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MINUTES
OF THE
SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
OF
FEBRUARY 17,1982
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THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF SEAL BEACH MET IN REGULAR SESSION
ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 1982 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF
THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO
ORDER BY CHAIRMAN COVINGTON AT 7:35 P.M., AND THE PLEDGE TO
THE FLAG WAS LED BY COMMISSIONER GILKERSON.
PRESENT: Commissioners Gilkerson, Goldenberg, Jessner, Leibert and
Chairman Covington
STAFF: Director Danielson, Associate Planner Antos
The minutes of the Februacry 3, 1982 meeting were unanimously approved.
,Director Danielson indicated to the Commission, the presence of Dr. Neil,
a former manager of Fountain Valley, Stanton, Oceanside, with members of
his class from Long Beach State who were at the meeting to observe.
1. PUBLIC HEARINGS
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A. CP-7-81 (Walt's Wharf) - General Liquor License
Discussion item (A) was a continuation from the February 3rd meeting
regarding an application from Walt's Wharf to receive a general liquor
license which would permit that restaurant to change from on-sale beer
and wine to a general liquor license.
There'were additions to the staff report previously presented by Mr. Antos.
Those additions are as follows:
1) Letter from applicant outlining their operation along wit~
a diagram of the proposed parking layout.
2) Letter from Bank of America permitting use of their parking
lot on an as-available basis.
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3) Letter from Dr. Babcock permitting the use of 3 parking spaces
at 805 Central Avenue after 5 p,m. and on weekends.
4) Letter from Ross and Pryde McGuire of 134A Main Street opposing
approval of the permit.
5) Councilman Krede11 's note opposing granting of permit due to
lack of parking spaces.
6) Letter from Grace Bretheren Church formally opposing granting
of the permit on the basis that such a permit would further
jeopardize the moral climate of the community.
7) An anonymous letter to the Planning Commission in favor of
the conditional use permit.
Minutes of ,2/17/82 P.C. Meeting
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8) A memo from the Chief of Police providing all incidents that
had ever occurred at Walt's Wharf from 1975-1979, which showed
the restaurant had been a victim, but had never been cited for
any sort of activities.
9) In addition, the Chief of Police provided incidents which had
occurred for G1ide'er Inn for the past three years.
The applicant had also provided a petition in favor of allowing the liquor
license from 18 people representing 15 businesses along Main Street.
Several of those signing the petition provided letters in favor, as follows:
1) Bob A. Griffith, Bob's Rexa11 Drug
2) Wm. Jones, Teresa Jones, Bay Hardware
3) Martin & Margaret Murphy, The Gold Mine
4) John Eu1berg, owner of Gift Horse, president of Seal Beach
Old Town Business'Association and speaking also as a resident
who lives behind Walt's Wharf at 208 8th Street.
Public Hearing Reopened. As there were'no new speakers, hearing closed.
Commissioner Leibe~t asked how many parking spaces the Sunflower Restaurant
leased. Mr. Antos replied they leased 30 parking spaces on Main and 10th
Street parking lot.
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Chairman Covington ,asked how this would compare to parking at the G1ide!er Inn
and the Rum Runner's restaurants. Staff replied that each of those restaurants
have large parking lots, but would probably not meet today's code require-
ments.
Commissioner Gilkerson stated he felt a condition regarding restriction of
operating hours should be placed on the conditional use permit. Chairman
Covington stated that the applicant, as he recalled, had no objection to
a restriction on operating hours. Mr. LaCasto, the applicant, stated that
no particular hour had been discussed for a restricted closing hour. '
Commissioner Jessner asked if any other restaurant had a condition such as
this one proposed. Commissioner Gilkerson replied that the pier restaurant
had such a condition.
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Mr. LaCasto stated that the Alcoholic Beverage Control board dictates a
closing hour of 2 a.m. He stated that Walt's Wharf is now operating with
a closing time of approximately 11 p.m. Chairman Covington asked if an
11 p.m. closing time would be consistent with Walt's Wharf's operation.
Mr. LaCasto stated that he does not anticipate bei ng op~n beyond an 11 p.m.
time period, but he would like to place a 12 a.m. limit rather than 11 p.m.
to allow the restaurant some flexibility, especially for days such as
St. Patrick's Day, etc. This would allow him to operate the restaurant
without violating any condition of the permit. He stated that the restaurant
presently closes around,9 or 10 p.m. in the winter and around 10 or 10:30
p.m. in the summertime.
Minutes of 2/17/82 P.C. Meeting
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Chairman Covington stated that he planned to vote in favor of the conditional
use permit because he felt that there was a great deal of validity to many
,of those comments spoken on behalf of the request. He felt that the pri-
mary opposition should have been made to the A1cho1ic Beve~age Control
board, and not to the Planning Commission, but unfortunately those opponents
did not become aware of Walt's Wharf's request in time to file a protest to
,that board. He said it would be difficult to deny an established business
the right to compete with other businesses, but the Planning Commission does
have the right to have the required parking conditions satisfied, as they
have done in this case.
Chairman Covington also stated that he would like to have the Bank of America
letter giving parking permission to ~emain in effect and that at the end
of one year, the P1ann1.hg Commission could ensure that the condition was
continuing to be maintained when the applicant returned to the Commission
for renewal.
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Commissioner Leibert moved that a condition be added to'the resolution regard-
ing closing hours. Commissioner Jessner stated that he was not in favor of
establishing a closing time because the other businesses in town did not have
such a restriction, but would go along with it if Walt's Wharf could live
with such a restriction. Commissioner Jessner then asked the applicant if
he had any objection to an 11 p.m. closing time.
Philip LaCasto stated he would like the closing time to be midnight to
allow for flexibility. Chairman Covington asked the applicant if he would
object to an 11 p.m. closing hour Sunday through Thursday, with a midnight
closing time on Friday and Saturday. Mr. LaCasto again stated that 12 a.m.
would be the more feasible time limit.
Commissioner Goldenberg stated he did not feel any closing time restriction
was warranted until such time as the authorities find reason for restricting
operating hours, but if the owner would accept midnight, he would second the
motion.
Commissioner Leibert moved to include a condition of a 12 a:m. closing hour
in the conditional use permit. Commissioner Goldenberg seconded the motion.
The motion passed 3-2.
Commissioner Jessner moved to include a condition in the permit with regard
to having the Bank of America letter remain in effect. Chairman Covington
seconded the motion and,the motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Goldenberg moved to approve the resolution as amended with
Commissioner Leibert seconding. Resolution passed 4-1.
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2. CP-1-82 (Chevron USA) - Temporary Office Trailer
This permit was a request to place a 12 ft, x 60 ft. office trailer on
the Chevron/Exxon site at 99 Marina Drive, Zone O-E (oil extraction).
Staff report was given by Mr. Antos and included photos of the proposed
trailer.
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Minutes of 2/17/82 P.C. Meeting
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Chairman Covington asked whether~the Planning Commission had at any time
approved a trailer that was to be other than on a temporary basis. It
was his recollection that the only time a trailer may be used is when it
is used for schools, as a construction trailer, or when it is providing
a temporary site for businesses when a permanent site is being constructed.
This particular request did not seem to fit in any of these categories.
Staff replied that in the oil/extraction zone, all oil-related activities
require a conditional use permit and this particular request is proposed
because this facility is staffed on a 24-hour basis. This request is
proposed for a 2-year period.
Chairman Covington asked if there was any chance of a misunderstanding by
the applicant in thinking Chevron might expect an additional two years for
use of the trailer. Staff replied that the applicant must reapply if they
find they need additional time.
Public Hearing Opened.
Maruy Froman of 1216 3rd Street in Hermosa Beach, representing Riverbeach
Associates, stated that while there was no objection to issuance of the
conditional use permit, he asked that that portion of the property located
on First Street and the chain link fence be landscaped by the owner. He
felt that development now occurring and proposed development such as the
DWP, site,wou1d continue to improve the aesthetics of the community and the
only unsightly property would be the Chevron site.
No one spoke opposing the conditional use permit.
Mr. Larry McCamish of Chevron USA, stated that the lease was for 2 years,
4 months, and that landscaping for that period of time would be an onerous
burden to Chevron. Chairman Covington asked if the applicant was familiar
with lease landscaping, whereupon portable landscaping materials could
be leased and do a very creditable job while still being cost-effective:
Mr. McCamish stated that the chain link fence had plastic runners which
prevented viewing of the facility. Commissioner Jessner stated that most
of the runners were missing in the chain link fence. Mr. McCamish stated
that Chevron"wou1d be happy to replace the missing runners.
Commissioner Jessner asked if there were restroom facilities. Mr. McCamish
replied that restrooms were located in the existing facility. The trailer
would not have any plumbing. Chairman Covington asked if it was a practice
to oppose placement of a trailer without restroom facilities. Staff
replied that restrooms were only necessary when the public comes in to
transact business. This particular trailer is for employees only and ,
restrooms are located inside the fenced area.
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Vince Noble of Chevron stated that the trailer is primarily to house a
secretary and the area foreman. The present restroom faci1ites are for
the 4 permanent personnel during the daytime.
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Commissioner Jessner asked if there was a security guard. Mr. Noble
replied there is an operator on duty at all times. He also stated
that there will be skirting on the trailer and it is not felt that
vandalism will be a problem.
Commissioner Jessner asked what would happen at the end of Chevron's
2-year lease if they decided not to renew it. Mr. Noble stated that the
property would have to be turned back to its'origina1 condition, but
Chevron would most likely ask for an extension.
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Commissioner Jessner stated that there was large piping in the area where
the trailer is proposed to be. Mr. Noble replied that the p-ipingwas only
there temporarily due to overhauling of facility done on an annual basis.
Commissioner Jessner felt that there was a direct access from the adjacent
park to the facility and it could possibly be a safety problem by not
capping off the ends of the pipe and putting the facility in a secured
area. Mr. Noble stated that these pipes were only there for a m~ximum of
6 hours while they were being overhauled. He further stated that Chevron
has always been aware of the fact that the park area is adjacent to them.
He said we feel we run a very secure facility and don't feel that security
and safety are too big of a problem. Commissioner Jessner added that he
felt Chev~on's security was fine as evidenceJ when he visited th~ site, but
that Exxon's gate was, open and that bei ng so near to the park posed a safety
problem. Mr. Noble stated that to the best of his knowledge, Exxon is
maintained by a man on schedule and he comes into their facility 3 or 4
times a day. Chevron has been acting as a gate guard in that respect,
regarding people coming into the area.
Commissioner Jessner was also concerned with the aesthetics of the
facility. He felt that it would not fit in with the surrounding homes as
the facil ity presently stands. The wall and fence look out of place with
the rest of the community. He would like to see some sort of requirement
for landscaping.
Mr. Noble stated that he knew some of the slats were missing from the chain
link fence. He did not know whose responsibility it would be to landscape,
Exxon's or Chevron's. There are some bushes around the parking area which
protect the view of the facility. As far as he knew, these plants were
not being maintained.
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Commissioner Goldenberg asked if the facility is completed enclosed with
doors or gates so that no access is available. Mr. Noble stated that it
is enclosed with walls and a gate. Commissioner Goldenberg then asked ,if
there were going to be alarms in the trailer. Mr. Noble stated that
there were going to be some backup red light alarms.
Commissioner Jessner asked what is the size of the area. Mr. Noble stated
it is about 200 ft. wide or 4,000 sq. ft.
Public Hearing closed.
Minutes of 2/17/82 P.C. Meeting
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Commissioner Jessner stated he would like to see that some type of land-
scaping or in-lieu of landscaping, fencing repairs, something to make the
site more presentable. The facility would appear to be there on a long-
term basis and landscaping should be made a part of the requirements.
Co~nissioner Jessner indicated he would like to see a landscaping plan
with regards to blocking the facility from view of the park. Staff replied
there had been no problem with people from the park entering the facility
in 10 years. Chairman Covington said once the new park is developed,
incidents might be more likely to happen.
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Commissioner Jessner said he would like to request a report from the
Maintenance Department with regard to whether or not any extra street
cleaning requirements are needed there because of the fact that when it
rains, there is a lot of dirt on the streets with trucks moving in and
out of the facility. Possibly crushed rock would keep out the mud and
water from the streets if it is a problem.
Chairman Covington said he would very much support having a continuation
of the hearing and during that time have the applicant and staff work out
landscaping problems not only for the trailer but,for the parking area
perimeter, and to consider a barrier along the area which may be an
entry point for children in the parks (with this to be presented to the
Parks & Recreation Department for their recommendations). The trailer
should be skirted. The area around the trailer should be maintained
clear thereafter so it could not be used as a storage area with the
trailer enclosed so as to provide safety. The public hearing will be
reopened at the March 3rd'meeting.
Director Danielson told the Planning Commission that their handbook is
being revised and will be back at the next meeting.
Lois O~Su11ivan of 4546 Oster, Lakewood, student at Long Beach State,
asked why the Planning Commission felt it necessary to place an operating
hour restriction on Walt's Wharf. Chairman Covington stated that he
felt the restaurant is in the heart of residential area; has a church
nearby which has evening activities, and he therefore felt it was inappro-
priateto have large numbers of people who had been drinking, discharging
into those nearby areas during the evening hours.
Director Danielson then indicated that the City Council approved the time
extension of Parcel Map #80-1002. With regard to the Planning Commission's
idea of donating their fees to the City, Director Danielson stated that
the City Manager would like to see how the City Council feels about it
since other cities had not participated in this type of action before.
Commissioner Leibert stated that the City Council of Beverly Hills had
worked for free for many years. Director Danielson stated that the Planning
Commissions are a more professional working body.
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Commissioner Goldenberg asked if staff could find out if any other cities
had set a precedent with regard to length of time on a building permit.
Mr. Antos stated that the Planning Commission has the right to impose
reasonable conditions. Building codes have specific requirements for permits.
Meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
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Recording Secretary ,