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MINUTES OF THE
SEAL BEACH PLAN~ING COMMISSION
OF
FEBRUARY 3, 1982
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF SEAL BEACH MET IN REGULAR
SESSION ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1982, IN THE COUNCIL
CHAMBERS OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. THE
MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRMAN COVINGTON AT
7:35 P.M. AND THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG WAS LED BY COMMISSIONER
GILKERSON
PRESENT: Commissioners Jessner, Gilkerson, Leibert, Goldenberg and
Chairman Covington
STAFF: Director Danielson, Associate Planner Antos
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The minutes of the January 20, 1982 meeting were unanimously approved.
Chairman Covington stated that the minutes of the past few meetings
had been very complete and had improved.
1. Public Hearings
A. CP-7-81 (Walt's Wharf) - General Liquor License)
Discussion item (a) was in regard to a general liquor license for Walt's
Wharf (co~ditiona1 use permit 7-81) which would permit that restaurant
to change from on-sale beer and wine to a general liquor license. Staff
report was given by Mr. Antos, who indicated to Commission to note
objection registered in writing by Ross and Pryde Mcquire of 134 A Main
Street. He also indicated that in the City Manager's response to comments
on the subject, the councilman from district #1 did object to the conditional
use permit granting due to the lack of, parking for Walt's Wharf.
In reply to Chairman Covington's question in regard to parking, Mr. Antos
indicated that 60 spaces were required for the 6,000 sq. ft. restaurant;
i.e., 1 parking space per every 100 sq. ft. of restaurant space was
required by code. He also indicated that 5 parking spaces could be provided
on-site, which would leave a shortfall of 55 spaces.
Chairman Covington asked how the parking spaces compares with other
restaurants with similar liquor licenses. Staff indicated that while
not knowing the actual count of spaces, it would appear that the Rum-
Runner's Restaurant & G1ide'er Ennapproach the appropriate number.
Commissioner Jessner asked if there was any problem with the Alcohol
Beverage Control due to the Grace Brethern Church being within a 300
foot perimeter of the restaurant. Staff indicated that unless there
was a formal protest to the Alcohol Beverage Control and if City approves
the CUP, the Alcohol Beverage Control would also most likely grant the
license.
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Commissioner ,Leibert indicated this is a good time to consider in-lieu
parking fees or possible renting parking spaces from the City with monies
going toward providing a public garage in Old Town.
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Commissioner Jessner asked if Walt's Wharf should have been operating
with 60 parking spaces presently, according to code. Staff indicated
that the restaurant has been operating with limited parking for at least
15 years, but whenever any change or modification comes before the Planning
Commission, code should be enforced.
Public Hearing Opened.
Philip J. La Casto, Rossmoor, owner of Walt's Wharf, spoke on behalf
of obtaining a liquor license. He indicated that the restaurant has
been operating with the existing parking spaces since 1975. The restaurant
is not in any way changing the premises inside or outside, it is only
applying for a conditional use permit for the serving of liquor. He
stated that although parking has always been a problem, the serving of liquor
is not anticipated to be of any more of a problem than it has in the past.
In the past two 'to three years, 20-25% of Walt's Wharf's clientele has
diminished due to economic conditions and because of a major influx of
new restaurants in the outlying areas. It is hoped, with the addition of
serving of liquor, to regain the loss of clientele for the restaurant.
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Mr. La Casto indicated that he could provide a total of 11 to 12 parking
spaces off-street due to the leasing of an office space adjacent to the
restaurant which would have parking both on~street and in the alley. He
has obtained verbal permission from the manager of the Bank of American
for the use of his parking lot for overflow from the restaurant.
Chairman Covington questioned whether there would be any change in operating
hours. Mr. La Casto indicated the hours would essentially be the same,
and that he would not object to a condition being placed on the CUP stating
approximate hours of operation. He ,also stated that he had reviewed the
conditions on the CUP and was in full agreement with them.
Victor Grgas, 216 15th Street, spoke in support of granting the CUP for
Walt's Wharf. It is his opinion that the City needs to accrue revenues
whenever possible if it is to remain solvent in the long run. He felt
Walt's Wharf has done a lot to put Seal Beach on the map and will continue
to do so and strongly supports the granting of the CUP.
Ken Croft, 1005 Crestview, spoke about the failing businesses in Old
Town. He felt the City should support Walt's Wharf'in seeking permission
to serve liquor as it would pull more people into the Old Town business
area and would not be detrimental to the area.
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Opponents were then asked to speak.
Mitch Grayson, 140 Coastline Drive, felt that while it is necessary to
revitalize Old Town area, the serving of liquor at Walt's Wharf would not
generally improve that area as those other businesses would be closed
during the restaurant's operating hours. He indicated that the type of
clientele drawn by liquor would not be beneficial to the City, stating
that half of the fatalities on the highway were due to drunk driving.
He mentioned that the Seafood Broiler opted not to serve hard liquor
and their business is doing fine. He also mentioned the shortfall of
parking spaces.
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Paul Chafe, 1700 Coral Place, spoke as a representative of Grace Brethern
Church. He stated that the church is not anti-business, but o~ general
principles, the church was opposed to serving of liquor. He also felt
that because of expanded waiting periods to allow for cocktails, there
would be more crowds outside the restaurant. The majority of summer
youth programs which happen during the summer, take place outside on
the church grounds. The church felt that the church is in too close
proximity to the customers of Walt's Wharf; they will be waiting around
the church area, crossing the grassy areas if they use the City parking
lot, and the church is more concerned about the problems these people
will cause. He stated that the church did not contest the 1975 expansion,
but that if Walt's Wharf were asking for the same type of expansion today,
they would probably contest it. He had been in contact with the Alcohol
Beverage Control and registered a formal protest, after the deadline for
filing had passed.
The church felt that a precedent would be started by allowing the serving
of liquor in Walt's Wharf, that other eating establishments in close
proximity to the church and to residents, would feel the need to acquire
the same type of permit.
Chairman Covington asked if Mr. Chafe were speaking as a member of the
church or as'a representative. Mr. Chafe stated that he was speaking as
an official representative of the church.
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Another objection was raised by Mr. Chafe to the serving of wine and
beer to customers waiting outside the restaurant.
Commissioner Goldenberg stated that should other liquor licenses in Old
Town come up before the Planning Commission for renewal, the church might
like to comment before the Planning Commission regarding those permits.
Chairman Covington allowed Mr. La Casto rebuttal time. Mr. La Casto
stated that Walt's Wharf catered to a family-type crowd, did not have
entertainment, and would not keep late hours, and would not serve beer
and wine to those customers waiting in front of the restaurant. He also
said that since business had dropped off during the past two years, the
main purpose was to try and retrieve some of that business and he did
not anticipate large crows waiting outside the restaurant. He certainly
did not want to jeopardize his license by serving to waiting customers
outside the restaurant.
Public Hearing C1psed.
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Commissioner Jessner asked if it would be possible to add a condition with
regard to not allowing any drinking outside with the stipulation that should
it happen, the CUP may be revoked.
Chairman Covington stated that if the Commission decided to approve the
CUP, ,this certainly should be included. He asked if there was any report
from the Police Department regarding th)s application. Staff indicated
that the Police Department had no comments on this request. Chairman
Covington asked that comments or no comments be received in writing from
those departments of the City which have some bearing on the applications
coming before the Planning Commission.
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Staff replied to questions by Chairman Covington, that the Planning
Commission can call a public hearing within 10 days notice and bring
any matter back to them to determine whether to revoke a CUP or not
if any condition_is not being adhered to.
Commissioner Go1de~berg questioned whether the wording in Exhibit A,
item #5, should read "to provide additional parking to the satisfaction
of the staff" because the applicant could not meet code. Staff replied
that it is necessary for the applicant to meet the code regarding parking
spaces.
Commissioners held a discussion as to the'prob1ems of parking availability
throughout the City, and the fact that the applicant has received only a
verbal agreement from the manager of the Bank of America to allow for use
of their parking lot.
Chairman Covington's recommendation was to hold off making a decision
on the application due to the unresolved parking situation and that
the app1 icant work with staff & City Administration to come up with a
parking plan before coming back to Commission on February 17, 1982.
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Commissioner Gilkerson moved to continue 'the hearing until February 17 to
allow the applicant to work with staff and City Administration regarding
a parking plan. Commissioner Leibert seconded motion and motion passed
unanimously. '
B. Tentative Parcel Map #82-1001 (Ponderosa Homes)-He11man Specific Plan area
Staff report given by Mr. Antos. Chairman Covington asked that the map
regarding subject be shown to audience. He read a portion of the letter
from Orange County Sanitation Districts regarding need to annex a portion
of the area to the Sanitation District in order to receive sewer service.
Staff explained the particular areas in question on the map regarding
easements.
Public Hearing Opened.
Duck Munsell, Ponderosa Homes, 2082 Business Center Drive, Irvine, spoke
regarding the parcel map. He indicated that Ponderosa has reviewed the
conditions and were in concurrence with those conditions.
Commissioner Goldenberg asked about building requirements on earthquake
faults. Mr. Munsell stated that soil treatment would be applied to those
areas of the fault zones where required, but that no particular building
construction requirements would be made other than treatment of pads on
those particular areas.
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Commissioner Jessner stated that the purpose of the map is to define the
two proposed park areas and the street area for dedication to the City.
Mr. Munsell stated that was correct. This map allows them to separate
the park space from their development and allows them to separate the
land from that which they will not be purchasing. Commissioner Jessner
then stated that this is just another step in the requirement of tract
maps.
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Ken Croft, 1005 Crestview, asked whether Gum Grove park has been signi-
ficantly enlarged or lessened. Staff replied that perimeters of Gum Grove
Park were essentially the same, approximately 11 acres. Mr. Croft asked
if the City would be responsible for the erosion problems which had
occurr~d'tnthe past in the Gum Grove Park area. Staff indicated that once
Gum Grove Park is dedicated, it is the City's responsibility to maintain.
Chairman Covington asked Mr. Munsell regarding the status of the project.
Mr. Munsell stated that ground breaking should begin in 1983.
Public Hearing Closed.
Commissioner Gilkerson moved to approve Resolution No. 1251 and Commissioner
Jessner seconded. Motion unanimously approved.
C. ZTA-1-82 - Zoning Text Amendment regarding vacant land parcels.
Staff report given by Mr. Antos.
Public Hearing Opened.
No one spoke in favor, nor against the item.
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Public Hearing Closed.
Commissioner Gilkerson moved to adopt Resolution No. 1252, Commissioner
Liebert seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
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2. Report from Secretary
Director Danielson spoke of coming budget deficiencies and enclosed
a memo from the City Manager regarding need for creative thinking in
cutting down costs. Chairman Covington stated that one possibility in
cutting costs was cutting the $10 per member per meeting fee for the
Commissioners. He suggested that since the fee was established, costs
had escalated and that possibly the fee could be raised to $50 per member
per meeting and that the Commissioners could then donate that fee back
to the City. The City would save that expense and the members of the
Commission would be allowed a tax deduction. All members concurred with
th~ idea as presented.
The Director indicated that a handbook for the commissioners was included
in their folders. The handbook was from the League of California Cites
and would give handy hints on conduct of commission hearings to them.
The Director stated that staff was in the process of ~omp1eting a Planning
Commission handbook for the City's Commissions,. Comme-rits'from
other departments on its content were being solicited and it should be
ready for them by the next Planning Commission meeting.
Report on City Council action included the City Council approval of the
BCL contract for revising the City's Housing Element, and that the $10,000
fee would be reimbursed by the State.
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The new lessee of the Sunflower Restaurant would be leasing 30 parking
spaces from the Main Street lot at $25/space per year. Chairman
Covington asked that the fee for leasing parking spaces be studied,
as costs ,might have risen since original fee was imposed.
Staff replied to comment by Commissioner Jessner that a study may be
made by Ca1 State Long ,Beach regarding parking situation in Seal Beach
at no cost to the City.
Comments were made by the commissioners regarding parking districts within
the City. CommissionerLeibettsuggested in-lieu fees for parking if no
spaces could be found.
Meeting adjourned at 10:15. p.m.,
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Recording
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