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Home My WebLink AboutPC Min 1979-01-17 7' MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 17. 1979 e THE PLt\lmING cOmU:SSION MET IN REGULAR SESSIaN ON WEDNESDAY JANUARY 17 1979 IN THE COUNCIL Clf.AMBERS OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING 211 8th STREET THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRMAN RI'PPERDAN AT 7 30 P M AND THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG WAS LED BY VICE-CHARIMAN COVINGTON PRESENT ABSENT Knapp Cook Le1bert R1pperdan Covington None M1nutes of the January 3 1979 meeting were approved as subm1tted There were no Oral Commun1cat1ons .... There were no Wr1tten Commun1cat1ons 1 UNFINISHED BUSINESS ~ A 7-Eleven and W1nchell s Donut Shop (cont1nued) e Secretary presented an overall Staff Report on the proJect The appl1cants are before the Comm1ss1on to present add1t1onal 1nformat1on on quest10ns ra1sed by the Plann1ng Comm1ss1on dur1ng preV10us meet1ngs on the proJect Stanley Gordon Attorney represent1ng the appl1cant stated that he and representat1ves from 7-11 would attempt to respond to the Comm1ss1on s quest10ns a Type of del1very veh1cles Each use would have del1ver1es by tractor-tra1ler trucks W1nchells would have one (1) del1very per week 7-11 would have one (1) tractor tra1ler del1very per week as well as smaller truck deliver1es b Exterior 11ghting Light1ng 1S shown on the plans c Gr~er School Compat1bi11ty Three (3) letters were subm1tted to the Comm1ss1on from other school s W1th 7-Eleven s near by d Traff1C Increase oy the ProJect 4 4 cars per hour 1ncrease e 24 hour Operat1on Both uses want 24 hour operat1ons f Compat10111ty of the Uses Mr Gordon referred to the three (3) letters from the schools Steve W1111ams Southland Corporat1on stated that the beer and W1ne request was w1thdrawn 1n order to be more compatible and that 'l. a 7-Eleven would have one (1) employee per work sh1ft b Cr1me was addressed prev10usly by Mr Salcido c Pedestr1an-veh1cle confl1cts probably would be handled by the presence of a Cross1ng-Guard d Ne1gDborhood survey was not done however letters were sent to f1ve (5) commun1ty leaders (copies subm1tted to the Commiss1on) e A traff1c survey was conducted 1n Newport Beach at Balhba and 20th Street before the construct1on of a 7-11 and after construct1on was completed e Mr Cov1ngton asked about the traff1c survey methodology Mr W1111ams repl1ed to the quest10n stat1ng that the traff1c survey 1nvolved one (1) 15 m1nute count on one (1) daY' only Mr Covington asked about the locat1on of the three (3) 7-Eleven stores 1n relat1onsh1p to schools Mr Wil11ams sa1d that one was at the edge of a football f1eld one was / block away and he d1dn t remember hQW close the .,... s e e . .,. l I, .... , tht~d school was to the store Mr Cov1ngton asked 1f all three stores sold beer and wine Mr W1111ams repl1ed that all three stores d1d infact sell beer and W1ne Mrs Le1bert spoke 1n favor of the proJect based on zon1ng and the proJect s compl1ance w1th the Ord1nance Mr Covington asked about traff1c volumes on the streets near the schools who had subm1tted letters 1n favor of 7-Eleven Mr W1111ams d~d not have that information ava1lable Mr R1pperdan asked about school ch1ldren s patronage of the stores dur1ng school hours Mr W1111ams stated that the operations w111 cooperate w1th the school to send ch!l4ren~the s~hool or home if problems ar1sjL_~ Cook qu.,g~.Q...ned the contents .9C~he let~rs senS-o to the schools as to why they 1nqu1red about the_operat1on of the school 1nstead oftne cn1Idren~emselveS'-' Mr-WiiIJ:ams stated the letter was a form letter and assumed contents were adequate Mr Cov1ngton asked about the responses to the letters sent to the commun1ty leaders Mr Wil11ams stated he rece1ved two (2) responses from the f1ve (5) sent Mr Knapp again ~suggested that the people 1n the area be surveyed 1n a door to door survey Mr W1111ams responded to Mr Cov1ngton s quest10n stat1ng that he contacted the people who were most vocal at the previous meetings Extens1ve d1scussion followed on dollar volume and the percentage of sales dur1ng the three (3) sh1fts at the 7-Eleven store Mr W1111ams 1n response to a quest10n stated that most clean1ng and restock1ng of shelves takes place dur1ng the Grave-yard sh1ft Mr Cov1ngton asked for 1nformatjon on the econom1C 1mpact of no 24 hour serV1ce and no beer and W1ne Mr Cook quest10ned the use based on a sect10n of the Land Use Element of the General Plan dealing with commun1ty enhancement Secretary stated that the Staff Report shmuld be upheld and responded to a quest10n by the Comm1ss1on stating that the General Plan 1S general 1n nature and the Zon1ng Ord1nance 1S more legally val1d than the General Plan as the Ord1nance 1S more specific Mr Cov1ngton moved to cont1nue the matter to the February 7th meet1ng 1n order to obta1n add1t1onal 1nformat1on on quest10n #7 of Resolut1on 1178 Staff was directed to confer with the C1ty Attorney as to the 1mplicat1ons of the Statements on page two (2) of the Land Use Element seconded by Mr Cook After a d1scuss1on a call for the quest10n was made AYES NOES R1pperdan Le1bert Cook Cov1ngton Knapp MINUTE ORDER Vote on motion to cont1nue the matter to February 7 1979 AYES NOES Knapp Cook Le1bert Cov1ngton R1pperdan MOTION PASSED B Jacqueline K1111am, 216 7th Street (conunued) V...... 11 I A request for determ1nat1on on a park1ng plan for a duplex was cons1dered by the Plann1ng Comm1ss1on on January 3 1979 The matter was cont1nued to g1ve the architect an opportun1ty to evaluate other parking des1gns James Pul11am arch1tect stated that he rev1ewed other park1ng des1gns but none were pract1cal The appl1cant was d1rected to apply for a Var1ance 1f they w1shed formal cons1derat1on of the or1g1nal park1ng des1gn '" ~ ..to 2 NEW BUSINESS e A D1Scuss1on 01; Landscapmg 1n M-l ZONE e :t e <\ Secertary presented a report suggesting that the landscapmg requ1rements in all non-res1dent1al zones De 1ncreased to 10/ of the s1te plus one (1) tree for each f1ve park1ng stalls equally distr1buted 1n the park1ng area The Commiss1on favored the concept Staff will adv~rt1ze the matter for Publ1c Hear1ng~at a future meeting B D1Scussion of Amateur Rad1b An~enna Heights " 11 Secretary presented a Staff Report w1th a suggest10n that the amateur rad10 antenna he1ght prOV1S1ons be amended to allow a 40 (atjresting he1ght) antenna MaJor Tom 712 Balboa spoke in favor of the proposed change Extens1ve discuss10n followed on antenna he1ghts number of hams 1n the C1ty electron1c 1nterference f1lter1ng perce1ved problems in other communit1es and antenna I he1ghts in other commun1t1es Cov1ngton suggested that the prov1sions be amended to 11m1t the overall height to 60 and to return the antenna to rest1ng he1ght at least once 1n each 24 hour per10d The matter was cont1nued and Staff was directed to survey surround1ng c1t1es to determ1ne the1r he1ght regulations C D1Scuss1on of Statute of L1mitat1ons for Attack1ng Zon1ng Dec1s1ons/ I Counc11 s suggest10n that a 30 day per10d Cook unan1mously approved \- Secretary presented a Staff Report incorporat1ng City a 60 day Statute of Llm1tations be adopted 1nstead of moved to adopt Resolut1on 1181 seconded by Knapp and RESOLUTION 1181 . Cha1rman R1pperdan recogn1zed Stanley Gordon represent1ng 7-Eleven Mr Gordon ) asked the Comm1ss1on to reopen dtscuss10n on the 7-Eleven/W1nchell s proJect -.,. because 7-Eleven s computer was not capable of prov1d1ng some of the volume- do1Iar-t1me data and 7-Eleven d1d not wish to do a ne1ghborhood survey He asked the Comm1ss1on to act on the proJect 1mmed1ately After a brief d1scuss1on the Comm1ssion determ1ned to not reopen d1scuss1on They w1sh to have quest10n #7 of Resolution 1178 answered Matter cont1nued to February 7 1979 ... 3 REPORT FROM SECRETARY L .!?].s~sion of Draft S1gn Ordinance Secretary stated that the Draft S1gn Ord1nance represented all poss1ble s1gn prov1s10ns that a C1ty may adopt The Comm1ss1on has the opportun1ty to change mod1fy or delete any of the prov1s1ons All comments have not been rece1ved from the C1ty Departnents and C1ty Attorney at th1s t1me and so the changes suggested could further bemmod1f1ed in the future Secretary suggested a number of add1t1ons and changes The Commiss1on d1scussed a number of prov1sions offer1ng changes oJ Secretary requested the Commiss1on to carefully reV1ew the draft 1nsert changes and subm1t the1r cop1es of the draft to Staff for 1ncorporat1on 1nto a 1st draft reV1S1on for future d1scuss1on Cook asked Staff to prov1de 1nformat1on on the probable number of architectural review board cases per week 4 .... ( '- Cook also asked Staff to present the sl1de show on arch1tectural 1tems to the Plann1ng~Comm1ss10n so the CommlSS10n would have the same 1nformat10n that was presented to C1ty Counc11 The Comm1SS10n asked for a status report on the Hellman property There have been no new developments to date and so far representat1ves of Lusk Company have not returned the Plann1ng D1recto~s calls as to the1r future development of the property "< Marina Palace S1te - The developer has encountered problems ohta1n1ng a comm1tment as to the cost of Haynes Steam Plant Road Southern Cal1forn1a Edison owner of Haynes Steam Plant Road 1S planning to close the road due to liab111ty Should the developer come to terms with Southern{Cal1forn1a Ed1son on Haynes Road Staff w111 inform the developer of Staff concerns w1th park1ng layout and the need for a load1ng zone ). Meet1ng was adJourned at 10 45 P M ..... .J' ;? ~ t; -\~Y~~~ifr"Au cor ing Secretar. ' /' ..... Ir "- t .r '( e " ~ " ... Ie . '10' ,. ~