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MINUTES OF THE SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION OF':june'L" 1983
The Planning Commission met in regular session on Wednesday,
June 1, 1983 in the City Council Chambers of the City Adminis-
tration' Building. The meeting was called to order at 7:40 P.M.
by Chairman Covingtdn the pledge to the flag was led by Vice
Chairman Goldenberg.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
STAFF:
Jessner, Covington~ and Goldenberg
Perrin, Smith
Antos
The minutes were considered and approved as corrected with the following
vote:
AYES;
ABSTAIN:
, ABSENT:
Goldenberg, Jessner
Covington
Perrin, S~ith
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. James Freimuth, CUP-10-83 & Tentative Parcel Map #83-1003
Staff report presented by Mr~ Antos. This'is an application for conversion
of an existing duplex at 127 11th Str~et into a two unit condominium.
Recommendation by staff was to approve the permit and parcel map by adoption
of two resolutions.
It was noted that the project complies with thr~e of the,required items
dealing with condominium conversions. The only nonconforming item by
today's standards is parking. Tandem parking spaces are nonconforming,
but can be exempted with designation of specific spaces per unit.
Public Hearing opened.
Mr. Jim Freimuth, 1303 Seal Way, the applicant, questioned the condition
placed on tentative parcel map regarding existing curb in front of site.
~o be replaced to satisfact~on of City Engineer, Applicant felt that'
cost would be exhorbitant. Staff suggested that City include this curb
in the next sidewalk repair project and that applicant put up bond to
cover cost. In that manner, applicant would pay at a l6wer rate since
Contractor would be bidding for work Citywide and would bid at a lower
rate per square foot. This was acceptable to applicant. It was decided
to add to the #2 condition in Res. #1289 the words "or provide a cash
bond necessary to cover that cost as determined by the City Engineer for
future correction";
Mr. Jessner indicated that he felt the appliances, if they were not going
to be replaced, should be guaranteed for a year. Mr Freimuth indicated
that he purchased appliance insurance and that would be done;' Mr. Freimuth
indicated that the price r'ange for the condominiums would be $200,000-
225,000. He ~ntends to hold for a minimum of one year fbr capital gain
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purposes, and may not sell quickly after that.
Mr. Jessner wished to assure that perspective buyers should be protected ..-~
He stated that many times when a buyer purchases a condo conversion, problems
arise a~d those buyers come back to the City to ask why this was allowed
to happen. Mr. Jessner would like to see future buyers protected while
still not imposing many conditions on owner that is not cost effective.
He was also concerned that plumbing and electrical systems be guaranteed.
After discussion between Commissioners and applicant, it was determined
that the insurance policy which covers appliances also covers plumbing
and electrical systems. The applicant was agreeable to purchasing such
a policy.
It was agreed by all to place a statement in the Condominium Conversion
Plan. under Plarined Future Amenities, to state' "A one year guaranty on
each unit's appliances, plumbing, electrical and heating system to be
provided.
,.Commissioner Goldenberg also wished, to see an inspection of the roof required
at time of, sale. It was d~cided to place a statement to that effect under
th'e Planned Future Amenities section of the Condominium Conversion Plan.
Public Hearing closed as no one spoke in opposition.
Commissioner Goldenberg moved to amend Condominium Conversion Plan, under
Planned Future Amenities section to include stat'ement "A 1 year guaranty
o~ each unit's appiances, plumblng, electrical and heating to be provided.
There will be ~ roof inspection deemed satisfactory by the Building Department."
Res. #1288
Commissioner Jessner moved to adopt Resolution No. 1288, Goldenberg seconded
and resolution approved with following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Goldenberg'
None
Perrin, Smith
Commissioner Jessner moved to amend Resolution #1289 with'the addition
of a statement under Condition #2 to read "or provide a cash bond necessary
to cover that cost as determined by the City Engineer for future correction."
Res. #1289
Commissioner Goldenber moved to adopt Resolution #128~ as amended, Jessner
seconded. Motion approved as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Goldenberg
None
Perrin, Smith
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B. Joyce Ross;,CUP-1l-83, Tentative Parcel Map #83-1002
Staff report presented by Mr. Antos.
of two duplexes located at 127 & 129
project. '
This is an application for a conversion
2nd Street into a four unit condominium
Commissioner Jessner was concerned with the problems that would arise
from having a four unit condominium as opposed to two separate condominiums;'
He felt that with a four unit condominium, one building could control
the other buiding. Mr. Goldenberg stated that the Articles of Incorporation
for a condominium state that a~l areas support the common area. For ins'tance
if one roof was in need of repair, both buildings would incur costs for
that repair.
Staff indicated that there could be one parcel map and two CC&R's with
two homeowners associations or there could be two parcel maps (which
would raise the cost).
Public Hearing Opened.
Joyce Ross, 1109! Seal Way, applicant and real estate agent in the City.
Ms; Ross indicated that she would be agreeable to the two CC&R's and
for the formation of ,two homeowners associations. She agreed that most
people would have pride of ownership in their own building. She also
indicated that she has no problem to additional conditions placed in Future
Amenities section of Condominium Conversion plan as done on the previous
CUP application. She felt that this would improve quality of plumbing,
electrical systems and then the owner would have the option of carrying
on the policy after one year.
Public Hearing closed as no one spoke in opposition.
Commissioner Goldenberg moved to amend Future Amenities section of Condominium
Conversion plan as previously presented to include one year guaranty on
appliances, plumbing and electrical systems and to have a roof inspection
at time of sale. Jessner seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
Res. #1290
Commissioner Jessner moved to adopt Res. #1290 with the addition of
statement for two separate homeowners associations and two CC&R's. Goldenberg
seconded and mot~on approved as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Goldenberg
None "
-Perrin, Smith
Res. 1291
Commissioner Goldenberg moved to adopt Res. #1291 as amended with inclusion
of two homeowners association and two CC&R's. Jessner seconded'and resolution
approved as follows:
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Goldenberg
None
Perrin, Smith
C. Norman & Cynthia Shelman, CUP~12-83, TentatiNE;(' Parcel Map #83-1004.
Staff report presented by Mr. Antos. Proposal is to convert an ,existing
duplex into ,a two unit condomium project.'
Public Hearing Opened.
Norman Shelman, 115 8th Street, the applicant, was available to answer
questions. He had no objections in complying with Commission's additions
to Future Planned Amenities se~tion of Condominium Conversion Plan as
stated in two previous CUP's. He indicated a preference to handle ,replacement
of broken curb on the same basis as the first CUP; that is, to have City
place in their sidewalk repair project and he would put up a b<;md t,o cover
cost.
No one spoke in opposition.
Public Hearing Closed.
Commissioner Goldenberg moved to approve changes to Future Amenities section
of Condominiu~ Cotiversion plan as previously presented. Jessner seconded~
and motion 'passed unanimously.
Res. #1292
Commissioner Goldenberg moved to adopt Res. #1292, Jessner seconded.
Motion passed as "follows:
'AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Goldenberg
None
Perrin, Smith
Res. #1293
Commissioner Jessner moved to
"or provide cash bond to City
cover cost of construction."
follows:
adopt Res. #1293 as amended to include statement
in amount determined by City Engineer to
Goldenberg s~conded and motion passed as
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington,- Jessner, Goldenberg
None
Perrin, Smith
REPORT FROM SECRETARY
Mr. Antos stated there will be a spe'cial meeting on June 6, 1983 as Walt's
Wharf has requested the meeting to ask that the closing time condition
be deleted from their conditional use permit.
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Mr. Antos brought,the Commissio~ up to date with regard to Walt's Wharf.
He stated that the last time the Commission dealt with Walt's was on the
18th of May when the City Manager requested a clarification of the closing
condition on Walt!s CUP~ It was brought tp the City's attention that
Walt's was not closing at midnight. On the 18th ,of May, the Commission
determined that the originaF,intent of the 'midnight closing condition
meant that the doors would close to new customers and all activity in
that building would be preparing to close down. After that, two citations
were given to Walt's for violating that condition. It was ~entioned that
,all sound attenuation measures have been completed in ,excess of recommendations
of acoustical engineer, Hr. Paul Penardi. It was recommended that,Commissioners
might like to visit Walt's to determine what can be heard outside the
building as that is sure to be discussed at the next special meeting.
It was also mentioned that the 'City Manager and the City Attorney will
be attending the special meeting.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Reva Turchin, 1625 Seal Way, asked who is responsible for curbs ,and sidewalks
in front of their property. Staff replied that" the fronting property
owner is responsible for those items.
John Euhleberg, 208 8th Street wished to point out one thing in relation
to Walt's \\Tharf that might not be readily apparent. When the original
sound report was taken by Mr. PeIiardi, it was unusually quiet that ~vening
as the visit was expected.
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Brent Matthews, 218 8th Street asked what would be the proper procedure
for citizens to initiate additional requirements on ~losing hour for Walt's
Wharf along lines of 10 p.m. weeknights and 11 p.m. weekends. '
Staff replied that the closing ti~e will be discussed at the special meeting
for the Commission. Mr. Antos went on to explain format of the special
meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 10 p.m.