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Attest:
Seal Beach, California
February 28, 2000
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:20 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Yost
Councilmernbers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Absent:
None
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Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mr. Badurn, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Ms. Beard, Director of Recreation and Parks
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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WAIVER OF FULL READING
By unanimous consent, the Council waived the reading in full
of all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the
waiver of reading shall be deemed to be given by all
Councilmernbers after the reading of the title unless specific
request is made at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Boyd moved, second by Campbell, to approve the order of the
agenda as presented.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared Public Comments to be open, reminding all
that each speaker is allowed five minutes, the digital timer
may be used upon request. Mr. Gordon Shanks, Surf Place,
noted the importance of the March 7th election to this City,
spoke in support of Proposition 12 that would generate money
to the Coastal Conservancy and San Gabriel Conservancy which
in turn would provide some hope of saving the Department of
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Water and Power property for park/open space. Mr. Shanks
also spoke for the re-election of the City Clerk, Joanne Yeo,
and Patty Campbell, the District Four Councilmernber. M~.
Dorothy Whyte, College Park East, agreed that the upcom~ng
election is important, stated that the people against Measure
M are not a citizen group, they are sponsored and funded by
the Bixby Ranch Company, expenditures as of this date more
than $85,000. She said this group claims to represent the
residents, are distributing fliers using scare tactics, they
propose a permanent police substation north of the Freeway
yet one exists in the Rossmoor Center, proposes a quality
retail center with tenants such as Target, SavOn, and Ralphs
to which she questioned Target as high quality, what was
promised was a quality, high end shopping center, proposed
seventy-five homes yet they will not be of the quality of
those for Hellman Ranch, an assisted living facility by
Marriott, an expanded golf course and public driving range.
Ms. whyte said for the group in opposition to Measure M to
continue to make claims of quality is false, stated that
Measure M has nothing to do with the golf course or the
expansion of the golf course property, to say the Measure
will impact that is not true. She made reference to a letter
that stated three thousand people signed a petition to not
have this project but claimed that two thirds of the signors
were not Seal Beach residents, to that Ms. Whyte pointed out
that the one third, a thousand, were from Seal Beach, the
letter did not mention that two thousand three hundred people
signed the document to place this issue on the ballot. She
mentioned a Measure F flier that projected that if a jail is
built in Seal Beach it would take more than barbed wire to
protect the schools and homes, it is also alleged that
Governor John McCain supports a no vote on Measure M, her
belief is that Mr. McCain does not know what Measure Mis,
for the Council to be part of this is inappropriate. Given
the comments of a prior speaker, Ms. Whyte expressed support
for Pamela Sheldon as the District Four candidate of her
choice. With regard to the bridge, Ms. Whyte said of
interest is an OCTA Measure M Annual Progress Report showing
turn back payments by Seal Beach for 1998/99 of $212,372 for
a total to date of $1,408,696, noted a recent meeting held by
a Councilman to discuss alley repairs, during that meeting
there was mention of the possibility of some Bixby money
corning into the downtown area, there is no talk of Bixby
money going to College Park East, in fact it is understood
that the tennis club site would become a profit making
facility, it is not believed that is true with the Marina
Center, also, one concept for the tennis club showed parking
on a portion of Bluebell Park, it is hoped that is not true.
Ms. Whyte requested a yes vote on Measure M, yes means no
commercial development, it has nothing to do with the golf
course, somewhat to do with the tennis club however that
zoning is not being challenged in this election, and it has
nothing to do with the water retention either. Mr. Philip
Anthony, stated he represents this community on the Orange
County Water District Board, the District responsible for
most of the water supply for Seal Beach. He stated that
about three quarters of the water supply is groundwater, the
responsibility of his District is to keep the basin full
enough to enable the pumping of the amounts needed, somewhat
difficult due to the growing population, and in spite of
trying to capture the natural water from the Santa Ana River
it is necessary to buy certain amounts of imported water to
keep the basin full enough for use, also, the supply of
imported water is under constant pressure from the Colorado
River states to acquire part of the Southern California share
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and the Northern California supply is continually threatened
by environmental issues in the Delta. Mr. Anthony pointed
out the extreme importance of Proposition 13 on the upcoming
ballot to Orange County and the City of Seal Beach for their
water supply, expressed appreciation for the endorsement by
the City of that measure, this is the first water bond in
California history that guarantees a fair share of the money
comes back to Southern California, approximately $3 million
will actually be a direct benefit to Orange County. Mr.
Anthony urged a vote in support of proposition 13 on the
March 7th ballot. Mr. Joe Siler, College Park East,
described himself as a strong supporter of Measure M, that
Measure will restore golf course zoning on land that the
Council changed to commercial, the commercial zoning is to
the benefit of the Bixby project, designed to be another
shopping center that is not felt is needed, designed by the
Council with the belief that considerable money would be
generated by the project, the financial analysis was not done
individually, rather there was dependence upon staff and they
in turn relied upon consultants, alleging those were the same
consultants hired by Bixby. Mr. Siler claimed that Bixby
plans to sell their land and leave this community therefore
they will not be stuck with the miscalculations, when one
looks at the money it is found that nearly half is projected
to come from the Lowes, the big store that was proposed as
the high profit center, the high sales per square foot,
during a presentation it was said this would be the perfect
location for a Lowes, shortly thereafter they considered the
arguments relating to this area, not easily accessible from
Long Beach, a number of population voids, not the prime area
that they were led to believe, Lowes then abandoned this
site, that was half the sales tax revenue anticipated. Mr.
Siler mentioned that now there is to be a Target store,
Target does not sell as well per square foot as Lowes,
calculations show that the families that live closest to this
store would need to spend $2,500 per year on average to
produce what the City projects in sales tax revenue, it is
not felt that will occur. He mentioned also that there is to
be a new market, there are now three markets within two miles
of the Bixby property, this is proposed to be the newest and
largest market in the area, it may likely generate
considerable sales, it may become the number one market
saleswise, but when there are three markets and the sales are
divided between four markets that would be a large reduction
for the other markets, some will be hurt, some market may go
out of business, likely not the chain markets, rather, the
small independent, the Seal Beach Leisure World Market, that
will be the market in jeopardy, the one that the owners
indicated they feel in jeopardy, Ralphs targets independents.
Mr. Siler said he wished to comment on some of the other
arguments, which he felt has been demonstrated to be
incorrect, the yes group has said that the existing bridge is
going to be replaced, not widened, that will not happen, if
one talks to the people at CalTrans and OCTA they will state
that the bridge is going to be replaced with a longer bridge,
that will occur within a five to seven year time period, the
plan was to spend fifty percent of the cost of widening the
bridge, that cost having now climbed to about $6 million, the
City's cost about $3 million, why would one want to widen the
bridge, the answer is to accommodate Bixby's traffic, why do
some want to vote for the Bixby project, that is so the
bridge can be widened, that makes no sense, the existing
bridge handles current traffic, the backup is at the
intersection, the bridge becomes a parking place, under
current conditions a wider bridge would provide a wider
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parking place. Mr. Siler claimed that the owner of the
ambulance company has said the current service is fine, he
was never told that the 22 Freeway was going in and the
bridge would be widened anyway, never told that all
intersections north of the freeway get worse with one
exception, an example, St. Cloud goes from seventy-four
percent capacity to ninety, that an unacceptable level, the
only intersection the Council is mentioning is Lampson which
is reduced eight tenths of one percent. Mr. Siler concluded
that a. yes vote on Measure M will allow the cOIlUl\unity to
start over, come up with a better plan that is good for the
entire City, all plans will provide money to the City. Mr.
Doug Karthof, Seal Beach, commended the Council for their
effort:s towards the Trailer Park, its existence is important
to those residents and the City. He made reference to the
person speaking to the Water Proposition, noted that most
agencies in this area obtain their water from wells, however
one of the greatest problems relating to water is that by
reducing open space the water flows to the ocean faster in
that the retention basin is not large enough because it has
been paved over. Again with regard to the Trailer Park, Mr.
Karthof suggested that the profit margin of the owner be
determined in terms of any purchase, if the owner had been
pro-active and bought the Park a year ago it would have been
at a much more reasonable price. With regard to the DWP
property there are some that want to develop something on
that site that will bring revenue, when asked about the
additional traffic and other concerns the reaction is that it
is nol: their problem because they do not live in the
immediate area, the same applies to the Bixby project, if
that shopping center is supported it will draw cars from all
over the area, at present the problem is not the bridge it is
the traffic signals at Lampson, St. Cloud and Katella, with
the project the traffic will be worse, then it will be
necessary to cut down another row of trees and that will
still not be enough. Mr. Karthof said one of the assets of
Seal Beach is the open space, it should not be given up
easily, keep the retention basin for the water and open space
for the next generation. Mr. Reg Clewley, Seal Beach,
mentioned his observance of political signs for the widening
of the bridge and urging a no vote on Measure M, said to
widen the bridge for the benefit one of the wealthier
families is an act of welfare to the Bixby Company. He noted
comments relating to the proposed market that will generate
considerable sales but at the expense of the other markets in
the area, this will not increase tax revenue to the City by
any appreciable amount, most food items are not taxable. Mr.
Clewley recommended a yes vote on Measure M. Mr. Clewley
said he was impressed by the concern of McGaugh students that
led to the collection of over $900 in pennies, his curiosity
was what these children were going to do with this money, it
was found it is for the operations of the Animal Care Center.
Much is being done through donations and volunteer efforts
for the Center, yet made an accusation that a member of staff
recently placed two dogs with the Care Center, questioning if
someone who abandons an animal is guilty of a misdemeanor,
there should be an investigation. Mr. Phil Fife, College
Park East, said of the twenty-five top shopping centers in
Orange County the South Coast Plaza is at the top and
generates $3.13 sales tax revenue per square foot per year,
Newport Fashion Island is next generating $2.93 sales tax
revenue per square foot per year, the Bixby Towne Center is
projected at $2.95 per square foot, and given the talk of how
much revenue this will generate it will need to be done
without taking even a dime of taxable sales away from
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existing merchants. If the stores that are reportedly coming
to Seal Beach, even though they themselves have not announced
so, there will be a Ralphs, Target, and SavOn that will each
have a pharmacy, three pharmacies competing with the RiteAide
in Rossmoor Center, a large grocery competing with an
existing Albertsons, thus it is difficult to believe that
there could be that much sales tax revenue and not hurt the
existing merchants. Mr. Fife mentioned that something
bothersome about the proposed project is that when Bixby sold
the land to S & S Construction in the 1960's for the
development of College Park East, neither wanted to put in
storm drains to accommodate the drainage of the area into the
flood channels therefore the retaining basin on the golf
course was settled on as an alternative whereby the flood
waters drain from College Park East, cross Lampson in
inadequately sized pipes, and end up on the golf course where
the water percolates into the basin of ground water supply.
He said that Bixby, by taking thirty-three acres of what was
golf course land and move the same flood retention capability
onto the renovated and somewhat enlarged golf course the
flood retention goes from eighty-four to eighty-eight acre
feet, and if Measure M passes it is certain that Bixby is not
going to fill in the lakes that they have already dug, Bixby
has had the obligation to retain water on the golf course for
forty years, not an obligation from which they can escape if
their shopping center is not built. To the comments of Mr.
Anthony, Mr. Fife agreed that the City does take much of its
water from the ground aquifer, if you take thirty-three acres
of land that absorbed water and was covered with vegetation
and now cover it with asphalt where oils, grease, etc.
collect and eventually runs off into the same retaining basin
as the water into the aquifer, the water quality will go down
and it is hoped the Water District takes this into
consideration. Mr. Fife urged a yes vote on Measure M. Ms.
Reva Olson, Seal Beach, commended the Council position on
Propositions 12 and 13, important issues for the environment
and survival. She expressed concern with this development,
stating there is not adequate infrastructure to take care of
it, mentioned that she had watched the meeting at which the
Bixby project was approved yet the people who spoke against
and presented petitions were disregarded. Ms. Olson said she
too will vote yes on Measure M. Mr. Glen Clark, Trailer Park
resident, said over the past year the people in the Park have
been faced with many problems, upon request for assistance
the Council and staff have helped in every way they could,
the residents too have put forth a tremendous amount of time
and effort. Mr. Clark expressed his gratitude. Ms. Sue
Corbin, Seal Beach, recalled a resident speaking on behalf of
a lost dog at the last meeting, the dog was captured, is at
the shelter, doing fine, and now needs a good, loving home.
She stated that the Care Center is a professional and loving
place for animals. Ms. Corbin read her communication,
recommending a yes vote for Measure M, suggested that the
comments in the ads and fliers paid for by Bixby need to be
refuted before voting. She said CalTrans has stated that the
present substandard 405 overpass is slated for demolition
when the 22 and 405 freeways add carpool lanes in five to
seven years, the new overpass will be constructed whether
Measure M passes or fails, City staff knows this but will not
announce it until after the vote. The applied for Measure M
funds for bridge widening will never be approved for a
temporary, substandard overpass that can not be lengthened,
CalTrans officials have referred to any money invested in
this bridge as throw-away money, if the project is slated for
2010 then Measure M and CalTrans money would be offered to
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widen but not for projects such as this that have a five to
seven year lifespan ending in demolition. She asked if the
voters really want to widen a substandard overpass that is
slated for demolition in five to seven years for $6.6 million
with $1 million coming from Bixby and $1.6 coming from the
City capital improvement fund, the funds for roads, alleys,
sidewalks, and curbs will be dissipated to a welfare bridge
for the Bixby Company. The sales tax from the Bixby Towne
Center has already been spent, do not count on this money to
pay for capital improvements. Ms. Corbin recoIlUl\ended a yes
vote on Measure M. Ms. Corbin said she believes that two of
the parties quoted in the Bixby literature have refuted their
comments when given the facts, anyone having a financial
interest in this project needs to report same before the
vote. She said Bixby has over-spent the yes cOIlUl\ittee
twenty-five to one, the City Manager had offered to clarify
the funding for the bridge widening, a future lengthening was
mentioned but it is known it can not be lengthened, again
repeating that it is slated for widening in five to seven
years, the anticipated $1.3 million of revenue will more
likely be $.3 million, the Rossmoor Center, providing twenty-
five percent of the sales tax base, will be lost when the
left turn lane is eliminated, the mom and pop stores will be
lost because people will go to the bigger stores because of
their prices, what is being created is not fine
establishments that it is said Bixby usually creates, this is
a strip mall, and what kind of criminal activity will be
attracted with some of the twenty-four hour operations. Ms.
Corbin said there is no plus for the residents with the Bixby
project, all that is needed is a larger golf course to
satisfy everyones needs. Ms. Ann New, College Park East,
asked what position Councilmember Campbell is taking on
Measure M, the only thing the literature says is support for
open space, this project would be against open space, a
position is being sought before the election. Ms. Fran
Johnson, Coastline Drive, said she has been working for yes
on Measure M for some time, hoped that those attending their
recent meeting enjoyed it. She said they moved to a small
town to retire, everyone does not want a large store like the
new large Vons, most of the trees have been ruined, it is
likely not understood that the bridge construction will slow
down traffic and emergency vehicles, with a large center like
the one proposed no one will come downtown, it is hoped
people will think of these issues. Ms. Johnson questioned
the literature against Measure M which were generated in
Sacr~nento and Fullerton. Mr. John Unrath, Seal Beach, said
it now appears to be Bixby versus Rossmoor, Citizens Against
Excessive Traffic versus the four-fifths of the Council, as
mentioned earlier it is said Bixby has spent $85,000, the
Excessive Traffic Group has spent about $65,000, that is
about $150,000, the population is twenty-five thousand, that
comes to about $6 per person, if only a third of the people
vote that is about $18 per vote, therefore instead of sending
all of the glossy fliers it would be nicer if someone sent
him $18 and they would have his vote. with all of the fliers
and papers relating to the election, Mr. Unrath reminded all
that there is a paper drive on Saturday, bring all of the
paper to aid the parks in College Park East. There being no
further comments, Mayor Yost declared Public Comments to be
closed.
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CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "A" thru "D"
Boyd moved, second by Campbell, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented.
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A. Approved the minutes of the regular
meeting of February 14th, 2000.
B.
Approved regular demands numbered 26378
through 26679 in the amount of $1,499,219.80,
payroll demands numbered 6800 through 6931 in
the amount of $217,739.64, and authorized
warrants to be drawn on the Treasury for same.
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Proclaimed April 1st, 2000 as "Census Day."
D.
Adopted Resolution Number 4786 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED
AS TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT
#819, SODIUM HYPOCHLORITE GENERATION SYSTEM
1999/2000, CONTRACT ENTERED INTO BETWEEN
CHEMICAL SERVICES COMPANY AND THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH." By unanimous consent, full
reading of Resolution Number 4786 was waived.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
AWARD OF BID - MAIN STREET ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS - PROJECT 820
Bids were received for project Number 820, Main Street Alley
Improvements, on February 23rd, 2000 until 10:00 a.m. at
which time they were publicly opened by the City Clerk as
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Southern California Grading, Inc.
Robert G. Castongia, Inc.
Valverde Construction
GCI Construction, Inc.
Nobest, Inc.
palp, Inc. dba Excel Paving
Zondiros Corporation
$318,410.37*
$349,819.00*
$385,655.00
$429,340.00*
$433,250.00
$552,982.00
$597,950.00*
(* corrected for clerical error)
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The Director of Public Works noted that this is the same
project that was brought to the Council in. the fall at which
time the decision was to defer the project so that it would
not interfere with the holidays. He pointed out that the
bids are competitive, the project will replace the sewer and
water lines, install new pavement to promote better drainage,
also, it is the intent of the Gas Company to replace their
lines while the alley is open, this project will commence as
soon as the threat of rain subsides. The Mayor asked where
this project fits within the Pavement Program. The Public
Works Director explained that the alley program is separate
from the pavement program that basically due to the fact that
the alleys contain most of the utilities, this project will
be totally funded by water and sewer revenue funds, as a
general rule Measure M and gas tax monies are not eligible to
be spent on alleys, General Fund monies could be if they were
available. At present alley replacement expenditures are
about $100,000 per year with a backup of projects in the
range of $14 million, for that grants will be looked at, the
sewer rates as well, and should sales tax increase possibly
more General Fund monies could be used. He noted again that
the project 820 could be in progress approximately two weeks
after the contract is executed, however attention needs to be
paid to the weather pattern. Councilman Boyd sought
assurance that the residents on the westerly side of 10th
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Street and the businesses on the easterly side of Main Street
will be notified of the project as soon as possible and
prefer.ably with an estimated time frame, it will be necessary
to pla.n ahead as well to accommodate refuse pickup, and given
the fa.ct that that alley has a significant amount of parking,
with t.he concurrence of the Council he would like to offer
the me,rchants use of the metered lots on Electric and on Main
Street. and for customer parking at no charge while
construction is in progress. As to the estimated time of
constr.uction, the Director concurred with an approximate
sixty days, that somewhat dependent upon the Gas Company,
there are some coordination issues, the contract provisions
require notification, fliers will be distributed to all of
the residents before the project, some of the street sweeping
may be, suspended, maybe some temporary permit parking.
Councilman Boyd pointed out that this project will be in a
time period where there will not be significant impact from a
seasonal point. Mayor Yost asked what would be the projected
loss by allowing free use of the metered lots. Councilman
Boyd responded that that is of no consequence, this will
displace about seventy vehicles, suspension of street
sweeping will be helpful, the desire is to limit the impact
on the residents. The Public works Director said he believed
the beach lots could absorb some of the parking possibly
designate a portion of the lot with some special parking
permits.
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Boyd moved, second by Snow, to award the bid for Project
Numbel: 820, Main Street Alley Improvements, to the lowest
responsible bidder, Southern California Grading, in the
amount: of $318,410.37, and authorized the City Manager to
execut:e the contract on behalf of the City. .
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NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
Councilman Boyd asked if certain alleys between Ocean and
Electric, Main/10th, 13th and 14th specifically, could be
vacuum swept to remove the standing water as a result of the
recent rainfall.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared Public Comments open. Ms. Dorothy Whyte,
College Park East, stated her amazement at how quickly things
move forward in the downtown area, alleys are going to be
done, yet Lampson has continued to be in need of realignment
for YE~ars. She noted that none of the speakers at this
meeting were in support of the Council position on Measure M,
all Wl~re in favor of the Measure yet the Council continues to
disre9ard the public comments, candidate Sheldon has taken a
position in support of Measure M, each member of the Council
has b'~en involved with this Measure except the College Park
East :r-epresentative. Ms. Whyte reminded that the CPE
candidates will be on the Rick Paap Show this coming Thursday
evening and Measure M will be debated as well, this is a
Bixby/City Council against the residents of Seal Beach issue,
questioned the letterhead stationery and desk of Councilman
Boyd, she commented also that the layout of the Hellman
project is on display in City Hall as was the Main Street
Specific Plan when being considered, so why is the Bixby
project not on display, people have no idea what is going in
or what it will look like. She charged that the Council
representative has not had town hall meetings or included CPE
residents in this process, the prior Council representative
never took a position either, that is terrible, the
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Neighborhood Association has not had public meetings,
Councilman Boyd and Mayor Yost have public meetings
frequently. Mr. Phil Fife, College Park East, directed his
comments to a prior speaker, stating that the yes on Measure
M group has spent not near $65,000, probably not close to
$20,000, that compared to the possible $125,000 by Bixby.
Mr. John Unrath, College Park East, responded that his
calculations were based on the stack of literature, measured
by inches, all equally as glossy. Mr. Unrath said the
problem with Measure M is that there have been no town
meetings, no matter how one votes you lose, if one votes yes
there is this better plan out there somewhere, if no you get
the shopping center, in either case open space does not come
back, again, send him $18 and he will vote either way. Ms.
Sue Corbin, Seal Beach, encouraged donations to support
Measure M, they have been outspent twenty-five to one at this
point, if people believe in the quality of life, property
values, the residents, make donations in support of Measure
M, put a sign in the window or whatever. Ms. Corbin said she
was not calling for one side or the other to win in College
Park East, however it is felt that Councilmember Campbell
does understand the airport issue where Seal Beach could be
third or fourth on the international airport site list. Mr.
Joe Siler, College Park East, mentioned that their campaign
contributions have come from hundreds of people in all
different areas, this basically a community grass roots
organization, it is understood that almost all of the money
supporting the no on Measure M side is from the Bixby Ranch
Company, the beneficiary of the rezoning approved by the
Council. He noted the previous speaker was uncertain as to
which way this is a win or lose issue, yet there is an easy
way to look at this as traffic is what drives the bad things
that happen in a community, if there is a lot of traffic you
have a commercial area, if little traffic it is a pleasant,
rural setting, that is what people would like. He noted that
there were about ten alternatives studied when the EIR was
prepared, some as few as thirty-five hundred cars a day, some
at forty-nine hundred, five thousand, yet this project is one
of the highest traffic uses for that property, thirteen
thousand five hundred twenty cars per day, lower traffic
would have much less impact on the community, congestion,
reduced crime, etc. Mr. Siler noted that the bridge is going
to be lengthened and replaced, the cost of replacement and
lengthening of a six lane bridge at present is estimated at
$13 million, the cost to do the same with a four lane bridge
is approximately $11 million, the Orange County
Transportation Authority has indicated that Seal Beach might
be asked to make a contribution if they deem going from four
to six lanes as a local benefit, that contribution would be a
proportionate share of the added $2 million increment,
normally such contributions are subject to matching funds of
possibly $1 million, yet if the bridge is deemed to be of
regional benefit then the improvements would be free to the
City, which brings into debate whether the City would be
liable for zero or $1 million in the five to seven year time
period when the bridge is completed, the existing bridge will
not be widened, neither CalTrans or the Transportation
Authority will put money towards widening a bridge where it
is known it will be torn down, that means that the City has
saved $2 million of the $3 million it would have spent, the
cost is now down to $1 million and does not have to be spent
for a five to seven year period. Mr. Robert Hobb, College
Park East, noted that he had viewed the last meeting from his
home, comments were made with regard to support of the defeat
of Measure M, it is understood that the members of the
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Council have that right and have already voted for the
project, yet there were personal attack comments towards the
supporters of Measure M which, in his opinion, were out of
order, yet the members of the Council sat silently while such
remarks were being made, which indicates agreement with the
comments, this is not appropriate for the City Council, and
suggested that the resident to which certain comments were
direct:ed be afforded a public apology. There being no
further comments, Mayor Yost declared the Public Comment
period closed.
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CITY llTTORNEY REPORT
No report was presented.
CITY MANAGER REPORT
The City Manager mentioned that some time back the City
successfully competed for State monies in the amount of
$813,000 towards the $1 million expenditure for beach sand
replenishment on the south side of the Pier, the planning
process for this project was somewhat of a risk in that the
sand was being transported from the area of palmdale by rail,
this method thought to not have occurred in Seal Beach
before, the sand was of a higher quality and similar to sand
that would flow down the rivers naturally if there had not
been over-development upstream and jetties placed out in the
waters to prevent the natural flow onto the beaches. The
Manager made reference to a plaque that was presented to the
City and Public Works Director Badum by the Orange County
Engineering Council for this innovative, progressive project
which is now being looked at by other coastal communities as
another viable means of restoring beaches.
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COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Doane clarified that a reference by the Director
of Public Works to Measure M funds in an earlier statement
was in fact State Measure M funds, a percentage added to the
gasoline tax for roadway improvements. As to the requested
public apology requested by a speaker, Councilman Doane said
he would not do so as there are still distortions with regard
to thl3 market closing, the market that may be in jeopardy is
the Vons store in Los Alamitos, that is why they brought
legal action against Seal Beach, the Leisure World market is
not in competition with other markets in the area, however
when "the large Ralphs store went in at Marina Pacifica it may
have taken some business away from other markets in the
immediate area, the Leisure World Market is specific to
Leisure World and is not in jeopardy, that market will not be
hurt by a market going into the Bixby Center. He made
reference to the rhetoric to stop Bixby, said they are merely
a successful company, there is no comparison between the
Rossmoor Center and Bixby, the Towne Center will be the same
quality as other Bixby developments in the area. Councilman
Boyd noted his attendance at a Golden West College Gala
Reception on Saturday evening at which all of the cities
within the College District were recognized, he then
presented the proclamation to the Mayor and Council.
Councilman Boyd noted the reference to distortions with
regard to the Bixby project, referred to a flier which he
deemed, in political terms, as a spin doctor, both sides of
the issue have them, the specific flier requesting a yes vote
on Measure M citing thirteen thousand five hundred twenty
more cars per day, this in reference to the Environmental
Impact Report that was commissioned for the Bixby project
which identifies thirteen thousand five hundred twenty more
car trips per day, thus a distortion of the truth, car trips,
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not cars, adding cars is different from a car trip, and gave
an example of driving to the Los Alamitos High School,
stopping for something at the Bixby Center en-route, that is
a car trip. He stated that the Center is not a mecca for
shopping, a couple of large stores in the likes of a Target
and Ralphs to serve this community, not those who reside
elsewhere, and proceeded to read other language contained in
the flier. He pointed out that Bixby is not planning to pave
over the thirty-nine acres between St. Cloud and the 405
Freeway, that is in fact where the new, improved, enlarged
golf course is, plans for the project are available at City
Hall and the libraries for public review, these are issues he
has tried to point out each time the project is subject to
discussion, messages should be put forth in a truthful manner
utilizing the information that is available. Councilman Boyd
said he was not aware that certain proponents of Measure M
practiced economic development and economic analysis as it
relates to the Bixby project yet some people have espoused as
to knowing how much money will be realized from this project,
which is not specifically known, the City was given estimates
based upon projections from an independent consultant chosen
because of their resume and background in that field of work,
the question, will it be the highest performing per square
foot per dollar value shopping center in Orange County, the
answer is no and it is not desired that it be, the intent is
that it serve the community, and as the areas around Seal
Beach continue to grow it becomes less desirable for the
residents of the community to leave in order to provide for
the basic household necessities, that needs to be taken into
account and the issues being dealt with today are not
necessarily to resolve todays problems, rather the problems
of tomorrow. Councilman Boyd made note of the negative
comments directed to the College Park East Council
representative for several years with regard to the
Memorandum of Understanding between the City and the Bixby
Ranch Company, he explained that any time a developer comes
to the City to do a project, in order to protect the
taxpayers of the City from having to pay any costs associated
with the particular project, including legal fees,
consultants, staff time, etc., there is a requirement that
they agree to an MOU, in this case the Council at that time
signed the MOU to recoup every associated cost of the
project, if it had not been agreed to and signed that would
mean that any amount of monies due the City would have been
waived, and should the Measure pass and the project fail
there will again be a Memorandum of Understanding.
Councilman Boyd also mentioned that the Orange County
Firefighters Association endorsed the improvements associated
with the Bixby project to Seal Beach Boulevard after being
provided the entire document relating to this project, Medix
Ambulance Company was also asked to look at the project and
in turn issued a statement that they too believe that these
improvements will make their task easier to transport Seal
Beach residents to the Los Alamitos Medical Center and visa
versa, then, a proponent of Measure M wrote a letter to the
President of Medix requesting that they prepare a letter
against this project, which Medix refused to do, therefore
statements to the contrary are false, as to the Seal Beach
Police Association, who prefer to not be political, it is
felt they support more tax dollars coming to the City and
that this project would not be a major burden in providing
law enforcement services. He said these issues must be
represented in that manner, he is advocating a position based
on fact, when the Orange County Transportation Authority
agreed to participate and allow the use of Measure M money
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through a competitive process that is because of having a
letter from Lisa Mills, the Chief Executive Officer of OCTA,
making that statement, and if the yes on Measure M proponents
have a document from OCTA or CalTrans that says the opposite
with regard to widening or lengthening the bridge then the
City would like to see it, the documentation received by the
City from OCTA and CalTrans is exactly what has been stated
with r.egard to this project. Councilman Boyd urged all to
vote on March 7th, read the literature, and be an informed
voter. Councilmember Campbell recalled her previous
announcement to the residents of College Park East relating
to a scam operation dealing with the removal and repaving of
driveways, it is continuing, again urged residents to check
contractors licenses, compare that with drivers licenses,
also t:o require the contractor to come to City Hall to obtain
the permits for further verification of licenses, etc. with
regard to the comment as to why town hall meetings have not
been held, Councilmember Campbell offered that there is a
small group of residents that feel it is their right to
disrupt the meetings, at one such meeting police were even
present at the request of the City Manager, therefore instead
of town hall meetings she distributes a newsletter every four
to six weeks and she is accessible to anyone wishing to reach
her, also, it is not true that the College Park East
Neighborhood Association does not have meetings, they meet
quarterly which are noticed in the newspapers, a banner is
hung, they meet in the North Seal Beach Community Center.
Councilmember Campbell also rebutted the statement that the
Council does not respond to comments and questions from the
public, one reason for that is that the Chair generally does
not allow responses, at last meeting a statement made by a
member of the Council was directed to a person in the
audience yet she was criticized for not intervening, to that
she pointed out that the member of the audience had been a
proponent of the recall against her, she had no intent of
stopping the comments. Councilmember Campbell stated that
after much agonizing, weighing pros and cons, and discussions
with legal counsel, she wished to make a statement relating
to Measure M. She reminded all that she did not vote for the
Bixby project, her message had been to not allow the zone
change, she was the sole vote against the project, and gave
up being Mayor because of her position on Bixby, then when
the referendum came forward she had stated it did not go far
enough, did not reverse everything as it should have, now
there is a situation where Bixby can not lose and the City
can not win. Her belief is that anyone voting for Measure M
is voting for open space, if that is realized it will be
short lived because the referendum is poorly worded, ill-
written, and flawed, the authors of the referendum did not
seek overturning the development agreement, the fact is that
Bixby has certain rights afforded them by the development
agreement, they just do not have the zoning if Measure M
passes, because of those rights Bixby can come to the City to
seek building permits, if the City denies the building
permits then Bixby can bring a legal action against the City,
if the City issues the building permits then the referendum
group will sue the City, one way or another the City will be
sued if Measure M passes. She mentioned that her opponent
favors Measure M, is either setting the City up for a lawsuit
or wants to be the.vote.to give Bixby whatever they want
having openly said that Bixby should be able to do whatever
they want. Councilmember Campbell said Bixby has been
working towards developing this site since 1985 upon the
expiration of the lease for the crash zone, are they going to
go away, the answer is no, they are very patient, thus, not
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only would passage of the referendum not give open space, but
it will put the City in such a bad negotiation position that
the chance for a larger impact project is inevitable, the
concept of M is good because it appears that open space will
be regained with no development but the fact is that because
the wording is flawed the Measure does not accomplish even in
the slightest what it was meant to do, Measure M was not done
right. Councilmember Campbell reiterated that Bixby can not
lose, the City can not win, therefore reluctantly, she will
not be supporting Measure M. Mayor Yost reported that the
water quality workshop on the 24th was excellent, educational
and enlightening, and thanked those who attended. The Mayor
said he too wanted to comment on Measure M, a couple of
earlier comments that he wished to refute, with regard to
Lowes, that tenant would have been part of the shopping
center had it not been for the lawsuit, it is difficult to
hold the good tenants when one is being sued and the project
is in referendum, that is the reason for Lowes leaving.
Mayor Yost stated he is not completely happy with the total
project as proposed, his preference would have been a smaller
commercial center and that the houses not wrap around the
Center, yet the project is still quite good considering what
there was to work with. He said if Measure M were to pass it
would create a mess, consider the scenario that Measure M
would take away the zone change on the commercial portion,
the zoning of the residential at the north of the site, a
buffer to the Rossmoor Highlands, was tied to the commercial,
shown in the vesting Tentative Tract Map as such which means
if the shopping center is lost, the housing is lost,
developers like housing projects because they make
considerably more money with that product, if the Center and
the housing is lost then Bixby is not going to give the City
the tennis club, the largest recreation facility in the City,
if there is no profit center in their project, the answer is
no, it is likely that Bixby could bring a legal action
against the City to develop the housing at the northern end
of the site, the City could take a like action, the tennis
club will certainly be lost, Marriott has the interest in the
tennis club site which was previously zoned C-2, commercial,
which would likely be challenged as a result of the
referendum as well, a mess and continued conflict for years
that has already been at least sixteen years. The Mayor
noted that traffic on Seal Beach Boulevard is currently Level
E and will soon be F, the bridge does need to be widened, if
developer money is realized that will go a long way towards
that project, there are many amenities and benefits with this
project that the Council and even some Measure M supporters
have fought for, the tennis club site, the $1 million for its
renovation which will be designated specifically for that
purpose, and the decision as to the use of the tennis club
site will be guided by College Park East even though it will
require review and final approval by the City. Mayor Yost
urged the citizens to vote no on Measure M.
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By unanimous consent, the meeting was adjourned at 8:57 p.m.
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Seal Beach, California
March 13, 2000
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:02 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order. The Salute to the Flag was led by Girl Scout Troop
2234. Each Scout was introduced by the Troop Leader, the
Scouts in turn presented each member of the Council with a
box of Girl Scout cookies.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Yost
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Absen1: :
None
Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mr. Badum, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Chief Cushman, Lifeguard Department
Ms. Beard, Director of Recreation and Parks
Mr. Dorsey, Assistant to the City Manager
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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WAIVER OF FULL READING
By unanimous consent, the reading in full of all ordinances
and r'~solutions was waived and the consent to the waiver of
reading was deemed to be given by all Councilmembers after
reading of the title unless specific request is made at that
time for the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
PRESENTATION
The proclamation designating the week of March 11th, 2000 as
"Girl Scout Week" was read in full by Councilmember Campbell
and in turn presented to Troop 2234.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilman Boyd requested that Item "N", the report relating
to a Historic Preservation program, be continued until the
last meeting in April. A member of the audience requested
that Items "C, J, and K" be removed from the Consent
Calendar, and the audience was informed that public comments
would be accepted with regard to Item "A-I", meeting
procedural rules. Boyd moved, second by Campbell, to approve
the order of the agenda as amended.
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NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried