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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Min 1978-08-02 .r .... MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 2 1978 .... . THE PLANNING COMMISSION MET IN REGULAR SESSION ON WEDNESDAY AUGUST 2 1978 IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING 211 8th STREET THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 7 30 PM BY CHAIRMAN RIPPERDAN AND THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG WAS LED BY VICE CHAIRMAN COVINGTON PRESENT ABSENT Lann1ng R1pperdan Cook Knapp Cov1ngton None I M1nutes of the July 19 1978 meet1ng were approved as corrected .... PUBLIC HEARINGS A S1gnal Realty V 10 78 (cont1nued) Appl1cant 1S request1ng a Var1ance to perm1t reduct10n 1n 10ad1ng zone for a~ small commerc1al development at 1200 Pac1f1c Coast H1qhway Secretary noted appl1cant had subm1tted a letter of w1thdrawal to the Comm1ss1on Publ1C Hear1ng Opened No one spoke Publ1C Hear1ng closed D1SCUSS1on followed Mr Cook asked Secretary 1f they could bU1ld w1thout a Var1ance not reduc1ng the 10ad1na zone Secretary stated no Mr Cook asked 1f the appl1cant had appl1ed w1thout the Sale of L1quor on the prem1ses and asked secretary 1f the Comm1SS1on could be 1nformed as to the development of the property Secretary was aff1rm1t1ve on the quest10ns " B \ John Artukov1Ch CP 14 78 (V 11 78) cont1nued tit ,.. Appl1cant 1S request1ng a Cond1t1onal Use Perm1t to allow l1m1ted commerc1al use at C 17 Surfs1de Secretary noted that the appl1cant need not be present for the hear1ng Publ1C Hear1ng opened No one spoke Publ1C Hear1ng Closed Mr Cook was of the op1n1on that there should be prOV1S1ons prov1ded to the Comm1ss1on for reV1ew of the appl1cat1on w1th1n a certa1n t1me per10d and 1f the bus1ness became undes1reable could the appl1cat1on be den1ed Secretary repl1ed to the quest10n stat1ng that a bus1ness l1cense was requ1red Wh1Ch was good for one year and 1f there were any compla1nts that a hear1ng could be brought before the Comm1SS1on at that t1me Mrs Lann1ng moved to approve CP 14 78 w1th cond1t1ons prov1ded 1n the Staff report seconded by Mr Knapp~ and unan1mously approved by all members present ~ RESOLUTION 1152 C Ruth Anderson CP 15 78 ~ "r e a Appl1cant 1S request1ng a Cond1t1onal Use Perm1t to enlarge an eX1st1ng den and ItO add a bathroom~to a nonconform1ng fourplex at 116 118 6th Street Secretary a letter to the Comm1ss1on from Mrs Anderson ask1ng for a postponement unt1l September 6 ~1978, due to a death 1n the fam1ly Publ1C Hear1ng Opened Mrs Rob1nson 113 7th Street subm1tted photos to the Comm1ss1on show1ng the uses of the eX1st1ng garages on the Anderson property Mr R1pperdan asked Mrs 1 Rob1nson 1f s~e was 1n agreement w1th the Staff Report Mrs Rob1nson was 1n agreement w1th the report at the t1me the report was wr1tten but stated that the garages 1n quest10n were cleaned for that day only for the p1ctures taken by the Plann1ng Department Mr R1pperdan asked 1f the cars parked 1n the dr1veways belonged to tenants at the spec1f1ed address Mrs Rob1nson stated yes Comm1SS1on moved to postpone the hear1ng unt1l September 6 1978 .J .I 'or e e ... . '" o Henry Grumet Moe Fox Steve Costant1no CP 5 78 cont1nued Appl1cant 1S request1ng a Cond1t10nal Use Perm1t to allow converS10n of two tr1plexes 1nto condom1n1ums at 801 805 Ocean Avenue Publ1C Hear1ng Opened Helen Fox 801 Ocean Avenue spoke br1efly on the subJect Mr Cook asked 1f set cond1t10ns spec1f1ed 1n the Staff Report were a h1nderance and questloned the smoke detectors 1n the un1ts Mrs Fox stated that smoke detectors would be 1nstalled 1n both un1ts and that the spec1f1ed condlt10nes would not present any problems Mr Cov1ngton quest10ned the number of water meters prov1ded Secretary noted there were two master meters 1nstead of S1X 1nd1v1duals meters and that each un1t has a separate water heater Publ1C Hearlng Closed Mr Cook moved to approve CP 5 78 w1th the cond1t10ns prov1ded 1n the Staff Report Seconded by Mr R1pperdan 01Scuss10n followed Mr Cov1ngton was 1n quest10n of the two water meters for SlX un1ts and suggested separate meters per un1t to observe conservancy of water Mr Cook stated~Resolut10n 1065 was meant to ~ apply to new construct10n more so than to a converS10n ~1r Cook asked how the common water was to be handled Mrs Fox stated the laundry area was common wlth one b1ll for all un1ts Mot10n passed unan1mously by members present Resolut10n 1153 ~ Tentat1ve Tract Map 10415 l" The property 1S descr1bed as 801 and 805 Ocean Mr Cook moved to approve tentat1ve tract map 10415 seconded by Mrs Lann1ng w1th the cond1tlon that the 1n lleu fee payment of $2520 be made Passed unan1mously by members present .... Resolutlon 1154 E James R Watson CP 6 78 cont1nued .... Appl1cant 1S request1ng a Condlt10nal Use Perm1t to allow converS10n of an eX1st1ng duplex 1nto a two unlt condom1n1um at 228 5th Street Publ1C Hear1ng Opened Georglanna Brown 212 14th Street questloned the 950 sq ft requ1rement set by the Comm1ss10n Mr Cook stated that th1S partlcular appllcat10n does not apply Slnce 1t was subm1tted before the 60 day moratorlum w1thout preJud1ce Publ1C Hear1ng Closed Mr Cook moved to approve CP 6 78 w1th the condltlons prov1ded 1n the Staff Report seconded by Mr R1pperdan 01SCUSS10n followed Mr Cov1ngton stated he was opposed to one common water meter and asked Mr Watson about same Mr Watson stated that one master meter was prov1ded for two unlts Motlon passed by the follow1ng vote AYES Knapp Cook R1pperdan Cov1ngton NOES Lannl ng Resolut10n 1155 Tentatlve Tract Map 10421 Mr R1pperdan moved to approve subJect to payment of the 1n lleu fee of~$840 seconded by Mr Cook and passed by the followlng vote "" AYES Cook Knapp R1pperdan Cov1ngton \ } NOES Lann1ng Resolut10n 1156 ~ ~ 1 ~ j F James R Watson CP 7 78 It App11cant lS requestlng a Condltlona1 Use Permlt to allow converSlon of a duplex lnto a two unlt condomlnlum at 310 16th Street Pub11C Hearlng Opened Mr Watson stated he would add an addltlona1 water meter to the proJect Mr Cook questloned the common water area Mr Watson stated each yard would be prlvate and that there was no common water Pub11C Hearlng Closed Mr Covlngton moved to approve CP=7 78 wlth condltlons provlded In the Staff Report seconded by Mr Knapp and passed by the fo1lowlng vote AVES Knapp Cook Rlpperdan Covlngton NOES Lannlng Resolutlon 1157 Tentatlve Tract Map 10422 Mr Rlpperdan moved to approve tentatlve tract map 10421 subJect to In 11eu fee payment of $840 seconded by Mr Cook and passed by the fo110wlng vote AVES Knapp Covlngton Rlpperdan Cook Noes Lannlng Resolutlon 1158 ~ -- G Resldentla1 Constructlon In the Coastal Dlstrlct In Excess of 20 Unlts Per Acre .- Secretary presented a Staff Report WhlCh revlewed prevlous Commlsslon hearlngs on thlS subJect PubllC Hearlnq Opened Ken Smlth 141 Do1phln Avenue spoke In favor of low dens1ty statlng that h1S dec1s10n to remodel hlS house rather than bUlld unlts was hlS attempt to retaln a low denslty resldentlal character In hlS nelghborhood Ray Stout 154 12th Street spoke In favor of low denslty In order to malntaln a slngle famlly character In the Coastal Dlstrlct Lawrence Peters 211 Ocean Avenue spoke In favor of hlqher denslt es In order to allow more faml11es to 11ve 1n the Clty H1S experlence does not show that renters are translents Bl11 Lore 140 6th Street spoke In favor of low densltles Randy Jones 505 Galleon Way spoke In favor of low densltles to retaln unlque small town atmosphere Dean Dobklns 208 2nd Street spoke In favor of low denslty cltlng the tranSlent nature of the occupants In the four recently constructed duplexes In hlS area Harold Lush spoke In favor of hlgh denslty and referred to a letter In the Plannlng Commlsslon S packet George Re1ckneckner spoke In favor of hlgh denslty Josle Greeley 1629 Seal Way spoke In favor of low denslty and spoke about the rlghts of people In a nelghborhood to not be lmpacted by apartments Jlm Watson 100 Maln Street spoke In favor of low denslty and spoke about property value to developers belng based on what can bUl1t on the property Jlm Gl1kerson 1011 E1ectrlc Avenue spoke 1n favor of low denslty and spoke about speculators effects on property values Frank Burslnger 16th Street Allce Kubernlck 160 12th Street Mary Stegen 16th Street Ken Hendorf 3rd Street all spoke In favor of low densltles Lawrence Peters Jr 211 Ocean Avenue spoke In favor hlgh denslty statlng that approxlmately 250 lots would be bUllt upon lf h1Qh denslty was permltted - e Pete Peters 12th & Electrlc spoke In favor of low denslty based on quallty of 11fe Russ Monroe 128 Maln Street spoke In favor of hlgh denslty statlng that the varlOUS soclal problems In the Clty wl11 not be cured by low denslty Tom Greeley 1629 Seal Way spoke In favor of low dens1ty Maur1ce Monroe 138 Maln Street spoke 1n favor of hlgh dens1ty and freedom of cholce Chl Kredell 1615 Seal Way spoke In favor of low denslty and submltted to the Commlsslon photos of many recently constructed or remodeled slngle fam11y resldences Many of these homes were owned by pel sons wlth school age chl1dren Jean Berryhl11 308 Central spoke In favor of low denslty Publ1C Hearlng Closed Covlngton stated that he favors 20 unlts per acre 11mlt on development The Clty has had a trend toward low dens1ty S1nce 1969 There has been a lot of change In the Clty 1n the last 13 years wlth more un1ts added and more automobl1es W1thout a 11mlt on development there 1S a danger of 10s1ng the s1ngle faml1y resldence In the Coastal 01str1ct By lowerlng the denslty In the Coastal 01strlct the speculatlve market should decrease Cook stated that he agrees wlth the wlshes of the communlty to preserve s1ngle faml1y resldences but does not agree wlth the proposed means to achleve the ends The proposal for low denslty wl11 pass on approxlmately 200 lots the burden of solvlng problems not created by them There should be lncentlves to malntaln s1ngle famlly res1dences and dlslncentlves for multlple famlly unlts Cook noted that recent remodels and new constructlon of slnqle faml1y resldences does not hold addltlonal setbacks or provlde open space on the lots If low denslty 1S approved most propertles wl11 be nonconform1ng and the Commlsslon may change ltS POllCY and prohlblt addltlons to non conformlng propertles The Clty should look 1nto methods of reduclng densltles In over crowded areas rather than slmply reduce densltles everywhere e Rlpperdan was of the oplnlon that zonlng of speclflc areas should be used to 11mlt densltles Covlngton moved to recommend to Clty Councl1 that densltles In the Coastal 01strlct be 11mlted to 20 Unlts per acre Seconded by Knapp AYES Lannlng Knapp Covlngton Rlpperdan Noes Cook Resolutlon No 1159 e 5 ) ) Comm1SS10ner Cook suggested adopt1ng a resolut10n request1ng C1ty Counc1l to jIt d1rect the Publ1C Works Department to str1pe all alleys to legal w1dths d1rect ~/ the Traff1c D1v1s10n to enforce by c1t1ng v10lators and veh1cle owners who 1mpede pedestr1an r1ght of way by park1ng veh1cles on and across publ1C sldewalks Seconded by Mrs Lann1nQ and unan1mously approved by members present Resolut10n 1160 Comm1SS10ner Cook also suggested adopt1ng a resolut10n llm1ted res1dent park1ng st1ckers to one per dwell1ng un1t D1Scuss10n followed It was the op1n10n of the Comm1ss10n that th1S 1tem should be held over unt1l the August 19th meet1ng 5 Oral Commun1cat10ns There were no oral commun1cat10ns 6 Wr1tten Commun1cat10ns . Secretary noted that Hunt1ngton Beach w1ll have a study seSS10n w1th ~ C A G on August 8 1978 at 7 00 P M All other wr1tten commun1cat10ns were w1th spec1f1c Agenda Items 7 New Bus1ness A Ph1ll1P and L1nda Ollver Tentat1ve Tract ~1ap 1042~ Appl1cants are request1ng approval of tentat1ve tract map 10428 for construct10n of a three un1t condom1n1um at 125 10th Street Appl1cants were not present and Mrs Lann1ng suggested hold1ng 1tem over unt1l August 19th so that the appl1cants may be present M t 0 d , 1 1nu e r er i B D1Scuss10n of Landscap1ng Requ1rements for Commerc1al Development ?~ Secretary subm1tted to the Comm1ss10n a survey of landscap1ng requ1rements by other c1t1es and w1ll provde a report for the Comm1ss10n on August 19th C In L1eu Park Fees Comm1ss10ner Cov1ngton suggested that a th1rd method be cons1dered relat1ng to a fee based on a percentage of value of the sale pr1ce per un1t Secretary stated he would consult the C1ty Attorney as to legal1ty Further report w1ll be subm1tted to the Comm1ss10n on August 19th D Res1dent1al M1xes 1n the C1ty Comm1ss10ner Cook stated that the zon1ng process establ1shes a m1X 1n the C1ty No further d1Scuss10n was requ1red M1nute Order ~ e --- 8 Secretary Report Secretary reported to the Comm1ss10n that the Lumber Yard at the Ed1son Tr1angle Development would be gOlng out of bus1ness Mr Watson prov1ded add1t10nal 1nformat10n on the econom1C d1ff1cult1es of relocat1ng the Lumber Yard and the attempts by var10US people to f1nance the relocat10n Mr Uatson asked the Comm1ss10n for suggest10ns for the Lumber Yard slte Mr R1pperdan asked Mr Watson about the poss1b1l1ty of off1ce space Mr Watson stated lS was not econom1cally feas1ble Mr Cov1ngton suggested a comb1nat10n Hardware Lumber Yard - . . Mr Watson commented that there was not enough yard storage area for such a comblnatlon Mr Covlngton suggested a Standard Brand Palnt store Mr Cook suggested a Motel Mr Watson stated he would look lnto further posslbllltles of all suggestlons and would report to the Commlsslon at a later date Mr Knapp advlsed the Commlsslon that he would be on vacatlon for the next meetlng Meetlng adJourned at 12 20 P M ~ ~