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that he will be providing a report to Council with regard to
specific questions posed.
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Antos said he believed that the complaints that he
receives this year relative to the street closure he will
refer to his fellow counci1members. Mayor Larson requested
that the City Manager look into the problems cited relating
to the Beach parking lots and the Grace Church. The Manager
agreed to do so.
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CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting until May 12th, 2003.at 6:30 p.m. By
unanimous consent, the meeting was adjourned at 7:51 p.m.
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Seal Beach, California
May 12, 2003
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:30 p.m. with Mayor Larson calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Larson
Councilmembers Antos, Campbell, Doane, Yost
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that pursuant to the Brown Act
the City Council would meet in Closed Session to discuss
Items A and B identified on the agenda, a conference with
legal counsel with regard to existing litigation, City of
Seal Beach versus Ribal, and with regard to two cases! of
anticipated litigation. The Council adjourned to Closed
Session at 6:31 p.m. and reconvened at 6:52 p.m. with!Mayor
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Larson calling the meeting to order. The City Attorney
reported that the Council discussed Item A, gave direction to
legal counsel, no other action was taken.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 6:53 p.m.
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Approved:
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Mayor
Attest:
Seal Beach, California
May 12, 2003
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:01 p.m. with Mayor Larson calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Larson
Councilmembers Antos, Campbell, Doane, Yost
Absent:
None
Also present:
Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Danes, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Ms. Arends-King, Director of Administrative
Services
Mr. Vukojevic, Deputy City Engineer
Mr. Cummins, Associate planner
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mayor Larson announced that upon request Item "H", the
Brightwater Water Transmission Project, and Item "I", the
Trees for Seal Beach proposal to construct tree islands at
the 300 block of Main Street crosswalk, is being held over
until a future meeting. Councilmember Campbell requested
that Item "F" be removed from the Consent Calendar for
separate consideration, Councilman Yost requested Item "G"
removed, and the City Clerk requested that Item "C" be
removed. Doane moved, second by Campbell, to approve the
order of the agenda as revised.
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AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Councilmember Campbell announced the passing this past week
of College Park East resident Dorothy Whyte. Councilmember
Campbell stated that while she and Ms. Whyte differed on
issues Ms. Whyte cared deeply about the City, she was the
leading force behind the Founders Day Celebration which began
in 1990 with the 75th Anniversary of the City, in the 1990's
she served as a Parks and Recreation Commissioner
representing College Park East, and about the same time she
and Ms. Whyte founded the College Park East Neighborhood
Association, she was selected as Seal Beach Woman of the Year
in 1993, and requested that this meeting be adjourned in her
memory. Councilman Doane mentioned that a memorial service
will be held for Dorothy Whyte at Forest Lawn in Cypress on
Tuesday. He too recalled the early 1990's when Ms. Whyte was
actively involved in the community, a specific example was
when the City was required to redistrict based upon the 1990
census, there were a number of suggestions to accomplish that
task, each member of the Blue Ribbon Redistricting Committee
submitted proposals for consideration however it was the plan
submitted by Ms. Whyte that was accepted which moved the
townhouses in the area of the tennis facility into the
College Park East district, it moved Leisure World Mutual Two
from the Hill district and placed it in District Five, evened
up District Two, and the Plan was so good that after the 2000
census it was not necessary for the Council to redistrict.
Councilman Doane said he and Dorothy Whyte did not always
agree yet remained friends. Councilman Doane referred to a
letter from the California Boating Safety Officers
Association to the City Manager that announced the recent
election of Steve Cushman to the Association Board of
Directors during their thirtieth annual conference as the
Southern Regional Director, the letter notes that the
Association has over three hundred members representing over
one hundred California agencies, the letter further states
that the election of Lifeguard Chief Cushman speaks well of
the respect he has with his peers and reflects well upon the
Seal Beach Lifeguards. Councilman Doane offered
congratulations to Chief Cushman. Councilman Antos noted
that he had worked with Dorothy Whyte in a number of ways and
expressed sorrow at her passing, mentioned also the passing
of Mr. Jack Osteen, the former Recreation Department Director
for many years, and Ms. Barbara Antoci, former Seal Beach
resident that had been involved in recycling and other
issues. Mayor Larson noted that he had attended a funeral
service this day for Mr. Larry Hughes, one of the founders of
the submarine shrine at the Weapons Station, and mentioned
that he alternates attendance at Memorial Day services
between the Submarine Shrine and Eisenhower Park, both very
impressive services. Councilman Yost conveyed peace to Ms.
Whyte. Mayor Larson concurred with the adjournment of this
meeting in memory of those mentioned.
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PRESENTATION
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BLUE RIBBON WEEK
Mayor Larson read in full the Proclamation of "Blue Ribbon
Week," May 11th through the 17th, 2003. Chief Sellers
invited attending officers to join him at the podium with
Mayor Larson presenting the Proclamation. The Chief
expressed appreciation for the Council recognition of the
police officers in Seal Beach and across the Nation during
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National Peace Officers Memorial Week. Chief Sellers noted
that there are more than three quarters of a million peace
officers across the united States, an average of more than
sixty-two thousand are assaulted every year with twenty-three
thousand injuries, in terms of death there is an officer
killed every fifty-three hours, the greatest loss in a single
day being the act of terrorism in New York on September 11th,
2001, crime fighting does take its toll, since the first
recorded death in 1792 there have been more than fifteen
thousand officers killed in the line of duty that are thought
of by their families and communities that they served, Seal
Beach too lost Officer Ed Clavell on August 23, 1988 while
working traffic on Westminster Avenue, remembered every day.
Chief Sellers again expressed appreciation on behalf of all
personnel of the Police Department for the Proclamation of
recognition.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Larson declared Public Comments to be open. Mr. Stan
Anderson, Seal Beach, announced that a ceremony will be held
at Eisenhower Park on Memorial Day at 11:00 a.m. to honor
Paul Swaggart, a former citizen of Seal Beach with whom he
grew up, who passed away during the Vietnam conflict. Mr.
Anderson noted the mention of the Blue Ribbon Committee, said
during the time he ran for City Council he realized that
there are many citizens that have skills and can aid in the
making of decisions, for the most part reliance is on City
staff however at times it is good to receive outside comments
and suggestions. Mr. Anderson stated that while attending
meetings of the Council over the years he often becomes upset
at listening to the abuse that is thrown out which becomes
personal, to that he would like to state that he appreciates
the Council who take time and volunteer time to basically be
a watchdog for the citizens of Seal Beach, from his
experiences any time he has had an issue or question he has
been able to call the City Manager or staff or members of the
Council, they have always returned the calls, they also know
that he is not an abusive person who points fingers, he
merely wants to know the right thing to do. Mr. Anderson
said listening to public comments over the last few months
upsets him, the Council and staff have to take the abuse
without being able to react, he would hope that some type of
action could be taken by the Council to eliminate the
personal attacks by those addressing the Council, it is
alright to state the facts, ask questions, yet to be abusive
is offensive to him and others that are watching from home,
possibly some of the speakers should take the time to discuss
issues with staff or the Council to find out what needs to be
addressed, do their homework before coming to Council and
making this a stage which it is not, this is an important
part of doing business, the Council and staff welcome
questions and suggestions but they should not be personal
attacks and abusive, personally he may not always agree with
the responses but it is important to gather the facts, it is
known that the Council cares about the community of Seal
Beach and it is important that the citizens work with the
Council and staff, not against. Mayor Larson expressed
appreciation for the efforts of Mr. Anderson in accomplishing
the Paul Swaggart memorial, and noted the flying of the MIA
flag. Mr. Chi Kredell, Seal Way, made reference to a
desalting plant planned by Long Beach, and inquired if Long
Beach has an environmental report that addresses how that
plant will affect the San Gabriel River. He noted that a
desalting plant was planned for the area of Scanlans Bay in
Mexico, for about two years environmentalists from throughout
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the world came together and convinced the Mexican government
that there would be adverse impacts from building that plant.
He offered that he would be in favor of a desalting plant
provided it would not affect the environment and change the
ecosystem of the ocean, his feeling was that Seal Beach
should check on this proposal in that the River deposits do
not go to Long Beach. with regard to the annual sand berm,
Mr. Kredell noted that it is now up for seven months and down
for five months of the year, this year it was extended which
likely made some of the Seal Way residents angry as well as
affected business in that it is usually lowered by Easter
week, to his recollection he does not remember a March or
April storm. Mr. Kredell also mentioned that there is an
area along Seal Way that is likely the longest park strip in
the City that is maintained by the residents, the City does
nothing, the residents pay for an arborist to trim the trees,
they put in their own sprinkler system, they maintain the
grass, the Navy recently asked if they could use part of that
City land where there is lawn and trees, it is understood
they are going to remove the trees next to the fence and move
it back eight feet, a meeting was held between the City and
Navy where the City decided to give them the eight feet of
City land without consulting the residents, then there was a
meeting between the City and Navy where the residents were
invited to offer their thoughts, to a question as to whether
this had already been determined the answer was that it had,
therefore why the meeting. Mr. Kredell also stated that
below the oil islands there are huge granite rocks like those
on the Navy jetty, he had suggested possibly using those
rocks to extend the groin, the number one choice was for
Moffatt & Nichol to extend a small breakwater, however there
are the rocks from the old bridge that had gone to Surfside
and consideration should be given to using those to stop the
erosion of the beach. Ms. Joyce Parque, Seal Beach,
mentioned the reference to the former resident that lost his
life in the Vietnam War, to that she said everyone had
friends and relatives in the Gulf War, now there have been
military die to allow the Iraqi's to speak. Ms. parque said
she now knows what the Brown Act is, what the Fourth and
First Amendments are and what the equal protection clause is,
thanks to the City Council, she now knows about the budget
which it is learned is just a working budget therefore she
has a request for certified budgets, and she is beginning to
understand the Redevelopment Agency. Ms. Parque said she has
received the invoices for checks for Seal Beach Associates,
that is the Trailer Park lawsuit by Richard Hall, yet they
make no sense because it is the City suing individual people
that are taxpayers, that is wrong, there must be someone in
the City, possibly a retired attorney, whereby there could be
some arbitration, the City Attorney is suing people,
taxpayers, so she has requested information as to how he was
paid for the Seal Beach Associates case. She claimed that
the Attorney has made $325,584 in three months, at ninety
days each taxpayer is paying $3,617 per day, he is standing
up to the taxpayers yet did nothing for the people in the
Trailer Park when it came time to stand up to Richard Hall,
or to Ruby's, also, at some point the money paid to a Los
Angeles attorney to represent the former member of the
Council needs to be paid back, she has also requested a copy
of the $1 million check from the Redevelopment Agency as well
as the $668,000 fine for the low income housing monies, there
was payment too for the consultant that addressed dissolving
the Agency, the Agency has buried the City in such a big hole
it may not be possible to ever close it down, it has been
said that the City is no longer subject to the housing
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penalty, but the penalty was set up in 2001 and the way it is
being paid is $180,000 per year, that is true because she
requested copies of the money being forwarded to Linc, last
year it was $487,376, that is unbelievable. Ms. Sue Corbin,
Seal Beach, said a prior speaker would like the public to be
quiet so the Council, legal counsel, and staff could continue
as usual, if there was not a fiscal problem people would
likely not want to be here, the City is not being run
properly, operated by threats and intimidation, the Council
may have come to serve the residents but were then subverted
to serving developers, their agents, and others, no one would
come to try to change a system that has been corrupt for
seventy-five years unless they dearly cared about this town,
the people all have a right to speak. She claimed the letter
written about Councilman Yost was the result of intimidation,
someone filed a criminal charge to which a threatening call
was made. She charged that the reserves have been used by
several million dollars, the City is in a terrible strait,
there is no honesty with the citizens, referred to the
Council as little people who act in little ways, they are to
serve the residents and the City, once the power is gone
their phone will not ring. She asked the Council to not
betray the trust of the people, the Brown Act is being
violated, illegal meetings are held, there are no minutes of
the closed sessions like the Brown Act requires, there are
exparte communications, the duty of the Council to act
properly for the citizens and City should prevail, do not
serve another master. Mr. Joe Ribal, Seal Way resident most
of the time since 1959, made reference to the concern
expressed with regard to the berm, this issue has always been
of interest in that it was felt that for a number years there
was a level of rapport established with Moffat & Nichol,
there was always a question of where to put the berm, how
high should it be, when should it go up and come down, in the
final analysis that is basically guesswork, some years it has
been wrong, there appears to be some concern that there was
not a sharing of information from the people who are being
relied upon to make the judgment call as to when to take it
down. He claimed that Surf line is an important source of
information, when he called to find out why the berm had not.
come down earlier he was told that someone had discovered
that buoys in the ocean were suggesting that there might be a
high surf, while some were complaining it is thought that
possibly the problem could have been resolved by sharing the
information rather than having a lifeguard report what had
rather secretly been revealed about the conditions, no one
wants to endanger property. He said the other issue with the
berm deals with its placement, over the years he has had the
opportunity to talk with the engineering staff at Moffat &
Nichol, the question is the placement, not only when, that
seems to be something that has pretty much been ignored. Mr.
Ribal stated that this past week he had the opportunity to
take pictures of people on the beach with specific reference
to children building sand castles and how quickly they wash
away, his feeling is that the berm has most likely been built
in the wrong place, it should not be in the surfline, he also
showed a picture of the bulldozer pushing the sand into the
water while taking the berm down, why would one push the sand
into the water, washing away, therefore losing the capacity
of retaining it, basically not to be recovered, also a former
employee of Moffat & Nichol agreed that there should be more
study given to the location of the berm, building it at a
lower height and further away from the surfline. Mr. Ribal
mentioned that there have been comments made by residents of
the area that they did not want the berm near their houses
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yet if one looks at Surfside and Sunset Beach the berms are
close to the homes and without any obstruction of view, in
addition the sand goes nowhere and ultimately protects the
beach. With regard to the proposed ten month moratorium on
home improvements, Mr. Ribal stated that is contrary to the
work of the citizens committee that dealt with various
proposals for protecting homes in the event of disasters.
There being no further comments, Mayor Larson declared Public
Comments to be closed.
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CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "B" thru "G"
Doane moved, second by Antos, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented, except
for Items "c, F, and G", removed for separate consideration.
B. Approved the waiver of reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that
consent to the waiver of reading shall be
deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
after the reading of the title unless
specific request is made at that time for
the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
D. Approved regular demands numbered 41764
through 41975 in the amount of $900,095.00,
ADP payroll demands numbered 3315738 through
3315819 in the amount of $89,433.95, and
authorized warrants to be drawn on the
Treasury for same.
E.
Adopted Resolution Number 5127 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFONRIA, INITIATING
PROCEEDINGS FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY AND
COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN, AND ORDERING
THE PRREPARATION OF AN ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR
STREET LIGHTING DISTRICT NO.1;"
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Adopted Resolution Number 5128 entitled "A
RESOLUTIION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE
ENGINEER'S REPORT IN CONNECTION WITH THE
ANNUAL LEVY AND COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS
WITHIN STREET LIGHTING DISTRICT NO.1;" and
Adopted Resolution Number 5129 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DECLARING ITS
INTENTION TO PROVIDE FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY
AND COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN STREET
LIGHTING DISTRICT NO.1, AND SETTING A TIME
AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THEREON."
By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolutions numbered 5127, 5128, and 5129
was waived.
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AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "C" - APPROVAL OF MINUTES I
Councilman Yost noted that he had been absent from the April
28th meetings therefore would abstain from voting on the
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approval. Campbell moved, second by Antos, to approve
the minutes of the April 28th regular adjourned and regular
meetings.
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NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson
None
Yost Motion carried
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ITEM "F" - STATE ROUTE 22 / WEST ORANGE ORANGE COUNTY
CONNECTION - FINAL EIR/EIS - COMMENT LETTERS
The City Manager advised that this item is a letter in
response to the Final Environmental Impact Report/
Environmental Impact Statement on the 22 Freeway project, one
issue worth noting is that Cal Trans will no longer be
acquiring the six homes in College Park East, that through
the work of the City's engineering staff with CalTrans to
redesign the roadway. Councilmember Campbell stated that the
staff report and letter were excellent however she wanted to
read some of the items into the record. She referenced
specifically the section relating to Areas of Remaining
Concern regarding the "(Enhanced) Reduced Build Alternative"
of the FEIR/EIS, which states that 'the documents do not
indicate how the interested public may be involved with that
Record of Decision issuance process, please provide the
appropriate public participation information regarding this
issue to the City of Seal Beach City Manager, John Bahorski,
the City may still wish to address concerns not addressed in
the FEIR/EIS or the draft ROD based on the concerns and
comments below.' with regard to the Project Funding/ Phasing
section the last sentence of Response 98 states "note right-
of-way impacts could still change between approval of the
FEIR/EIS and approval of final design,", the letter states
that 'this language indicates that the ultimate
determinations regarding property acquisitions is still in
flux, this is most disconcerting, to say the least, it seems
as though there is still the potential for property
acquisitions along the entire project route to change during
the "final design" stage, this again raises substantial
concerns to the City of Seal Beach as to potential impacts
within our community, the City requests a clear statement
from CalTrans and OCTA that if future property acquisitions
are again contemplated within Seal Beach, even though those
potential property acquisitions were previously disclosed,
discussed and evaluated in the DEIR/EIS on this project, that
a new environmental evaluation will be conducted on those
contemplated property acquisitions, this is a substantial
issue to the City Council, staff and property owners along
the I-405/SR-22/I-605 corridors of this project, without that
commitment from CalTrans and OCTA, the City will continue to
strongly and vigorously oppose the potential to re-instate
property acquisitions within Seal Beach.' Under the section
entitled Ability of City to Review and Comment upon certain
Mitigation Measures proposed in the FEIR/EIS, subsection NOI-
(E)RB-9, Councilmember Campbell read the comment that 'the
City would request that a community meeting be held in Seal
Beach relative to the planned project noise impacts at the
Valley View western limit of the currently contemplated
project prior to the initiation of any construction
activities from Valley view easterly, including construction
of Noise Barrier 3, the City would require community meetings
to be held in Seal Beach prior to any construction activities
related to the contemplated improvements from the I-405/SR-
22/valley View interchange westerly to the end of the project
at I-605 and Katella Avenue, including the construction of
NB-R-l adjacent to the Rossmoor community.' Councilmember
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Campbell explained that she read the comments for the record
as they are extremely important, in the future these are the
things that one must be alert for, a concern is that when
they start this widening project it will begin at the 22
Freeway, it could take as much as ten years to reach this
area of the Freeway, the residents at that time will need to
know what legal rights they have. Campbell moved, second by
Yost, to authorize the Mayor to sign the comment letters on
behalf of the City, receive and file the staff report, and
instruct staff to forward copies of the letter to the
Planning Commission and Environmental Quality Control Board
for their information.
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NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
ITEM "G" - PROCLAMATION - SEAL BEACH HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Councilman Yost praised the Seal Beach Historical and
Cultural Society for preserving the past of this community,
the Red Car houses interesting displays of Seal Beach
history, and invited persons to possibly volunteer their
services to the Society. Councilman Yost moved to declare
November 2003 as "Seal Beach Historical and Cultural Society
Month" and August 27th as "Red Car Day" for the next fifty
years. Councilmember Campbell seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
ITEMS I'B'1 and I'I"
It is noted that Item "H", the appeal of Planning Commission
decision for General Plan Conformity on Brightwater Water
Transmission Project" and Item "I", the Trees for Seal Beach
request for a non-standard encroachment permit to construct
tree islands at the 300 block of Main Street crosswalk at
grade, were held over at the request of the appellant and
proponent.
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PUBLIC HEARING - ORDINANCE NUMBER 1502 - EXTENDING ORDINANCE
1498 - MORATORIUM - NONCONFORMING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES
Mayor Larson declared the public hearing open to consider
extending Interim Ordinance Number 1498 which placed a
moratorium on the expansion and addition to legal,
nonconforming residential structures. The Assistant Planner
reiterated the purpose of this public hearing, explained that
on April 14th the Council adopted Ordinance Number 1498 that
is valid for a forty-five day period, pursuant to State law
that Ordinance can be extended for a maximum period of ten
months and fifteen days upon receiving a report which has
been provided the Council in the form of a staff report. The
Assistant noted that the Planning Commission had held two
study sessions on this matter prior to the Council action on
April 14th, the Commission recommendation was that the
Council adopt the interim ordinance, at their last meeting
the Commission again reiterated their desire to extend the
interim Ordinance and to prepare the necessary zone text
amendments to remove the provisions for expansion and
additions to legal, nonconforming residential structures from
the Code in entirety, in effect to not allow any expansion or
addition to nonconforming residential structures. It was
confirmed that adoption of the proposed Ordinance merely
extends the interim Ordinance pending the adoption of a zone
text amendment ordinance. With regard to the time
limitation, the City Attorney confirmed that the law provides
for an extension of ten months and fifteen days, that plus
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the forty-five days is a full year, the maximum for this
extension, however there is also provision for an additional
extension of one year. Councilman Antos noted that the
Council recently considered zoning text amendments relating
to retaining walls, etc. and inquired as to the length of
time required to prepare those ZTA's, to that the response of
the Assistant was that it will likely take six to eight weeks
to prepare the background materials to take this item to the
Planning Commission, public hearings could take between two
to four weeks, then schedule for Council consideration, thus
the ten months should be sufficient time. Councilman Antos
expressed his opinion that that is too much time, and based
upon his evaluation of the time frame felt it should be more
like four months rather than ten months. The City Manager
pointed out that although the time period for the Ordinance
is ten months and fifteen days that does not mean that the
preparation and consideration will actually take that long,
once prepared the issue would be brought to the Commission
and Council for consideration, the Ordinance is merely a
maximum time frame.
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Mayor Larson invited members of the audience wishing to speak
to this item to come to the microphone and identify
themselves. Ms. Mitzi Morton, Seal Beach, expressed
displeasure, claiming that on April 14th it was said that the
Council would be considering the zoning amendments not
extending the moratorium, staff should have informed the
Council and public on April 14th that the preparation of the
amendments could not be accomplished by this date. Ms.
Morton complained that she and her husband canceled an
extended vacation as a result of this issue. Ms. Morton
confirmed her support for prohibiting expansions and
additions to legal, nonconforming residential structures.
Mr. Chi Kredell, Seal Way, questioned the length of time of
this moratorium, the moratorium in the 1970's was only thirty
or sixty days, at that time it was agreed that there would
not be conditional use permits for nonconforming property,
since then the regulations have been watered down, he feels
that most people would like to have this in place as soon as
possible, of concern to him is that it was the staff that
recommended the seventeen hundred square foot addition to the
Electric Avenue property. The Mayor noted that all support
resolving the issue as soon as possible yet the framework of
the law is to provide adequate time in case a problem is
encountered during the preparation phase, also pointed out
that those present are in support of no expansions or
additions to nonconforming properties however he is not
convinced that all citizens of the community will support
that when the full impact is known. Mr. Kredell countered
that it was staff that said it would take the ten months,
agreed too that there will be owners of nonconforming units
that will not be happy because they can not extend their
properties further, he would think that those people with
families will be supportive. Mayor Larson explained that the
purpose of the time period in the interim is to bring the
issue to the Planning Commission as quickly as possible,
allow the full impact of the ordinance to be discussed, and
he would assure that there will be people who want to make
small adjustments to their property that will be unhappy, the
reason for the urgency ordinance is to not allow someone to
come in to seek approval for improvements during the period
that amendments are being formulated, i~ the past the law
provided for a ninety day moratorium, cities found that
things could not be completed in that short time frame so the
law was legislatively changed for a longer time frame, he
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would think that the people who want no additions or
expansions would support the moratorium which keeps things
status quo. Mr. Kredell said the people of Old Town are
merely seeking equality with the other districts. Ms. Sue
Corbin, Seal Beach, made critical comments regarding the
impact of Code enforcement on people in the community. Ms.
Corbin asked why this is not being done through the local
coastal plan, how are the citizens going to be protected
against disasters to be able to rebuild to their existing
structure, will that be protected or will they lose that
right. Mr. Joe Ribal, Seal Way, said he was not prepared to
discuss the Code enforcement item alluded to, he was unaware
of the consequence but hopefully it was given careful
consideration. Mr. Ribal mentioned that he was the chair of
a group that put in place the changes to the zoning
requirements in terms of allowing people to make relatively
modest increases to the square footage of existing housing,
the purpose was to provide an incentive to bring people back
into the community who were willing to make an investment in
improving and increasing the size of what they were going to
build, at the time there were still small cottages, the idea
was that they needed to become single family houses. Mr.
Ribal questioned what, by definition, is a single family
house, said a local contractor claims that there are streets
on the Hill that have converted garages into two bedrooms or
large family rooms, there are a number of houses outside of
Old Town that were initially single family that have been
converted into two or more dwellings silently, a lot of
construction goes on during weekends. Mr. Ribal asked if the
desire is to put in place something that does not provide for
major destruction, especially on the beachfront. He noted
the prior committee had looked at various issues and
alternatives, as an example, what could be done to increase
parking, there seemed to be consensus that should a
beachfront structure be washed away the best thing to do
would be to elevate the structure and put in under-structure
parking, a thirty foot lot could provide five parking spaces,
the apartment building adjacent to the 10th Street beach lot
an example, in Hawaii a construction loan can not be granted
unless the dwelling is elevated, if this issue takes a year
to conclude there may be lots that are unbuildable, people
may go from a $1.5 million house to a lot worth $l, there
needs to be some planning in the case of disasters. He said
there has not been adequate notice to renters in the City,
six or seven thousand people who have an investment in this
community who would likely appreciate the opportunity to add
a second bath, half or quarter bath, this issue needs to get
moving in the direction as to where modest types of
improvements to the quality of the housing does not become a
felony or misdemeanor, in his neighborhood during the past
year two bathrooms have been built in a duplex without
permits, there is considerable work done without permits, the
issue is not something that only happens with the addition of
new units, that represents an appropriate description which
current law does prohibit under certain circumstances. Mr.
Ribal made reference to a booklet entitled Rebuilding the
Dream which does an analysis of large areas of dilapitation,
lack of upkeep, etc., as an example if one drives the alleys
you see things that are awful, in his opinion those kinds of
things are not going to be removed or improved by doing what
is proposed. He said he felt that in 1985, when there were
some that were anti to any improvement, that the solution had
been found, an opportunity for modest increases, that was an
era of moderation and trying to find incentives to upgrade
existing property without tearing them down and building
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expensive homes, he does not think that can be done anyway
because pursuant to State law as proposed in the framework of
the Ordinance it is to be brought to the attention of the
people in the community. Mr. Ribal mentioned having taken
the liberty to send the forty-five day moratorium Ordinance
to the Apartment Association of Orange County, there was no
response, he believes they are only interested in promoting
large scale apartments therefore others are not being
properly served by this group. Mr. Ribal agreed with the
Mayor that this is a big issue and requires that people be
fully informed, make it known what they can do to make a
greater investment in the quality of housing and making it
affordable, his feeling is that this is a duty of the Council
to take into consideration the very simple objective to
improve existing housing, not bulldozing houses and put in
less housing, there are different constituencies present at
this time, this is not just housing it is different kinds of
people with different economic capacities to find a place to
enjoy and be a contributor to the nature of the community.
His feeling was that what was done a number of years ago was
a good step forward yet there are now all of these exceptions
from either the Commission or Councilor obtaining permits
without even going before the Commission, many times it is
not what is built but who builds it and for whom. Mr. Warren
Morton, Seal Beach, stated his support for stopping additions
and expansions to nonconforming properties, displayed a stack
of papers presumed to be petitions directed to the Planning
Commission, and suggested that the time frame to enact
amendments be cut to about four weeks. There being no
further comments, Mayor Larson declared the public hearing
closed.
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Councilman Antos explained that the purpose of the original
moratorium was to stop additions to nonconforming properties,
an example was the proposed addition to a property on
Electric, there have been questions raised with regard to
rebuilding in the case of a disaster, there are existing
sections of the Code that provide that if a property is
destroyed less than fifty percent one can rebuild, this issue
is about additions to nonconforming buildings, not interior
remodeling, this is about adding square footage. Councilman
Antos spoke in support of adoption of the proposed Ordinance
in order to continue the moratorium however with direction to
staff to do their research as quickly as possible so that
this matter can be presented to the Planning Commission in as
timely a manner as possible for public hearings. Councilman
Yost said to him the greatest problem with legal
nonconforming are those that are nonconforming due to parking
and increasing square footage increases the density which
worsens the living conditions in Old Town.
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Yost moved, second by Antos, to adopt Ordinance Number 1502
entitled "AN INTERIM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
EXTENDING INTERIM ORDINANCE NO. 1498, AN INTERIM ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH ENACTED PURSUANT TO CALIFORNIA
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 65858 PROHIBITING MINOR OR MAJOR
STRUCTURAL ALTERATIONS, ENLARGEMENTS AND EXPANSIONS TO
CERTAIN NONCONFORMING RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND USES DURING
THE PENDENCY OF THE CITY'S REVIEW AND ADOPTION OF RELEVANT
PERMANENT ZONING REGULATIONS AND DECLARING THE URGENCY
THEREOF" the title of which was read in full by the City
Attorney. By unanimous consent, full reading of Ordinance
Number 1502 was waived. Mayor Larson noted that there is
already disagreement between the speakers.
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AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
There was no report presented.
CITY MANAGER
There was no report presented.
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Yost reported that he was recently made aware that
an entity has bought the Seal Beach Center, and announced
that he will be arranging some community meetings relating
thereto with some of the neighbors to hear what they would
like to see.
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ADJOURNMENT
By action of the City Council on April 28th, the regular
meeting scheduled for May 27th was canceled. It was the
order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to direct
that the May 27th meeting be adjourned to June 9th at 6:30
p.m. By unanimous consent, the meeting was adjourned at 8:24
p.m. ~
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Attest:
Seal Beach, California
May 26/27, 2003
By action of the City Council on April 28th, the regular
meeting scheduled for May 27th was canceled and adjourned to
June 9th at 6:30 p.m.
clerk
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