HomeMy WebLinkAboutPublic Comment from Ken SeiffPi�elir�es Project Pro oral
(October,025
PEOPLE AND SAFETY COME FIRST!
Critical Assessment., THE CASEAGAINST UTILIZING
COLLEGE PARK WEST/SEAL BEACH ROUTE
ALIGNMENT AND COLLEGE PARK BRIDGE
(contact: Ken Seiff, CPW/SEAL BEACH, CA)
(kseiff@uci.edu)
Resolved: This recycled/reclaimed waterproject(2
new pipelines, recycled water and sewer force line) is
worthy and important BUT too risky to the safety of the
CPW residential area in SB and does DDY should not
come through CPW, Seal Beach nor use the CP Drive
Bridge, especially since reasonable alternatives are
available within City of Long Beach and LA CcuntV.
These proposals present significant risk
inconvenience, and no ative irn act to dail life and
long-term safety of CPW residents withNQ
DEMONSTRABLE TAN
GIBLE BE TO THE
a CP/SEAL BEACH AREA MENTIONED AIV YII�HERE 1111
ANY DOCUMENTS OR PLANS
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The following discussion stresses documentable
evidence -based information and facts and NOT just
solely a "NIMBY" approach by a neighborhood under
threat of major adverse impacts and negative effects.
OF 2025-REFRENCES CAN BF P
FOR ALL FACT -,BASED STATEMENTS). However,
personal insights and opinions by the author are also
included based upon experiences interfacing with
Haynes Project Planners (LADWP, City of LB Utilities
Dept. -Lead Agency, City of Seal Beach); these will be
indicated as able.
UESTIONS AND COMMENTS --
1. Al nment and Route
**Were/are Planners aware of the unique and
EXISTENTIAL aspects of the CP Drive Bridge (the ONLY
INGRESS and EGRESS College Park West
neighborhood with no roadway detours available,
even for emergency/evacuation? THE PLANNERS
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APPARENTLY DID LITTLE IF ANY RESEARCH OR
BACKGROUND ON THE VERY UNIQUE GEOGRAPHIC
AND TRANSPORTATION/TRAFFIC
GEOMETRY OF THE CPW RESIDENTIAL AREA IN SEAL
BEACH (opinion)
**Were/are Planners aware of the existence of an
OFFICIAL CITY OF SB PRESERVE College Park West
Euc l tus Grove Preserve (photo: CPW Preserve
with OFFICIAL City of Seal Bech logo)
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that will be trenched and impacted according to the
Plans? Are Planners aware that CPW volunteers,
mostly older retired dedicated residents, have worked
for YEARS improving the preserve/entryway to CPW
neighborhood and along CP Drive which is the
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gateway to the area that is planned to be trenched and
seriously impacted? THE PLANNERS APPARENTLY
DID LITTLE IF ANY RESEARCH OR BACKGROUND ON
THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CPW
AREA?What would City of LB say if City of SB told them
they planned to construct pipelines across an
existential bridge and trench a City of LB Preserve in
one of their neighborhoods? (opinion)
**The documents indicate that concern by the
Planners for the time and complexity of obtaining
permits ultimately led to the decision to utilize CPW
for route ("favored route/alignment"); the documents
indicate that this route was NOT favored until quite
[ate. -Why were at least attempts atainin Dermits not
even REQUESTED OVER THE LAST MANY YEARS?
BOTTOM LINE: THE CHALLANGES AND
COSTS THA TDWPAND CITYOFLB HA VB
WITH THESE PR OJEC TS ARE THEIRS
ALONE AND SHOULD NOT BE PLACED
UPON THE SHOULDERS OF AND
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ACTUALLYIMPACT QUALITY OF LIFEAND
EVEN POTENTIALLY ENDANGER THE
RESIDENTS OF CPW AND CITIZENS OF
SEAL BEACH IN ORANGE COUNTY,
ESPECIALL Y WHEN AL TERNA TI VE
(WHETHER MORE COSTLY
DIFFICULT
DELAYING AND PROBLEMATIC OR NOT
FOR THE PLANNERS) ARE IN FA C T
AVAILABLE!!
**Where is official documentation that usage of the 22
FWY Bridge was at least re uested and DENIED by
CalTRANS?
**Where is official documentation that permits were
at least requested and DENIED by Army Corps of
Engineers as far as other bridge and alternative river
crossings? (At Edison Park Meeting in January 2025 it
was mentioned by Planners that ACE "denied" use of
A , tunneling under or other crossing of the channel).
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**Why was a DEDICATED PIPELINE BRIDGE solution
forcrossin not considered as an alternative and
r)resented to ACE? Comparatively inexpensive and
avoids utilizing major bridges or tunneling under the
river. Possible use of CURRENT dedicated pipeline
bridge (possibly with upgrades?) located just north of
2nd St. Bridge over the river. (photo of pipeline bridge
CURRENTLir over Sig River servicing Haynes Plant
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(photo: below another example of "simple" dedicated
pipeline bridge)
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**If ACE requires Dermits or "will not allow" as stated
by planners at Edison Park meeting) for new pipeLines
crossing over or under the river, why is this not
discussed in ANY of the documents regarding the CP
Bride plan to attach these as well as other crossings
of the river for the sewer line at the willow Street
Bridge?
**Why was the rationale for selecting the
alignment/route through CPW and the CP Bride and
consideration of ALTERNATIVES) essentially ignored in
the CEQA EIR documents as is required?)
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**Why was a specific comparison not performed
regarding the relative safety and suitab.iLity of other
bridges in Lona Beach such as Willow St., 22 FWY
and 2nd St.) to carry BOTH pipelines over the river
(utilizing OTHER alternative routes not evaluated in
detaitori nored)? For example; Willow Street Bridge
has "utility cells" underneath, 2nd Street has "median"
where pipeline could lay across bridge piers, and 22
Fwy also has a median? (photo e::cmple� cf macre
suitable potential alternative bridge pipeline
attachments in Long Beach including utility "cells"
beneath Willow Street Bridge and others)
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Segment S1-12 is located within the EI Dorado
Park Nature Center, north of Willow Street. This
portion of the alignment requires LADWP to
obtain an easement from the City of Long
Beach.
It is proposed to construct the sewer force main
in the dirt path within the EI Dorado Park Nature
Center.
ALIGNMENT EVALUATION
Photograph 4-9
Open Cell under Willow Street Bridge
at San Gabriel River
Segment Sl -13 is located within the EI Dorado
Park Nature Center, north of Willow Street. This portion of the alignment requires LADWP to obtain
an easement from the City of Long Beach.
It is proposed to construct the sewer force main in the dirt path within the EI Dorado Park Nature
Center. The pipeline Is proposed to connect to the LACSD 42 -inch sewer at an existing 60 -Inch
diameter manhole, located north of Willow Street and west of the 1-605 Freeway off -ramp.
Segment St -14 is a crossing of San Gabriel River from the southeast corner of EI Dorado Park to
north of San Gabriel River and Coyote Creek confluence, which is within a SCE right-of-way. This
portion of the alignment requires LADWP to obtain an easement from LACFCD and SCE. As detailed
on Figure 4-1, the crossing is shown near the south west portion of EI Dorado Park. The exact
location of the force main crossing, between Willow Street and the southern boundary of EI Dorado
Park, should be determined during the design stages to account for existing overhead electrical lines,
towers, trees, and other utilities.
It is proposed that the sewer force main be constructed using the jack -and -bore method to cross San
Gabriel River at this location. The location of the potential jacking and receiving pits are shown in
Photographs 4-10 and 4-11.
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**This is not just a NIMBY issue! There are reasonable
alternatives for these HIGH FLOW (up to 6MGD and
48 million pounds per day) pipelines to stay within the
City of LB and LA County. The CP Bridge and CPW
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community that it serves EXISTENTIALLY have already
done their part for carrying pipelines over many
decades, bearing 2 pipelines (one a more dangerous
OIL PIPELINE) all that time up to present. WHY is a
narrow EXIS ENTIAL basically RESIDENTIAL BRIDGE
.(the onl y wainlout of CPW ex ected to burden ALL 4
PIPELINES incLu(jin _ the_2 new ones1p anned)? There
are already 2 pre-existing OLDER PIPELINES (at or
approaching typical service Life) attached to the that
bridge as noted; one is a long standing DWP Water
Line (never mentioned in detail in the CEQA
documents even though pre-existing Infrastructure is
required to be discussed in the EIR) that has a recent
LEAK in April at the NE abutment of the CP Brid e and
has had other leaks along its length in the past (details
available) and the other is an aged OIL PIPELINE --see
more below regarding the WATER LEAK and the OIL
PIPELINE.
**Since so much time has passed apparently without
formal requests at least for permits by the Planners
from other agencies and public entities as discussed
in depth in multiple Planning Documents going back
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to 2020 (obtained by FOIA request in mid -2025 after
lack of response by Planners and any City of SB
assistance to obtain this information and lack of
assistance by City of SB) and even earlier, why could
the Planners at least at the current time even request
a WAIVER from State of CA Water Q u a titv Board to
extend the deadline for cOm letion of this projectfor
THE SAFETY OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA AT RISK OF
BEING COMPLETELY CUT OFF IF ANY ACUTE AND/OR
LATER CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF THIS PROJECT
D EVE LO PS? WHY TAKE EVEN THE SMALLEST RISK
WHEN OTHER ALTERNATIVES AREAVAILABLE?
People and safety come first!
**A very reasonable alternative route/alignment for
both pipelines completely within City of LB and LA
County would seem to be from the main entrance of
the Haynes Generating Station on 2nd Street to the
west and over the 2nd Street Brid a in LB to then turn
north -up Studebaker Road trenching),over the 7t"
Street Bridgeor micro tunnel under and continue
north to/from the Reclamation Facility north of El
Dorado Park as.planned.This approach appears even
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more feasible/reasonable because the long-awaited
STUDEBAKER ROAD ENHANCEMENT PROJECT in LB is
due to begin as of this writing. It would seem to make
sense to incorporate the construction of these
pipelines with the needed trenching involved
CONCURRENTLY with the Studebaker Road
improvement project for all the obvious reasons and
as well could avoid CPWand the CP Bridge entirely;
C�
ri►"v' residents have been attempting to Engage
LB/DWP in this regard for many months without
success. Has this even been proposed and/or
considered between LBUD and LB Public Works? (Per
the FOIA information, this route was originally ruled
against by the Planners due to "complexity and time
delay related to obtaining permits and permissions"
as well "concerns about wetlands". Yet no requests
for permits, encroachment agreements, or other
permissions were apparently even attempted, and
review of wetlands considerations for that approach
would seem minimal (opinion).
**Another alternative route/alignment also maybe
ossible apparently an "upgrade/retrofit" of the 22
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F Brid a has been Dianned bv CaITRANS for the last
fewyears: WHY CANNOT THESE PIPELINE PROJECTS
BE DELAYED AND ARRANGEMENTS MADE TO
"ATTACH" THESE 2 NEVA PIPELINES TO THE BRIDGE
AT THAT TIME AS PART OF THAT PROJECT? NOTE: The
22 Fwy Bridge already has a pipeline "attached" in
the median as does the 2nd Street Bridge. And the
Willow Street Bridge (as above noted) already has a
utility line of some kind underneath within "utility
cells" and apparently IS planned via this project
also to carry the SEWER LINE back across the river
to the reclamation facility but not the reclaimed
water line). All of these are much more robust and
suitable than the narrow EXISTENTIAL residential
CP Bridge that already has 2 pipelines attached to it
on the sides! Again also, these other bridges have
DETOURS available if anything untoward should
happen now or in future; CP BRIDGE HAS NO
FEASIBLE DETOUR AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY!!
The CP Bridge is ENTIRELY in City of Long Beach
and LA County; what is the emergency plan for
relief of CPW nei hborhood in an emergency
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situation where the bridge becomes unusable or
severety Limited especiallyespeciatty for a Long period of
time?? WHY WERE THESE VERY SERIOUS
CONCERNS AND POTENTIALITIES NOT
CONSIDERED EARLIER AND STILL NOT BEING
ADDRESSED CURRENTLY AS FAR AS RESIDENTS
HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE? Should pubtic safe
es g!Qia
ft for a residentiaL area with many senior
citizens and msn ■chi!dre not by the Pararrto rtt
consideration in any such proiect with a realistic
approach to any possibLe risk? It appears that
aspects_of plannin in this situation were Wer short
Sighted o inion ESPECIALLY AGAIN WHEN
REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES WEREIARE
AVAILABLE!
**Multiple other routes and alignments are also
potentially available as alternatives to CPW and the
bridge. Many of these were discussed in depth in
previous documents obtained via the FOIA request
mentioned; again, the Planners never agreed to
discuss alternatives in detail so far nor respond to
email questions. The other possible
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routes/alignments were ruled out by them as not
feasible with inadequate reasoning and support.
(Documentation and further discussion are available
upon request.)
2. College Park Dr. RESIDENTIAL Bridge (24ANE)
(Also closely related to Route and Alignment Issues;
obviously, no consideration of CP Bridge necessary if
alternative route could be utilized)
**Were/are Planners aware of the EXISTENTIAL
NATURE OF THIS BRIDGE as the ONLyway in and
out of CPW area, including for emergency
evacuation (unless bridge is unusable in a manner
which would negate even the emergency escape
route). There are also NO DETOURS available as
noted above: WHY IS THIS NOT MENTIONED IN THE
CEQA DOCUMENTS as discussion of risks and all
infrastructure is REQUIRED.
**It almost appears as the route and alignment
through CPW/Seal Beach and use of the Bridge
seemed "assumed" with only "afterthought" as to the
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potential severe impact, risk, and even possible
DANGER to the community (opinion)
**That Bridge is NOT JUST A CONDUIT FOR PIPELINES
but is THE EXISTENTIAL LIFELINE for the CPW
neighborhood. It already bears 2 older pipelines;
again, why does this one older bridge in suboptimal
condition (see below) need to bear all 4 of these
pipelines including the 2 new ones planned. The CPW
Community and that residential bridge have done their
part; other bridges in Long Beach are larger, have
detours available, and medians or utility cells more
suitable for adding new pipelines.
**Consideration as to safe feasibilityofadding 2 new
Pipelines in context of the age, condition, and status
of the brid a is NEVER considered in the CEOA
documents NOR in multiple other Planner documents
(FOIA documents) obtained and reviewed going back
years Including as possibly related to earthquakes.
tsunami, or other major risk; this ESSENTIAL
CONCERN appears to have been totally missed or
i nored. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY IN OR OUT OF
CPW for the routine daily activity and transportation
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required for the normal function of an active
neighborhood (far beyond basic single file emergency
evacuation routes). Minimal or no (in the CEQA
documents) mention of the EXISTENTIAL NATURE OF
THIS BRIDGE in many years of INSPECTIONS of this
bridge (that are available) with concerning findings
over time (as per FOIA documents obtained).
**"Informal" consultation with engineers (civil, traffic,
structural, mechanical) contacted personally --
(personal communications) all agreed with the
following: all added load, static and nnamic, to an
existing bridge structure, especially over 60 years
old with minimal rehab and retrofit over the years
and significant current deficiencies, MUST be
extensively reassessed with this consideration,
given that the original design and build would not
anticipate added new stress which may potentially
result in and/or accelerate existing structural
issues. " This has NOT been accomplished to our
knowledge. Note: bridge engineering theory and
practice classically "recommends" up to 40%
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added structure[ strep thenen for DYNAMIC
STRESS element .
**The PLanners at the Edison Park Meeting with CPN
residents last January indicated that"the Long Beach
engineers have signed off on the projects" but no
evidence of this has been rovided nor found in the
extensive documents available for review.
"The latest Inspection of the Bridge 1/25125-
LACDPW-LA vont De t. of Public Works Ins ection
Re art ?/25125 --available to provide upon reques-t,_
includes subsurface inspection_b_y
CalTRANS emphasizes VERY SIGNIFICANT
DEFICIENCIES and ageincIudln Severe wear
down to rusting rebar on some of the
iers some of which has been present and
unattended to foryears (this can be seen when
viewing the bridge). Significant remediation was
recommended, and Bridge was given only "status
level" 4. No specific/defined approach or plan has
been seen from Planners in these regards even though
there is plan to add the 2 new pipelines per this
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project although repair of the bridge has been brought
up in some discussions at meeting of DWP with SB
Councilmember Wong, Mayor Landau and Public
Works Director Lee in September 2025 (see more
below) but ONLY AFTER PIPELINES HAVE BEEN
CONSTRUCTED AND APPARENTLY ONLY MINIMAL
VAGUE ASSURANCE THAT BRIDGE "COULD" BE
REMEDIATED TO "6". (Documentation available upon
request)
**Also, even though this has been brought up
extensively to the Planners as able in the past (prior to
their apparent decision to cease engaging with the
community (opinion)) , there has been no response to
CPW community reference to latest NBI National
Bridge Inventor/US Highway_ Administration) and
never referenced in the CE A/EIR documents:
Poor
NBI Bridge
Structurally Deficient
Condition
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On 9 Point
Scale:
Structural
Evaluation 4
Attachment link:
httpsL.1/data.usatodacorn/bridg.e/california/los-
an eteslcolle e- ark-dr-san- abriel-riv/05-53co139/
**Latest CaITRAMNS 1N S PE CT I M OF BRIDGE
(including CaITRANS underwater evaluation 1/25
available upon -request and mentioned above)
noted SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES in the bridge
superstructure, including actual concrete loss and
damage down to rusting/corroded re -bar on certain
piers; wear and damage had been noted over many
years. Repair and remediation "are recommended"
and bridge rating again onlygiven as "4". The
situation was deemed severe enough that
POSSIBLE CLOSURE OF THE BRIDGE V1lAS
MENTIONED BUT RULED OUT as necessary at the
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time! Even a "thought" of transient CLOSURE for
this bridge should be a f Lashing emergency light!! --
closure of that bridge for even a day would be
basicaRv intolerable for the CPW area—a ain
there is no other automobile nor "reasonable"
walking) access in and out of CPW!! other than for
significant emergency. (It is again not even clear
from the document if CaLTRANS itself is aware of
the EXISTENTIAL NATURE of the CP Bridge to CPW
neighborhood and concern that Planners of this
project, LADWP, and City of LB do not ,grasp the
seriousness of this situation! _Even with aLL the
concern and deficiencies in this Latest LACDPW
inspection of the bridge, this latest (1125) inspection
did NOT assess the potentiaL. impact and risks and
especiallyespeciaLty Long term DotentiaLcumuLativedynamic
effects of attachin 2 ADDITIONAL high flow
pipelines to this bridge with one of the older
pipelines also aLready a potentiaLty additional)
dangerous OIL PIPELINE and the other one
ALREADY LEAKING see next sect—ion)! These issues
were never mentioned in that inspection report or
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even that such a proiectwas planned_; did the
inspectors back in 1/25 evaluate the bridge with all
these considerations in mind? --it appears NOT.
**LEAK AT NE ABUTMENT OF CP BRIDGE, 4/25:
This was noted to arise from the OLD DWP water pipe
attached to the north side of the bridge where it exited
the ground to attach to the side of the bridge near the
driveway down to the bike path on the levee
(designated Emergency Evacuation Route). Unclear if
there was further leakage underground or an
additional leakep chaps ONGOING; this pipeline is
very old and at or beyond its usual predicted working
life. It has sustained other leaks in the past (details
available upon request). Other than barely mention,
there is little or no discussion of this pre-existing
pipeline on the bridge related to the planned
additional pipelines to be attached in the CEQA
documents or FOIA material. The work took around 2
weeks (photos: activity of DWP repair of the pipeline
leak)
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No discussion or details have ever been provided by
any agency or City to CPW residents regarding details
of this situation nor any potential implications.
Consultation (personal communication) with
engineers and personal research has revealed that
such a situation should be taken VERY SERIOUSLY
AND FURTHER EXTENSIVELY INVESTIGATED, NOT
JUST "REPAIRED". A visible leak could also signify an
underground water seepage, soil h er-saturation
ossible hydraulic subsidence and/or other serious
hydrologic issues that could potentially at an
abutment actually possibtythreaten a brill e! Was this
done? It appears not (see photos), but residents have
been unable to obtain information regarding this
situation. This pipeline, already long pre-existing on
the bride needs attention.; what is the Longer term
plan? i't would seem DWP should address this OLD,
LEAKING PIPELINE before planning to add even
further pipelines. The below photos demonstrate
expectant best practices engineering approach for
testing regarding such issues by another agency in a
different flood control channel in CPW recently
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(details available upon request). (Photos FOR
COMPARISION demonstrating recommended "best
practice" testing for soil saturation and possible
subsidence via soil sampling with out -outs in
concrete apron of flood control channel slope, as
recommended by engineering best practices. This
more rigorous approach was apparently NOT
PERFORMED for the abutment pipeline leak at CP
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as no response by City of SB or Haynes Project
Planners to multiple requests for information in this
rega rd.)
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**Kleinfelder Engineering Evaluation of the Bridge,
5125: (available upon request
A more detailed engineering evaluation of the
Bride even beyond, routine scheduled
inspections) should have been performed much
earlier as part of the CEQA EIR for this project
specifically for many important reasons noted
above regarding the condition and circumstances
of the bridge and be and the standard routine
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scheduled inspection protocol (Such would be
appear to be required by CEOA EIR regulations and
at least given that this is an EXISTENTIAL BRIDGE
for the routine functioning as well as emergency
escape for the CPW neighborhood) Again. CPW
residents were told at the meeting with Planners in
Edison Park last January told "Long Beach engineers
have signed off on it" but no documentation of that
.has ever been provided and is not seen in in any
documentation obtained via the FOIA mentioned. This
was finally performed just this past May. The reasons
why finally undertaken are unclear; possibly due to the
LEAK? Possibly due to the 1/25 LA County and
CaITRANS Inspection? Possibly due to continued
concerns raised by CPW residents and others
regarding the condition of the bridge, especially
related to the construction and addition of new
pipelines?) NOTE: Many CPW residents started
speaking in Public Comment at SB City Council
meetings regarding concerns with these pipeline
proposals and the threats to the CP Bridge especially.
Also, a petition was submitted to council requesting
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an independent specialty engineering evaluation of
the bridge sponsored by City of SB instead of the
Planners.
This Kleinfelder analysis, requested and paid for by the
Planners, has many deficiencies, omissions, and
shortcomings (details and detailed discussion
available upon request). Note that there are photos of
the rusting rebar on piers of the bridge in the
Kleinfelder and LA County/CaITRANS
inspection/analysis reports. The admitted goal of the
evaluation stated in the document was to determine if
the Bridge would be suitable for the attachment of 2
additional pi.pelines (APPARENTLY ONLY THE
PIPELINES THEMSELVES!; NO MENTION OF THE
ADDED CONTENTS OF THE NEW PIPELINES. STATIC
OR DYNAMIC!�. The conclusion was "acceptable" and
could be done BEFORE the repairs that were deemed
necessary were carried out (which does not seem
supported by the most recent CaITRANS inspection
from January mentioned above) --the Planners seemed
to obtain the result of the study that was to their
optimal benefit. There is no reference to the NBI
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Evaluation mentioned above nor the most specific
serious concerns in the most recent Bridge
Inspections also discussed above; did Kleinfelder
completely review this available information going
back years in depth? (see above). This stud
ADMITTED there was NO evaluation of DYNAMIC
stress forces related to a eration of the pipelines
which would be carrying up to about 6_MGD (up to
about 4.8 Million pounds Wer da..) and add to that of
the other pre-existing, ipelines alreadyfunctionin
on this over 60 vear old bridge with serious structural
Lssues. This study also documented no accounting for
other serious threats to the "pipeline -bridge s stem"
such as earth uakes high rapid water floods or
tsunamis. The implication and impact for construction
and acute risks as well as cumulative, especially
dynamic multiplied forces, was NOT evaluated
regarding the pre-existing older 2 pipelines already
attached to the bridge including the older, leaking
DWP water pipeline and the (also at or past typical
safe working life period) active also very old OIL
PIPELINE (not given attention at all in this document
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or in the CEQA or FOIA documents; see more below).
Further, it again does not appear that this study was
performed with the added concern that the CP Bridge
is EXISTENTIAL to CPW and there is "no other way out
if something serious would happen"; these very
concerning oversights seems persistent throughout all
the documents and planning for these pipeline
proposals with a lack of detailed knowledge about the
CPW area and the bridge. optimally, a
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**OIL (PETROLEUM) PIPELINE (Zenith Energy Line
#508) mentioned above is very old and has been
attached to the south side of CP Bridge for over 60
years. (photo below: OIL PIPELINE attached to the
south (downriver ocean side) of the CP Bridge.)
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Figure 2-8. College Park Drive Crossing the San Gabriel River
Obviously, this oil pipeline presents significant higher
risk to the bridge for any acute construction that could
add another pipeline encroachment in the direct
vicinity as well as cumulative possible impacts to
bridge and oil pipeline overtime (including
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dynamic effects from the high flow planned as noted).
Further, there is again minimal mention of this oil
pipeline in the documents and no discussion
regarding the potential risk for this project during build
and cumulative to the bridge -pipeline system
infrastructure over time. This is a major engineering
oversight; any serious incident related to the oil
pipeline could impact this EXISTENTIAL BRIDGE (and
advei 5e �iici t ti 1 L p0`',''hly imNL�te the hridgw r-ni ilri
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potentially impact the OIL PIPELINE and other
pipelines). OBVIOUSLY, ANY PIPELINE INCIDENT
WOULD BE MULTIPLIED BY POTENTIAL FIRE AND
EXPLOSION POSSIBILITIES WITH AN OIL PIPELINE
AND DANGEROUS THREATS TO SURROUNDING
COMMUNITIES (including very nearby in Long Beach
itself) AND/OR LEAKAGE INTO THE RIVER OF TOXIC
PETROLEUM SUBSTANCES THAT COULD HAVE VERY
SERIOUS DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS INCLUDING UPON
WETLANDS AND ENDANGERED SPECIES (SUCH AS
PACIFIC GREEEN TURTLES THAT LIVE IN THE RIVER
NEAR THE OCEAN) AND EVEN SEEN FARTHER
INLAND INCLUDING NEAR CPW) AND INTO THE
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OCEAN ITSELF. WHY TAKE THIS RISK, ESPECIALLY
WHEN COULD BE AVOIDED? Such considerations
are NOT DISCUSSED ANYWHERE IN THE
DOCUMENTS SO FAR FOUND. In fact. this actually
should be a CA Coastal Commission concern.
The role of Zenith Energy in this regard as far as
oversight of their pipeline and safety considerations
related to this construction and plan including
cumulative effects is also never mentioned.
SHOULDN'T SOME DECISIONS FIRST BE MADE
(ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS) REGARDING
THE FUTURE OF THAT OIL PIPELINE ATTACHED TO
THE BRIDGE GIVEN ITS AGE AND BEING
AT/BEYOND ITS TYPICAL SAFE FUNCTIONAL "LIFE
SPAN" BEFORE ATTACHING 2 NEW ADDITIONAL
PIPELINES?? (SIMILAR AS RELATED TO
CONSIDERATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE FOR THE
AGED AND LEAKING DWP WATER PIPELINE
ALREADY ATTACHED TO THE BRIDGE BUT WITH
EVEN MORE SERIOUS FLAMMABLE, EXPLOSIVE,
TOXIC PETROLEUM CONTENTS). The new pipeline
adjacent to the old OIL PIPELINE is planned to be
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placed ABOVE it, very close to the pavement deck
which adds to the unsightly appearance and as well is
very near the pavement deck for access to graffiti or
attempts to climb out upon it. And again, the
cPW/Seal Beach community and the existential
bridge have been "good neighbors" and endured 2
pre-existing pipelines on that bridge for decades
(includinga more dangerous oil pipeline); it would
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Long Beach can and should route these new planned
pipelines through another alignment and river
crossing in their own city. Also, multiple contact ►ryas
attempted with Zenith Enera re ardin their
pipeline andany. accountabiLit-
recommendations, guidance, and oversight
regarding this �ro..�ect, vet they deferred and their
lack of resonse and engagement are very_
disap ointin and concernin details available .
Zenith Energy -should ideally be carefully involved and
active in this project with respect to their OIL PIPELINE
for optimal safety, coordinate with the Planners and
not be permitted to avoid their responsibility here, and
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this should be forthcoming and open to the public and
community. It is very disappointing that CPW has been
a "good neighbor" for decades to that pipeline almost
in our "backyards" yet Zenith now does not appear to
be a "good neighbor" to the community; the Planners
(City of LB and DWP) should "insist" on this in support
of the community and residents regarding involvement
by Zenith Energy and for their interface with the
community and Planners (for the planning and much
more actively if in fact the project proceeds).
**TSUNAMI RISK: The San Gabriel River Channel is
within the Tsunami Hazard Risk Area at this location.
(photo: CA State Department of Conservation,
Tsunami Hazard Risk Area, SG River Channel.)
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This indicates potential threat to river, adjacent
riverbanks and levees, and infrastructure along the
channel and crossing the river..TH1S POTENTIAL
HAZARD RISK IS NOT MENTIONED OR DISCUSSED
IN THE DOCUMENTS. There is also "high rapid water
flood" risk to bridges and other infrastructure along
the river channel (even IF actual inundation over
banks does not take place per the maps of the
locations) due to unusually severe coastal and
seasonal storms as well as potential upstream dam
and/or flood control breach (reference: 2025 Update
(Draft): City of Seal Beach Hazard Risk Mitigation
Plan—available, online, from City of Seal Beach). For
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the CP Bridge, the potential risk is multiplied even
further by the presence of an OIL PIPELINE on the
south (coastal) side of the bridge with added
possibility of leak and/or fire/explosion possibly
knocking out that EXISTENTIAL BRIDGE and
potentially totally "cutting off" a whole
neighborhood in an emergency (discussed above
also). WERE THE NUANCES OF EMERGENCY ESCAPE
ROUTES IN CPW EVER EVEN CONSIDERED BY THE
HAYN ES PLAN N ERS? Note that the DNL Y 0 THER
curr ntEmer enc v Em cuation Ro utes for CPW in
the vent the P Bridke i in fact " ut"/unavairabie
is " in le file" along the bike ath ato th east
Levee to the river northUD to Willow Street and a
new "single file" route behind CP Drive north of the
Preserve out to a freeway offramp just obtained in
the last CQUIDle months. !fa serious threat to the
river channel develops. them in emer en
es a e route Ldiacent to the bridge down to the
Wk_eDath may also become unavailable and the
community again could b "trapped". Further, the
entry down to -the bike path for escape is direct[
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adjacent to the northeast abutment of the bridge-
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ander again, any s vere damage to the iaridge rrrar
again endanger thability to evacuate via thebike
path as d cribe and (photos: driveway at NE
abutment of the bridge down to bike path on east
levee.)
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possibly..isolating an entire neighborhood
community in an emergency?? Th e u n i q u e a n d
limiting characteristics of the landscape,
jurisdictions. geography, and set-up of the area it
appears were not studied/realized in de th by the
Planners and it seems essential that this should
be accomplished in detail before approval of any
Plan utilizing the CPwarea alignment andtheCP
Bridge. Any acute construction and/or additive
cumulative adverse effects with the addition of 2
new high flow pipelines that could "weaken" the
resilience of the bridge -pipeline system to impact
of tsunami, high rapid water flood event,
earthquake, or other potential threat should be
studied from an static and dynamic bridge
engineering specialty perspective with the safety
of an entire neighborhood in play (the Kleinfelder
study from May 2025 does NOT meet this
standard).
**EARTHOUAKE RISK: The presence of earthquake
fault hazards in the project area is mentioned in the
CEQA EIR documents but no mention of the fitness of
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the bridge (including after adding 2 new additional
pipelines) to the CP Bridge is mentioned nor studied.
In other documents it is noted that bridge had limited
earthquake retrofit apparently around 2007 (early
2000's); no studies of its ability to withstand
earthquake has been performed since and no other
rehab/retrofit has been undertaken of the structure,
superstructure, piers, or abutments (including below
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compromised condition as noted in most recent
CalTRANS inspection of 1/25 (mentioned above).
These most serious considerations (REGARDING THE
BRIDGE SPECCIFICALLY) are apparently not even
given note in the Planner documents available
although some assessment of earthquake risk to the
PIPELINES is mentioned (which again could seriously
impact the bridge as well, especially the OIL PIPELINE)
although essentially "dismissed". Again, the
Kleinfelder Bridge study DID NOT assess for
earthquake status of the bridge at all, let alone under
conditions of 2 new added attached pipelines
carrying, again, up to 6 MGD total (3 million gallons
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per day each, up to 48 million pounds of per day total)
in addition to the "normal" burden of the bridge and
other dynamic factors over time such as vibration
from normal usage, wind, weather, and water impact
to the piers (especially given its advanced age and
already KNOWN compromised structural condition as
described in depth above). Omitting this and/or giving
these known and potentially very serious risk
concerns "short shrift" especially when the ONLY
INGRESS AND EGRESS to an entire neighborhood is
on the line, even in an emergency evacuation situation
possibly due to the unique characteristics of the
physical "lay out" of the area as described in depth,
might seem to some to border upon the
"irresponsible" considering the importance of
carefully taking potential EARTHQUAKE risk and
impact into very careful account for such construction
projects and developments. A comprehensive
independent specialty bridge structural engineering
study including detailed "best practice" assessment
of the bridge -pipelines system and the added planned
project should be commissioned and carried out as
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part of the review to assess the "hardness" ability of
the system to withstand earthquake and other
namic stress and in fact is required, especially
when an entire neighborhood may be under increased
risk/threat. The most up-to-date modeling, simulation
(computerized stress testing), solid and structural
sampling, ultrasound, LIDAR, UV/X-RAY, and
underwater assessment techniques should be
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3. TRAFFIC AND ACCESS SERIOUS ISSUES
FOR RESIDENTS DURING CONSTRUCTION IN CPW,
ON THE BRIDGE, AND DOWN CP DRIVE IN LB OUT
To THE INTERCHANGE AT CP DRIVE, STU DEBAKER,
7T" STREET, AND 22 FWY—THIS IS A COMPLICATED
AND COMPLEX ISSUE BUT WITH VERY LITTLE
INFORMATION ABLE To BE OBTAINED SO FAR
DESPITE EXTENSIVE ATTEMPTS To GAIN THIS FROM
HAYNES PLANNERS, CITY OF SB, AND CALTRANS.
CITY OF SB REPORTEDLY WOULD BE ABLE To
REVIEW THE TRAFFIC PLANS (mention of time limit
of 30 Mays) BUT THERE WOULD BE LIMITATION OF
ABILITY TO IMPACT THIS AT CITY OF LB AND
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CALTRANS RIGHT OF WAY AND ENCROACHMENT
AREAS THAT STILL WOULD GREATLY IMPACT
ACCESS TO CPW DUE TO THE ESSENTIAL NATURE
OF CP Drive and the BRIDGE AS THE ONLY
ENTRY/EXIT. NOTE: Trenching would occur across CP
Drive in CPW and along CPD in LB. Also, traffic flow
Likely will be controlled with 1 lane for an extended
period along sections of CP Drive, including the
bridge, with likely DELAYS. Also, possible concerns for
school buses, emergency vehicles, etc.
FOR A MORE DETAILED AND COMPREHENSIVE
DISCUSSION OF THE TRAFFIC ASPECTS AND VERY
SERIOUS DRA WBA CIES AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO
CPW RESIDENTS PLEASE CONTACT VIA EMAIL
ABOVE.
4. NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO CPW GROVE
PRESERVE AND ENTRYWAY—Again, a complex
issue with multiple aspects still unknown. For certain,
there will be an "exit/entry pit" in the grove for the
pipes to go under the 22 Fwy which is described as
10X40x50 feet and 3-5 feet deep! For those familiar
with the grove, it is obvious that this will have a
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significant footprint on that small grove. Further,
mature trees, perhaps 80 years old or more, will likely
bo removed. The entryway to CPW will undoubtedly be
greatly changed for years. Also, the years of hard work
and dedication by the volunteer CPW Landscape Crew
will likely be certainly undone/ruined. Example: the
beautiful bougainvillea hedge (also a buffer to the
glare of freeway lights at night) along the fence line
bordering the freeway along CP Drive will a_i.most
assuredly have to be removed with no "guarantee"
this would be replaced. The residents of CPW and the
City of SB deserve much more detailed discussion
from the Planners about the construction impacts in
the grove/preserve, at the neighborhood entryway,
and along our streets and access.
AGAIN FORA MORE DETAILED AND
COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION OF THE PRESERVE
GROVE, ENTRYWAY AND ACCESS ASPECTS AND
VERY SERIOUS DRAWBACKS AND IVE ATlV
IMPACTS TO CPWRESIDENTSo PLEASE CONTACT
VIA EMAIL ABOVE.
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. Potential serious drawbacks and adverse
implications to City of Seal Beach regarding the
Proposed ADJuSTMENTICHANGE IN Sols here of
influence change and annexation for the sanitation
services of a parcel of Seat Beach property_.
This parcel is on the LADWP Haynes Generating
Station site just south of the 22 Fwyto be transferred
FROM Orange County Sanitation District (OCSD) as
current TO LA County Sanitation District (LACSD)
(reference -Sewer Force Main Line CEQA EIR
documents)
The sewer force line proposal includes a provision for
the annexation change in SOI of Sanitation District
Services for the small area of property on the Haynes
Plant -(OC Parcel #APN 095-681-1% 6,8 acres.)_ that is
actually within the City of Seal Beach. The documents
appear to emphasize the role of City of Long Beach, LA
County, LACSD, and LACLAFC (LA County Local Area
Formation Commission) for this endeavor with only
vague mention of City of Seal Beach, Orange County,
OCSD, and OCLAFC (Orange County Local Area
Formation Commission). There appears to be no
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proactive inclusion of Seal Beach, Orange County,
and residents in the process but described as more of
a "foregone conclusion" that this would be approved.
There seems to be a lack of active inclusion of Orange
County influence and residents in the process, but
rather Planner mentions "keep City of SB aware of the
process". This annexation and change of SOI does not
appear to offer any benefit to City of Seal Beach or
Orange County. in fact, there are multiple potential
future negative implications and pitfalls. Typically,
urban civic entities are reluctant to approve any kind
of change in SOI unless for a particular beneficial
necessity; such potential benefit is not seen here. But
possible multiple future complications for the City of
Seal Beach and Orange County if this annexation
change in SOI for sanitation district service is
approved include the following:
--potential complications to City of SB and OC if the
LADWP ever wishes to sell off, lease, or rent the land
which remains within City of Seal Beach city limits and
Orange County, but sewers would be serviced by
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LACSD in LA County. This could also conceivably
create complications for OCSD in future situations
--the type of development on such property in the
future could be limited by the fact that another county
sanitation district would be handling sewer utility
service; this could limit the preference of the City of
SB as to what it might deem optimal for the property
(still in SB City Limits) and perhaps even complicate
zoning as well as potential (sales) tax revenue at the
time. Rates (especially water and sewer rates
compared to the rest of City of Seal Beach that is
serviced by OCSD and other OC based service
utilities) and related financial aspects of a utility (such
as possible bond issues) could also be complicated
by such a situation with lack of usual "oversight" over
such by City of SB and County of Orange (as well as
OCSD if they might be involved)
--this change also may have implications upon future
use of the land as far as the preferences of and impact
upon local Seal Beach residents and commercial
entities adjacent to the parcel involved. NOTE: This
area (Orange County, City of Seal Beach parcel) is
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adjacent to College Park West area of the City (CPW
just to the north of the 22 Fwy) and DIRECTLY
ADJACENTto areas of Leisure World, Seal Beach to
the east. Thus, the Leisure World area of SB could also
face significant negative effects and circumstances in
the future.
(below: maps of proposed SOI/Annexation from CEQA
Elft documents)
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6. Response of Haynes Planners and —Cit of SR
to CPW Resident Concerns
Note: Nothing in this writing is intended to be critical
of or reflect negatively upon any individual including
the Haynes Planner team or at City of Seal Beach. It is
assumed everyone has good intentions and is trying to
do their job. Any viewpoints expressed relate to the
experience in seeking institutional and bureaucratic
responses over the past more than one year while
trying to obtain information, offer opinions, express
concerns, and ask questions. The responses of the
Planners have been disappointing, inadequate, and
disingenuous as they have avoided
interfacing/engaging with CPW residents and seem
fearful of even supporting their own project in a public
forum. The City of Seal Beach response and reaction
have also been disappointing so far, with a lack of
urgency and support it seems from City Staff and City
Council (except for City CouncilmembersTom Moore
and then Ben Wong)
Planners: THE PLANNERS OF THIS PROJECT AS
WELL AS ZENITH ENER G Y) HAVE NEVER ACTIVELY
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REACHED CUT OR RESPONDED TO THE RESIDENTS
F CPWI EAL BEACH REGARDING THESE
PROPOSALS... AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING IN
EDISCN PARD CPW THIS PAST JANUARY THAT
FINA L L Y HA P P ENED AFTER EXTENSIVE LOBBYING
BY CPW RE IDENTS AND INPUT BY CUR LOCAL B
COUNCILMEMBERS. (Moore and Wong) WAS
UNSATISFACTORY TO A GREAT NUMBER OF CPW
RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS AND RAISED MANY
MORE QUUTIONS THAN ANSWERS. A PETITION OF
OVER 200 SIGNATURES WAS PRESENTED TO THE
CITY OF SB CITY COUNCIL EXPRESSING SERIOUS
CONCERNS WITH THESE PLANS. MULTIPLE
OUTREACH ATTEMPTS TO PLANNERS BY CPW
RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS. INCLUDING THIS
A UTHIOR, REGARDING RE UEST FOR MORE
INFORMA TION AND ADDRESS OF SERIOUS
UE MONS/ ONCERNS HA VE BEEN BASICALL Y
FR ITLE S TO THE DA TE OF THIS WRITING. The la c k
of respect for the community reflected in the lack of
willingness to engage in interchange and
communication has been very discouraging,
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especially if the Planners would hope to try to explain
their side of the issues and try to gain support for their
projects. This past March this writer was in
communication with Planners, contractors and
consultants from a meeting at Edison Park last
January; they were quite pleasant and cordial. They
"promised" a complete response to all questions by
"the end of the month" or "in a few weeks". Despite
multiple follow up inquiries, these Planner individuals
never responded again and basically ignored follow
attempts. (documentation is available). For this
reason,a CPW resident submitted official FOIA
requests to gain information and persisted in this
regard until EXTENSIVE material was finall provided
available for review upon re uest . It is not clear if the
Planners ever were aware of the neighborhood
petition. In August 2025 it became known that the
Planners had initiated the BID PROCESS for
management and construction of the Haynes
Pipelines Project, apparently unusual (especially
for a civil/government entity) in that appropriate
and required permits and agreements (including
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encroachment permits, Franchise Agreement, and
Local Agency Formation Commission approvals (LA
and OC) not obtained yet. (it at least appears that
the Planners are trying to advance their plans and
establish an "inertia" that would make denying or
delaying the proposed plans seem less feasible
given "all the work put in so far". In early September
2025, thanks to the efforts of Councilmember Ben
Wong via contacts with the Haynes DWP Generating
Station management, a meeting to include a group of
CPW residents was arranged. At the last minute DWP
indicated that CPW residents were NOT WELCOME at
the meeting! Councilmember Wong, City of SB Mayor
Lisa Landau, and City of SB Public Works Director Iris
Lee were present, and DWP presented a Power Point
presentation addressing previously submitted written
questions (available for review upon request). CPW
residents felt these responses were inadequate. For
example, in answer to questions regarding concerns
about the OIL PIPELINE on the bridge, the answer was,
"that is not under our jurisdiction" rather than
proactively addressing the serious worry about the
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issue and at least offering to further engage as able on
this topic in a more forthright and supportive fashion.
The Planners via Councilmember Wong did submit
additional documentation and material, but almost all
of that had already been obtained by CPW residents
via the FOIA efforts mentioned earlier. At the time of
this writing, apparently after much effort,
Councilmember Wong has obtained agreement by the
Haynes Planners to have another meeting including
direct interface with CPW residents; details to be
determined. Apparently, DWP/LB Planners are again
initially requesting pre -submitted written questions,
and so far it is not clear if there will also be included
spontaneous and proactive discussion requiring them
to defend their project to residents, something that so
far has not happened despite residents continuously
advocating for such and exchange.
City of SB: Other than Councilmember Tom Moore
and followed by current Councilmember Ben Wong, it
is the feeling of many CPW residents that the
response by our City of SB to the major concerns and
serious negative impacts of these proposals to the
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CPW area has been less than supportive. There has
been no sense of urgency generated and no real
"reaching out" by the City so far despite the
complexity and complicated nature of these plans and
the EXISTENTIAL circumstance of the CP bridge for the
wellbeing and very existence of the CPW
neighborhood. The response to the petition presented
to City Council, email inquiries and other attempted
contacts, and multiple resident Public Comments to
Council has been basically nil. No proactive approach
to study, investigation, or attempt to gain further
information in a meaningful way has really occurred,
except as mentioned in the efforts of Councilmember
Wong and before him (former) Councilmember Moore.
Responses from City Staff and City Attorney have
been basically that "no Franchise Agreement"
application has been submitted yet with feeling
apparently this matter would be investigated then.
However, the concern is that multiple other major
issues ongoing will continue to also pre -occupy and
distract the City process. Tight decision deadlines (30
days) are typically required for City response per
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CEQA regulations once such an agreement
application has been submitted. CPW residents
believe there should have been and remains so
currently that nothing would prevent our City from
proactively and early seeking information, doing
research, encouraging interface and accountability
from the Planners to residents and the City, and
communicating actively to support CPW residents
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taking official action on a formal Franchise Agreement
decision. Unfortunately, this has not occurred to date.
The experience of several CPW residents in making
inquiries to various City of SB staff and officials
regarding these projects is as described above as well
as being told basically, "The Bridge is `owned' by City
of LB and there is not much we can do about it". A
great many CPW residents disagree and are very
disappointed and discouraged by this response and
lack of substantive support from our City in the
opinion of many. The residents of CPW will plan to
continue to insist that the City of SB REJECT or
possibly modify in collectively agreed upon
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approaches and also encourage/insist that DWPand
City of LB construct these otherwise worthy
environmental projects within their own City and
County boundaries via available alternative routes and
alignments.
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