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Seal Beach, California
April 8, 2002
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:03 p.m. with Mayor Doane calling the
meeting to order.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Doane
Councilmembers Boyd, Larson, Yost
Absent:
Councilmember Campbell
Councilmember Campbell arrived at 6:12 p.m.
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Ms. Arends-King, Director of Administrative
Services
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
The City Attorney advised that this would be the time for
members of the public to speak to the items identified on the
agenda. No comments were made.
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The City Attorney announced that the City Council would
adjourn to the Conference Room to meet in Closed Session to
confer with legal counsel relating to anticipated litigation
pursuant to Government Code Sections 54956.9(a) and (b),
thereafter would hold a Council workshop relating to proposed
Municipal Code revisions, a review of Chapters 1 through 3,
and new revisions of Chapters 4 and 6. The Council adjourned
to Closed Session at 6:05 p.m. and reconvened at 6:10 p.m.
The City Attorney reported that the Council had discussed the
Closed Session items identified on the agenda, no reportable
action was taken.
Mayor Doane called the workshop session to order.
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WORKSHOP - MUNICIPAL CODE REVISIONS
The City Attorney offered for consideration Municipal Code
Titles 4 and 6, Title 4 generally streamlines current
provisions, because of Propositions 13, 64, and 208 no
changes were made to the content of the various City taxes,
most existed before Proposition 13, others preceded
Proposition 208, there was an attempt to streamline Title 4
as much possible however that was not possible with some
sections as it would change the content therefore the
language was left as it exists, a comparison of language was
provided the Council in the agenda packet.
Councilmember Campbell arrived at 6:12 p.m.
Councilman Larson pointed out that there is going to be a new
member of the City Council, he does not want the new member
to be told that this is something that this Council adopted,
his preference is that this process be slowed to some degree
so that the new member of the Council is not presented with
this large volume of paper to then be voted on. Councilman
Larson said if there happens to be errors or omissions,
something that would create problems, he prefers that the
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responsibility lie with someone other than'the members of the
Council. The City Attorney said the comments were well
taken, Title 4 and 6 are forty-four and sixty-eight pages
respectively, considerable information even though
substantive changes were not made, he agreed that it would
not seem fair to impose such a massive document on a new
member of the Council, therefore after this session he was
uncertain as to when another portion of the revision would be
ready. The City Manager mentioned that there are upcoming
budget workshops and hearings, possibly this task can be
postponed until after budget adoption. The Attorney stated
that the new Councilperson will be provided with all of the
materials thus far.
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Councilman Larson noted that there are misdemeanors and
infractions for Code violations, and requested an explanation
of the administrative penalty. The City Attorney explained
that there has been a trend in a number of cities to have a
third category for things that are not infractions yet are
violations of the Code, this is an area of revision that will
require considerably more work, he and the staff will be
doing further review to determine minor infractions, thus far
there have only been a few at that level. The City Manager
said a number of cities are giving building inspectors
administrative citation authority to issue what is basically
a ticket for something that is deemed to be a minor violation
of the Code, that is the procedure as opposed to calling out
a Code enforcement officer, another reason for the
administrative citation is that in the case of infractions or
misdemeanors that go to court they are often not filed on
because they do not meet the threshold, the city will often
establish a process whereby a retired judge or attorney will
hear the matter, and agreed that this process would be
similar to that for a vehicle violation citation. The City
Attorney clarified that this person would only hear appeals,
they would be held at City Hall, most people merely pay the
fine, this has been proven to, be quite effective in other
cities. Councilman Larson said he was astonished at the
number of taxes there are, some can be used for any purpose,
others can only be used for a specific purpose. The Director
of Administrative Services stated that from an accounting
point of view, and the auditors agree, under the Community
Services Fee she would like to change the wording relating to
delinquencies so that it coincides with the water bills, due
in twenty days after the billing date with a ten percent
penalty after thirty-six days, that under the section
entitled 'Collection.' Councilman Larson recalled that
during the election relating to the street sweeping and tree
trimming fees it was understood and the voters were informed
that those fees were limited to that purpose, to that the
City Attorney said that is likely under Proposition 218. The
Administrative Services Director said it would be difficult
to track delinquent fees if the same payment time frame is
not used. The Director made reference to the Transportation
Impact Development Fee, stated she has set those fees up as a
deposit account to the General Fund, interest is allocated to
that account, would this not be considered the same as a
reserve account, the response was that is thought to be true
however will be confirmed. The Director made reference to
Section 4.10, Special Funds, and inquired as to what the
Revenue Sharing Trust Fund is and is it needed, the response
was that it will be looked at as it is felt it is no longer
necessary. The Director noted that an account is established
in the General Fund for the Self Insured Loss Reserve for
workers comp and liability, therefore is the separate Fund
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still necessary, the City is required to have $900,000 in the
General Fund for insurance, an OCCRMA requirement, the
auditors also set up a reserve for the minimum self insured.
It was noted that this Fund was established years ago when
the City went to self insured. The Attorney said it was
believed that subsection "A" relates to workers comp, "B" was
thought to be the OCCRMA liability reserve fund, if it could
be determined when that provision went into the Code the
rationale would likely be determined. The Director stated
that when that Fund is shown separately it looks as if those
monies are not General Fund yet they are, it is somewhat
confusing in that the reserves need to be shown on the
balance sheet. The Director referred to the title
'Disposition' under the Environmental Reserve Tax, stated
that a deposit account has also been established for that,
interest is allocated to it, that just makes the accounting
much easier, easier to find. The Attorney noted that this
was a pre- Proposition tax, it is uncertain if it needs to be
segregated. The Director responded that if it does not need
to be segregated she would prefer that it not be.
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Councilman Boyd inquired as to the process to increase a tax,
to place it on the November ballot, or would it necessarily
require voter approval. The City Attorney stated it would
depend on the nature of the tax, if it is a special tax the
answer is yes, under Proposition 22 it would need to go to a
general election. It was clarified that the deadline for
placing a measure on the November ballot is August 9th, a
preferable date would be in July. Councilman Boyd made
reference to the Transient Occupancy Tax and placing an
increase on the ballot, it is now nine percent, lower than
most cities in the County, the City can either tax itself or
tax the visitors. The City Attorney mentioned that after
Proposition 64 was reconfirmed, first declared to be
unconstitutional then reconfirmed, many cities increased the
TOT rather than the Utility Users Tax. To the question as to
what the general percentage is in other cities, staff
responded that Long Beach is twelve percent, Anaheim is
thought to be thirteen percent, the median is about ten
percent. Question was raised as to the current TOT revenue,
the response of staff was about $200,000, yet there is the
new Ayres Hotel and potential for another. It was noted that
the revenue could increase by $15,000 to $20,000. The City
Attorney inquired if the Council wished to explore an
increase of the TOT, the City Manager indicated that would be
part of the budget presentation.
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Councilman Larson made reference to the Real Property
Transfer Tax and the exceptions, and inquired how that is
affected by a family trust, it is not a sale so possibly it
is not covered. The Attorney offered to look into that
question. It was mentioned that staff has not had an
opportunity. to review Titles 4 and 6 as yet therefore there
may be additional comments forthcoming. The Finance Director
stated that there were no questions other than the accounts
for receipt of funds, keeping them separate rather than mixed
and then interest is allocated thereto. The Attorney said he
just wanted to make certain that the Code is not changed to
where revenue is not forthcoming.
To Title 6, Franchises, the City Attorney stated that there
are some changes, when a comparison chart is prepared it will
be easier to see the changes, at this point Title 6 is
somewhat of a preview. The Attorney mentioned that their
hands were somewhat tied in that there are existing cable and
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waste contract franchises as well as some for oil and gas,
they attempted to modernize the cable ordinance to account
for new technology, an example would be Open Video Systems
which he was not certain as to what that is specifically.
Councilman Larson inquired if there is anything that would
provide for any further control that the City might have in
that the law has been variable as to what can and can not be
done relating to cable. The Attorney said the language is
state of the art, their firm has been developing a new
ordinance in this area for many years yet every few years the
law changes which again requires revisions. with respect to
the waste franchise, in effect since 1986, they tried to
revise some of the language however there is not much
difference from what was done three years ago, the attempt
was to clarify language where there have been problems in the
past, recurring issues regarding recycling, issues relating
to interpretation, addressing some ambiguous language.
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The City Attorney said again that when the comparison charts
are completed this review will be more easily read, however
the charts are not easy in that_ there are wholesale changes
in order to streamline the Code in terms of placement,
matching, make it more user friendly and understandable, and
deal with new technology. It is believed there will be
twelve Titles. Zoning will be held over pending the General
Plan and Local Coastal Plan revisions, Business Regulations
will be difficult and there will be a need for greater staff
involvement, that Chapter was done somewhat piecemeal, it is
difficult to understand, in the end it will be more
understandable for those who wish to do'business in the City
so they can readily see the requirements and fees. He noted
that there will be no changes in terms of actual fee amounts.
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Councilmember Campbell inquired if there is a park policy in
one specific place, the response of staff was that there is,
believed to be in the Policy Manual. Councilmember Campbell
said at one time she drafted a park policy where all
provisions were in one place yet it was never considered.
The City Manager mentioned that there are things in the
current Code that could lead the City to problems, they are
out of date and unenforceable, news racks, parades and
processions are examples. The City Attorney mentioned that
they will be addressing the issue of news racks, signs and
banners another issue, those are sensitive areas, for
anything that touches on First Amendment rights it is
difficult to prepare something that makes everyone happy or
is subject to challenge, and noted that in Buena Park it has
taken about three years to develop a news rack ordinance,
some cities are requiring uniform racks particularly in areas
like Main Street, Buena Park will require that all news racks
be a certain model, double stacked, there will be limits and
spacing requirements, all of the large newspapers are
supporting and agreeing to the ordinance except for one
distributor of approximately three hundred publications, he
does not want uniform racks and feels it is discriminatory to
have a limit on the number of racks, that city made
significant concessions in terms of priorities for pre-
existing publications at certain locations, the big issue is
to make sure that no one is foreclosed from the street,
therefore when the spacing requirements are developed staff
will need to do a survey of what currently exists. The
Development Services Director said he believed what had been
previously determined was eight at anyone location with
spacing requirements and a common design. Councilman Larson
stated it is basically a matter of negotiation to get the
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newspapers to agree. The City Attorney mentioned that some
of the large papers have attorneys that deal with news rack
issues only on a daily basis.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourned the workshop at 6:50 p.m.
Approved:
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Attest:
Seal Beach, California
April 8, 2002
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:00 p.m. with Mayor Doane calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Doane
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Larson, Yost
Absent:
None
Also present:
Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mr. Danes, Director of Public works/City
Engineer
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilman Yost requested that Item "0" be removed from the
Consent Calendar for separate consideration. Boyd moved,
second by Larson, to approve the order of the agenda as
revised.
With regard to taking action on the Lampson Avenue Paving
Project, Councilmember Campbell was advised that there was no
conflict with her voting on the item.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mayor Doane mentioned that the 10K Run was very successful,
it was a great day, good turnout, the Chamber and the
community worked hard to make it a success. With regard to
the discussions with Boeing relating to their future project,
Mayor Doane noted that the City worked closely with the
Boeing representative Gary powley and announced his sudden
passing this past week, the City will miss him as he was a
fine gentleman.
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PRESENTATIONS
PROCLAMATION
Mayor Doane read the "National Public Safety Dispatcher Week"
proclamation in full, recognizing same for the week of April
8th through the 14th, 2002, and presented the Proclamation to
Ms. Lisa Barr, supervisor, and Ms. Trish Glut, lead
dispatcher, at the West Comm Center.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Doane declared the Public Comment period to be open.
Mr. Charles Antos, Seal Beach, said he has been a planner for
thirty years, has worked in redevelopment, affordable
housing, an appointed member of the Orange County Housing
Authority, an appeals officer for the Authority, has dealt
with senior projects, a number of low income and senior type
issues. He stated that at present Seal Beach has
approximately sixty-five hundred or more low and moderate
income units in the City, that number has existed in each
census since 1970, at the prior meeting the Council, acting
as the Redevelopment Agency, approved a resolution for the
renovation of a four unit building at 1119 Ocean Avenue, his
understanding is that the terms of that will require that the
building be available for low and moderate income for a
period of twenty to twenty-five years and that this program
will likely be expanded citywide. Mr. Antos said he received
several calls relating to this matter, there may be a problem
that the City likely did not look at, all of the units in the
community that are eligible tend to be buildings that are
between thirty to fifty years old, this particular building
has four units on a twenty-five foot lot, today if that
property were vacant one house could be built on it,
typically the private market at some point has the older
buildings removed and replaced with something that is to
Code. The problem is that if the City enters into a
contractual agreement with someone and they are required to
provide four low and moderate units for twenty-five years,
that perpetuates non-conforming units for that period of
time, and offered the scenario that the occupants are out of
the building, the structure catches fire, burns down, the
owner then has the right to approach the City inasmuch as the
person has an obligation to provide four units on that
property therefore has a right to a building permit to
rebuild the four unit building, then the life of the new four
unit building is another forty to sixty years. Mr. Antos
concluded the only buildings that will be eligible under the
low/moderate income program are very old with many units,
that will pose a problem in the area, thought should be given
to this before it is done elsewhere in the community, or if
possible do not do this one. Mr. Jim Caviola, Ocean Avenue,
stated that the building that the City wants to turn into low
income housing is next to his house, the reason he built his
house was because it was R-l zoned. Mr. Caviola stated that
currently he has no representation, calls are not being
returned, there is a District Attorney investigation, there
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is a runoff election, the City has chosen to make this
decision, to make a decision to impact his property rights,
which is the foundation of what this country is about. If
the referenced investigation reaches indictment it is
ultimately a criminal act, it involved the sale of a trailer
park to a person through a limited partnership which had
previously purchased a deal in Laguna Beach, he has the
records, this is the same thing. Mr. Caviola said when he
and others remove concrete to plant trees at the expense of
the individual doing the improvement they are required to
notify the residents, he was not notified of the proposed
building improvements for low/moderate income people next to
him, not even a courtesy, why was there not a town hall
meeting, this matter is rent control, subsidized housing on a
three quarters of a million dollar property, property owners
have rights, also, you can not use the low/moderate housing
money outside the project area, this is an improper use of
redevelopment money, this is committal of $400,000, what
could the City build for $400,000, a lot more than four
units, this is irresponsible, it is thought that a lesson
would have been learned from the Trailer Park sale, under the
circumstances of the value of real estate, this kind of rent
control, subsidized, low income housing deserves at a minimum
a town hall meeting. He stated his belief that the City is
not informed enough to make an intelligent decision about the
powers of the Redevelopment Agency, personally he wants to
pay the debt and get rid of the Agency, no matter if there is
a penalty because the low/moderate monies have not been spent
for years. He stated there is no continuity of
representation in this City, proposition 40 is the largest
bond issue in the history United States, he personally flew
to Sacramento, met with the City's Assembly representative,
$2.6 billion yet there is no discussion about it, no grant
applications, but now the City is going to subsidize housing
with the residents tax money, what is the incentive for
people to work hard to buy property, this is a proposal to
give money to a limited partnership in Laguna Beach to
purchase a three quarter of a million dollar property under
the guise of helping the poor, this is the same kind of deal
as the Trailer Park. Mr. Caviola claimed that he had been
told that on April 22nd the Council would vote to have
citywide rent control, these are R-l zones and why values are
nice here, this needs to be thought out, this proposal will
do millions of dollars of damage to the value of the real
estate in this community. Councilman Yost asked that this
subject matter be placed on the next Agency agenda. Mr. Chi
Kredell, Seal Beach, agreed with the prior speaker, and
invited anyone who does not want low income housing in the
most expensive area of Seal Beach to come to the next Council
meeting. Mr. Kredell recalled there being an overflow
Council Chambers crowd when the rezoning of Old Town
properties was considered, at the time he was told that if a
twenty-five foot property were rezoned to single family it
would not work, that was late 1970's, in the first year
eighteen properties were built as single family dwellings,
since then the regulations have been diluted from twenty-five
feet in height to about thirty feet or higher with the
doghouses, also, duplexes are now going to single family not
the opposite, downtown is the most expensive area in all of
Seal Beach, why not have low/moderate housing in College Park
East or the Hill or Leisure World. The 1119 Ocean property
is worth a quarter of a million, does not even have adequate
parking for four units, it only has three parking spaces but
requires four, the description of the property says that the
contractor will put in balconies, stucco the outside for a
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price of about $10,000, it is said that $150,000 will be
spent on the upgrade, then where is the other $250,000,
understood too that the City will subsidize this property for
a minimum of twenty-five years. Mr. Kredell noted that some
seventy homes will be built on the Hellman land, where is the
low cost housing there, where is the low cost housing for
Centex homes, the Ocean Avenue property could be rebuilt for
$100 per square foot, it is not believed the building is even
four thousand square feet. Mr. Kredell said he does not know
where the Council gets the idea that it is alright to tread
on the downtown area.
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Ms. Laura Brecht, 6th Street, said as a member of the Long
Beach Yacht Club she wished to encourage people to turn out
to watch the Congressional Cup which takes place starting
Tuesday through Saturday off of the Belmont Pier, the ten top
skippers in the world. Ms. Brecht stated that she had
written a letter to the editor of the Sun newspaper a couple
of weeks ago in which she pointed out that this is the fifth
time Mr. Antos has run for the same position since 1986, many
old time residents remember September, 1983 when the then
City Manager terminated the planner for conflict of interest
for having a financial interest in a unit in the Seal Beach
Trailer Park which had an application pending for the
construction of a cabana for which the plans were processed
by Mr. Antos for approval by the Planning Commission. Ms.
Brecht showed a copy of a news article relating to that
issue. She noted that the termination was appealed, the City
agreed to drop the conflict of interest charges, reinstated
him so that could resign in November of 1983. Ms. Brecht
said it appears that her Council representative also has a
conflict of interest issue and has lent his support to Mr.
Antos, of interest is that both conflicts stemmed from the
Trailer Park. Ms. Sue Corbin, Seal Beach, asked that
something be done about the loudness of the street sweeper in
Old Town at 4:00 a.m. Ms. Corbin asked for ,an investigation
as to who has provided information from the personnel records
of Mr. Antos, who is in possession of them, how often this
has occurred, if the Police Chief does not want to do this
then hand the matter over to the District Attorney, the Grand
Jury, or the Attorney General, laws have been violated. It
also needs to be determined why people are going to
organizations that are not political action committees and
using them as an arm of the City to defeat a candidate, the
same group of people have done this for years. Ms. Corbin
claimed that the Council could very well be sued in their
individual capacities, the City does not pay for that, the
City Attorney needs to report any malfeasance, that is a
duty, it will be much more difficult if an outside agency
comes down on the City. She mentioned too that the newspaper
reported that candidate Pearce asked candidate Miller to
withdraw from the election, that is illegal, and candidate
Antos asked for a retraction, there is a legal and moral
obligation to give him that retraction.
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Ms. Joyce Parque, 6th Street, said as of last Thursday she
was informed of the Agency and Council approval of Resolution
Number 4992, she requested a form to appeal that approval and
was advised to address her concerns to the Council, her issue
is that when noticed in the newspaper it said nothing about
$400,000, it only said public improvements and facilities,
housing improvements, acquisitions, rehabilitation, deed
restriction of aging multi-family project, and asked if she
could appeal approval of the Resolution. The City Attorney
advised that there is no appeal process for these types of
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decisions of the Councilor Redevelopment Agency. Ms. Parque
stated no one in the City deserves that much power. With
regard to the Trailer Park said the people paid to have the
old trailers taken out so Riverbeach could be developed, the
people were told that was low income housing, now they are
told the City does not have that, either pay the penalty or
do the low/moderate housing, she would like to see the City
pay the penalty, again, no one deserves the power to tell the
people, without an appeal, why this has to be done. With
regard to the upcoming election, Ms. parque noted that
candidate Pearce is in favor of Section 8 housing, that is
rent control, and read a letter from candidate Pearce in
response to questions she had posed to the candidate, to that
Ms. parque said if that candidate is elected there will be
Section 8 housing and her hope is that it will be in every
neighborhood because the residents of Old Town do not deserve
this. It has been said that this property rehabilitation is
by a local developer yet it is known that is not true, he is
from Laguna Beach, said that the building is in need of
repair yet there are persons who pay rent there, and her
question is what are the federal guidelines for low income
since the City would be paying the difference.
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Mr. Gordon Shanks, Surf Place, announced that the Homeowners
Association will meet on April 11th at the Senior Center,
there will be a report from Boeing, there are always other
interesting topics to discuss, and candidates night will be
April 24th. Mr. Shanks said for years he has pointed out the
weaknesses and problems with redevelopment agencies, they
sound good but something always comes up, at some point the
State legislature will give agencies more thought. Ms. Reva
Olson, Seal Beach resident for over forty years, stated that
the people here are not ready for subsidized housing,
especially in Old Town where property is so expensive, over
the years people have worked hard for their properties, if
there is going to be subsidized housing the City should find
something less expensive than Old Town. Ms. Olson stated she
sat in on the Civil Service Board meetings relating to the
Antos matter, there was nothing to it, the then Manager and
Councilperson wanted him gone because he knew too much, and
now there is a need to have someone sitting on Council who
knows about planning. Mr. Walt Miller, Seal Beach, made
reference to the grass that has been planted in the parkways
on Seal Beach Boulevard, it is dying where there is
commercial traffic, he asked for staff to look at it, they
have not, he has sixty-two feet of grass, it is dying because
there is a preschool next to his property where drop-offs and
pickups are made, his request for concrete instead of grass
was turned down, asked for a handicapped ramp, that too was
turned down, there is such an effort to make the Boulevard a
residential street yet there is still commercial activity.
Again, he would like someone to look at the grass, he should
not be charged with having to keep the parkway green for his
neighbor's drop-offs, it is a City responsibility, she pays
taxes to the City for her business as does he. Mr. Greg
Miller, Sandpiper Bike Shop, said he believes that the people
of Seal Beach deserve more 'than what they are given, people
should see what the Council does while people are addressing
them, they do not listen, there is someone on Council that
rents, has no investment in the town, no one on Council cares
about the problems, there is dead grass on his street, the
City took care of it for ninety days, it was mowed and
watered two or three times a week, now they want, the
property/business owners to take care of it, this town is a
joke.
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Ms. Jane McCloud, Balboa Drive, made reference to the Orange
County Fire Authority, on March 28th the Board of Directors
felt they could only make a regulatory decision, the
representative from Dana Point, knowing they were going to
lose engines and volunteer units, tried to work on behalf of
Seal Beach to have a motion made whereby this community would
be able to retain one engine in Old Town as well as the role
of the volunteers for fires, rescue, as well as medical
emergencies. The majority of those who voted to accept the
OCFA regulatory changes felt they could not make a decision
on operations, only a decision on regulations, it was felt
that operations decisions were up to the Authority
themselves. She mentioned that the majority of those in
attendance and spoke at that meeting were from Seal Beach,
and in addition to the thirty some signatures in support of
this community that had been given to Council, by the time of
that meeting she had eight hundred thirty-six signatures,
about eight hundred of those were from Seal Beach, business
owners, employees, or residents, three hundred thirty were
residents of Leisure World, since then she has been getting
calls from various Leisure World groups asking her to speak,
they have great concerns with the decisions being made. Ms.
McCloud said given the fact that the members of the Council
voted unanimously to retain the volunteer program as it has
been in the past she would hope that the Council could begin
to initiate a quest to see what operational decisions can be
made so that there can be a similar program to what there has
been in the past, such program exists in villa Park, Sunset
Beach, Modjeska Canyon, Silverado Canyon, and one other area,
this community remains unique regardless of the changes,
there are bridges, the community is isolated in many areas,
and now only half the manpower that can deal with major
incidents of fire, etc. because help will be coming from out
of town and possibly not available to Seal Beach. She has
heard that there has been discussion with the Weapons Station
and their engine can be used if needed even though they need
to meet their Base needs first, also that there may be an
aerial truck placed at Beverly Manor but there is no staff,
and no longer can the City's most capable volunteers be that
staff. Again, Ms. McCloud requested that the Council
initiate some means of dealing with the operations issue and
the volunteer program, or will it be necessary to petition
for a ballot measure, her hope would be that it be at the
Council level. Ms. Beverly Pearce, Seal Beach, agreed that
the City lost its local control of the fire department when
it chose to go with the County, she has stated before that
she favors local control, but with that there comes a
responsibility to educate the public. She too has received a
number of calls regarding fire services and the property on
Ocean being declared for low/moderate income housing, she
believes that there is a place in this country to assist
seniors on fixed incomes, she does not mind that her tax
dollars are used for that, also believes that there is a
place for assisting low and moderate income people in Orange
County, an example of a moderate income person is a teacher
with a spouse that does not work and two children, her belief
is that they deserve to be renters in Seal Beach also, if
that is an unpopular belief then she apologizes, and she has
promised to tell the truth and let the people know where she
stands on issues, her fear is that by acting both during a
time when District One is a lame duck election that there is
a perception that decisions are being made regarding
districts that have no representation, the second problem is
that these are such complex issues, the General Plan has a
low and moderate income component, that is a necessity, as
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well as the Redevelopment Agency, and if the Agency were to
be disbanded, there would still be a component for low and
moderate income housing in the General Plan for the very
things that she supports, seniors on fixed income, people who
are ill, disabled, struggling young families, this is the
reason the law exists, the problem is with the action being
taken at this time. When these complex issues come up, like
the upcoming budget, it is important that the Council not
wait for the public to educate themselves or wait for the
little public announcements, some people simply do not
understand what they mean, the Council needs to be proactive
if one wants to be good City representatives, take the
message to the people in any way possible, if it means that
when the community is not in an election mode one needs to
continue to knock on doors, then that is what should be done,
if it means that the City needs to spend some money to buy
space in the newspaper to describe an issue, then possibly
that is what should be done, if it means letting people
register their e-mail addresses at City Hall so that more
information can be sent to them for free, maybe that should
be done, if there is a problem with not enough staff to do
that then the City should reach out to its volunteers, she
would like to see the City work harder at this, address all
of the issues to be best of ability. Ms. Pearce offered her
preference that rather than choosing a property in town, no
matter what district, perhaps look at getting back the
vouchers, set someone up to do a little housing authority
locally where tenants that already live in town could be
provided with assistance instead of bringing in new people.
In reference to the prior comments Ms. Seretta Fielding, Seal
Beach Boulevard, stated there is already a group of people in
place, she is the District One representative for the H/CD
program which years ago dealt with low/moderate income
housing. She suggested that since the city is mandated to do
this, that consideration be given to using the $400,000 to
assist people who are already in the community and who have
low to moderate income qualifications, think about how far
the $400,000 could be stretched, the local committee already
has a representative in place from each district and could
inform people in their district that there is money available
to assist them.
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Mr. Ron Stevenson, representing the Seal Beach Spoiled Dogs
Society, stated there was a bit of confusion after the last
meeting where there was a vote to deny the request for Zoeter
Field use based upon a change of law, the Society saw this as
somewhat of a victory in that they did not see the request as
a need to change the law to begin with, the transmitted
message as of this date reiterates the fact that in the
Recreation Guide dog obedience training takes place off-leash
at Marina Park, he has asked on a number of occasions that
the same permit that is used for Marina Park also be used as
a license for the Seal Beach Spoiled Dogs Society to use
Zoeter Field. Mr. Stevenson said he has attended three
meetings and has yet to hear anyone speak against their
request, for now he would ask that the City Attorney respond
to how the Society can get a permit similar to that for
Marina Park to allow the play by a group of individuals that
occurred for over two years without incident or violation, to
hopefully come to a quick decision for a trial period which
would allow the various issues that were brought up to be
tested, failing that there is, if need be, a law already on
the books of Orange County that in effect says that the City
Council has the ability to permit special usage of fields,
that is the way it is done in Huntington Beach for use of the
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water facilities. Mr. Stevenson expressed appreciation for
the time that has been spent, it has been six months since
they were asked to leave the Field for understandable reasons
to seek clarity for the use of the Field so that it is not in
conflict with law, that it is responsibly used at designated
times and hopefully provide a blueprint for how other
facilities can be maintained and utilized in the same
responsible manner.
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Ms. Mary Michaelian, Aster Street, stated she was present to
address the tree issue on Aster, Basswood, and Candleberry,
initially she had a petition of one hundred plus names which
was submitted to the City Manager, also, nine persons in
addition to the Manager, Mr. Eagle, and herself met and spoke
to the issue of keeping the trees. She mentioned that they
now have the opportunity to stand by the paper drop-off bin
at the corner of Aster and Almond where most everyone
delivering papers signed a paper to save the trees, one
person who happens to be in this room did not and could not
sign, there are many more signatures in addition to the
hundred therefore it seems to her that there are more people
in favor of keeping the trees than destroying them. Ms.
Michaelian mentioned that it was initially said there was a
root rot problem, to that she had asked for a horticulturist
opinion, in the first meeting with the Manager she had been
informed that such a report would have more authority than
the two arborist reports, the arborist reports were provided
by two condominium residents who had obtained the reports on
their own, in her opinion they could have been biased, the
horticulturist determined that a pathological chemical
analysis could be done of each tree which would determine if
there was in fact a root rot problem, there needs to be that
testing, if every other tree were to be taken out and if
found to have the root rot how could one expect that the
every other tree that they are trying to leave in place does
not have the same problem. The other issue was fire blight
which is said to be common to this particular flowering pear
tree, it often goes untreated but does not cause the demise
of the tree, it can be treated, the fire blight branches can
be cut out, or sprayed, it seems there is no evidence of fire
blight yet if it were so one would see the brown leaves or
branches falling onto the parkway, which is not seen, not
even with a recent high wind. ,She commented that the trees
currently look healthier than ever, and it seems that by
allowing them to grow up and out, according to the initial
memo it was recommended that spacing be provided because they
wanted the trees to lace out and then trim the trees, they
have not been trimmed but they have laced out as was
requested for a crowned effect. Ms. Michaelian said she was
interested in knowing how the trees to be removed were
chosen, on the corner of Candleberry there are three trees,
two are marked to be destroyed, one is being kept, staff
stated that a sapling tree would be planted next to the
mature tree, why would they not want to keep two mature trees
rather than a mature tree and a small tree, it was stated
also that the trees could be pushed over, but she feels that
may apply to only a couple of trees. She mentioned that any
tree could fall and cause a liability, but that is only a
potential, there is a more current liability with some of the
streets, Birchwood an example, where there are large cracks
where if children on bikes get their wheel inside the gully
they could in fact fall in the front of a car, to her that is
a current liability, the potential liability of a tree
falling over does not seem to be evident at this point in
time. Ms. Michaelian said when she called the Manager to
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establish a meeting she was informed that the permit had
already been signed to take out the trees, she was informed
too that it had already been discussed, at that point she
called her Council representative to have this issue placed
on the agenda, why would the Manager have the authority to
remove fifty percent of the trees, they are beautiful, in
many parts of the country trees are placed close together,
they do not fall over, have root rot, that seems to be a
problem that does not need to be addressed at this point.
She asked that if it is necessary to evaluate each tree that
it be done before trees are cut down so that the beauty and
integrity of the causeway can be maintained in this parkway
as there are only a few parkways. Ms. Maria Coles, Birchwood
Avenue, confirmed that Birchwood is dangerous, with holes,
cracks, etc., it is a liability, she walks the area, when she
arrives home in the evening she often travels the left lane
because of knowing of the danger, yet there are youth in the
neighborhood who often pay no attention to speed limits, and
requested that Birchwood be considered for repaving. Mr.
Artie Gilkins, Old Ranch Townhomes, said his concern is with
the liability, his understanding is that in 1975 when the
townhomes were built one of the requirements was that the
condominium association would maintain the trees, the parkway
belongs to the City, he believes, the trees belong to the City
yet the association is responsible for the trimming. He
noted that the problem has come up that the trees are
diseased, are root rotted, he personally found three trees
that are moveable, they could likely be saved if the trees
are staked and wired, yet if they are a problem they should
be taken out so they do not fall. Mr. Gilkins stated that
two meetings have been held at the townhomes, the first
attended by fifteen couples who are residents of the
townhomes, the second was five or six residents, at the first
meeting the, Board determined to remove every other tree, the
question is how does one know whether it is a good or bad
tree, they may be pretty yet is this right from a liability
standpoint. Mr. Gilkins said his recommendation would be to
remove any and all trees that are clear and health proven
liabilities to the City and College Park East, and do it in a
proper way, do not remove any tree that need not be removed,
have the City take over the control of the trimming of those
trees, have the City make the decision on any removal or
repairs utilizing appropriate services.
Mr. Nate Kranda, 5th Street, spoke to the fire services
issues, expressed appreciation to all who came forward to
speak for the volunteer program, the problem is the people in
other communities do not understand this City, it is not
certain where Seal Beach wants to go at this point with
regard to maintaining volunteer fire services in Seal Beach,
the public needs to get used to seeing fire trucks from other
cities in the community, an example was Saturday evening with
two back to back calls, he would hope the Council would
request the City Attorney to look into the contract with the
Orange County Fire Authority, having lived in this community
his entire life the volunteer fire program has been like an
unwritten rule. Mr. Kranda noted that Seal Beach is
surrounded by other large departments, Huntington Beach and
Long Beach as examples, there may be other things to be
looked at, it is hoped that the fire contract will be looked
at for possible violations with the removal of the volunteer
program. There being no other comments, Mayor Doane declared
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with regard to the Redevelopment Agency issue and notice,
Councilman Yost asked what is the required notice for
something like the 1119 Ocean matter, is something in the
newspaper all that is required and how can it be changed if
something is proposed to occur in close proximity to another
persons property. The City Attorney responded that staff
fully complied with the legal requirements for notice, it is
believed that for the April 22nd meeting there may be
additional notice, the Agency always has the ability to
supplement the State law required notices with additional
noticing. Councilman Yost likened this issue to the Seal
Beach Boulevard proposed name change to Bay Street without
notification, to him it is better to notify people ahead of
time as to what is transpiring, his request would be to
notice anyone who would be affected prior to the next
meeting, with regard to the multi-family unit that was
proposed to be funded for upgrade, given the testimony at
this meeting is there any recourse to change the initial
decision of the Council. The City Attorney advised that
unlike a quasi-judicial hearing for a Conditional Use Permit
where once the Council makes a decision the only recourse is
to go to court, the decision reached by the Agency and
Council could be reviewed, contracts have to be implemented,
therefore the issue is not finalized at this time, if the
Council would like further information staff can be directed
to provide that. Councilman Yost requested that that be so
directed. The Director of Development Services confirmed
that there will be two items on the April 22nd Agency agenda,
one is consideration of the AB 1290 Implementation Plan, a
requirement of the Redevelopment Agency, whereby it needs to
be indicated how the Agency anticipates spending its
low/moderate income housing funds over the next five year
period, in addition it was anticipated to come back to the
Agency at that meeting with program guidelines for assistance
to persons throughout the community to upgrade existing
residential units, owner occupied and renter occupied, this
is similar to the program that was brought to the Council
some four years ago where a major part of that was FHA Title
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program, that took a major component away from the City, and
confirmed that program was through Civic Stone. Councilman
Larson mentioned that in two months there will be a new
member of the City Council, in his opinion any of these major
issues that are going to be decided should wait until that
person takes office, they may agree with what is being put
forth or have an idea for something different, and some of
this affects District One where the election will take place.
Councilman Yost agreed, or if decisions are made there needs
to be an understanding that they can be undone.
Councilmember Campbell expressed belief that there are a
number of issues relating to the Redevelopment Agency that
people are not aware of, Leisure World as an example does not
qualify as low and moderate housing stock because existing
housing stock is not looked at, rather, it is new
construction, the penalty needs to be explained, and to do
away with the Redevelopment Agency does not remove the
requirement for low to moderate housing, that is mandated by
the State. The City Manager stated that this item came
before the Council on January 28th at which time this issue
was discussed, as of June 30, 2002 the Redevelopment Agency
setaside fund will have excess funds that are going to be
subject to a fifty percent penalty, the total excess funds as
of that date are $534,000 therefore if the excess funds are
not encumbered or spent by June 30th, at this point a member
of the audience interrupted and claimed the explanation by
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the Manager was a violation of the Brown Act. The City
Attorney clarified that the Brown Act allows the Council and
public to ask questions of staff however if it gets to a
point of discussion the issue must be placed on the agenda,
if the Council feels this is reaching a point of discussion
it should be placed on the next meeting agenda. Councilman
Boyd suggested that the decision on the Housing
Implementation Plan should be postponed until after his
Council seat is filled, therefore the item should be
continued.
APPOINTMENT - SEAL BEACH CABLE COMMUNICATIONS FOUNDATION
Councilmember Campbell moved to appoint Mr. Fred Furman as
the District Four appointee to the Seal Beach Cable
Communications Foundation for the unexpired two year term
ending July, 2002. Councilman Larson seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 8:26 p.m. The Council reconvened at
8:39 p.m. with Mayor Doane calling the meeting to order.
CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "c thru P"
Larson moved, second by Boyd, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented, except
for Item "0", removed for separate consideration.
C.
waived the reading in full of all
ordinances and resolutions and that
consent to the waiver of reading shall
be deemed to be given by all
Councilmembers after reading of the
title unless specific request is made
at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
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D. Approved regular demands numbered 36825
through 37052 in the amount of $1,242,097.22,
payroll demands numbered 15515 through 15665
in the amount of $172,546.53, and authorized
warrants to be drawn on the Treasury for same.
E. Received and filed the Monthly Investment
Report for January, 2002.
F. Approved the proposal for Special District
Administration of Street Lighting
Maintenance District No. 1 for fiscal year
2002/2003 for the annual fee of $9,500
payable quarterly.
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Adopted Resolution Number 4993 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING A
BUDGET AMENDMENT," (additional cell phone,
Public Works). By unanimous consent, full
reading of Resolution Number 4993 was waived.
H. Bids were received until 10:00 a.m., March
27, 2002 for a Traffic Signal Fiber Optic
Interconnect, Project ,Number 50011, at
which time they were publicly opened by
the City Clerk as follows:
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Broadband powering Systems,
Inc. $300,274.00
C. T. & F., Inc. 309,800.00
Moore Electrical Contracting,
Inc. 318,805.00
Inspection Engineering
Construction
Baxter-Griffin Co., Inc.
Lambco Engineering, Inc.
Benergy, Inc.
ProTech Engineering Corp.
Dynalectric
Herman Weissker, Inc.
327,581.56
343,100.00
348,885.00
350,960.00
385,542.50
389,034.00
469,476.00
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Awarded the bid for Project Number 50011,
Traffic Signal Fiber Optic Interconnect,
to the lowest responsible bidder, Broadband
Powering Services, Inc. in the amount of
$300,274.00 and authorized the City Manager
to execute the contract on behalf of the
City.
I. Bids were received until 11:00 a.m., March
27, 2002 for Lampson Avenue Pavement
Rehabilitation (Seal Beach Boulevard to
east City limits), Project No. 50010 and
50013, at which time they were publicly
opened by the City Clerk as follows:
All American Asphalt
R J Noble Co.
Griffith Company
Silvia Construction, Inc.
Sully-Miller Contracting Co.
Excel Paving Company
Shawnan
HPD, Inc.
So. CA Underground
Contractors
$ 840,463.15
955,429.00
972,112.75
1,031,979.50
1,044,054.00
1,086,455.35
1,111,111.11
1,123,342.50
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Awarded the bid for the Lampson Avenue
Pavement Rehabilitation, Project No. 50010
and 50013, to All American Asphalt, the
lowest responsible bidder, in the amount
of $840,463.15 and authorized the City
Manager to execute the contract on behalf
of the City.
Adopted Resolution Number 4994 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED
AS TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT
#49813 AND #50062, ALLEY UTILITY'REPLACEMENT
PROGRAM (WATER AND SEWER), 13th/14th AND 14th/
15th ALLEYS, ENTERED INTO BETWEEN MAJICH
BROTHERS, INC. AND THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH."
By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolution Number 4994 was waived.
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K. Adopted Resolution Number 4995 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING THE CLOSURE OF THE
NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TURN POCKETS LOCATED
AT THE MAIN STREET/PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY
INTERSECTION." By unanimous consent, full
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reading of Resolution Number 4995 was waived.
L. Approved the minutes of the regular adjourned
and regular meetings of December 10, 2001.
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NOES:
Adopted Resolution Number 4996 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE ~ITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECITING THE
FACTS OF THE PRIMARY AND SPECIAL ELECTIONS
HELD IN THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH ON THE 5th
DAY OF MARCH, 2002, DECLARING THE RESULTS
THEREOF, AND SUCH OTHER MATTERS AS PROVIDED
BY LAW." By unanimous consent, full reading
of Resolution Number 4996 was waived.
Adopted Ordinance Number 1484 entitled "AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, CALLING AND
GIVING NOTICE OF THE HOLDING OF A GENERAL
MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY
ON TUESDAY, MAY 14th, 2002, FOR THE ELECTION
OF CERTAIN OFFICERS OF THE CITY AS REQUIRED
BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH" and
Adopted Resolution Number 4997 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, REQUESTING THE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF
ORANGE TO RENDER SPECIFIED SERVICES TO THE
CITY RELATING TO THE CONDUCT OF A GENERAL
MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY
ON TUESDAY, MAY 14th, 2002" and
Adopted Resolution Number 4998 entitled "A
,RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, ORDERING THAT
THE CANVASS OF THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION
TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, MAY 14th, 2002, BE MADE
BY THE CITY CLERK."
By unanimous consent, full reading of Ordinance
Number 1484, Resolution Number 4997, and
Resolution Number 4998 was waived.
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Authorized the Mayor to sign the comment
letter relating to the Haynes Generating
Station Repowering Project Draft EIR,
instructed staff to forward same to the
Los Angeles Department of Water and Power,
directed that the letter and staff report
be forwarded to the Environmental Quality
Control Board, Planning Commission,
Archaeological Advisory Committee, and the
Golden Rain Foundation for information
purposes, and that the staff report be
received and filed.
Boyd, campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "0" - ARCHAEOLOGICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE - VACANCY
Noting the District Three vacancy on the Archaeological
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Advisory Committee, Councilman Yost requested that any
qualified person having an interest in serving on this
Committee to please contact him. Yost moved, second by
Campbell, to receive and file the memorandum from staff.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None Motion carried
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TREE REMOVAL PERMIT - OLD RANCH TOWNHOMES
The City Manager ,explained that when permits for various
matters are approved by the City Manager, in this case tree
removals, that decision is final in that the Code does not
provide for an appeal to the City Council. He emphasized
that City did not go looking for this problem it was the
Homeowners Association that approached the City. In this
case the permit has not yet been signed, this item was
agendized at the request of Councilmember Campbell to allow
review of the preliminary decision to go forward with the
plan, again, this is not an appeal of the decision. The
Manager reported that in October of 2001 the City received a
letter from the Old Ranch Homeowners Association with a
request to remove the trees for the reasons that they are too
close together, have root rot, fire blight, have been pruned
incorrectly, their belief was that the trees have been
weakened and it would be better to take some out so that they
could grow into a healthy state. He noted that the CC&R's
provide that the Homeowners Association are responsible for
the repair and maintenance fronting their property, that
provision has existed since 1975. As requested by the City,
the Association did provide two arborist reports, copies of
which are in the agenda packets, they rather than a
horticulturist usually do such examination of trees. The
Manager mentioned that in February they commenced marking the
trees, this issue came about, the removal was postponed as it
was learned that the Homeowners Association had not notified
all of its members as well, as some other issues, the process
was suspended March 7th, the Association was required to hold
a community meeting to discuss the issue of the trees, to
notify all of the residents, about thirty people attended
along with Mr. Eagle, that is how a consensus plan was
arrived at. He noted that under the original plan about
twenty-eight trees were to be removed for a net of twenty
trees in the parkway, under the revised plan twenty-three
trees will be removed and six trees added for a net of
thirty-one, therefore there will be more trees than under the
initial proposal, the Board of Directors have agreed to the
revised plan as have certain residents of the area via
letter. Mayor Doane noted a number of comments heard about
removal of possibly healthy trees because of the every other
tree plan, he has personally had problems with his Mutual
Board given the excessive pruning that in his opinion is
unnecessary, he too does not like to see beautiful, healthy
trees taken out, and can understand the position of those who
have spoken to this issue. Councilman Yost said he too
looked at the trees, to him they appeared to be healthy, he
did not see canopies even touching, nor did they appear to be
excessively pruned, therefore he was having a problem with
this issue, yet is also not an expert in the matter.
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Mr. Bob Eagle, Public Works Supervisor, explained that when
the Association Board came to the City they had been taking
care of these trees since 1975, they are planted seventeen
feet apart, in the past three years the City has been sent to
the area on several occasions because of trees that had
fallen, in each instance that occurred because the roots had
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rotted, since these trees were never cared for by the City
when a tree fell they were not replaced. From his observance
over the years he pointed out that the trees have been
trimmed with hedge trimmers instead of using International
Society of Horticulturist Association standards for trimming
trees, the canopy has been kept a certain way, the root
system is not strong enough to uphold a tree that is trimmed
properly, if one looks inside the trees all of the growth is
at the ends of the branches and the inside is just bark, that
is called horsetailing a tree, if the trees were trimmed
properly two things would happen, there would be natural
looking trees and for the trees to grow to a larger size they
need to establish a better root system, if they continue to
be hedge trimmed the fire blight will spread. Mr. Eagle
stated the trees should no longer be hedge trimmed, and as
the fire blight becomes apparent, which does exist, that
should be trimmed out properly by a certified arborist or a
firm that has a certified arborist on staff, when fire blight
is trimmed out the tools need to be cleaned so that the
blight does not spread, by using a hedge trimmer the blight
will eventually spread throughout the tree leaving bare,
spotty areas, last year mid-summer there were large spots of
fire blight, now the trees are fairly full but there will be
more blight given the trimming practices, and according to
the CC&R's the Association is supposed to be caring for those
trees. Mayor Doane said then corrective action on the part
of the Association could be an alternative. Acknowledging
that the responsibility for these trees lies with the
Association, Councilman Boyd inquired however if these trees
in a public parkway were the responsibility of the City would
the recommendation be removal or some other alternative. Mr.
Eagle responded that he would only remove the unhealthy
trees, he would look at the tree structure and the root
system to determine what would be possible, they should be
larger trees than they are, some have a trunk of about ten
inches in diameter, the parkway is large enough to support a
larger tree, pear trees can have a span and height of twenty-
five feet, these trees do not. - Councilman Boyd mentioned
that it is the responsibility of the City Manager to make a
recommendation and issue the permit for removal, and
confirmed that this was done after the arborist reports
recommended removal, a part of the policy for trimming trees
as well.
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Councilmember Campbell moved to save the trees, that is what
her residents prefer. Councilman Yost seconded the motion.
Councilmember Campbell said usually one looks at trees in
someone's lawn and give deference to whose lawn they are in,
in this case it would be deference to the residents of the
townhomes, this is a large number of trees, their appearance
is very striking, at present it is felt that they add beauty
to the development, if they are allowed to lace out in a
couple of years possibly only a couple will,need to be
removed, and inquired if it would be detrimental to the trees
to allow them to grow. Mr. Eagle stated the type of trimming
they have received is his concern, a certain look is
anticipated when they are trimmed like a hedge, that look
will not be there if they are trimmed according to standards,
for the health of the trees he would not suggest hedge
trimming again, there is a distinct possibility that some
trees may do well, others may not, what the Association is
trying to do is eliminate a few of the trees to allow the
remaining trees more room for the root structure to develop.
Councilman Larson posed a question that even if some are
removed, the rest remain but continue to be hedge trimmed
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nothing will be gained. The response was that the fire
blight will spread and there will be no foliage in the trees.
Mayor Doane made reference to the staff report which put
forth the question as to whether the City should accept the
maintenance of the trees, the cost of which would be
approximately $1,000 per year, additional future costs to
remove diseased trees, repair raised sidewalks, and liability
for falling trees would be encountered as well, to that he
said that could be discussed at budget time which would mean
the Manager would need to hold the issuance of the permit,
his intent is to appease what seems to be a majority of
residents of the area that do not want these trees removed if
there is a feasible way they can be saved, this with the
insight provided by Mr. Eagle. Councilman Yost said if the
Homeowners Association is responsible for maintaining the
trees pursuant to the CC&R's, he wonders how much money they
spend to do that, perhaps they would be willing to contract
with the City to perform that service, possibly make them an
offer. The Manager concurred with the suggestion of the
Mayor to hold this issue in abeyance until budget
considerations, that would provide more time to look at the
long term maintenance, what it would cost, have the City's
arborist look at the trees, $1,000 is likely a guess at this
point, no motion is necessary, staff has an understanding of
the direction of Council by the comments made. To a question
as to the responsibility of the sidewalks, the Public Works
Director responded that the concrete curb, gutters, and
sidewalks, if in the street right-of-way, which is believed
they are, would be the City, except in accordance with the
Streets and Highways Code one can enjoin a property owner to
fix their sidewalk. To that Councilman Boyd said possibly
that is something that should be considered, it is fine if
those residents want to save the trees yet do not make it
onerous upon the City to repair the sidewalk, curb and gutter
if the trees raise or break them. Councilmember Campbell
noted that no motion is requested, however asked then where
do the trees stand. The City Manager responded that the
permit will not be issued, additional research will be done
on the long term tree locations, his concern is that there is
a tendency of the City to assume responsibility for projects
once they are run down completely and then have to spend
money to rehabilitate them, therefore staff will take a
further look at the costs, bring that back during budget
considerations, it will then be a budgetary decision of the
Council. Councilman Yost made reference to the trees on the
Bixby project whereby due to improper trimming led to them
not being healthy, he would not like to see that mistake
again, and asked who will be responsible for the trees in the
Bixby Center and will there be some control so that they are
maintained properly. The response was that will be an
assessment district to be done in the near future.
Councilman Boyd stated that this sets a bad precedent whereby
the City is taking on the responsibility of private property
owners maintenance of a piece of property that is within the
public right-of-way, what should have happened years ago when
the Homeowners Association was formed is that the curbs,
gutters, sidewalks, and improvements in the public right-of-
way should have been required to be maintained to certain
standards that the City established when the development was
done, what could be done now to correct this would be to
negotiate with the Homeowners Association to turn over the
improvements and let them do as they choose, this is going to
pose problems, it sets a precedent whereby every time an
issue comes up or someone has a tree they want to be trimmed
or not trimmed those people will come before the Council,
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this belongs in the jurisdiction of the Homeowners
Association inasmuch as they have the responsibility for the
public right~of-way. Councilmember Campbell countered that
this is fifty trees of which seventeen are proposed to be
taken out, this is a look to that street that is being
impacted, and as was pointed out the removal was designed to
be every other tree yet in some cases it is not necessarily
going to be every other tree, the uniform'look will be lost
when one drives down the street. Councilman Boyd stated that
is all the more reason that those who live there should be
making the decisions as to how those trees are trimmed and
maintained. To that Councilmember Campbell noted that the
trees are in the public right-of-way, then who is the public,
just the people who live in the townhomes or those who live
on the opposite side of the street and have a view of the
trees, the trees are pleasant to look at, softens the look of
the townhomes, a plus for the neighborhood and property
values. A consensus was indicated to hold this item over
until the budget hearings.
BUDGET WORKSHOPS - FISCAL YEARS 2002/03 and 2003/04
The City Manager presented a brief staff report citing
proposed dates for budget workshops as well as the date of
the public hearing and final date for budget adoption. Yost
moved, second by Campbell, to approve budget workshops for
May 29 and 30, June 12 and 13, and June 17 and 18 commencing
at 6:00 p.m.
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NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
None
Boyd Motion carried
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PUBLIC HEARING / RESOLUTION NUMBER 4999 - APPEAL - MINOR PLAN
REVIEW 02-1 - 233 SEAL BEACH BOULEVARD - RAOUF
Mayor Doane declared the public hearing open to consider an
appeal of the Planning Commission approval of Minor Plan
Review 02-1. The City Clerk certified that notice of the
public hearing had been advertised and mailed as required by
law, and reported no communications received. The Director
of Development Services presented the staff report, explained
that the appeal under consideration is to Planning Commission
approval of a Minor Plan Review of the property identified as
233 Seal Beach Boulevard, the application is to develop two
separate buildings on three separate lots at that location,
basically office use on the ground floor with residential use
above on the north and south parcels, the center parcel to be
used as a common driveway and parking area for the office
uses and with garages provided off the alley for the
residential uses. He noted that the application was
submitted in February, considered by the Planning Commission
on March 20th, the item was removed from the Commission
Consent Calendar and the appellant in this matter spoke to
the item at that time, the staff report, minutes, letter
submitted by the appellant, and Commission Resolution are
included with the Council report. The Director reported also
that a copy of the appeal and addendum to the appeal has been
provided to Council, the staff report attempts to address
each of the issues brought forth by the appellant in the
appeal and addendum. The Director explained that the
project, as presented to the Planning Commission, complied
with all requirements of the Limited Commercial Zone as far
as development standards.
Councilman Yost noted that the height limit on the
residential is thirty feet with three stories, and inquired
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if that is permitted on a twenty-five foot lot. The Director
advised that it is permitted in the L/C zone, that the only
zone that allows a third story on a residential lot of that
width, on other lots in Old Town one is allowed to go to a
third story on lots of thirty-seven and a half feet or
larger, and only on the rear half of the lot. The Director
confirmed that this proposal is covered in the Municipal Code
under the Minor Plan Review process.
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Mayor Doane invited the appellant, applicant, and public to
comment on this item if so desired. Mr. Walt Miller, Seal
Beach, displayed a diagram of the proposed project, said he
found it a strange thing that he paid his appeal fee to say
that the staff has not followed the City ordinance, the
Council has no training in architecture, engineering, or
construction, therefore relies on staff. Mr. Miller noted it
was said there are three twenty-five foot lots, but it is a
seventy-five foot lot because every lot in Old Town is a
twenty-five foot lot, ,subdivided into thirty, thirty-seven
and a half, etc. lots, they are building sites, to that he
made reference to the three lots, one considered to be a
twenty-five foot lot, the next complies with a twenty-five
foot lot, and the third he claimed to be setback, stating
that this design with the residence above the dental office
can not possibly be built on the twenty-five foot lot, an
impossibility according to the Code which basically says that
six parking spaces are needed for the commercial and two
spaces for the residential, to that he asked where are the
parking spaces, if all six of the spaces can not be put on
that lot then you must look at the full seventy-five foot
width. Mr. Miller claimed that the property owner can not
build on the third twenty-five foot lot in the L/C zone,
asked for an opinion as to whether it is legal to consider it
a twenty-five foot lot on a seventy-five foot parcel and
additionally say that the parking is not required to be on
that lot. The City Attorney advised the appellant that when
the presentation is concluded and the public hearing closed
he would respond to questions of the Council. Mr. Miller
said if the question is not answered now he would not be able
to rebut the response. Mr. Miller continued with reference
to the garage at the property line, there is an eight foot
wall on that property line, yet the Code says that can be
done in the L/C zone if it sits on a side street, that makes
sense because the fire department can then service the side
of the property, the only way to service the property now is
to go down a three foot wide section and not come in from the
back, according to staff a mistake was made so they are going
to change the Code because this is okay according to Code, to
that Mr. Miller claimed it is not, it is a fire hazard, this
is supposed to be set back seven and a half feet for a
seventy-five foot lot, the trash enclosure for commercial,
staff says it can be placed in front of the compact spaces
but it can not because the trash truck comes down the alley.
He mentioned too that people will pull in to park their cars,
supposedly they can then back out, if three of the spots are
filled they do not know that when they enter, three can not
be used because people are coming in from the opposite
direction, staff says they can make a u-turn and back out,
but because there is only three feet either way they will
bump into the building, there are also four spaces in the
back, someone comes down the alley to use those spaces, two
compact and two standard spaces, if they are full what does
the next car do. Mr. Miller said the alley is twelve feet
wide, a car is six feet wide, other vehicles are eight feet,
this is a one-way alley, the parking makes no sense. He
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mentioned too that he owns the property next door, his
property, the properties on either side, and this property is
in a flood zone, when one builds in a flood zone the floor
must be raised, in this case it is designed with no raised
floor, when a floor is raised that in turn requires
handicapped access, that has not been done, staff knows this
can not be built on this lot. He noted that condition five
states that if any of these lots are sold, each described as
twenty-five foot lots, parking would need to be provided on-
site on the remaining lot, so how could six parking spaces be
placed on this lot, how can that be done unless the one lot
is left open, but if that lot is sold something has to be
torn down to provide the parking. Mr. Miller said this is
not the kind of project that is being seen as a keystone
project in the L/C zone. Mayor Doane stated that at the
close of the hearing staff would provide answers to the
questions of Mr. Miller, to that Mr. Miller said he wanted to
interact with staff.
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Mr. Richard Stupin, architect on behalf of the applicant,
stated they have met with staff and have tried to determine
what could be placed on this property, a thought was given to
residential yet it was zoned L/C. He offered that most of
the items brought up by Mr. Miller he did not really
understand, they are three separate twenty-five foot lots.
He mentioned that there is parking on the three lots, which
is true, the way in which it is done there will be a deed
restriction where none of the lots can be sold unless it
conforms to the parking requirements which means it can not
be sold unless it is all torn down and reconstructed, the
deed restriction will tie the properties to the way it is
now, so the parking will always exist. The garage wall was
mentioned as being on the property line, in the L/C zone that
was allowed, his is to the property line on both sides, so
access to fire is restricted on his property, the L/C did not
have a specific requirement for trash, with approval of the
plans something will be worked out, it is not unapproachable,
with regard to parking and backing out, the new homes,
existing homes and apartments all back out, the accident rate
in the area is not known but thought to not be high, the
twelve foot alley was mentioned, they are setback thirteen
feet which gives a twenty-five foot turning radius before
parking, the flood zone issue will be taken care of at the
time of the engineering plans, they have a civil engineer for
the grading plans, it is not a problem to raise the floor if
required, to that he said he believed all of Mr. Miller's
concerns were addressed.
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Mr. Greg Miller offered his speaking time to Mr. Walt Miller.
The City Attorney stated that was within the discretion of
the Council. Mr. Walt Miller said in reference to the twelve
foot alley, granted there is a turning radius, his point was
that two cars can not run in opposite direction down the
alley, it is not a commercial alley, if there is a car
inbound to park and another car leaving, the Coastal
Commission will not accept that yet the City does, that is a
real problem, a problem also with architecture, what kind, no
one cares, anything goes, the cheapest way possible to build
the properties. Mr. Miller stated that if one looks at the
drawings they are not signed, there is no license, is this
person a designer, architect, an engineer, putting a scale on
the dental office it shows a handicapped bathroom with a five
foot turning radius except that the handicapped person will
need to go through a three foot door, through the doctors
office to get to the handicapped restroom. This is an office
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with the public going in and out, no supply rooms, this is an
attempt to put something on a nineteen foot wide lot, the
person said if this is a flood plain they will raise the
floor, yet he had to raise his floor thirty inches, that
means two and a half feet of rise on a handicapped ramp,
where will that go, there is no way for a handicapped person
to come off the street and get to this office at all, running
a wheelchair into traffic backing up, the applicant said that
the traffic backs up, it is a thirty-five mile an hour speed
zone, there is parking that blocks the view of on-coming
traffic, to all of this Mr. Miller said there are too many
Code violations that are wrong, this should be set back in
accordance with the lot size, it is not a twenty-five foot
lot, it is a seventy-five foot lot, none of this will fit on
a twenty-five foot lot with the required parking, it has been
infringed on throughout. Mr. Miller stated this project
should be redesigned, he favors building on the Boulevard but
this project is not the proper answer, he would like answers
and a legal opinion, staff is making decisions on twenty-five
foot lots that are not twenty-five feet, it is a seventy-five
foot lot, that is what it takes to build on this site the way
it is laid out, to have anything less than full compliance,
including the setbacks is wrong.
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Ms. Sue Corbin, Seal Beach, objected to having speakers for
and against an issue, some people just want to speak to the
item. Ms. Corbin stated she would like to see the applicant
be able to do something with his property, yet does this meet
the Code, maybe the plan should be sent back and redone,
something about the plan just does not look right, Mr. Miller
could not build because of the stringent conditions, there
must be a level playing field. She said whether they decide
to proceed with this or not, possibly something can be
learned, the way things are approved, things that do not meet
Code, the City needs a real engineer, and made reference to
Los Alamitos where she claimed they combined the positions of
City Engineer and Development Services Director, someone who
has the talent for both, to her that makes sense, and apply
the Code equally to all people.
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Dr. Medhat Raouf stated he was the applicant, he owns the
subject three lots, the previous owner had planned to build
on one or all lots, he obtained the property approximately
four years ago, since then he has tried to achieve his goal
of having his dental office at this location however found
that no financial institution would loan on the L/C zoning,
he then canceled the project for a time then placed the
property on the market for sale for about two years, he found
however a sale was not workable for the same reason, the L/C
zoning, so he had the idea to have a second office here, he
had planned to demolish the property, he has tried to keep
peace with everyone, comply with everyone, at one point Mr.
Miller said this property had been used for everyone to park,
he had an idea to try to make a project out of the property
to just cover expenses by landscaping the property and not
let it be used by the public, at that time he did not know
that would hurt another neighbor, in response to that he said
he told Mr. Miller that he had given verbal agreement for
that neighbor to park on the property, evidently that raised
an issue but he could not imagine that this would make Mr.
Miller unfriendly to him and object to his project, he even
went forward with the L/C zoning to gain his acceptance, it
was his last thought that he would even object to the L/C,
Mr. Miller is trying to make the three lots into one lot, it
is not, he made certain with the City that they are three
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lots, he is not certain what else could have been done, he is
doing everything to be in compliance with the Codes, to make
everything move smoothly, he needs to get something good out
of his investment other than to have the gardener every two
weeks for the sake of Mr. Miller. Mr. Raouf said no matter
the decision, he is in need of doing something with his three
lots. Ms. Seretta Fielding, Seal Beach Boulevard, said the
discussion is again the 200 block of Seal Beach Boulevard, it
should not be commercial or L/C but that is what it is
presently. Ms. Fielding said by the words of Mr. Miller it
was said that the alley is not a commercial alley, as time
has passed this property has been neglected and overlooked,
the applicant is trying to do a project that is a good
project, will certainly look better than the vacant lot, this
project will eventually make the Boulevard look better, it
may not be perfect but it is the best that can be done with
all that there is to deal with, that is the L/C on the
Boulevard, the residential overlay has not emerged as yet
even though back in 1983 the Planning Commission recommended
a residential component. Ms. Fielding again said this
project is basically all the applicant can do with this
property, there are no options, no one is looking at the 200
block properties because there is no money available under
the L/C commitment, she would hope, since he is financing his
own project, that consideration is given this project.
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Mr. Walt Miller said what he has heard is that Dr. Raouf has
good intentions to build something, he too wants him to build
something, he just wants it to be the start of something that
works on this street, something that is in compliance with
the Building Codes, something that will give continuity, the
fact that he has had the property for a while, has to make
payments on it, do the landscaping, that gives no one the
right to do something other than comply with the Codes. Mr.
Miller said he is merely asking that the project be
redesigned so that it complies with the L/C designation and
it is not an impossibility, one of his suggestions was to put
diagonal parking down the center of one lot and make the
alley two way, people can then park and exit by means of the
alley, because as designed the project will not work. He
said the setback is not workable, it is not a twenty-five
foot lot, there are three twenty-five foot lots, he is
awaiting an opinion as to legality, if one takes one twenty-
five foot lot which is to accommodate a dental office with a
residence above, he would defy that it complies with the
Code, the remainder of the lot(s) are needed to build this,
this can not be built as a twenty-five foot lot. Mr. Miller
questioned again if the representative of the applicant was
licensed, made reference to his own preparation of plans, the
plans for this project needs to be done by licensed
architects and engineers, it has not been but should be
before the City approves it because this will be the first
project built on this street, his project was thought would
be first but it is not because it has been chopped back, from
an emotional standpoint something should not be approved that
does not comply with the ordinance. It has been said that
the L/C can not be built on but it can, his project could
have been built, this project could be reconstructed and
built on the L/C as it is, single family residences are not
needed on Seal Beach Boulevard, what is needed is multiple
apartments combined with visitor serving retail, there is an
entire Boulevard with an ocean view, three story
possibilities, this will bring people into town that can not
afford the $700,000 plus houses just built, the need is for
upscale apartments, that is what the street is all about, the
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direction that should be followed, there should be a plan
that works, this is a start, but this needs to be redone to
comply. There being no further comments, Mayor Doane
declared the public hearing closed.
Councilman Boyd mentioned that the recorded grant deed does
show three lots, to which he sought clarification that each
of those lots, under the L/C, could have one residential and
one commercial unit. The Development Services Director noted
that the issue of a twenty-five versus a seventy-five foot
lot was addressed in the staff report, pointing out that the
assessor maps do not always recogniz<< legal lots, if a person
owns adjacent properties side by side and for tax purposes
requests that they receive one tax bill for the multiple lots
the assessor will show them as one assessable parcel, that
does not necessarily mean that the rights of the individual
lots that comprise that assessable area have been given up.
The Director confirmed that in this particular case that is
the situation, there are three separate twenty-five foot lots
that the applicant owns side by side, the individual gets one
tax bill for all of those lots, assessor maps do not
establish legal parcels, parcel maps, tract maps, and lot
line adjustments define legal parcels.
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Councilmember Campbell excused herself from the meeting at
9:50 p.m.
To an out of order comment from the audience, the Director
confirmed that these lots are not being subdivided, the lots
were established in about 1916, the parcels remain as they
were subdivided at that time. Councilman Larson voiced his
understanding that these parcels will be deed restricted so
in effect it will be a seventy-five foot lot, the lots can
not be sold by parcel. The Director confirmed a comment of
Mr. Miller that a lot could not be sold separately unless the
owner determined to remove a building, also, with regard to
the comment of not being able to provide parking on the
twenty-five foot lot designated for commercial use, he
explained that the Zoning Code allows parking for a
commercial use to be provided within three hundred feet of
the property on which the building sits, that is a provision
of the Code, does not require any separate review by a
commission or Council, in fact as an example, if Dr. Raouf
owned a lot in the 300 block of the Boulevard and was within
three hundred feet of a lot in the 200 block he could provide
the parking within three hundred feet in the 200 block and
meet the parking requirements, in this case his parking is
being provided on a lot immediately adjacent, the City has
required an affidavit of non-severance to be recorded on the
properties that in essence says until parking is provided
elsewhere in accordance with City requirements none of these
parcels can be sold. Councilman Larson said his question was
if consideration had been given to requiring a parcel map to
make the lots one parcel, in response the Director said that
that would be an option of the property owner to make such
request. He explained that the City Code allows development
on twenty-five foot lots in the L/C zone subject to certain
conditions, the applicant has met those conditions.
Councilman Yost offered that he is a believer in the L/C
zone, he does not believe in doing away with commercial, once
a property is designated residential you can never get the
commercial back, but that is essential to the City, the
Boulevard has an exit from the 405 Freeway, the busiest
freeway in the world, a business on such street should find
some way to survive. He mentioned however some concern with
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the appearance of being designed as though the street will be
residential, the garages that extend to the property line and
the third story, if this were an R-1 zone that could not be
done, his question then is if this were zoned R-l rather than
L/C, a possibility that has been looked at, one could then
not put a third story on the rear half of a twenty-five foot
lot. The Director offered that until the City determines if
it wants to allow only a residential use on a lot in that
area, and not knowing what the ultimate development standards
would be, it would be difficult to respond to the question.
He explained that the Code, as it exists today, allows the
garage to be built on the property line in this particular
situation, as mentioned in the staff report, the ordinance
that adopted the L/C zone clearly indicated that the garage
could be put on the property line, however when the ordinance
was transferred into the Code there was a secretarial error
that deleted the footnote in that particular Code provision,
that is why Council has been provided a copy of the actual
ordinance in the agenda packet that was adopted by the
Council, which clearly indicates that the garage can be on
the property line for the residential use, with regard to the
Fire Code issues there are specific provisions in the
Building Code that deal with structures that are built on a
property line and have to meet certain Fire Code
requirements. Councilman Yost inquired about the ADA
accessible issues, have they been completed, the response was
that the staff report sets forth responses to the appellants
issues, the flood hazard compliance and ADA accessibility
will be reviewed at the time formal construction plans are
submitted for the building plan check review process, at this
point this is basically a concept plan which is all the City
requires for a Minor Plan Review, this project, if approved
by the City Council, would then go to the Coastal Commission
as a concept plan for their review and if approved then
formal construction plans are submitted, to the City to go
through the plan review proCeSS, it is at that time that all
Building, Fire, and Mechanical Codes, ADA accessibility,
flood plain issues, etc. are dealt with. The Director
confirmed that a project can not go through Coastal
Commission until there has been approval granted by the City.
Councilman Yost repeated a question from the audience as to
whether this property is currently in the flood zone. The
Director stated he could not answer the question, that will
be determined by the Engineering Department at such time as
the grading plans are submitted, assuming there is a project
eventually. In response to questions posed by the appellant,
the City Attorney stated that the legal question was on the
issue of parking which has been answered by the Director,
however restated that for residential properties there needs
to be parking on-site, his understanding is that they do have
parking on-site for the residential portion of this project,
for commercial properties there can either be parking on-site
or within there hundred feet, the project proposed complies
with all of the City's parking requirements in the Code.
Mayor Doane noted the comments of Mr. Miller relating to
vehicles backing out to which he made a suggestion that there
be diagonal parking into the alley, however questioned the
accuracy of the mention of a one-way alley. The Development
Services Director responded that the alley is not posted one-
way, it is twelve feet in width, the Code requirement when
new buildings are constructed is that parking areas at the
rear of the properties must have a twenty-four foot turning
radius to back out, this project meets that standard, in this
situation even if there was angled parking going to the alley
at this point in time there is no prohibition of someone
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going either direction in the alley as they exit the
property, if that vehicle is confronted with another vehicle
moving in the opposite direction that is the same situation
as currently exists for each person who backs out of their
garage. Councilman Yost asked if there are other commercial
enterprises along Seal Beach Boulevard that use the alley for
their commercial parking. The Director recalled that to be
Mr. Miller's property, the bike shop, the child care with
spaces for either residential or commercial, and a member of
the audience added the copy store and insurance office.
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Councilman Boyd noted that the applicant submitted a Minor
Plan Review to the Planning Commission, it was approved, an
appeal was filed, and it is consistent with the provisions of
the City Code, therefore moved to approve Resolution Number
4999 entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH DENYING AN APPEAL, SUSTAINING, THE DECISION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND APPROVING MINIOR PLAN REVIEW 02-
1, A REQUEST FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW qF A PROPOSAL TO
CONSTRUCT A NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT 233 SEAL BEACH
BOULEVARD." Councilman Larson seconded the motion. By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4999 was
waived.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Boyd, Doane, Larson, Yost
None
Campbell
Motion carried
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
No report was presented.
CITY MANAGER REPORT
No report was presented.
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COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Yost said he was quite disappointed that the
Orange County Fire Authority did not allow this city to
continue the fire fighting roll for the volunteers, reported
that he has requested the City Manager to look into other
options such as going with Long Beach or Los Angeles County,
it is important too to log all of the time periods when the
truck is not present in Station 44, also possibly send a
letter to the Fire Authority to put them on notice that
should there be dangerous situations they will be held liable
under the contract for any loss of life or property as a
result of the decisions made, there is a precedent in Orange
County in that the City of La Habra contracts with Los
Angeles County for fire services, under the ten year Fire
Authority contract the City is somewhat protected from costs
in the short term, his concern is with services. with regard
to the Hellman property, Councilman Yost said he has had
telephone conversations this week with the wildlife
Conservation Board and the Hellman's, the wetlands issue
should be on their May agenda, if not it will be August, the
money is in tact, the appraisal is complete and accepted by
all parties, the one outstanding issue is the Edison right-
of-way where the power lines once ran through the property,
the title for that property is the remaining issue, hopefully
this property will be in the hands of the Wildlife
Conservation Board by the end of summer.
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CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council to
adjourn the meeting until Monday, April 22nd at 6:30 p.m. to
meet in Closed Session. By unanimous consent, the meeting
was adjourned at 10:08 p.m.
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Seal Beach, California
April 22, 2002
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:30 p.m. with Mayor ProTem Larson
calling the meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor ProTem Larson
Councilmembers Boyd, Yost
Absent:
Mayor Doane, Councilmember Campbell
Councilmember Campbell arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Boyd moved, second by Larson, to excuse the absence of Mayor
Doane from this meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Boyd, Larson, Yost
None
Campbell, Doane
Motion carried
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the City Council would meet
in Closed Session to discuss the items identified on the
agenda, to confer with the City's labor negotiator pursuant
to Government Code Section 54957.6 with regard to the Orange
County Employees Association, and to confer with legal
counsel regarding one case of anticipated litigation pursuant
to Government Code Section 54956.9(b). By unanimous consent,
the Council adjourned to Closed Session at 6:34 p.m. The
Council reconvened at 6:44 p.m. with Mayor ProTem Larson
calling the meeting to order. The City Attorney reported the
Council had discussed the first item on the agenda relating