperson Deaton called the regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning
Commission to order at 7:30 p.m. on Wednesday, June 20, 2007. The meeting was
held in the City Council Chambers and began with the Salute to the Flag.1
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Deaton, Commissioners Massa-Lavitt and Roberts.
Also
Present: Department of Development Services
Lee Whittenberg, Director of Development Services
Jerry Olivera, Senior Planner
Alexander Abbe, Assistant City Attorney
Absent: Commissioner Bello
Mr. Whittenberg stated that Commissioner Bello had indicated at the last meeting that
she would be absent from tonight's meeting. He requested a motion to excuse her
absence.
MOTION by Roberts; SECOND by Massa-Lavitt to excuse Commissioner Bello from the
Planning Commission meeting of June 20, 2007.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3-0-1
Deaton, Massa-Lavitt and Roberts
None
Bello
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Roberts; SECOND by Massa-Lavitt to approve the Agenda as presented.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3-0-1
Deaton, Massa-Lavitt and Roberts
None
Bello
1 These Minutes were transcribed from audiotape of the meeting
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairperson Deaton opened oral communications.
Mike Bubbe, 412 Central Avenue, requested that the Planning Commission (PC)
consider the possibility of conducting a Saturday study session for the new Zoning Code
(ZC) revisions, as this would make it possible to have greater participation from the
community. Commissioner Deaton asked the Director of Development Services if this
had been discussed. Mr. Whittenberg stated that there had been no discussion. Mr.
Bubbe then provided the web address for the organization Seal Beach for Two Stories
as 2stories40ldtown.com for those interested in finding out more about this group.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Deaton closed oral
communications.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. May 2007 Building Activity Report
2. Approve Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of May 23,2007.
3. RECEIVE AND FILE: "How Should California Grow?" - Western City Magazine.
MOTION by Massa-Lavitt; SECOND by Roberts to approve the Consent Calendar as
presented.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3-0-1
Deaton, Massa-Lavitt and Roberts
None
Bello
SCHEDULED MATTERS
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. Conditional Use Permit 06-2 (Indefinite Extension)
302 Main Street (Vino Voyage)
Applicant/Owner:
Request:
Randy Maddix & Lynne Siemsen / Henryk Warno
Indefinite extension of Conditional Use Permit 06-2 at an
existing retail wine store that also offers private labeling of
personal wines.
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1 Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of Resolution
2 07-37.
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4 Staff Report
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6 Mr. Olivera delivered the staff report. (Staff Report is on file for inspection in the Planning
7 Department.) He provided some background information on this item and noted that this
8 business has been operating under the current Conditional Use Permit (CUP) since
9 approximately January 2006, and pursuant to the conditions of approval the applicant
10 has come before the Planning Commission (PC) to request an indefinite extension of
11 this CUP. He indicated that Lt. Tim Olson, of the Seal Beach Police Department
12 (SBPD) had reviewed the original application in January 2006, and at that time had no
13 concerns regarding the issuance of the CUP. He noted that a follow-up call in June
14 2007 revealed that SBPD has had no unusual or excessive calls for service regarding
15 this business and has no objections to the indefinite extension of CUP 06-2. Mr. Olivera
16 then stated that Staff received no comments for or against this request, and is
17 recommending approval as conditioned.
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19 Commissioner Questions
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21 Chairperson Deaton asked if the Winegrowers License allows the sale of wine by the
22 glass. Mr. Olivera stated that it does allow this.
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24 Commissioner Roberts asked about the status of in-lieu parking fees for Vino Voyage.
25 Mr. Olivera stated that in checking with the Finance Department, he was told that Vino
26 Voyage has not yet paid its in-lieu fees. He noted that approval of an indefinite
27 extension of CUP 06-2 would be conditioned upon the payment of these fees. Mr.
28 Whittenberg added that Finance had never received notice from the Planning
29 Department regarding the in-lieu fees due from Vino Voyage and had not provided them
30 an invoice for payment of fees.
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36 Randy Maddix, co-owner, stated that of Vino Voyage has added a nice, upscale image
37 to Main Street, and he requested that the PC approve the Indefinite Extension of CUP
38 06-2. Commissioner Roberts inquired about the in-lieu parking fees. Mr. Maddix stated
39 that the fees would be paid in full by the end of the week. Chairperson Deaton inquired
40 about an A-frame sign advertising wine by the glass. She asked if this was to become
41 the focus of the business, rather than wine tasting. Mr. Maddix stated that they do offer
42 wine by the glass, but this is still as a wine tasting. Commissioner Roberts asked that
43 Mr. Maddix provide the public more information with regard to the changes in the
44 business. Mr. Maddix stated that the business had originally started as Vintner's Cellar,
45 and he recently joined as a new partner and they decided to rename the business,
46 change the menu of wine samplings, and improve the image inside the store.
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Commissioner Roberts asked if they still make wine. Mr. Maddix stated that they were
originally making 22-25 varieties of wine, but now are making only 6-7 kinds.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Deaton closed the public
hearing.
Commissioner Comments
None.
MOTION by Roberts; SECOND by Massa-Lavitt to approve the Indefinite Extension of
Conditional Use Permit 06-2, subject to conditions, and adopt Resolution 07-37 as
presented.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3-0-1
Deaton, Massa-Lavitt and Roberts
None
Bello
Mr. Abbe advised that the adoption of Resolution No. 07-37 begins a 10-day calendar
appeal period to the City Council. The Commission action tonight is final and the
appeal period begins tomorrow morning.
5. Height Variation 07-5
1309 Seal Way
Applicant/Owner:
Req uest:
Tim Francis / Steve & Tina Lis
To construct a Covered Roof Access Structures (CRAS) in
excess of the 25-foot height limit. Specifically, the applicant
proposes to construct a 9-ft. 6-in. by 3-ft. 11-in. staircase
enclosure to exceed the allowable 7 -foot height limit by
approximately 4 ft. 8 in.
Recommendation:
Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of Resolution
07-34.
Staff Report
Mr. Olivera delivered the staff report. (Staff Report is onfilefor inspection in the Planning
Department.) He provided some background information on this item and noted that the
property is approximately 30 feet wide, and is limited to a 25-foot maximum height
unless a Height Variation (HV) is granted. He stated the applicant is proposing an
approximately 37 -square foot stairway enclosure to be located approximately 26 feet
back from the front of the structure, and approximately 3 feet 6 inches from the west
side of the property. He indicated that based on the size and layout of the proposed
project and the project's compliance with City Code, Staff is recommending approval.
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1 He then noted that Staff has received 2 phone calls, 1 FAX transmission, 2 letters, 2
2 e-mails, and a petition signed by 29 neighbors living on either Seal Way or Ocean
3 Avenue, stating their opposition in response to the public notices.
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5 Commissioner Questions
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7 Chairperson Deaton asked that Staff explain the difference between a Height Variation
8 and a Variance. Mr. Abbe stated that a Variance is something that can only be allowed
9 when there is some special feature about the property, such as a when a lot is very
10 steep and the setback requirements may prevent construction of a home on the
11 property. He noted that a Variance is granted when there is a departure from the
12 Municipal Code, but they must be granted very sparingly and cannot constitute a special
13 privilege. He emphasized that Variances can only be granted in very limited
14 circumstances. Mr. Abbe then explained that a Height Variation (HV) provides an extra
15 level of review for architectural features that would exceed the maximum height limit, if
16 the PC grants an additional architectural review. He noted that the findings for an HV
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19 1. Would this significantly impair the view of any property within 300 feet,
20 2. Is it appropriate for the character and integrity of the neighborhood?
21 3. Is the architectural style consistent with the structure?
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25 Chairperson Deaton opened the public hearing.
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27 Tim Francis, Huntington Beach, stated that he had prepared the plans for this project
28 and they believe that the CRAS has been centered to be as unintrusive as possible to
29 any of the surrounding neighbors. He stated that this request is also based upon other
30 CRAS on surrounding homes within the neighborhood. Commissioner Roberts asked if
31 any of the skylights are higher than the 25-foot limit. Mr. Francis responded that they
32 should not be any higher. Commissioner Roberts stated that in looking at the plans it
33 appears that the rectangular skylight that lies in the center of the building protrudes
34 above the railing by approximately 3-5 inches. Mr. Francis stated future drawings would
35 show that this has been corrected.
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37 Steve and Bernadette Meltzer, 1308 Ocean Avenue, spoke in opposition to this
38 proposal, and provided photos showing how CRAS do impact neighboring views. He
39 presented photos of 1309 and 1307 Seal Way, which was constructed after he had
40 moved into his home. The photo of 1307 Seal Way shows how that CRAS has
41 obstructed the view from his home. He then read his letter to the PC and recommended
42 that this CRAS be constructed in such as way as to prevent any obstruction of ocean
43 views for surrounding neighbors. (Letter and photos are on file for inspection in the Planning
44 Department.) He emphasized that height limits are important within this high density
45 area. Commissioner Roberts asked if Staff had any data on the CRAS at 1307 Seal
46 Way. Mr. Whittenberg noted that the CRAS was built in 1992 when the City was going
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1 through the process of developing standards for these structures. He noted that this
2 type of structure would not be allowed under the today's standards. Commissioner
3 Massa-Lavitt stated that it appears that the mere construction of an addition onto this
4 house would obliterate all of the ocean view from 1308 Ocean Avenue, but a 25-foot
5 high house would pretty much obliterate the view anyway. Mr. Whittenberg noted that
6 at this time the purpose is for the public to address the PC and express their concerns.
7 Mr. Meltzer stated that the CRAS on 1307 Seal Way was constructed parallel to the
8 beach, which shows that allowing these CRAS does substantially impact ocean views
9 for surrounding homes. He encouraged the PC to find a way of allowing these
10 structures without obstructing views.
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12 James Shoemaker, 4296 Guava Avenue, stated that he owns the property at 1210
13 Ocean Avenue and spoke in favor of creating stricter standards for residential
14 development, noting that he does not want to see Seal Beach look like Surfside. He
15 commended Mr. Whittenberg for doing an excellent job.
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17 Jim Wolfelt, 238 16th Street, stated that he has lived in Seal Beach since 1982, and is
18 very concerned about the height of all of the new buildings going up around his home
19 and encouraged the PC to control the height of buildings in town.
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21 Robert Beck, 1310 Ocean Avenue, stated that he owns a duplex located behind the
22 1309 Ocean Avenue property, and has future plans to construct a single-family
23 residence (SFR) on this site. He said that as a former Planning Commissioner and
24 Council Member in the City of Palos Verdes, he understands that in many cases when a
25 project conforms to the Code in all aspects, the PC is powerless to do anything about
26 specific proposals. He encouraged the PC to look at the project's east elevation, which
27 faces his property and noted that what concerns him are other structures that would
28 also exceed the 25-foot height limit, like the chimneys, and encouraged lowering the
29 height.
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31 Jack and JoAnn Bettenhausen, 1311 Seal Way, stated that currently there are only two
32 CRAS on the 1300 block of Seal Way and one on the block behind their home, and if
33 another is constructed next door, they will lose more of their view, and every approval is
34 a precedent for the next CRAS. Ms. Bettenhausen indicated that the 1200 block of Seal
35 Way has only one large rooftop structure, with the remainder made up of small beach
36 houses and duplexes. She encouraged the PC to limit the number of CRAS allowed.
37 Ms. Bettenhausen then stated that she wished to address the massiveness of this
38 structure, but the Director of Development Services advised that she needed to limit her
39 comments to the issue of the CRAS, as the design of the house does meet ZC
40 standards, and those portions that do not will be addressed during the Plan Check
41 Review process. Ms. Bettenhausen then stated that there are many needless additions
42 and appendages to the top of the roof as well as the CRAS, which will also block views
43 and bring a new skyline to the view of the beach. She indicated that skylights and the
44 windows in the CRAS could create a problem with excessive light at night and she
45 requested that windows not be allowed ir:l the CRAS, especially on the north side.
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1 spoke in opposition to CRAS and stated that it is sad to see what can
2 happen when there is no regard for all residents of a neighborhood, and there is nothing
3 that can be done about it.
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5 Teo Albers, 1307% Seal Way, stated that he purchased the home in 1997 just as it is
6 now. He noted that aside from the CRAS, there will be two 6-foot wide chimneys on the
7 roof, and he expressed his concerns about allowing the CRAS and two chimneys. He
8 stated that this would also block the view from his home and he would like to see one of
9 the chimneys or the CRAS eliminated.
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11 Steve Lis, owner of 1309 Seal Way, provided photographs of homes in the area to the
12 PC. He stated that the maximum visual impact of the CRAS would actually be
13 approximately 3 feet. He noted that they had attempted to align the CRAS with the
14 chimney so that the chimney would obscure the CRAS and vice versa. Chairperson
15 Deaton asked why Mr. Lis wanted the CRAS. He stated that it was so that they could
16 get up to the roof area and this near the beach area there is a lot of moisture,
17 particularly in the morning. He noted that the CRAS would prevent moisture on the
18 stairway to the roof and eliminate the possibility of an accident. Chairperson Deaton
19 asked if the CRAS would be facing south. Mr. Lis stated that it faces east and west. He
20 then proceeded to review the photographs and noted that the CRAS for his home would
21 be smaller than those on surrounding homes. Commissioner Roberts referred to the
22 north elevation and noted that the fireplace and CRAS on the rear portion of the
23 property and the dual fireplace in the front would block about 50 percent of the width of
24 the house. He asked if Mr. Lis has looked at alternate designs that would better align
25 these three structures. Mr. Lis stated that he had not looked at alternate designs.
26 Commissioner Roberts stated that he does want to grant this CRAS as it appears that
27 the designer has attempted to limit the size as much as possible; however, the
28 combination of all of the structures on the roof makes the choice troublesome. Mr. Lis
29 asked if making the rear fireplace smaller would help. Commissioner Roberts stated
30 that this would be a step in the right direction. Mr. Lis stated that he would be willing to
31 work with the Planning Department in attempting to create an alternate design.
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38 Commissioner Deaton stated that in her 5 years on the Planning Commission (PC) one
39 of the main things that the PC has used as criteria for granting or not granting a Height
40 Variation (HV) has depended entirely on whether or not the neighbors were in
41 concurrence. She indicated that the Commission must decide when a CRAS is
42 appropriate and when it is not.
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45 required by law to be at least 2 feet higher than any portion of the roof within 10 feet of
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height of fireplaces. He then explained that Building Code also has a minimum required
flue area and in many cases in two story homes, the flue for a first and second story
room will be combined and this would then increase the width of a chimney. He noted
that the PC could consider imposing a condition that states that fireplaces must be the
minimum size required to meet Building Code. He stated that whether or not this would
result in a reduction of the size of what appears on the plans would be determined
during Plan Check.
Chairperson Deaton stated that she is very uncomfortable with going against what the
neighborhood wants, and believes that people living within an area should be able to
determine these issues. She noted that with all of the people who have voiced their
objection to this, she feels that as the representative for Old Town, she needs to listen
to what they have said.
Commissioner Roberts stated that he would like to see some mediation to see if these
structures can be brought down to a reasonable height, as he is not convinced that the
objections aired tonight are for the right reasons. He recommended that the architect
spend some time with the Planning Department to look at alternate designs.
Chairperson Deaton stated that she fears that continuing this item will only serve to
cause more division in the neighborhood, but should the Commission desire to continue
this item she would support that decision. She said that she does not believe that
anyone needs a CRAS.
Commissioner Massa-Lavitt stated that she believes that this has provided a good
opportunity for the neighbors to be in another environment in discussing possible
solutions. She indicated that it sounds like the neighbors and the property owner might
be able to come to agreement if they know that there will be an agreeable solution. She
said that given the opportunity to work with Planning and with one another in coming up
with a solution that creates less impact, perhaps the PC should facilitate this.
MOTION by Roberts; SECOND by Massa-Lavitt to continue Height Variation 07-5 to the
Planning Commission meeting of July 18, 2007, to allow applicant to meet with Staff to
review alternative designs for the roof structures at 1309 Seal Way.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3-0-1
Deaton, Massa-Lavitt and Roberts
None
Bello
Mr. Whittenberg indicated that there would be no additional public notice given of the
continuance of this matter. Mr. Abbe requested a motion to re-open the public hearing.
MOTION by Massa-Lavitt; SECOND by Roberts to re-open the public hearing for Height
Variation 07-5.
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MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3-0-1
Deaton, Massa-Lavitt and Roberts
None
Bello
6. Tentative Parcel Map 2007-145
450 Ocean Avenue
Applicant/Owner:
Request:
Patricia Joan Smissen
To subdivide an existing 14,702 square foot lot into two new
parcels. Parcel 1 will consist of approximately 6,372 square
feet of land area and Parcel 2 will consist of approximately
8,330 square feet of land area in the Residential Low
Density (RLD) Zone of Planning District 2.
Recommendation:
Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of Resolution
07-39.
Staff Report
Mr. Olivera delivered the staff report. (Staff Report is on file for inspection in the Planning
Department.) He provided some background information on this item noting that the
minimum size lot for the RLD Zone is 5,000 square feet. He stated that while the newly
subdivided lots do not meet the minimum standard with regard to lot width, the City has
historically allowed lot subdivisions within the Old Town area that conform to the original
underlying lot subdivision dimensions. He indicated that the proposed subdivision does
conform to this standard and is allowed by the City. Mr. Olivera then stated that Staff
had received no comments regarding this application and recommends approval of this
request, subject to conditions. Chairperson Deaton asked what the standard lot width
is. Mr. Olivera stated that within the RLD Zone the standard lot width is 50 feet.
Commissioner Massa-Lavitt inquired about corner lots. Mr. Olivera responded that for
corner lots it is 55 feet. Mr. Whittenberg explained that when buildings on properties
that have had units constructed across the original subdivision lines are demolished, the
City historically has allowed the property to revert to the underlying parcels as created
on the original tract maps. He cited the former site of the Seal Beach Inn & Gardens at
Sth Street and Central Avenue, which was recently demolished and six new homes have
been constructed on the six original 2S-foot wide lots. He continued by noting that the
original subdivision for 4S0 Ocean Avenue was comprised of a 42.S-foot wide corner lot
and a number of 2S-foot interior lots, and somewhere along the way, the owners of
adjoining properties had transferred a 7.5-foot piece from one of the original lots and
incorporated it into the current property. With this subdivision Staff would have allowed
to revert to the 42.5-foot and 25-foot lots, but this would have left the 7.5-foot wide lot,
so the parcel maps combine the 25-foot lots with the 7.5-foot addition. Commissioner
Massa-Lavitt asked why a tentative parcel map is needed if the original lot lines are still
in existence. Mr. Whittenberg explained that the map is needed to combine them into
one lot, as they are also subdivided by a sewer easement. Chairperson Deaton asked if
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the structures that are constructed on these lots would then be legal nonconforming.
Mr. Whittenberg stated that the new structures would have to meet current setback
standards for the zone based upon the lot widths.
Public Hearinq
Chairperson Deaton opened the public hearing.
Tricia Smissen stated that Mr. Whittenberg had adequately covered all of the
information. She recommended approval of her application.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Deaton closed the public
hearing.
Commissioner Comments
Commissioner Roberts referred to Page 3, Item 7, of Resolution 07-39 and asked for a
definition of off-site improvements. Mr. Whittenberg explained that this refers to public
right-of way improvements like street trees, curb gutter repair work, etc.
MOTION by Roberts; SECOND by Massa-Lavitt to approve Tentative Parcel Map 2007-
145, subject to conditions, and adopt Resolution 07-39 as presented.
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Mr. Abbe advised that the adoption of Resolution No. 07-39 begins a 10-day calendar
appeal period to the City Council. The Commission action tonight is final and the
appeal period begins tomorrow morning.
Chairperson Deaton asked if Items 7, 8, & 9 could be heard as a group. Mr.
Whittenberg stated that the hearing for all of these items could be combined for the Staff
presentation, questions from the Commission, and public comments, but when voting,
separate motions should be made for each of these items.
7. Height Variation 07-2
231 - 15th Street
App licant/Owner:
Eric Smith, Martha Bock & George Brown
Request:
To construct a non-habitable architectural feature in excess
of the 25-ft. height limit. Specifically, the applicant proposes
to construct an 8-ft. 4-in. by 4-ft. 4-in. elevator enclosure to
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1 exceed the height limit by 5 ft. 0 in. The maximum height
2 variation permitted is 7 feet.
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4 Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of Resolution
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12 Request: To construct a non-habitable architectural feature in excess
13 of the 25-ft. height limit. Specifically, the applicant proposes
14 to construct an 8-ft. 4-in. by 4-ft. 4-in. elevator enclosure to
15 exceed the height limit by 5 ft. 0 in. The maximum height
16 variation permitted is 7 feet.
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18 Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions, and adoption of Resolution
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26 Request: To construct a non-habitable architectural feature in excess
27 of the 25-ft. height limit. Specifically, the applicant proposes
28 to construct an 8-ft. 4-in. by 4-ft. 4-in. elevator enclosure to
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38 Department.) He provided some background information on this item noting that the
39 application was originally heard at the Planning Commission (PC) meeting of May 9,
40 2007, at which time Staff had recommended a reduced enclosure size that would
41 eliminate unnecessary square footage. He noted that the PC did not take action at that
42 meeting, but recommended that Staff meet with the applicants to determine an
43 alternative configuration. After meeting on May 14, 2007, both parties agreed to a plan
44 that would reduce the exterior walls of the elevator enclosure, but retain the roof
45 structure for protection of the elevator door and shaft from the elements. In redesigning
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1 required to contain the mechanical elevator equipment within the roof structure of the
2 enclosure, which required that the project be re-noticed and postponed to tonight's
3 meeting. Mr. Olivera stated that Staff has reviewed the application and plans and finds
4 that the project is in compliance with City standards. He indicated that the applicant is
5 now proposing an approximately 32-square foot elevator enclosure to be located at the
6 north side of the building with the roof structure flush with the north building wall and the
7 enclosure door set back approximately 3 feet 6 inches from the north building wall,
8 approximately 20 feet 7 inches from the front of the building, 10 feet 6 inches from the
9 south building wall, and 56 feet 7 inches from the rear building wall on each respective
10 building. Based upon this revision and the projects compliance with City Code, Staff
11 recommends approval of Height Variation 07-2, 07-3, and 07-4, subject to conditions.
12 Mr. Olivera stated that Staff had received 5 letters and 1 telephone call in opposition to
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17 Commissioner Roberts confirmed that the changes reflect that the roof structure has
18 increased in height. Mr. Olivera confirmed that it has increased one foot in height, the
19 building wall originally flush with the north wall has been eliminated, and there will be
20 two pilaster post structures that will support the roof structure. Commissioner Roberts
21 asked if there would now be a breezeway rather than a solid wall. Mr. Olivera
22 confirmed that this was correct.
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28 Eric Smith, 233 15th Street, thanked the Commission and Staff for discussing the project
29 to get a visual perspective on it. He stated that he and his wife are approaching
30 retirement and want to be able to live in this home and have roof access. He said when
31 originally designing the homes they were unable to find the design they wanted, but
32 later found an elevator design that would work and would fit into the structures they had.
33 He ended by requesting approval of Height Variation 07-2,07-3, and 07-4.
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36 as they will not only cut out light, but would look jagged and take away from the small
37 town atmosphere of the community. She noted that the size of these doghouses is
38 about the same as the CRAS for 1309 Seal Way. She asked that the PC work with
39 property owners to prevent this from continuing. She stated that the homes already
40 have stair access to the roof and do not need elevators. She recommended denial.
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42 Allen Katz stated that this property was formerly two 37.5-foot lots. He indicated that he
43 is not certain, but probably these had originally been three 25-foot lots with single story
44 homes on them, as there were fewer two story homes and fewer doghouses back then.
45 Now with three lots with doghouses on each home, you have the added height and
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1 with elevators for roof access. He also noted that the homes already have stair access
2 to the roof and do not need elevators.
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4 Jim Wolfelt spoke in opposition to this project stating that the increased elevation and
5 doghouse are setting a very bad precedent, and he would not want these homes next to
6 his He stated that this will set a precedent for future development and soon there will
7 be elevators on three-story homes, adding even more height.
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9 Arlene Rees, 227 15th Street, spoke in opposition stating that when constructing the
10 CRAS on her home, she was told that it had to be located on the rear portion of the
11 home, and if these elevators were located on the rear of this property she would have
12 no objection to this. She stated that homes should be constructed in conformance with
13 City Code. She noted that George Brown is an experienced builder and is aware of
14 Building Codes, so she cannot understand why this project has been presented with this
15 design. She encouraged consideration for the neighbors.
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17 Joyce Parque stated that two homes on Ocean Avenue have already received approval
18 for elevators, as well as one home on The Hill. She referred to this as "select
19 enforcement" and "select approval." She said that approvals or denials should be
20 consistent, and the reason for an HV is so that people can come and ask for a HV.
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22 Lee Melody, 236 15th Street, stated that he has a front porch and his home sits on a
23 37.5-ft. lot and the house on the left of the new construction is also a 37.5-ft. lot and the
24 home is three stories high and covers the entire lot. He continued by stating that Mr. &
25 Mrs. Katz built a three-story home on a 37.5-ft. lot. He said that he had spoken to the
26 owners of 231,233, & 235 15th Street and asked if the doghouse would be visible from
27 his home. He was told that the doghouse would be at the rear of the home and would
28 not be visible. Mr. Melody stated that there should be elevators in any home for which
29 roof access is allowed. He noted that he does not like CRAS, or three stories on 37.5-ft.
30 lots, but they are allowed. He stated that no one's view will be affected by these CRAS
31 and he recommended approval as the population in Seal Beach is aging and elevators
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42 Commissioner Massa-Lavitt stated if the elevation drawings are accurate the CRAS
43 appear to be at the front of the building and look to be very obtrusive and impactive and
44 they could be minimized even more. She then noted that if the elevation drawings are
45 inaccurate and the CRAS are pushed back 40 feet from the front edge of the roof then
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1 misleading. Mr. Olivera stated that according to the plans submitted the CRAS are
2 setback approximately 20 feet 7 inches from the front wall. He added that the elevation
3 drawings do not accurately reflect what would be seen from the street level or public
4 right-of way. Mr. Whittenberg added that the location of the CRAS has not changed, but
5 the previous plan had solid doors at the exit from the elevator to the roof and a solid wall
6 around to the north wall of the house straight up to the roof cover area. He explained
7 that now the proposal is just to enclose the elevator shaft with a solid structure and the
8 stairway landing would have a covered roof area with posts supporting it and no solid
9 walls. Commissioner Massa-Lavitt noted that based on photos previously presented, it
10 appears that there are already a lot of doghouses in this area. Mr. Whittenberg
11 confirmed that there are many doghouses in this area of town.
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13 Chairperson Deaton stated that the PC needs to look at the issue of CRAS. She said
14 that she would like to get rid of HVs altogether, or set criteria for or against them. She
15 indicated that when dealing with an elevator, this must be looked at differently. She
16 said she does not see why a CRAS would be needed for a stairway, but she does see
17 how this would be needed to cover an elevator. She stated that she had visited the
18 property and there is no yard, so the roof deck would be the only yard. She added that
19 she believes the City will be faced with the need for elevators in the near future. She
20 stated she does not want to be selectively approving or disapproving these applications,
21 and standards are needed.
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23 Commissioner Roberts inquired about the statement made that CRAS are required to
24 be on the rear portion of the property. Mr. Whittenberg stated that during his tenure with
25 the City this standard has not applied to the approval of a CRAS, and before that there
26 were no standards at all for these structures; this is why there are some very large
27 doghouses in town. Chairperson Deaton noted that the large doghouses are no longer
28 allowed, and there are now excellent standards on how to construct a CRAS. Mr.
29 Whittenberg added that the current standards for covered roof access stairways, are
30 strictly for these stairways, and other things like an elevator enclosure technically are
31 not subject to the same size limitations for CRAS. He noted that Staff does use these
32 as a guideline, as generally they are for the same type of purpose. He emphasized that
33 the PC has the discretion to approve or deny an application for an HV. Commissioner
34 Roberts stated that both GRAS and elevators need to be addressed in Chapter 2.05 of
35 the Zoning Code (ZC), but this proposal has been in the pipeline and he does not
36 believe that the PC should deny this request predicated on a future discussion. He said
37 he would vote to approve.
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40 Mr. Whittenberg stated that this was due to the mechanical equipment requirements for
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MOTION by Roberts; SECOND by Massa-Lavitt to approve Height Variation 07-3,
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MOTION by Roberts; SECOND by Massa-Lavitt to approve Height Variation 07-4,
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Mr. Abbe advised that the adoption of Resolution Nos. 07-27, 07-28, and 07-29 begins
a 10-day calendar appeal period to the City Council. The Commission action tonight is
final and the appeal period begins tomorrow morning.
Mr. Whittenberg then encouraged members of the public to attend the next scheduled
study session on the ZC revisions on Wednesday, July 18, 2007.
Commissioner Roberts requested that discussion be held on the proposed Saturday
study session. Mr. Whittenberg stated that this would have to be scheduled as a
discussion item on the agenda for the next meeting. Mr. Abbe stated that a special
meeting could be scheduled. Commissioner Roberts stated that he would like to do
this. Mr. Whittenberg noted that there are two Commissioners absent and it would be
best to wait until July 18th when everyone is present.
At 9:15 p.m. Mr. Whittenberg requested a brief recess.
The meeting reconvened at 9:20 p.m.
STUDY SESSION
10. Study Session: Preliminary Draft - Municipal Code, Title 11, Zoning All Portions
Except Chapter 2.05 Residential Districts
Mr. Whittenberg introduced Steven Flower from Richards, Watson & Gershon (RWG) to
continue a presentation on the ability to require underground equipment boxes and
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1 Steven Flower stated that with regard to under grounding wireless antenna facilities, this
2 can be required with a caveat, noting that the concern is the Federal
3 Telecommunications Act (FTA), which is a federal law that broadly preempts the area of
4 wireless facility regulation. He indicated that the City does have a reservoir of zoning
5 authority that it can draw upon to regulate wireless facilities, so long as it meets certain
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8 1. City standards cannot prevent wireless service providers from providing services
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10 2. The City cannot discriminate between service providers.
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12 Mr. Flower stated that as long as these conditions are generally met, the City can set
13 forth standards such as those for under grounding. He continued by saying that
14 standards for separation and distance requirements between facilities and maximum
15 height limits can be implemented, as long as they do not prevent the provision of
16 services in a given area. Commissioner Roberts asked if all of these caveats pertain to
17 both dish and pole antennas. Mr. Flower stated that he is not absolutely clear on the
18 technical issues with regard to the difference between these two types of equipment,
19 but from a legal standpoint it only matters whether or not these types of facilities would
20 affect the ability of a provider to cover a specific area. Commissioner Roberts stated
21 that he asked because at the previous discussion it appeared that there was some
22 differentiation between a dish and a pole. Mr. Whittenberg explained that there are
23 some specific limitations on the ability of cities to control dish antennae less than a
24 certain diameter in size. He said he believed the diameter is 39 inches, but Staff would
25 confirm this and provide the current court decisions on this issue. He cautioned that
26 court decisions s are always changing what a city can or cannot do. Mr. Flower stated
27 that he was under the impression that the PC was more concerned with wireless
28 facilities rather than dish antennae. Commissioner Massa-Lavitt stated that the PC is
29 more concerned with wireless facilities, rather than with Direct TV dishes or antennae.
30 Mr. Flower stated that in terms of the FTA it would be important to be very specific
31 about when requirements would not apply. He noted that language in the proposed
32 ordinance states that the Director of Development Services or the PC can waive a
33 requirement if it would require non-compliance with federal state law. He recommended
34 including language that states "it would be waived" or "it shall be waived" if this would
35 prevent the provider from operating the service in a given area. He cautioned that this
36 would not mean that there would have to be blanket coverage citywide, but there could
37 be "dead zones." Chairperson Deaton asked how dead zones are determined. Mr.
38 Flower stated that this is a technical question, but the service provider would have to
39 make a showing that there is a gap in coverage. Mr. Whittenberg stated that the City
40 has several tower installations on City property, noting that currently there are three
41 different service provider antennas on the City Hall clock tower. He explained that when
42 a provider requests the ability to locate, certain technical documents must be provided
43 to Staff showing that the area is one that is underserved, and how broad an area the
44 new service will cover. He indicated that there are also several towers adjacent to the
45 City water reservoir along the 1-405 Freeway and at the Seal Beach Tennis Center
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1 submittals for facilities located off of City property. He then stated that based upon a
2 recent court decision on Sprint vs. The County of San Diego, the 9th circuit court
3 invalidated the County's wireless ordinance on a provision that had not previously been
4 utilized in court cases, which stated that the County of San Diego ordinance vested too
5 much discretion in their decision makers with regard to camouflaging, consistency with
6 community character, and visual impact. He noted that these are standard for city
7 zoning practices and many cities have wireless ordinances that vest this kind of
8 discretion in their decision makers. He said that Seal Beach is taking a conservative
9 approach and is looking at where discretion for decision makers can be "tightened." He
10 noted that the Sprint decision is to be reviewed by a wider panel and the County of San
11 Diego has advised that they intend to petition for Supreme Court Review, and RWG will
12 keep Staff informed of any new developments in this case. He recommended looking at
13 the ordinance now to ensure that these facilities are compatible with neighborhoods,
14 while at the same time reigning in discretion as much as possible to avoid any
15 problems. Commissioner Massa-Lavitt asked if this decision addressed the location of
16 facilities in the public right-of way rather than on private property. Mr. Flower stated that
17 there is a parallel case coming up in the state courts that deals with the right-of way
18 provisions under state law. He noted that the proposed wireless ordinance for Seal
19 Beach is much broader, as it covers private property as well as the public right-of way.
20 Mr. Whittenberg added that the issue of land use control continually evolves as court
21 decisions are made, so changes to the ordinance may be necessary at the time it is
22 presented at public hearings.
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25 focus on the new recommendations for the proposed Commercialllndustrial/Open
26 Space standards. He presented the table entitled "2007 ZONING CODE REVISION,
27 Proposes Use Permit Review Changes" for viewing during the discussion. He then
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30 Buildina Heiahts: No changes are proposed for current building heights. There are
31 height and story limitations for some zones and others have none because this is the
32 way the Code has been written over the years. Staff is proposing creating another table
33 for all of the separate standards that now exist in each of the City zoning categories.
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36 LC/RMD Zone along Seal Beach Boulevard (SBB) between Electric Avenue and Pacific
37 Coast Highway (PCH), for the Main Street Specific Plan (MSSP) Zone, and the
38 Professional Office (PO) Zone (currently there are no properties within this
39 classification). Staff recommends a "build to line" requirement to prevent parking at the
40 front of a commercial building. Commissioner Roberts asked if the property line begins
41 at the interior edge of the sidewalk. Mr. Whittenberg stated that this is generally true for
42 commercial buildings, but it is not always the case for residences. He noted that this is
43 being proposed for areas that are primarily pedestrian-oriented retail areas, such as
44 along Main Street. Chairperson Deaton noted that at the joint study sessions Mayor
45 Larson had commented on women not wanting to have to walk through an alley or
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stated that today most business operations will have some sort of entry from the parking
lot at the rear of the building.
Chairperson Deaton then inquired about the PO District. Mr. Whittenberg explained that
the Professional Office (PO) Zone is on the books, but currently no property in town falls
under this designation. He noted that at one point in time a portion of the Bixby Office
Park Development, north of the 1-405 Freeway, was in a PO Zone and another in the
Light Manufacturing (M-1) Zone, but in the mid-1980's the City adopted an overlying
specific plan that allowed the current office park. He indicated that Staff wants to keep
this designation, as there is potential for its use in the future. He added that retail uses
would not be allowed within the PO Zone.
The Director of Development Services then referred the Commissioners to the items
listed on Page 3 of the May 9, 2007, Staff Report and to the Preliminary Draft of the
Title 11 Zoning Code, Part II, Base District Regulations, Sections 2.10.015.D through
2.10.015.R - Development Standards - Commercial and Mixed Use Districts for a review of
recommendations for the following items:
o Minimum Yard Requirements: Building Transition Zone Acijacent to Residential Districts-
page 23-24;
Discussion: This would apply to transition areas between a commercial
and residential zone. This usually occurs along Main Street and in the
LC/RMD area adjacent to SBB, south of PCH. These standards attempt
to prevent the mass of commercial buildings from casting shadows across
residences, and to provide light and air circulation. Staff presented
graphics on how this would look noting that the graphics are illustrative
and not technically correct, but are to be revised with exact dimensions.
(Presentation is on file for inspection in the Planning Department.) In most
cases this occurs across an alley where you get a rear property line for
residential across from a commercial property line as with the townhomes
behind the Rossmoor Shopping Center.
o Public Open Space - page 25;
Discussion: For new commercial buildings over 25,000 square feet in
area Staff is recommending that they include a public gathering place
such as an outside patio area or courtyard measuring 25 square
feet/1, 000 square feet of retail building area. This has been incorporated
at the new Shops at Rossmoor, which will have courtyards, an outdoor fire
pit, and fountains with seating around. This would be required for new
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Limitations on Location of Parking - page 25;
Discussion: For the LC, PO, and MSSP zones above-ground parking
cannot be located within 40 feet of a street. This would apply to parking
structures and there would be some exceptions through the Administrative
Use Permit (AUP) process and would provide a 300-foot notice.
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Discussion: Would be applied to commercial and retail centers to reduce
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Discussion: Staff has already received direction from the Planning
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Building Design Features - pages 27-32;
Discussion: No existing standards within the Code. Recommend a
variety of wall planes as well as roof designs to get away from a long
length of a flat, square building fac;ade on the street side or parking lot
side. The new CVS Store reflects this with a complete roof all around the
building. Commissioner Roberts asked if the City had any control on the
color of buildings. Staff stated the City has none, noting that this is a very
subjective issue. Mr. Abbe stated that he has not seen an ordinance that
specifically regulates color. With regard to building design Staff proposes
architectural detail for the street fac;ade of buildings. Photos with
examples of design variety were displayed.
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Discussion: Recommend limiting the length of blank walls to a specific
percentage of the building, with the remainder incorporating design
standards as discussed above. Chairperson Deaton commented that the
new Daily Grind will have nothing but a blank wall facing Pacific Coast
Hwy. Mr. Whittenberg stated that currently there are no provisions for this,
and noted that this is a very small building. Staff will check the plans to
determine whether the wall will be blank.
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Discussion: Recommendation is that the primary entrance of buildings
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providing landscaping or other design features to help soften the effect.
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Ground Floor Requirements - pages 33-34;
Discussion: Suggest standards for the type of building materials and
designs to be used for ground floor areas to create better articulation,
greater detail, more use of window and door recesses, etc. This would
apply to all commercial zones.
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Discussion: Within an area between 2 and 6 feet above grade, a specific
percentage of the building must be open to public view. This will also help
prevent long blank walls. Chairperson Deaton asked if there were any
restrictions on blacked-out windows. Transparency requirements would
address this issue.
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Discussion: Proposed revisions for setbacks for residential uses on
commercial, mixed-use property to help provide light, air circulation, and
private open space.
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Required Side and Rear Yardsfor Residential Uses - pages 34-35;
Discussion: Provide setback requirements for second and third stories on
residential within the LC/RMD Zone for provision of light, air circulation,
and private open space.
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Council- page 35;
Discussion: If the City has adopted a Specific Plan for a residential area
or commercial property that differs from City Code, the Specific Plan
standards would apply.
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Discussion: Sets standards to help oversee design for pedestrian access
from the street to the building in commercial use areas.
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Discussion: Suggest minor changes to existing standards for architectural
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6 Chairperson Deaton asked what had been decided on whether projections above
7 the height limit would be subject to a CUP or an AUP. Mr. Whittenberg stated he
8 believed the PC wished to have this remain subject to a CUP, and to limit the
9 size even further. She indicated that after hearing the public comments made
10 tonight she is very sensitive about projections. Mr. Whittenberg indicated that
11 mechanical equipment on commercial buildings can become an issue,
12 particularly when you have multi-story office buildings. He noted that most of the
13 retail shopping centers in Seal Beach don't have multi-story buildings.
14 Chairperson Deaton stated that she would be more concerned about
15 architectural projections than she would the mechanical, because mechanical are
16 necessary. Mr. Whittenberg stated that now Staff tells applicants that they must
17 abide by the height limit, and in most cases this should be the procedure, but
18 there may be a case where the PC would like to have the ability to adjust this on
19 an as needed basis. Chairperson Deaton stated that this should remain subject
20 to a CUP.
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22 Mr. Whittenberg then quickly reviewed the remaining items as follows:
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24 Part II, Base District Regulations, Table 2.15.015.B through 2.15.015.D -
25 Development Standards - Light Manufacturing and Oil Extraction Districts
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27 Recommend building design features, variety in wall planes and height, massing
28 elements, landscaping, etc. Specific Plan will override City Code. The same
29 recommendations made for projections would apply.
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31 Part II, Base District Regulations, Table 2.20.010 - Use Regulations - Public and
32 Semi-Public Facilities Districts
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34 Apply to private golf course developments and public uses like the police station,
35 City maintenance yard facilities, park facilities, and associated recreation
36 buildings. He noted that most uses on a golf course would require a CUP.
37
38 Part II, Base District Regulations, Table 2.25.010 - Use Regulations - Open Space and
39 Parks Districts
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41 Standard apply to public parks, the public beach, and the future 100-acre public
42 wetland area. Most of these uses are permitted by right, but certain uses would
43 require CUP approval, such as the tennis center.
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45 Mr. Whittenberg stated that this ends the review of proposed standards for
46 commercial uses and he then requested direction from the Commission as to
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1 how they wished to proceed. Commissioner Roberts ask whether the City or the
2 developer decides how much money they contribute for dedications and
3 exactions for new developments. Mr. Whittenberg explained that the City makes
4 the final decision, and will usually not take a dedication of land within small
5 developments. Commissioner Roberts stated that a $10,000 exaction for a
6 subdivision seems relatively inexpensive. Mr. Whittenberg stated that Staff had
7 conferred with the City Attorney with regard to increasing this amount, but
8 Proposition 218 states that if a tax on property is to be increased, you must have
9 voter approval in order to do so. Mr. Abbe stated that the City still has the
10 authority to impose development fees, and if counsel finds that the City does
11 have the authority to impose a higher fee, an escalator clause indexed to inflation
12 may also be included. Chairperson Deaton asked if the 6 new homes on the
13 property at 5th Street and Central Avenue would qualify as a subdivision. Mr.
14 Whittenberg stated that it would not, as the underlying parcels on this property
15 were already in existence.
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17 Commissioner Roberts confirmed that the decision on the notification radius for
18 the AUP would be 300 feet and 500 feet for a CUP. Mr. Whittenberg confirmed
19 that this had been the consensus.
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21 Mr. Whittenberg then asked if the PC would need to revisit the proposed zoning
22 standards for commercial uses. Commissioner Massa-Lavitt stated that a study
23 session on the Chapter 4.05 standards should be conducted. Mr. Whittenberg
24 recommended completing the study sessions on residential uses and then
25 returning to Chapter 4.05.
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27 Public Comments
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29 Chairperson Deaton opened for public comments.
30
31 Eldon Alexander referred to the LC/RMD Zone and asked if mixed-use
32 developments can be commercial, mixed use residential and commercial, or
33 simply residential. Mr. Whittenberg confirmed that this was correct. He then
34 asked if strictly residential were being done in this district would the setback
35 requirements be the same as for an all residential zone. Mr. Whittenberg stated
36 that residential development in this area must meet the standards for the RHD-20
37 Zone. Mr. Alexander then stated that he does not believe there is a parking
38 problem in Seal Beach or in Old Town. Chairperson Deaton countered that the
39 denser part of Old Town does have parking problems. Mr. Alexander stated that
40 in meeting the 2-parking space requirement, the 25-foot lots in Old Town also
41 allow for a third parking space on the rear garage pad, and the 37.5-foot lots
42 would accommodate 4 spaces. He also noted that with an aging population,
43 within 5-7 years there would be fewer teenagers with cars requiring parking.
44 Chairperson Deaton asked about homeowners renting out bedrooms. Mr.
45 Alexander stated that he knows of no one in his neighborhood who rents out
46 bedrooms within their homes. He added that it is more likely to have existing
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1 apartments demolished for construction of a single-family residence. Mr. Abbe
2 cautioned that tonight's discussion is not on residential, but on commercial uses.
3 Mr. Alexander then referred to an article entitled, "The Birth of the Property
4 Rights Movement," (copies distributed to the Commission) and stated that he
5 sees the process of limiting third story development and imposing design
6 standards as a regulatory taking. He stated that dedication and exaction fees
7 could fall under this as well. He also noted that in Proposition 90 one of the
8 examples used was similar to limiting third stories, and Proposition 90 passed
9 and was approved in all 5 districts of Seal Beach. He postured that the author of
10 the above-noted article is saying that the court decisions cited are not correct
11 from the point of view of the original understanding of property and the takings
12 clause as well as due process. Mr. Alexander then stated that he still does not
13 understand why the PC cannot look at the economic impacts of making these
14 "legislative" changes to the Zoning Code (ZC). Mr. Whittenberg stated that Staff
15 would research this question and present a response at the public hearings. Mr.
16 Alexander then referred to comments made by Councilmember Ybaben
17 regarding his expectation to have architectural considerations for buildings within
18 Seal Beach, which Mr. Alexander understands is Mr. Ybaben's compromise
19 position regarding making Seal Beach look quaint. He stated that based upon
20 the architectural considerations presented and the ensuring discussion; he would
21 like to see what the actual proposed FAR calculations would be.
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23 There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Deaton closed public
24 comments.
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26 Commissioner Roberts commented that he is disappointed with the landscaping
27 in front of Stats at the Shops at Rossmoor. Mr. Whittenberg stated that Staff had
28 met with the representatives of the Rossmoor Center today, and they had
29 indicated that the grass planted was the wrong type, and it will be pulled out with
30 the appropriate type to be planted. He noted that the landscaping has been
31 designed as a storm water retention area to collect all drainage from the parking
32 lot areas.
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34 STAFF CONCERNS
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36 None.
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38 COMMISSION CONCERNS
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40 Commissioner Roberts asked if the Seal Beach Townhomes project has been
41 scheduled for review. Mr. Whittenberg stated that this is scheduled for July 18, 2007.
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43 ADJOURNMENT
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45 Chairperson Deaton adjourned the meeting at 11 :02 p.m. to the next scheduled meeting
46 of July 18, 2007.
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1 Respectfully Submitted,
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5 Carmen Alvarez, Executive Secretary
6 Planning Department
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9 APPROVAL
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11 The Commission on July 28, 2007, approved the Minutes of the Planning Commission
12 Meeting of Wednesday, June 20,2007. ~.
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