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CLOSED SESSION
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting until August 11th at 6:30 p.m. to meet
in Closed Session if necessary. By unanimous consent, the
meeting was adjourned at 11:23 p.m.
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Seal Beach, California
August II, 2003
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:30 p.m. with Mayor Campbell calling
the meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Campbell
Councilmembers Antos, Doane, Larson
Absent:
Councilmember Yost
Councilmember Yost arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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The City Attorney announced that this would be the time for
any member of the public to speak to the two items identified
on the agenda. In response to a public objection to the
Council meeting in Closed Session at this time it was
explained that this is an adjourned meeting from the last
regular meeting, the regular Council meeting does not
commence until 7:00 p.m.
CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the Council would meet in
Closed Session to discuss the items identified on the agenda,
to confer with legal counsel with regard to anticipated
litigation pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(b),
and to confer with the City's labor negotiator with regard to
the Management/Mid Management Employees and Supervisors and
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Professional Association Safety Units pursuant to Government
Code 54957.6. The Council adjourned to Closed Session at
6:33 p.m. and reconvened at 7:10 p.m. with Mayor Campbell
calling the meeting to order. The City Attorney reported
that the Council had discussed the items identified on the
agenda, gave direction to the City's labor negotiator and
City Attorney, no other reportable action was taken.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 7:11 p.m.
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Seal Beach, California
August 11, 2003
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The City Council of the City of
session at 7:11 p.m. with Mayor
to order with the Salute to the
Seal Beach met in regular
Campbell calling the meeting-
Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Campbell
Councilmembers Antos, Doane, Larson, Yost
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mr. Dancs, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Ms. Arends-King, Director of Administrative
Services
Mr. Cummins, Associate Planner
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilman Yost requested that Item "G" be removed from the
Consent Calendar for separate consideration, and a member of
the audience requested Item "F" removed. Mayor Campb~ll
stated that anyone wishing to speak to those items should do
so under the Public Comment periOd. With no indicatibn of
objection, the order of the agenda was approved as revised.
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mayor Campbell announced that a notice has been received from
the Joint Forces Training Base officials that Arbor Park will
be closed at sundown on Thursday, August 13th and reopened at
sunrise, Saturday, August 16th, to accommodate Air Force One
at the Base. Mayor Campbell requested a show of hands as to
those persons present wishing to speak to the dogs in Arbor
Park issue as well as the number of persons who read the news
article in the local papers with regard to same which was
meant to convey the issues. She mentioned that she had
comments to that issue however they were basically covered by
the news article.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Campbell declared the public comment period to be open.
Mr. Jerry Dominguez, Region Manager for Southern California
Edison Company, said he wished to address certain things that
have happened over the past several weeks, there were
comments made at the last meeting to which he has received
telephone calls, and if there are questions he can be reached
by telephone. Mr. Dominguez said this in regard to the
undergrounding of electric utility lines along Westminster
Boulevard in conjunction with the Boeing project, there was
considerable information that was disseminated in the news,
comments made, and misconceptions which he wished to clarify.
Mr. Dominguez stated that the only reason for under grounding
utility lines is for aesthetics, appearances, there is no
benefit to having utility lines buried underground, logic
would dictate that if there is a problem with an overhead
electric line, a break or fault as examples, it can be
detected, found, and repaired rather simply, if buried in the
ground one must first find the problem and then make the
repairs, to the concept that putting electric utility lines
is not inconvenient that is not correct, it is inconvenient,
it has to do with maintenance and repairs of facilities. He
noted that there was comment made that Southern California
Edison does not underground these sixty-six thousand volt
lines, that too is not correct, they can be undergrounded, it
is very expensive, requires a five foot clearance from any
other objects buried under the ground, repairs and
maintenance also part of the problem, therefore the comments
that it is a simple project and that it is not a costly
project is incorrect. Mr. Dominguez mentioned that before
estimates are done on such projects the engineering fees are
paid up front by the developer or the agency that is
requesting or requiring information for undergrounding
utility lines, until those engineering fees are actually paid
and the estimates are done there is not an accurate cost, the
Edison Company generally takes a neutral position in these
issues because there are converging views on whether it is a
good or simple idea, who is going to pay for the
undergrounding, who is going to provide the necessary
easements to place these facilities underground, it is a
fairly complicated process. Mr. Dominguez confirmed that he
is the spokesperson for the Company, or the service planner
that is authorized to provide the work, other people may not
or should not speak for him or the Edison Company, the
conversations that he has had with regard to this issue have
been very low key and informal, there has been nothing formal
with regard to this process, no estimates done, no request to
have that specifically done, but in the discussions with the
company representing Boeing and a couple of City staff they
were advised of the pros and cons with regard to this issue,
that it is conceivable that these facilities could be placed
provided there are proper easements and someone is willing to
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pay the cost which could be extensive.
Mr. Joe Sova, past regional commissioner for the American
Youth Soccer Organization, expressed appreciation for the
relationship that there has been in Seal Beach for providing
the largest single sports program in this community, the five
year relationship has provided great things for the
community, an outlet for children to flourish, has improved a
public site for all sports groups in the City to use, and
along with the improvements has brought an economic boom in
that the Section playoffs, the Ken Astin Cup, has been held
for two years in the area, people come from allover this
region, eat in the restaurants, stay at the hotels, buy gas,
use the convenience stores, and hopefully come back to
vacation in the community. Mr. Sova offered that AYSO has
helped with maintenance to improve the Park with the
assistance of Mayor Campbell and Mr. Eagle, this has brought
attention to the Park now that it is clean and utilized, AYSO
provides safe and fair fun for children, part of that is not
allowing dogs in the area because it becomes a safety and
health issue, most sports facilities are run that way. He
thanked the City for the opportunity to help create this Park
and atmosphere of safe, fair fun for all in this community,
this partnership has brought three major pluses, improvement
of the facility, an economic boom, and a fantastic future for
the children, there are seven to eight hundred families in
this community that are enjoying this Park through the
efforts of the City, their insurance does not cover co-
existence, AYSO would like to keep this Park for the children
so that they and their families can use it without needing to
have volunteers clean up before the Park can be used. Mr.
Bob Labradour, a Senior Director on the Board that manages
the AYSO that serves the communities of Seal Beach, Los
Alamitos, and Rossmoor, a fifteen year former resident of
Seal Beach, continues to be an owner of income property in
the community, since moving to Rossmoor in 1991 he has been
involved with AYSO, well ingrained in the communities served
by the AYSO. On behalf of the AYSO Mr. Labradour thanked the
Council for taking into consideration the proposal presented
to Seal Beach regarding a mutually beneficial contractual
relationship with regard to the AYSO continued use of Arbor
Park as a primary site for soccer practices and games for the
next five years, if the City obliges their proposal and votes
to approve the schedule the AYSO will tender an immediate
payment of $5,000 followed by two additional payments to be
remitted before the end of this year for a grand total
donation to the City of $12,000 which represents AYSO's good
faith commitment to help defray a portion of the annual
maintenance costs incurred by Seal Beach in its efforts to
keep Arbor Park a pleasant and safe public asset. Mr.
Labradour mentioned that in the past five years AYSO has
donated thousands of dollars annually to help the City pay
for regular maintenance, in the immediate past twelve months
they have invested $12,000 to correct irrigation problems to
maintain proper watering of the Park, they have and will
continue to maintain portable toilet facilities for the
benefit of the public. Mr. Stanley Smalewitz, Guava Avenue,
said as a parent of an AYSO soccer player, Seal Beach Kids
Baseball player, and a dog owner, he objects to using Arbor
Park as a soccer park and not joint use, there should have
been a citizens committee similar to that which considered
the tennis club use to formulate alternative uses. As a
board member of Kids Baseball he knows of their lack of
facilities, lack of ability of places to play, difficplty
with practice times because of other activities at Arpor
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Park, it is known that AYSO does a lot for kids as does Kids
Baseball and the dog owners meeting there likewise has a
community function, all of these things are part of the
community, this is not a soccer or dog situation, it is a
community situation. He proposed that the Mayor should have
come to the Park and talked to the people who use it as a dog
park, he has never seen a staff report or heard discussion of
this AYSO lease until now, that is not the way things are
done here, there should have been discussion of some
alternative uses and a coordinated plan that would work for a
majority of the community, a compromise. Mr. Smalewitz
suggested that an effort be made to look at all of the needs,
AYSO does good things for kids, they also have more
facilities and the ability to have their activities within
the Rossmoor and Los Alamitos communities, Seal Beach
Baseball does not, kids baseball has three fields, they
invested considerable money at McGaugh this year, they too
hosted a tournament, he never knew that kids activities were
about economic development. He offered that if the Council
would like a proposal Arbor Park could be turned into the Los
Alamitos ballfield, host tournaments too to bring in dollars,
that should not be the issue, it should be what is good for
the community and good for the kids, look at this further, do
a little more study, do not rush into this, once it is done
it can not be undone. He has talked to other Kids Baseball
board members, they are willing to submit proposals, do fund
raising to improve the Park, they never thought they had an
opportunity to do that, they did not know they had that
opportunity because it was never brought up until this issue
came forth through the press, do not act on this agreement,
let the community come up with something that works for most.
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Mr. Michael Heltzik, Hazelnut Avenue, said many of his
neighbors, like himself, are frustrated with the failure of
the Council to solicit input from the community on the use of
Arbor Park, at this meeting the Mayor did not offer comments
to make her point of view clear, he would request that those
comments be heard after the public session, the fact is that
the only information that they have ever gotten about the
plans for this Park was in the nature of a series of fait
accompli, that the City was entering negotiations, in
negotiations, in discussions for a lease with AYSO, AYSO
needs a lease to make improvements to the Park, some
attendees found out for the first time tonight that this item
was on the Consent Calendar. This leaves some with obvious
questions, is the lease with the federal government final,
some news articles quoted the Base commander as saying it was
not final, what are the understandings between the City and
AYSO as.to the extent of permitted development that AYSO will
do in the Park and where, if there is an understanding what
effort did this Council make to solicit public input, was
there a public hearing, if not why not, and as a dog owner
who uses the Park frequently neither he or his wife have seen
the Mayor on those premises. The jurisdiction of the Park
too has never been established, some of his neighbors were
cited in the Park, the citations were thrown out of court
because there was no clear jurisdiction or notice. Mr.
Heltzik said they would like this removed from the agenda,
placed on a future agenda so that some type of sensible plan
can be developed for the use of Arbor Park, it is understood
that Los Alamitos also has this subject on their agenda with
some mystification as to what Seal Beach is doing and why so
hastily, it is understood too that the Los Alamitos Manager
has been in touch with the Seal Beach Manager with questions
about the AYSO arrangement, he would like to know what reply
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was given. Mr. Heltzik requested that enforcement of the dog
regulation Ordinance at Arbor Park, while there is no
organized sporting activity going on, be suspended until this
matter is resolved, remove the AYSO agreement from the agenda
and postpone it until a future agenda to allow for community
input and discussion as to how the Park should be used by the
entire community, and since this Council is proposing to
enter into a contract with AYSO, the Mayor and members of the
Council should disclose their relationship with AYSO whether
it be board members, officers, volunteers, parents or
relatives of children that play.
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Ms. Debra Malschick, Guava Avenue, said she was present in
support of finding a solution to the dogs in the park
dilemma, there is a need to create ways that the whole
community can use the Park, not primarily families who have
children involved in community athletics, her children
participated in AYSO, baseball, and each played high school
sports, as parents they were active in the process, in
addition to the benefits of the sport the activities
connected them socially to the community, the ability to use
the Park facilities to exercise her dog has also resulted in
a nice social connection in the community. Ms. Malschick
offered that the needs of the population that may not be in
the child bearing years must be addressed, there is a large
group of citizens in the community that have dogs and would
like to be able to exercise them and meet with others doing
the same, this is a responsible group of citizens who care
about the conditions of Arbor Park, the sole purpose of
coming to the Park is not for their dogs to relieve
themselves, if that were true they could merely walk their
dogs on the street, she and her friends clean up after the
irresponsible minority of people who do not clean up after
their dogs, they go out of their way to inform newcomers of
the necessity to clean up after their animals and keep them
under control, they warn people to not use the Park when
there are youth sporting activities underway, she has gone so
far as placing nasty notes on the windshields of those who do
not clean up. She claimed for many years she ran in the
park, she did not have a concern with stepping in dog dirt
rather with turning her ankle in a gopher hole, or slipping
on the excrement from the shore birds, skunks, opossums,
etc., those are hazards and unsanitary, there is also trash
discarded throughout the Park, even to dirty diapers, there
have been occasions of seeing what appears to be people doing
illicit drugs or drinking in the park, when someone arrives
with a dog they leave, the dog people are a deterrent to
those who are looking for a place to be alone and not
observed. Ms. Malschick offered that the Park is not in use
for most of the day, suggested that certain hours be set
aside early in the day and a half hour between sunset and
dark when the Park could be open for dogs, why not water the
field for a short time in the morning after the dogs leave,
this would rinse the ground and be dry by the time children
come to play, why not provide bag dispensers, possibly a
local market would donate them, why not post a sign warning
of a large fine for those who do not pick up after their
pets, she would be happy to provide names and times of those
individuals, why not give citizen Park marshals the right to
issue citations , why not create a yearly fee to use the Park
and collect it through the Recreation Department, this money
could be used for whatever is necessary because the dog
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people are there, their group is willing to help, wh~ not a
trial period of possibly a year, they deserve to be able to
use the City facilities as much as anyone, the dog people are
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neighbors and taxpayers.
Mr. Jim St. Om Eroy, Director of Players and Coaches for
AYSO, stated that they are not trying to create a situation
of AYSO or sports programs versus dogs, his belief is that
there is an area that could accommodate a dog park, the only
complaint of AYSO is with those who do not want to abide by
the rules, let their dogs run so it is necessary to clean the
field before games and practice, he would like to find a way
that they could coexist, one concern however is dog bites
when people do not keep their animals under control. He
noted that there are seven hundred children in AYSO from Seal
Beach itself, there are about two thousand children in the
community, AYSO wants to share fields with other sporting
groups yet they are a very large organization, they have also
contributed funds towards maintaining and keeping the fields
up. Mr. St. Om Eroy said again that they would like to find
a way to coexist, they do not want AYSO versus the dog park,
however they do not want to deal with dogs running allover
the fields and having to clean up after them. Mr. Glen
Rabenn, Fir Avenue, a more than twenty year resident, one of
the dog people. Mr. Rabenn said he would like to limit his
comments to the question of timing, he appreciates the
position of the prior speaker, his belief is that before the
Council does anything with respect to this contract that
there should be an opportunity for the public to be heard, a
year and a half ago several individuals appeared before the
Council of Los Alamitos when this body requested Los Alamitos
to amend their municipal ordinance to allow Seal Beach to
enforce dog regulations at Arbor Park, at that time the City
of Los Alamitos wrote back to Seal Beach urging that public
hearings be held on that issue, to that he would ask when
those public meetings were held, they were not. Mr. Rabenn
noted that the AYSO contract appears on the Consent Calendar
and it can be seen that there is a substantial public
reaction from people who have as much of a legitimate right
to complain about this as anyone else in the community, he
feels that in many respects the question of the use of Arbor
Park has been framed in an us or them manner, not necessarily
by the dog people and not by the AYSO people because they
want to be part of an overall plan, yet there have been other
people who have been quoted in the media who have said that
parks are for people, not for dogs, that kind of attitude
misses the point entirely, this is about people who have
legitimate interests in using that facility. Mr. Rabenn said
in their research of the question of dog parks it was found
that throughout the Country there are hundreds of communities
who have successfully established and managed dog facilities
harmoniously with other uses, there is no reason why this can
not happen here, the representative from AYSO was heard to
say that they do not need the east two acres of Arbor Park,
that is the primary area where the people take their dogs,
therefore before the contract is approved his belief is that
the determination should be suspended and that public
hearings be held, there should be hearings to devise an
overall plan for Arbor Park, if the contract is entered into
it limits the options that will be available to the City in
planning Arbor park, it has been heard from AYSO that they
are not demanding exclusive use, they are accepting that the
dog owners have an equal right to use the facility, they
should be taken up on that. Mr. Rabenn again urged that no
action be taken, that public hearings be held as to what is
to happen at Arbor Park.
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Mr. Craig Adler, Elder Avenue, noted a reference to the Park
as an active recreation area, from his observance over the
years the AYSO is active at Arbor Park approximately ten
percent of the daylight hours, therefore judging that ninety
percent of time the Park is empty perhaps there could be some
discussion of other activities. As the dog owners have told
him and asked that he speak to, there is no expectation of
using the Park when there are permitted activities taking
place, they stay away yet would like to use the space when it
is not in use and do not want to be cited for it, with regard
to the feces problem Mr. Adler said their group is absolutely
conscientious about picking up after their animals and dogs
that have been there before them, they would welcome the
citing of observed pet owners who do not clean up after their
dogs. With regard to the reference to the picnic area Mr.
Adler stated that there is a water fountain that has not
worked in two years, he has never seen a picnic table,
barbecue pit, or sand volleyball or any other amenities that
were spoken of or promised years ago, he would not consider
that a picnic area. If sports groups that use the Park bring
their animals with them he would ask that they follow the
same rules, walk the field, potty patrols, clean up. Mr.
Adler mentioned that he is not certain if they plan to
install lights in Arbor Park, if so they need to know that
they can not exceed ten feet in what is believed to be a half
mile range because of the Seal Beach vortex, the radar system
that the airplanes use for navigation, the reason the field
is so open is FAA and military regulations. He urged that
this item be placed on the public calendar rather than on
Consent so that it can be discussed openly and work out some
type of compromise solution. Mr. Robert Kelly, resident
since 1967, stated his belief that he has used the Park since
it opened, said one of the reasons that people have taken
their dogs there is because there it very little utilization
of the Park, as an example last evening he was in the Park at
6:00 p.m. and there was no one else in the Park for well over
an hour, also, the last thing he or other people would want
to do is exclude AYSO from the Park, it is a community Park
that should be utilized by the community, that includes older
individuals who like to walk with their dog for exercise, his
belief is that Seal Beach found out a year ago that it did
not have jurisdiction over Arbor Park to issue citations so
the City went behind everyone's back, negotiated a separate
lease without Los Alamitos knowing anything about it and
without any input from the residents as to how they would
like to have their Park used and managed, it is felt it was
done vindictively against the people who utilize the Park.
He too feels that public hearings should be held, make this a
Park that all can enjoy, AYSO has expressed some of their
concerns, yet no one would take their dog in the Park when
there are activities going on, there are also people from out
of the area that use the Park, does that mean that the local
residents will be excluded because of their use. There needs
to be a more defined plan for Arbor Park utilization. Ms.
Sue McDannel stated she is a member of the Walk A Park group
of over fifty responsible dog owners who enjoy exercising and
socializing themselves and their dogs. Ms. McDannel noted
that the Ordinance prohibiting dogs in parks was passed in
the 1960's, that is when she moved to College Park East, at
that time things were much different, there was a lot of open
space, dairy farms on Valley View, strawberry fields on
Katella, lots of children in the neighborhoods, ample! City
budgets to do many things including the free beach bJggy, in
2003 there is virtually no open space, strawberry fields are
gone, there are many fewer children, and the City budget is
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cutting the Police Department budget. To that she asked how
these changes are affecting College Park East, there is no
open space to play catch or frisbee with your dog, it is now
known that dogs and people all need arobic exercise, the
children are grown, moved out, the parents have stayed and
the children are replaced with furry kids, there are fewer
police on the force and it is for certain that they have
better things to do.than chase the people out of Arbor Park,
what is the answer. Ms. McDannel said it is understood the
Council wants to make it a sports park catering to soccer and
baseball teams, the people want a place to play with their
dogs, so as is the case where divergent interests come into
play her feeling is that the answer is compromise, she
understands that AYSO has a condition in their bylaws that
says that no dog shall be on the field when they have
practices or games, one solution that all strongly favor is
establishing dog hours, early in the morning and late in the
evening when no one is using the Park, and if anyone shows up
at those times they should be issued a ticket, the group
strongly supports allowing permitted teams to use Arbor Park
yet also realize that there are many hours where the Park
sits empty, with such limited space and 'budgets her feeling
is that this is not good use of tax dollars. Ms. McDannel
mentioned that the other on-going objection to dogs in the
Park is the health issue, the Walk In The Park group abhors
dog owners who do not pickup after their pets, not only in
the Park but in the neighborhoods or on public property, in
fact they would encourage the Council to adopt an ordinance
to fine a dog owner anywhere in the City who does not pickup
after their dog, the group often finds themselves cleaning up
after dogs that have not been properly trained by their
owners as well as after soccer players and fans, the group
would be agreeable to help enforce the cleanup issue, form
cleanup crews, clean the Park before soccer games. In other
cities such as Long Beach and Huntington Beach they have
compromised and found solutions to these dilemmas, they would
ask that Seal Beach do the same, open minds and a willingness
to work things out.
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Mr. Ray Keiser, representing Island Village Homeowners
Association, said he wished to comment on Item "L", the
Boeing development plan. Mr. Kaiser mentioned that Mr. David
Bates, the President of the Homeowners Association, wrote to
the Seal Beach Planning Commission complaining about the
foreseeable intrusion of noise and traffic to the homes to
the immediate west of the development, Island Village has
about a hundred or so homes, Planning Area 3 would be
immediately east or adjacent to Island Village where proposed
buildings 3, 4, and 5 would border the homes, there is an
expression that high fences make for good neighbors, and to
that Island Village believes that one substantial way that
the Council could mitigate the noise and construction debris
and subsequent intrusion of the development would be to
condition any approval on the erection of a sound barrier
wall and a line of full canopy trees. upon looking at the
staff report it appears that this construction will take a
substantial period of time with no noise limits on the
construction, and upon completion of these three large
buildings next to this collection of homes there will be
industrial business use and the loading docks face westerly
toward the homes. The residents of ISland Village appreciate
the quiet enjoyment of their property, nothing excites people
more than an unchecked barking dog next door or ongoing noise
that disturbs their peace and quiet, and in looking at the
Environmental Impact Report the land that is now vacant will
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have a very intense industrial business use. Mr. Kaiser said
he would like to see the Council show good faith to its
neighbors to the immediate west, if there is consideration
of approving this plan with all of its defects, that at a
minimum require that at the inception of construction some
deference be given the homes immediately adjacent, require
the construction of a fifteen foot wall barrier associated
with a line of canopy trees, this is something that should
not await the completion of the project, as has been
suggested any noise reduction issue should wait until after
completion of construction yet the construction inheritantly
will involve continuous loud noise, dust, and other nuisance
conditions to Island Village, but even after that this should
not wait for the homeowners to come to Seal Beach to complain
about the uses of the property which obviously would be in
conflict with a direct neighbor of a residential community.
Ms. Joyce Parque, Seal Beach, spoke in support of the
approval of the Boeing project, said they pay utility tax,
property tax, employ people, buy and rent in the community,
and spend their money in town. Ms. parque claimed that an
agenda in January of this year reported that the City would
be broke in a couple of years, the excess money will be used,
so Boeing needs to be approved so they can help pay the City
expenses, police and fire services are fifty-four percent of
the budget. For the people in Leisure World who want free
windows she has an answer, the $10,000 grant of free money
through the Redevelopment Agency, both the grant and loan
programs are available to income qualified residents of Seal
Beach and only for housing programs, one thing allowed is
double paned windows. Ms. parque read the qualifying income
numbers for individuals to families. She mentioned also
discussion about a year and half ago of reducing the utility
tax, at the same time there was the electric energy crisis,
from that the City received a windfall of $4.3 million in
utility tax, the utility tax in the City is the highest
income producer of any city. Ms. parque said another thing
is the PERS pay increases which Seal Beach adopted but can
not pay for and has not told the people that there is a $5
million debt to the retirement system, her belief is that
this year the City needs to pay $500,000, this will cost the
taxpayers $10 billion over twenty years, the next thing is
the tripling of the car tax. Ms. parque said when the City
takes the water meter reader and puts that employee in the
Maintenance Department, then contracts out the meter reader,
how is that saving the City money. Mr. Collin Boer, Cypress,
expressed support for the dog owners, opposition to
enforcement of the Municipal Code prohibiting dogs in Arbor
park, it would be more appropriate to enact a scooper law if
the issue is sanitary or hygienic, he can assure that dog
owners who use Arbor Park already have a high compliance rate
should this be enforced, of greater concern to the dog owners
is the closed door decision of Seal Beach to effectively
permit the use of Arbor Park only to groups deemed worthy,
when secret political decisions are made to benefit one
segment of the population at the expense of others it becomes
the duty of the citizens to speak out against such injustices
and demand transparency of the elected officials and the
right to oppose such action. Mr. Boer as a citizen,
homeowner, taxpayer, and dog owner, thanked the Council for
consideration. There being no further comments, Mayor
Campbell declared Public Comments closed.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the cduncil,
to declare a recess at 8:10 p.m. The Council reconvdned at
8:18 p.m. with Mayor Campbell calling the meeting to ~rder.
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CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "A" thru "K"
Doane moved, second by Yost, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented, except
Items "F" and "G", removed for separate consideration.
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Approved the waiver of reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that
consent to the waiver of reading shall be
deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
after the reading of the title unless
specific request is made at that time for
the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
B. Approved regular demands numbered 42961
through 43139 in the amount of $1,027,488.15,
ADP payroll demands numbered 5031160 through
5031292 in the amount of $214,232.94, and
authorized warrants to be drawn on the
Treasury for same.
C. Approved the first amendment to the Ground
Lease for the AT&T Wireless cellular tower
located at 3131 Beverly Manor Road (formerly
Los Angeles Cellular) for the period of five
years with an option to extend the lease for
two additional five year periods.
Adopted Resolution Number 5153 entitled 'A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
SUPPORTING THE TRI-TUNNEL EXPRESS, A JOINT
TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITY CORRIDOR." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 5153 was waived.
E. Adopted Resolution Number 5154 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER
5141 RELATING TO ESTABLISHING THE RATES
AND AMOUNTS OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR GOODS,
SERVICES AND FACILITIES PROVIDED BY THE
CITY OF SEAL BEACH." By unanimous consent,
full reading of Resolution Number 5154 was
waived.
H. Approved and adopted the Orange County
Sanitation District Phase III, Fats, Oils and
Grease study as required by the Regional Water
Quality Control Board Order Number R8-2002-0014,
and authorized the City Manager to execute and
submit funding for Phase III to the Orange
County Sanitation District.
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Adopted Resolution Number 5155 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT
NO. LL-03-01 FOR PARCEL 2 AND SURFSIDE COLONY
ROADWAY ADJACENT TO AND SOUTHWESTERLY OF
PARCEL 2 AS SHOWN ON RECORD OF SURVEY NO. 91-1052,
ORANGE COUNTY RECORDS BOOK 138 PAGE 23."
By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 5155 was waived.
J. Adopted Resolution Number 5156 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH ESTABLISHING A CONTRACTOR's PROJECT
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REPRESENTATIVE RESOLUTION" (City Manager,
Director of Public Works/City Engineer, Deputy
City Engineer). By unanimous consent, full
reading of Resolution Number 5156 was waived.
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K.
Adopted Resolution Number 5157 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND
DELIVERY OF A LEASE WITH OPTION TO PURCHASE
AND AUTHORIZING CERTAIN ACTIONS IN CONNECTION
THEREWITH" (John Deere Backhoe);
and
Adopted Resolution Number 5158 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT NO.
04-07 FOR THE PURCHASE OF JOHN DEERE BACKHOE
THROUGH A LEASE PURCHASE AGREEMENT."
By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 5157 and Resolution Number 5158 was waived.
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AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "F" - ARBOR PARK USE AGREEMENT - AMERICAN YOUTH SOCCER
ORGANIZATION
The City Manager explained that this item is an agreement
with the American Youth Soccer Organization for Arbor Park
field use. With reference to the public comments and
subsequent discussion with the AYSO leadership, the Manager
referred to the map attachment to the staff report, suggested
the possibility that the field be squared off so that the
AYSO field lease can go forward, with that the remaining
trapezoidal open area could potentially, if other options are
not successful, be looked at as a restricted dog park area.
Also in response to the public, the City has been in contact
with the property manager of the West Ed building, a
nonprofit group, who indicated interest in at least receiving
a letter of interest from Seal Beach with regard to fencing
their area off for such use, if the whole of their grassy
area were used it would be 4.67 acres, option two would be a
2.62 acre area, or there could be the 1.26 acre area directly
behind the Arbor Park playing field. The Manager recalled
that a similar issue was dealt with regard to the Spoiled Dog
Society, it was for the City has the property yet there
exists the Ordinance prohibiting dogs in parks adopted in
1968, since then the Ordinance was changed slightly to allow
on-leash dogs on the greenbelt and in Gum Grove Park, from
his reading of the minutes that matter appeared to be
somewhat controversial. The Manager said a solution would be
to have a restricted dog area, with that there would be no
need to change the Ordinance, that would solve the problem
for all residents of Seal Beach, it is not exclusive to
College Park East, it is the Hill and downtown as well given
the previously referred to issue with regard to Zoeter field.
The Manager again suggested that the map be adjusted, move
forward with the AYSO lease, give the residents some
flexibility, and continue to investigate the other areas
outlined, that would seem to balance both sides, reminding
that the intent of the lease is that AYSO wants to make
improvements to the field, the lease was renewed to alleviate
the concern that any capital improvements they make would be
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gone in five or six years. Mayor Campbell mentioned ~hat one
nice feature of Arbor Park is that it is fenced and one does
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not have to worry about their animal going onto Lampson
Avenue, people walk their animals around the West Ed building
yet her fear is with Lampson Avenue given that the area is
not fenced, if one of the areas at West Ed could be obtained
it could be fenced for safety, and if that occurs she would
like to have water, benches, trash receptacles, the dog group
may have additional ideas, however first there must the focus
on the AYSO lease, separate that issue from the dogs. The
Mayor also mentioned that at the time the City distributed
letters of interest to organizations, including Seal Beach
Kids Baseball, the only one to respond was the AYSO.
Councilman Yost mentioned that he has a child that plays
AYSO, another plays Club soccer and does not use AYSO fields,
the AYSO group uses Hopkinson. He inquired if this is an
extension or rewriting of a contract, and what are the
requirements for a public hearing. The City Attorney advised
that there is no State law or local ordinance that requires a
public hearing for this type of agreement. The Manager noted
there is no current contract, the AYSO agreement was
considered by the Recreation and Parks Commission and a
meeting was held with other sporting groups as well.
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Councilman Antos moved to approve the agreement with American
Youth Soccer Organization for use of Arbor Park in exchange
for $12,000 to be used for maintenance purposes only, with
the modification that the trapezoidal section referred to by
the City Manager be held out as well as the other identified
areas and be referred to the Recreation and Parks Commission
for consideration at their regular meeting with
recommendations to be forthcoming to the City Council. The
City Manager stated for the record an amendment to the last
sentence of Section 1-b, Definitions, to delete the language
"a general description of the field areas..." to be replaced
by "A map depicting the fields is attached to this
agreement..." Councilman Antos moved approval once again and
Councilman Yost seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
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Mayor Campbell posed the question as to what started all of
this, it was because AYSO wanted to do some improvements to
the field yet had concerns with doing so where there was only
a few years remaining on the Park lease, during conversations
the problems they were having with dogs was discovered, she
then got calls from some of the people who like to walk in
the park, their concern was with dogs jumping on them, then a
father who was at the Park coaching his sons team called
Animal Control because an off-leash dog wet on the equipment
and clothes. Now there are complaints, yet the Ordinance is
on the books, it has to be enforced. With regard to the
renegotiation of the lease, it was originally signed in 1982,
due to expire in 2007, former Councilman Laszlo and others
worked out the lease arrangement with Base officials, the
City of Seal Beach has a lease with the Department of
Defense, this has never been a City of Los Alamitos park,
Seal Beach developed it and has always maintained it, then
when the issue arose with regard to jurisdiction the lease
was reviewed and found that the City did not have the ability
to enforce its own ordinances in the Park therefore when the
lease was renegotiated that was included, the lease went
before the City Council, no public hearing was required, the
issue that the people have is not with the lease, it is with
the City Ordinance, at the time of the jurisdictional issue
the City could not enforce any of its ordinances in the Park,
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if the City is leasing the area and maintaining it then it
was necessary to have the enforceability. Both the Seal
Beach Naval weapons Station and the Los Alamitos Joint Forces
Training Base are federal properties owned by the Department
of Defense, no city, county, or State has any jurisdiction on
those properties, federal supercedes everything, when the
Marines built something on the Weapons Station they did not
come to the City for permits they went to the Army Corps of
Engineers, the City has no say whatsoever, the same can be
said for the Joint Forces Training Base, Los Alamitos too has
no jurisdiction. The relationship between Seal Beach and the
Joint Forces Training Base is strictly a landlord/tenant
relationship, the City has' signed a lease with the Federal
Government and they have delegated authority to the City to
enforce the City ordinances at Arbor Park, this was not
something that had to be run through Los Alamitos because
they have no authority with regard to the Base, it is federal
property. Mayor Campbell explained that the City Ordinance
under discussion goes back to November 18th, 1968, that was
before College Park East was even built up so it was the
residents of Old Town and the Hill that initiated the
Ordinance, that Ordinance was amended in 2000 to allow dogs
on-leash in Gum Grove Park and on the greenbelt, they are
passive recreation areas, there is no where in this City
where dogs are allowed off-leash, to that there have been a
number of calls from Hill residents because people are not
adhering to that in Gum Grove. Last year a group called the
Spoiled Dog Society tried to persuade the City to allow them
to use Zoeter field in the mornings, the City had to turn
them down, why, it is a health issue. The Walk A Dog group
is good, they pickup and clean up, the ones that do not would
not show their face here, but the Walk A Dog group is taking
the brunt of that, Arbor Park is an active recreation area,
those who do not abide by the rules do not get caught so they
can be cited, it is the same thing as the 4th of July with
fireworks. Mayor Campbell reported that this past week she
and the City Manager met with Colonel John Smith and Troy
Harden of the Training Base to discuss ways of solving this
problem, during that meeting a woman drove up, let her dogs
out, the dogs relieved themselves and the woman just stood
and watched, when she asked her to clean up after her dogs
she became angry, people break the law when they think no one
is watching, that is human nature, it is realized that laws
are broken but that does not make it right, again, the issue
is not with the lease it is with the City Ordinance. She
said both the Sun and News Enterprise printed good articles
with regard to this issue, covered nearly everything, the Sun
had an editorial with regard to a similar problem on Main
Street and the residential streets. The most common
complaints that she hears is that people want to park their
car in front of their house, and even though it is a public
street people consider the space in front of their house as
their spot, the second issue is dogs, they do not want dogs
on their lawn for any reason, when people walk their dogs
late at night they are not walking the dog for exercise it is
because they do not want to clean up their own yard, another
concern of hers has always been those who walk their dogs
around the perimeter of Heather Park at night and then
children going to school the next morning either step in
piles or put their backpacks next to trees that have been wet
upon the prior night. The Mayor said last week at a .Coastal
Commission meeting someone made the comment that Gum ,'Grove
has become nothing more than a dog park, the Commiss~on was
ready to take over enforcement at Gum Grove, the response of
City staff was that dogs are not permitted off-leash!at Gum
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Grove, which ended that discussion for now, if the Commission
gets involved with Gum Grove the Federal Government would be
a nothing as compared to the Coastal Commission, several
years ago while attending a Commission hearing in Oceanside
they brought up the same issue to which she asked if that was
not a Seal Beach rather than Coastal Commission issue, they
relented, but if they keep getting complaints they will take
over the jurisdiction of Gum Grove and the City will have no
say, people need to stop letting their dogs off leash and
need to clean up so that Coastal Commission will not be
contacted. Mayor Campbell concluded that with regard to what
is being dealt with now, the Ordinance is on the books, she
would ask that it be respected and let this issue be settled,
this is being worked on and she would ask for patience.
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ITEM "G" - COUNCIL POLICY - CITIZEN INITIATED TRAFFIC CALMING
PROJECTS
Councilman Yost reported having received several calls with
regard to speeding cars, a family on Taper Drive had two dogs
killed in one day by a speeding driver, someone who had been
warned about speeding in the past, a family on Bayside has
experienced speeding traffic and has requested more selective
enforcement of the area, a similar pet death on Driftwood
Avenue as well, speeding cars is one of the most frequent
complaints that he receives. The Councilman said what is
before the Council is a policy statement that allows people
in a community to come together to do some traffic calming,
to take some matters into their own hands, and when one looks
at who is speeding it is not people from outside the City it
is people within the neighborhoods. Yost moved, second by
Larson, to approve the Council Policy regarding citizen
requests for traffic calming projects within the City.
AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
with regard to the next item on the agenda, the Boeing
Integrated Defense Systems Development Plan, the City Manager
stated that he and the Public Works Director would excuse
themselves from the meeting as a result of an FPPC determined
conflict.
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BOEING INTEGRATED DEFENSE SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT PLAN -
RESOLUTION NUMBER 5150 - GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 03-2 /
ORDINANCE NUMBER 1504 - ZONE CHANGE 03-2 / RESOLUTION NUMBER
5151 - BOEING SPECIFIC PLAN / RESOLUTION NUMBER
5152 - VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 16375
The Associate Planner reported that after the last City
Council meeting there were still some unresolved issues
relating to the proposed Boeing development in the area of
Seal Beach Boulevard and Westminster Avenue. He noted that
there were a series of issues that came up and he would
present what the proposed resolution of those would be, there
were two issues that the Boeing team agreed to during the
course of the meeting, basically if during rough grading the
wind speed is twenty-five miles an hour for a period of one
hour construction activity would cease, they agreed to that
on the condition that it would be included in the EIR
Resolution, there was also a concern that there should be
some type of notification procedure for the Leisure World
community when Boeing was about to commence construction
activities, Boeing agreed to notify the Leisure World News
and other applicable news sources. Subsequent to that there
were three issues that were held over, staff has had
conversations with the Boeing team since that meeting, one
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was the drainage along Seal Beach Boulevard at the base of
the hill near Planning Area 1, the proposed solution at that
meeting was to cure the drainage problem within twelve months
as opposed to the original recommendation of creating a
study, the Boeing team has agreed to do that within twelve
months after the issuance of a California Coastal Commission
permit, secondly was the length of time to exclusively market
Planning Area 4 for hotel use, the original proposal was to
do that for a period of eighteen months, Council proposed to
extend that for a full thirty-six months, the Boeing team has
agreed to do that. The last concern related to noise and a
requirement that could be imposed to require dual pane
windows for units within Leisure World, to which the Planner
reported that there are about twenty-two units that could be
affected by construction noise across from Planning Area 3,
the Boeing team proposal was to add a condition to require a
study to determine the cost of such installation, during the
past two weeks staff has had the opportunity to look at those
units with the same contractor that replaced all of the
windows as a result of the Department of Water and Power
project in the City of Long Beach, an estimate of cost was
submitted of $130,000 merely for Council consideration. At
this point the Boeing team has agreed to all requests of the
Council except for the window replacement matter, therefore
with the receipt of the estimated cost the Council may now
determine whether they want to impose that condition or not,
the Council could require a study as well and then defer a
decision on the installation of windows until a later date.
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Councilman Yost inquired as to the distance between the
Island Village homes and Planning Area 3 buildings, and the
distance between Leisure World residences and Planning Area 3
buildings. The Associate Planner responded that the closest
lot in the northwestern corner of Planning Area 3 is
approximately two hundred thirty feet from the closest Island
Village home, it is a greater distance across Westminster to
Leisure World, the exact distance he was not certain of, the
closest distance from lot 4, a middle lot, is approximately
three hundred seventy feet, and the Precise Plan approved by
the Planning Commission some six weeks ago includes on lot 3
a loading dock which was specifically designed to not be
facing towards Island Village because of noise concerns.
with regard to the 66KV lines that come in to service the
Boeing facility, Councilman Yost asked if they cross lot 4,
and since that is new construction will they be
undergrounded, the response of the Planner was no, they would
be relocated, explaining that the lines along Westminster
would continue then go straight onto the property but because
of where the building is proposed to be on lot 4 they would
need to be relocated so that they could get around that
building to the Edison substation that is located in the
middle of the property. Councilman Yost inquired if they
should be undergrounded if they are going to be running
through the new development area, the response of the Planner
was that as said by Mr. Dominguez they do not have to be.
Councilman Yost said he understands that the 66KV lines
generate a lot of heat, undergrounding is expensive and
difficult to do, his concern is that this gets away from the
general policy that all new development construction should
have the utilities undergrounded, not only for aesthetic
reasons but for safety reasons as well, it is known that the
undergrounding and maintenance costs are higher yet the long
term benefits are felt to be reasonable to pursue. I
Councilman Larson said as he had indicated at the end of the
last meeting, as was learned from the Bixby developm~nt what
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the City does not get now it is unlikely to ever be realized,
he does not want to approve anything until it is known
precisely what conditions are going to be met, and in
particular the window situation for Leisure World, if it is
determined to be left merely as a study and approve
everything else then Boeing will say that the study shows
that the windows are not needed and they will not be
realized, his preference then is that the matter be continued
until the study is done, the sound levels are known, and what
the arguments are going to be. Councilman Yost asked if
Island Village should be included in that. The Associate
Planner mentioned that there are mitigation measures in place
to address the placement of the buildings on the lots and
when it is known who the users will be, there are mitigation
measures within the EIR Resolution that require additional
noise studies on those buildings to see if additional
mitigation, whether it be higher soundwalls or whatever, is
necessary to mitigate noise from the ultimate user.
Councilman Doane noted the speaker on behalf of Island
village that mentioned a soundwall, and asked if that would
be a consideration. The Planner responded that it could be
if the noise study deemed that it was necessary. Councilman
Yost agreed with the comment of Councilman Larson that a
noise study should be looked at and see what transpires with
regard to Island Village and Leisure world, Island village is
not in this City but they are neighbors. The Planner stated
that he would like to separate the different types of noise
studies, there is the noise study that is typically done as
part of the EIR, that looked at going across Westminster
Avenue in different noise contours, it proposes certain
mitigation based on certain end users with the understanding
that it is not known what each end user is going to be, what
is done in that type of situation is require additional
mitigation which is in the form of an additional noise study
to be completed prior to the issuance of a building permit to
make sure that the ultimate noise mitigation is met at the
time it is known who the ultimate end user will be,
developers in most instances would not know who the user of
each building will be at this point. Looking at the issue of
noise in general, the Noise Study looked both across
Westminster and toward Island Village and determined that at
the end of construction there would be no noticeable impact
to the average human ear, what is being discussed is short
term construction noise impacts which are currently exempted
from noise standards within the Municipal Code. The Mayor
asked if that means that a noise study can not be requested
for noise generated from the construction, the response of
the Planner was that it could be requested, explaining
however that Boeing was requesting a study to determine the
cost of installing the dual pane windows as compared to a
noise study to show different effects based upon different
types of window construction and how much it would mitigate
future noise. Mayor Campbell said to her the cost estimate
seemed to be unrealistically high, she was not satisfied as
to where it is right now, possibly this decision should be
delayed until two things are accomplished, get a second
estimate and talk about the noise study. Councilman Larson
indicated agreement. Councilman Doane said possibly the
Boeing team would have something to add since the last
meeting.
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Mr. Clay Corwin, Stonecreek representing Boeing, said he
wanted to be clear on the noise study issue, his feeling is
that a noise study is not appropriate language in that the
noise analysis has already been done through the EIR by the
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consultant for the City, his recollection of the discussion
was to get an understanding of those units that would be
affected, the Boeing team was unclear as to which units would
be affected, they have been on-site since the last meeting,
they have seen the materials that staff has developed with
the contractor in terms of identification, and stated they
are in agreement with the areas, those are units that were
identified generically before as units having windows facing
Westminster Avenue across from Planning area 3 which is where
the concern about construction noise impacts would be. with
regard to that issue Mr. Corwin stated they are satisfied
thus far to resolve the sound issue which would require
double paned windows which was discussed at the last meeting,
a request of Mr. Sears on behalf of Leisure World to have
window replacement, the Boeing team would do that in a
responsible manner, with a responsible contractor, come up
with a procedure that is satisfactory to the City, the
Council, and the affected residents in terms of scheduling
and having it completed before there is on-site work, that
was their understanding of the intent, they had some concern
with the initial number of replacements yet if it ends up
being that, then that is what it will be. Mr. Corwin
respectfully requested that this item be moved forward
because he said he did not know what more could be studied in
the interim, he would be willing to put the study issue
behind them. Mr. Corwin indicated their willingness to do
the replacement windows. Both Councilman Larson and Mayor
Campbell stated that would satisfy them on that issue. with
regard to the Island Village residences, Mr. Corwin mentioned
that as was stated at the last meeting the Boeing team had
met with Mr. Bates and other members of the Board of Island
Village, just as they had held other community meetings, to
understand their concerns, it is felt that they have made a
number of positive changes to the project to address those
concerns, an adjustment was made to the loading zone on the
building nearest their property, working with staff they have
relocated some of the outside trash compacting units on
buildings 3, 4, and 5, a long term desire was to have a
sidewalk along the property frontage, that is now a condition
that they will be complying with by means of the Map, they
have adjusted the exterior lighting on the buildings to deal
with concern relating to visual aesthetics, adjusted the
glass line as well, those things have been changed if not
eliminated, the number of units in Island Village that are
close, which is about two hundred thirty feet at minimum, is
about four to five units before the Los Alamitos Retarding
Basin cuts away and the balance of those units moves to the
west, there will be a wall and screening on the back of the
property at the time of final development, it is not feasible
to put those things in before the rough grading is done, all
of those features have been built in, and do the people of
Island Village think they have gone as far as they should,
apparently not, and when they started talking about doing
things to building 5 which is five to six hundred feet away
it was felt that those requests were beyond what was thought
to be appropriate, they will continue to work with Island
Village, give them notice before construction, etc. similar
to what will be done for Leisure World residents, it is felt
that there are a number of positive things that have been
incorporated into this project.
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Mr. Antos referred to page two of the staff report listing
conditions agreed to at the last meeting, one other Jas a no
cost performance item relating to watering and rough Igrading,
that upon there being winds of twenty-five miles an nour or
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more that they cease their work, there could also be a
situation where if the last watering was at 2:00 p.m.
everything dries out, the winds pickup and the dust blows
over Leisure World, in such a case he asked that watering be
as directed by staff, especially by the end of the day, the
Boeing representative indicated that would be no problem, and
asked that that condition be placed in one of the documents.
Councilman Yost noted that there were other issues that would
have been granted at the discretion of the Development
Services Director as opposed to going through the Planning
Commission, and asked if all of those had been changed in the
documents. The Associate Planner stated that they had.
The City Attorney noted that with respect to the Island
Village comments raised earlier in this meeting, it should be
kept in mind that the public hearing was closed at the last
meeting, the people from Leisure World testified during the
public hearing portion, that was the time that staff, Boeing,
and the Council had the opportunity to respond to comments,
the comments at this meeting were made at the Planning
Commission with regard to the EIR and were responded to as
part of the Final EIR. The City Attorney confirmed that the
titles of the proposed documents would need to be read, also
suggested language he added for the new Condition 32 of the
Tentative Tract Map Resolution regarding window replacement
if that is the desire of the Council.
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Campbell moved, second by Larson, to adopt Resolution Number
5150 entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 03-2 (LAND
USE, HOUSING AND CIRCULATION ELEMENTS - BOEING INTEGRATED
DEFENSE SYSTEMS SPECIFIC PLAN.) By unanimous consent, full
reading of Resolution Number 5150 was waived.
AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
Campbell moved, second by Larson, to approve second reading
and adopt Ordinance Number 1504 entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF SEAL BEACH ADOPTING ZONE CHANGE 03-2, CHANGING THE
ZONING DESIGNATION FROM LIGHT MANUFACTURING (M-l) TO SPECIFIC
PLAN REGULATION (SPR) AT THE BOEING INTEGRATED DEFENSE
SYSTEMS PROPERTY (2201 SEAL BEACH BOULEVARD." By unanimous
consent, full reading of Ordinance Number 1504 was waived.
AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
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Campbell moved, second by Larson, to adopt Resolution Number
5151 entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH ADOPTING THE BOEING INTEGRATED DEFENSE SYSTEMS
(BIDS) SPECIFIC PLAN (BOEING INTEGRATED DEFENSE SYSTEMS
PROPERTY)." By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 5151 was waived. It was again confirmed to Councilman
Yost that the future review and approvals will be granted by
the Planning Commission rather than the administrative staff.
AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
Mayor Campbell read in full the title of Resolution Number
5152 "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL
BEACH APPROVING VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 16375,
LOCATED IN THE BOEING INTEGRATED DEFENSE SYSTEMS (BIDS)
SPECIFIC PLAN AREA."
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The City Attorney read the language of the new Condition 32
to Resolution Number 5152, "Prior to the issuance of a
grading permit for any of lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 11, 12, or l3
the subdivider shall install double paned windows in each of
the twenty-two (22) units listed on attachment A, the
estimate, with the unit owners prior written agreement to or
rejection of such installation to be obtained within forty-
five (45) days of receipt by certified mail, return receipt
requested, of a request for agreement or rejection of said
replacement program. Failure of any owner/occupant of an
identified residential unit to respond in writing within said
forty-five (45) day time period shall release the project
proponent from any further responsibility relative to this
condition." The City Attorney noted that there may be some
residents that do not wish to have double paned windows, the
residents need to agree to have the double paned windows, if
they agree they will be installed by Boeing.
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Campbell moved, second by Doane, to adopt Resolution Number
5152 as amended to include Condition 32.
AYES:
NOES:
Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
Councilman Larson said he has seen the development behind the
Boeing building off of Bolsa Chica, that would not be
acceptable, he hopes that Seal Beach will have a first class
quality development as promised of which the City can be
proud.
PUBLIC HEARING / RESOLUTION NUMBER 5159 - WATER RATE
ADJUSTMENT / CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM / RESERVE FUNDS
Mayor Campbell declared the public hearing open to consider
water rate adjustments. The City Clerk certified that the
notice of public hearing had been mailed to each resident and
property owner in June, 2003, an additional notice of hearing
had been advertised, that the Director of Public Works
received a total of seven written comments, three in support
of the water rate adjustment and four against. The Director
of Public Works noted that this presentation was made in
April however it was being presented again for the
information of the public, also introduced Mr. Zeke Kayiran,
AKM Consulting Engineers, who performed the water rate study
as well as the update to the Water Master Plan. The Director
reported that the City consists of about 7,400 acres with a
population of approximately 29,500, most of the City is
served with the exception of Rossmoor, west of Seal Beach,
which is served by the Southern California Water District,
the Bixby Towne Center and Centex are served by Seal Beach.
The Director mentioned that $100,000,000 is the estimated
replacement cost for the water system, about seventy miles of
pipe, three wells, two booster pumps, two reservoirs, over
six hundred fire hydrants, and twelve hundred valves, all of
which require both regular operating maintenance capabilities
and capital replacement functions. Where does our water come
from, water is imported from the Metropolitan Water District
which is located in westminster, that water is shared with
other agencies on the feeder line, the City also pumps water
from the ground, a stakeholder with the Orange County Water
District, the three wells are Beverly Manor, Bolsa Chica, and
Leisure World, the age of that infrastructure ranges from
twenty-four to forty-one years. The booster pump stations
provide adequate pressures for fire fighting flow and
delivery of water to the customer, one is located within the
Navy Base and one adjacent to Beverly Manor, those a~e vital
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to the system and are included in the proposed Capital
Improvement Program. The reservoir on the Base holds 2.7
million gallons, it is used to regulate flow from the
imported water supply and for the Navy booster station,
another is located at Beverly Manor that holds 4 million
gallons, the total is close to 7 million gallons. There is
about seventy miles of pipe, much of which is old and the
City is working towards replacement of those pipes, there is
a total of about five thousand meters. The Director reported
that about $13.6 million of capital improvements is needed
over a ten year period, one being the well north of the 405
Freeway in College Park East, if that well is not built
within ten years that property will revert back to Bixby, it
is necessary to do a telemetry system in that the City is
currently operating with a 1960 technology with no way to
adjust the system, for emergencies, mechanical upgrades,
engine replacements, and geographic systems to manage the
water distribution system, all is in need of replacement and
upgrading. Mayor Campbell noted the mention that some of the
water is imported and some is well water, and asked if some
areas of the City get water from a particular source or is it
mixed, the reason for the question is that when they moved to
the City they were told that College Park East was served
with Colorado River water, the Hill and Old Town received
well water, that because of the way the pipes were laid out
when the system was put in.
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Mr. Zeke Kayiran responded that it is mixed, likely because
the Bolsa Chica well was not constructed at that time, the
closest supply point to College Park East was most likely the
imported supply connection, because of the way the water is
circulated in the system it was probably mostly imported
water at that time. Mr. Kayiran explained that the water
system is financed through charges, one is the commodity
charge which is on the amount of water used, it goes into one
fund and used to recover the cost of operating and
maintaining the system, the costs include the purchase of
water from the Municipal Water District of Orange County,
paying for ground water to the Orange County Water District,
utilities to operate the system, the pump stations, and
performing maintenance on the system. He noted the last time
the commodity rates were adjusted was in 1997, those rates
vary by the amount of water used, a tiered rate, established
that way in order to encourage conservation. The second
charge is based on meter size, a capital charge, that is used
for updating the system and implementing capital
improvements, the capital charge established in 1997 varies
from $7 per month for five-eighths and three quarter inch
residential meters up to $1,007.93 for a twelve inch meter.
The Director of Public Works noted recent media reports with
regard to local ground water versus imported water, there
have now been changes, in the past the City was allowed to
pump seventy-five percent of its water from the basin, it is
now sixty-six percent which means there will be thirty-four
percent more of imported water from the Metropolitan Water
District, that will increase water purchases per year by
$186,000, that is covered in the Water Rate Study. Mr.
Kayiran reported that over the past five years the revenues
for the Operation and Maintenance Fund have been quite low,
four of the five years they have been less than the
expenditures, the Capital Fund generates approximately
$600,000 per year and the balance as of July, 2002 was about
$1.8 million. It can be seen that the existing commodity
rates are short of the water system expenditures, they have
not been increased since 1997 except for a minor adjustment
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made for purchased water, if the rates had been increased
just for inflation the current rates would be fourteen to
twenty percent higher, the existing Capital Fund charges had
been established based on a much smaller Capital Improvement
Program as recommended by the previous Master Plan, that did
not really address the needs of the system, the system is
getting old, many of the facilities are outdated and need to I
be updated, neither fund generated sufficient revenue for
reserves. Mr. Kayiran stated that the proposal is to revise
the charges so that the revenues adequately cover the
operation of the system and implementation of the recommended
Capital Improvement Program, the recommendation is a six year
program where the rates would be increased to implement the
CIP. Many agencies are evaluating their systems to assure
that their customers are served adequately and properly, they
are in turn finding that they have to raise rates, La Habra
recently raised their rates by thirty percent in the first
year of a multi-year increase, the Southern California Water
Company who serves Cypress, Los Alamitos, and a portion of
Seal Beach, as compared to Seal Beach they are about $10 per
month higher, and displayed a table showing the increases in
rates and increases in 2003 dollars, a breakdown of the water
bill showing the largest portion going to Operation and
Maintenance, the second largest the CIP. Mr. Kayiran said
there are many factors that impact the establishment of rates
between the various agencies including the source of supply,
Seal Beach gets a great deal of its water from the ground,
which is considerably cheaper, the shape of the area is flat
ground, there are not high elevations where reservoirs can be
established to feed the system by gravity therefore it is
necessary to pump into the system continuously, the age of . I
the system is a big issue, water quality another of many
issues. Mr. Kayiran stated that the recommendation is that
the Capital Improvement Program and the funding alternative
as presented be adopted, included in that is a fiscal budget
policy to include sufficient reserves in the two funds. The
Public Works Director reiterated the recommendation to adopt
the proposed resolution that will adjust the water charges
for the next six years.
Mayor Campbell invited members of the audience wishing to
speak to this item to come to the microphone and identify
themselves. Mr. Jack Dampman, resident since 1966, displayed
a copy of the public hearing notice he received via mail, to
which he said even with the presentation he is somewhat
concerned and confused, evidently this year the water is
being paid for within the City budget, the notice says that
the rates were calculated by determining ground water and
imported water costs and estimating the cost of future needs
therefore next year water will cost thirty-five percent more,
twenty percent the following year, fifteen percent the next
year, and then drop to three percent for the next three
years, and to that he stated he is not convinced that the
Council has received enough information to make a decision to
raise the rates by thirty-five percent next year. A question I
in the flier asks why the City is proposing a six year
increase schedule, the response is that it is to lessen the
initial financial impacts on the customer, yet the first year
is the largest at thirty-five percent. Mr. Dampman said he
cares naught what other cities charge, he merely wants Seal
Beach to charge him enough to bring him good quality water,
that is it, said again that he did not understand nor did he
think that a case was made to raise the rates thirty-five
percent. There being no other speakers, Mayor Campbell
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The Public Works Director responded that the increases were
staggered on a tier structure downward, as was pointed out by
Mr. Kayiran in 1997/98 the Water Operation Fund operated at
an $180,000 deficit, the following year at a $340,000
deficit, in 2000/01 the Fund was a $670,000 deficit, and in
200l/02 there was a $329,000 deficit, the money to cover that
deficit was taken from the Capital Fund which must be paid
back, the rates are being proposed to be raised enough to
cover the basic operating expenditure costs, that is why it
is eventually going to go down to three percent when there
are appropriate reserves and operational cost coverage for
the system. Mayor Campbell said she believed it was meant
that in 1997 it was thought that the City had everything
covered but they did not, rather operating at a deficit.
Councilman Doane suggested that there be an explanation of
the aquifer and why the City is not able to draw as much
water from the ground supply as it has in the past. Mr.
Kayiran said that is in addition to the City operating at a
deficit in the Maintenance and Operation Fund, and explained
that because there has not been sufficient precipitation in
the Santa Ana River Basin, which feeds the Orange County
groundwater basin, water has been used from the ground at a
much higher rate than what can be replenished, the Orange
County Water District, the manager of the basin, decided to
lower the percentage of what could be pumped out of the
ground for all of the agencies in the groundwater basin, for
about the last eight years each pumper in the groundwater
basin was allowed to pump up to seventy-five percent of its
need from the groundwater basin at a reasonable price which
was $127 per acre foot last year, however because these
levels have dropped and to prevent sea water from intruding
into the groundwater basin, the percentage allowed to be
pumped is reduced to sixty-six percent, also, the
replenishment assessment that each agency will pay to the
Orange County Water District for water pumped from the ground
has gone up from $127 per acre foot to $149 per acre foot, a
substantial amount. Councilman Doane asked if the increased
population does not create more demands as well. Mr. Kayiran
confirmed that it does.
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Councilman Yost sought clarification that this is an
enterprise fund which charges rates that are commensurate
with the cost to provide the water and the City makes no
money from that. The City Manager stated that was correct,
also, clarified that enterprise fund monies are prohibited
from being placed in the General Fund yet General Fund monies
could be used to subsidize the Water Fund. Councilman Yost
said then over the past several years the Water Enterprise
Fund has been supplemented with General Fund dollars because
the amount being collected in water fees was not covering the
cost. The response of the City Manager was that it came from
the Water Capital Fund, yet if this trend continues the Water
Capital will be exhausted, and the step after that would be
the General Fund to keep the Enterprise Fund solvent.
Councilman Yost asked if there is a requirement to put that
money back in the Capital Fund, how is the amount of money in
that Fund gauged, based on appreciation and amortization of
the various resources. The Manager confirmed that to be
correct, it should also be noted that the program outlined,
those improvements must be done, that is for safe, reliable
drinking water, and many of the systems in Seal Beach, the
wells, the lines, etc. when they go bad they are gone, he
would suggest that Anaheim Bay and the Sewer Fund be
recalled, Anaheim Bay was not anticipated and it was lucky
that funds were available because the repair was costly when
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the line gave way, the same thing could happen in the Water
Fund, that the reason for the Capital amount. Councilman
Yost made reference also to the hearing notice that said the
intent was to lessen the impacts yet the highest increase is
being imposed in the first year, why was it worded in that
way, and why is the highest increase in the first year. The
Public Works Director responded that the rates could have
been raised all at once in the first year to satisfy the
operating expenditure need but then it would have dropped to
three percent the next year, instead the rates were tiered
down so that the three percent would be realized over a three
year period instead of raising the rates all at once the
first year. Councilman Yost said his thought was that
possibly they could have been raised not quite so high the
first year, yet it is realized that the City is in a deficit
mode as to the cost to provide the water service. The City
Manager mentioned that staff looked at a va~iety of
scenarios, his recollection is that if it were to be raised
all in one year it would have amounted to seventy-four
percent, the intent is to get the rates to a flat plain of
three percent as quickly as possible, people understand that
costs do go up, this seemed to be the best of the scenarios,
a spike for a couple of years and then the rates drop to the
three percent. Councilman Yost asked why this has not been
looked at sooner in that rates have not been raised since
1997, how has the City gotten behind with the cost of
providing water service. The Manager said basically one
would need to go back to the budgets, first you have to
provide a study, that took some time, and in the interim
there were electrical energy rates that spiked, electrical
pumps are used to pump the ground water, treat it, the rates
should have been raised a small amount each year since 1997,
had that been done there would not be this problem. Mayor
Campbell suggested that the City is in the same situation as
the homes that are no longer new homes, things wear out and
need to be replaced, the Sanitation District just raised
rates in that northern and central Orange County has
infrastructure of thirty to forty years old that needs to be
replaced, the rate adjustment is not sufficient to do what
needs to be done so the District will need to borrow the
shortfall, she has a problem with borrowing. Maintenance and
Operations was artificially increased during the electric
energy crisis, those costs were more than what was
anticipated, bottom line is that the City can no longer
operate in a deficit, if the residents use the service they
need to pay for it. Councilman Antos said he found that
comment interesting, then stated that a constituent recently
went on a long vacation, upon returning they received a large
water bill and inquired as to why, allegedly was told that
the reading did not appear to be high enough therefore it was
felt that there was something wrong with the meter and was
adjusted, and the meter would be monitored for a couple of
months. To that Councilman Antos said the people are either
being charged for what they use or not charged for what they
use and it is guesstimated, whatever the policy is it needs
to be made public, when these people were gone they received
a higher bill. The City Manager offered that those types of
instances occur once in a great while, sometimes people are
away believing that their water is off, an irrigation line
cracks as an example or a pipe breaks. Councilman Antos
countered that the meter reading was correct, the residents
were gone, they did not use water, the meter reading was
down, yet they were charged a higher rate because it: was said
there might be something wrong with the meter reading
correctly, they received a large bill yet used no water. The
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Manager again said people are charged only for what they use
if they have an issue, they can come to the City and '
something is always worked out with the rate payer, he has no
knowledge of this instance, as an example, even if it can be
seen that this happened, it will still not affect the rates
as substantially as is thought, every effort is made to work
out such situations.
Larson moved, second by Doane, to adopt Resolution Number
5159 entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH ADJUSTING WATER RATES." By unanimous consent,
full reading of Resolution number 5159 was waived.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Campbell, Doane, Larson
None
Antos, Yost
Motion carried
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
No report was presented.
CITY MANAGER REPORT
The City Manager displayed a newly constructed directional
sign to the Red Car Museum and signs advising of the
prohibition of all fireworks in the City of Seal Beach that
will be posted at every entrance to the City.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Yost thanked staff for the Red Car Museum sign on
behalf of the Seal Beach Historical Society, stating that the
past tells where we are going and who we are. It was
confirmed to Councilman Antos that it is believed that a
Redevelopment Agency meeting will be held on the next meeting
date. Mayor Campbell reiterated that the City is working as
quickly as possible to resolve the dog issue, in the meantime
the Ordinance prohibiting dogs in parks is in effect and will
be enforced.
CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting until Monday, August 25th at 6:30 p.m.
By unanimous consent, the meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
clerk
Approved:
Attest: