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MINUTES OF THe: PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 16, 1972
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH MET IN REGULAR SESSION IN THE
COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. THE MEETING WAS OPENED AT
7:40 P.M. BY CHAIRMAN RIPPERDAN AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WAS LED BY MR. KNAPP.
PRESENT: HAMMON, KNAPP, lANNING, RIPPERDAN
ABSENT: DUNI\I
MR. DUNN'S ABSENCE WAS EXCUSED.
THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF AUGUST 2, 1972, WERE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
SECRETARY REPORTED ON REQUESTED ACTIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ADDITIONAL
PARCELS OF LAND TO BE CONSIDERED F<R INCWSION IN THE OPEN SPACE/RECREATION
ELEM8'.IT OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND POSSIBLE REZONIr-G OF A 7.85 ACRE PARCEL ADJACENT
TO COLLEGE PARK EAST. MRS. LANNING MOVED TO CONSIDER THESE ITEMS AT AN ADJOURNED
MEETING ON AUiUST 21 OR 22. SECONDED BY MRS. HAtJMOND AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY
THE MEMBERS PRESENT. BY GENERAL AGREEMENT, THE ADJOURNED MEETING WILL BE t-ELD
ON MONDAY, AUGUST 21, AT 7:30 P.M.
1. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. SOUTHRICH CO., CZ-l-72
APPLICANT REQUESTED A CHANGE OF ZONE FROM C-2-PP TO C-2 ON A 36,000 SQ. FT. PARCEL
OF LAND LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, NORTHWEST OF AND
ADJACENT TO 490 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. HEARING OPENED. TIM UNGER, REPRESENTING
SOUTHRICH CO., SUMMARIZED THE REQUEST AM> STATED THEY tW) BEEN UNABLE TO FIM> A
BUYER FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO DEVELOP AS REQU I RED UN>ER THE PREC I SE PLAN. HE CONTENDS
THE SITE IS TOO SMALL FOR THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT. HE FELT SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS
IN OTHER CITIES WERE USUALLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OTHER USE AND MUTUAL PARKING
WAS AVAILABLE. THIS CHANGE OF ZONE \-l>ULD PROVIDE TtEM WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY.
AFTER CONCERN WAS EXPRESSED REGARDING TYPES OF USES UNDER THE REQUESTED ZONING,
THE SECRETARY READ THE PERMITTED USES. GORDON SHANKS, 215 SURF, ASKED IF THE
PROPERTY WAS IN THE JURISDICTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. SECRETARY STATED
IT IS AND EXPLAINED THAT THE AG8\\CY AND COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE FINAL ACTION.
JOSEPH ONESTY, 459 GALLEON WAY, STATED HIS PROPERTY OVERLOOKED THIS PARCEL AND
UNDERSTOOD A NICE RESTAURANT WOULD BE THERE. FEELS MANY OF HIS NEIGHBORS BOUGHT
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING. HE ASKED ABOUT PREVIOUS ZONING. SECRETARY ADVISED C-l.
BEVERLY CASARES STATED OWNER HAD REQUESTED THE PRECISE USE AND IT SHWLD NOT BE
RESCINDED. NEIGHBORS DO NOT WANT A ''MCDONALD'' TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SHE ASKED
THE PLANNING COt+1ISSION TO DO AN IM>EPTH STUDY OF THE PROPERTY FOR ITS BEST USE.
TO\1 KING, 484 GALLEON WAY, FELT A FAST SERVICE FOOD ESTABLISI-MENT SHOULD NOT BE
LOCATED ADJACENT TO AN R-l AREA AND THAT THERE ARE ALREADY 8\\OUGH OF TH I S TYPE
OF BUSINESS IN THE HIGHWAY AREA. ROY K>RRIS, 400 COASTLINE, AND MRS. BERG, 430
COASTLINE, SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGE. MRS. HAMMON) FELT C-2 WOULD NOT
UPGRADE PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY AND THE C-O AND C-l ZONES MIGHT BE CONSIDERED AS
MORE ADAPTABLE. SECRETARY ADVISED IT WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED C-l. MRS. CASARES
SAID NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD PREFER C-O IF ANY CHAl\GE IS MADE. MR.
UNGER FELT THIS COULD BE INVERSE CONDEMNATION. MIRIAM SKINNER, 125 6TH ST.,
STATED THE AREA SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GREEN BELT, BUT IF A MCOONALDS QR SIMILAR WERE
ALLOWED TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WOULD BE CREATED. HEARING CLOSED. DISCUSSION FOLLOWED
BY THE COMMISSION WITH THE FEELIt\G THAT THE PARCEL COULD BE DEVELOPED AS PRESCRIBED
IN THE PRECISE PLAN. MR. KNAPP MOVED TO DENY THE CHANGE OF ZONE AND REQUEST A
STUDY OF THE BEST USE. SECONDED BY MRS. LANNING AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE
MEMBERS PRESENT. RESOWTiON NO. 662.
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B. DETERMINATIOf\.I OF ZOf\.IE
(1) MOBILE HOME PARK
A REQUEST WAS MADE FOR A DETERMINATION OF ZONE FOR MOBILE H<M: PARK. STAFF
RECa+1ENDED THIS BE CONSIDERED AS AN 'UNCLASSIFIED USE' SU&JECT TO THE ISSUANCE
OF AN UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS AND EFFECTS OF A MOBILE
HOME PARK. SECRETARY REVIEWED SURVEY OF PROCEDURES BY OTHER CITIES. HE ALSO
BROUGHT UP THE C().MJNI~TIONS RECEIVED ALONG WITH PETITIONS FROM RESIDENTS OF
THE SEAL BEACH TRAILER PARK AT 11 MARINA DRIVE SEEKING ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY
TO PREVENT THEIR RELOCATION. LETTERS FROM AND TO MAYOR HOLDEN AND THE ATTORNEYS
FOR THE LESSEE OF THE TRAILER PARK AND OWNER OF THE LAND WERE FURNISHED. HEARING
OPEN. MR. AUSTIN, 11 MARINA DRIVE, REVIEWED HISTORY OF POSSIBLE CLOSING OF THE
EXISTING TRAILER PARK, COMMITTEE OF RESIDENTS FORMED TO CONTACT OWNERS AND THE
VARIOUS IMPRESSIOf\.IS RECEIVED FROM THE OW'o.lERS. BECAUSE OF THE AGE AND INCOME OF
MANY OF THE TENNANTS, A HARDSHIP EXISTS AND THE DANGLING SITUATI~ IS UPSETTING.
HE STATED THE RESIDENTS WERE WILLING TO PAY lARGER RENTS AND HOPED TO MAKE IT
AS INVITING TO THE OWNERS AS AN R-3 DEVEL.OPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. MR. LOMONIC~
POINTED OUT THE REAL NEED WAS FOR LOW COST tWSING AND THE EXISTING TRAILER
PARK SERVES THIS PURPOSE AI\l) APPEALED TO Tt-e COMMISSION FOR ASSISTANCE" HE EXPlAINED
AT LENGTH ABOUT THE PROBLEM AND POSSIBLE SOWTlONS THAT WOULD BE EQUITABLE TO THE
OIIINER. MRS. SHEELEY WHO HAD MOVED INTO THE TRAILER 'PARK SIX WEEKS AGO SPOKE THAT
IT HAD BEEN MISREPRESENTED ON THE TIME FOR RELOCATION. SHE PLEAD IN BEHALF OF '
PEOPLE WHO .MAKE, THEIR t-OES THERE. MRS. OORR, 231 6TH ST., ADVISED SHE HAD BEEN
INVESTIGATING THIS PROBLEM AND FELT OWNERS SHQJLD BE PREVAILED UPON TO HELP.
MARGARET HUGGINS HAS LIVED IN THE PARK FOR 2~ YEARS AND SPOKE THAT NO WARNING OF
END OF LEASE WAS GIVENo SHE MADE ALLEGATI~S THAT ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFIC1ALS
WERE NOT TRULY REPRESENTINi THE PEOPLE. MR. CLRLETTE SPOKE WITH THE MINORITY
OPINION THAT DISCRIMINATION WORKS BOTH WAYS AND POINTED OUT THAT LAND OWNER HAS
S<>>1E RIGHTS TOO. MR. SEBORG BROUGHT OUT THAT FACT THAT ZONINi HAD BEEN IN EFFECT
FOR THIRTY YEARS AND TRAILER PARKS HAD NEVER BEEN A p,ERMITTED USE. HE DIRECTED
ATTENTION TO A SECTION OF THE CODE WHICH PROVIDES FOR ABATEMENT OF NONCONFORMING
TRAILER PARKSo SECRETARY CONFIRMED THIS POINT AND ADVISED THAT COt+1ISSION COULD
RECOMMEND AN AMENDMENT TO DELETE THIS SECTION IF DESIREDo MR. LOMONICA FELT THAT
PEOPLE HAD RIGHT TO REMAIN AND ASKED THAT THE CITY CHANGE THE ZONEo SECRETARY
ClARIFIED WHO HAS RIGHT TO REQUEST CHANGE OF ZONEo
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MR. RIPPERDAN EXPlAINED THE PURPOSE OF EFFECT OF THIS ,PUBLIC HEARING. HE ALSO'
EXPlAINED THAT THE ACTION UNDER CONSIDERATION WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT OR PRESERVE
ANY EXISTING TRAILER PARKo HE ADVISED THE PROCEDURE NECESSARY TO CHANGE A ZONE.
AFTER SUCH A ZONE WERE ESTABLISHED WaJLD TAKE A GR~T, DEAL OF TIME. MITZI MORTON,
13TH ST., UNDERSTOOD THAT EACH CITY WAS REQUIRED TO DESIGNATE AN AREA FOR LOW COST
tWSING AND FELT THIS TRAILER PARK AREA SHOULD BE SO DESIGNATED. IT WAS EXPlAINED
THAT THE REQUIREMENTS BY THE STATE ARE THAT THE CITY MUST MEET ALL NECESSITIES FOR
ITS CITIZENS. MRS. DORR POINTED OUT THAT THE PARK WOULD BE GONE BEFORE ALL LEGAL
PROCEDURES HAD BEEN FULFILLED. MR. KNAPP POINTED OUT THE TWOFOLD PROBLEM. ONE-
NEED TO FIND PROPER ZONE FOR PROCEDURE FOR MOBILE HOME PARK, AND TWO - PROPER ZONE
FOR THE PROPERTY WHERE THE EXISTING TRAILER PARK IS LOCATED. DISCUSSION OF ONE
YEAR EXTENSION BY OWNERS AS RElATED IN LETTERS. MRS. SKINNER SUGGESTED THE CITY
ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY. HEARING CLOSED. MR. KNAPP MOVED TO DETERMINE THAT A MOBILE
f-D.1E PARK BE PERMITTED UNDER AN UNClASSIFIED USE PERMIT SU&JECT TO DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS PH) RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AMEND THE ZONING APPENDIX, ARTICLE 16,
TO INCLUDE THIS USE. SEC<H>ED BY MRSo LANNING AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE
MEMBERS PRESENT. RESOLUTION NO. 663.
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MR. KNAPP MOVED FOR THE PLANNING C<Mr1ISSION TO INITIATE ACTION TO CHANGE ZONE
AT EXISTING TRAILER PARK SITE. DISCUSSION FOLLOWED AS TO WHAT Z~E. SECRETARY
EXPLAINED THAT A MOBILE HOME PARK ZONE WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED AND ADOPTED
PRIOR TO LAND BEING ZONED WITH SUCH A DESIGNATION. HE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT THE
PREVIOUS ACTION WOULD PERMIT A MOBILE t01E PARK IN ANY ZONE IF THE COMMISSION
DEEMED IT TO BE A COMPATIBLE USE. DISCUSSION AS TO WK) COULD INITIATE REQUEST
FOR UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT WITH THE RESULT THAT THE STAFF IS TO GET AN OPINION
FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND REPORT AT THE ADJOURNED MEETING OF AUGUST 21. MR.
JAY COVINGTON ASKED WHAT ACTION COULD BE TAKEN THE QUICKEST TO GIVE RELIEF TO
THE TRAILER PARK. HE WAS ADVISED THAT CERTAIN ACTIONS COULD BE INITIATED BY THE
COt+1ISSION, BUT NONE OF THEM COULD GUARANTEE THE TRAILER PARK WOULD REMAIN. OWNER
OF PROPERTY COULD STILL CLEAR THE LAND. MR. La-1ONICA ASKED ABOJT A LOW COST
HOUSING ZONE. THIS USUALLY THROUGH A HOUSIf\G AUTHORITY AND THE ATTORNEY'S
ADVICE \<<)uLD BE NEEDED. MR. KNAPP'S MOTIa-J DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
CHAIRMAN DECLARED A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. MEETING RECONVENED AT Ul:25 P.M.
B. DETERMINA TI ON OF ZONE
(2) SWAP MEET
SECRETARY REVIEWED SURVEY OF OTHER CITIES, POINTED OUT ~T THE CITY CroE PROVIDES
FOR LICENSING AND CONDUCT AND RECOMMENDED THAT THIS USE BE DETERMINED AS "UNCLASSIFIED"
ON ADVICE OF THE ATTORNEY. HEARING OPEN. ED SMITH, 1660 NORTHWOOD, ADVISED THAT
THE POLICE CHIEF FELT THIS USE WOULD BE AN UNUSUAL BURDEN AND WOULD REQUIRE CLOSE
SUPERVISION. GORDON SHANKS, 215 SURF, CONCURRED WITH MR. SMITH AND ADDED THAT
TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND CRIMINAL PROBLEMS WOULD BE INCREASED. HE FELT THAT GARAGE
SALES WERE ABUSED AND THE CITY DID NOT NEED ANY OF THESE OPERATIONS. BEVERLY
CASARES SPOKE ON THE QUESTION. AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION, tEARING CLOSED. MRS.
HAMMOND MOVED TO DETERMINE THAT A SWAP MEET BE PERMITTED UNDER AN UNCLASSIFIED
USE PERMIT SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS NooID RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
AMEND THE ZONING APPENDIX, ARTICLE 16, TO INCLUDE THIS USE. SECONDED BY MR.
RIPPERDAN. IN DISCUSSION, MR. KNAPP FELT THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD RECOMMEND
THAT THE COUNCIL RESCIND THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR LICENSING OF SWAP
MEETINGS BECAUSE IT IS POORLY WRITTEN AND FAVORS A SINGLE INDIVIDU<<\L. MRS. LANNING
CONCURS.
AYES:
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HAMMOND, RI PPERDAN
KNAPP, LANNING
MOTION FAI LED.
MR. KNAPP MOVED TO REC<M1END TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT ORDINANCE NO. 826 BE RESCINDED
IN ITS ENTIRETY. SECONDED BY MRS. LANNING AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE MEMBERS
PRESENT. RESOLUTION NO. 664. CHAIRMAN DIRECTED STAFF TO PREPARE RESOLUTION
OPPOSING SWAP MEETS IN THE CITY.
2. ORAL CC>>MJN I CATIONS
CHAIRMAN ASKED SECRETARY TO REVIEW THE OPEN SPACE/RECREATION ELEMENT WHICH WILL BE
DISCUSSED ON AUGUST 21. DON EMERSON, MANAGER OF ORANGE COUNTY PROPERTIES FOR
BIXBY RANCH, STATED HE HAD JUST LEARNED- OF' :rHE' ACT'ION- 'By 'TI'iE' COUNCIL AND WAS
PLEASED COMMISSION ACTION WAS BEING DEFERRED TO MONDAY.
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GORDON SHANKS ASKED ABOUT THE LOT COVERAGE PROBLEM IN COLLEGE PARK EAST WHICH
~S REFERRED TO THE COMMISSION FOR STUDY. HE SUGGESTED THAT IT BE CONSIDERED
ON AUGUST 21 ALSO. MRS. HAMMOND FELT BOTH SUBJECTS, LOT COVERAGE AND OPEN SPACE,
TOO DEEP AND NEEDED SUFFICIENT TIME TO STUDY EACH.
MRS. DORR FELT THE 19 ACRE PARCEL OF BIXBY'S IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PARK AND THAT
SOME OF THE UNDEVELOPED LAND ADUACENT TO LEISURE WORLD SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
MR. COVINGTON REQUESTED THAT A COPY OF THE GENERAL PLAN NolD GENERAL PLAN MAP
BE AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT MEETING. HE AtSO ASKED THE TIME OF THE MEETING MID
SUGGESTED IT NOT START UNTIL 8:00 P.M. SECRETARY POINTED OUT IT HAD ALREADY
BEEN ANNOUNCED AT 7:30 P.M. AND PERSONS WHO HAD LEFT WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE
OF A CtW-JGE.
DISCUSSION OF VARIOUS PROCEDURES IN REZONING, AMENDING THE GENERAL PLAN AND
AFFECTS UPON THE CITY.
3. WRITTEN COMMUNICATI ONS
LETTER RECEIVED BY MAYOR SALES FROM F.ORMER COMMISSIONER O'TOOLE EXPRESSING
HIS APPRECIATION TO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Tt-ERE WAS NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
5. NEW BUS I NESS
A. JAMES CURLETTE, PR-12-72
APPLICANT SUBMITTED REVISED PLANS FROM THOSE APPROVED UNDER V-31-72 WITH ALL
MINIMUM CODE REQUIREMENTS BEING MET. HE REQUESTED RELIEF FROM CONDITION OF
THE VARIANCE FOR WET STANDPIPE AND FIRE HOSES. THE PlANS WERE ACCEPTABLE AS
PRESENTED AND MR. KNAPP MOVED TO APPROVE THEM. SECONDED BY MRS. LANNING AND
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. RESOLUTION NO. 665.
B. PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO CODE REGARDING
STRUCTURES IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES
STAFF PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT BE CONSIDERED TO ALLOW CERTAIN CHANGES TO NONCONFORMING
STRUCTURES WHEN THE NONCONFORMITY IS DUE TO NUMBER OF SIZE OF PARKING SPACES.
CONSENSUS OF COt+1ISSION WAS TO LEAVE CODE AS IS. A VARIANCE PROVIDES A METHOD TO
REQUIRE CERTAIN UPGRADING.
C. PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO CODE REGARDING RESTAURANTS
STAFF RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT PROCEEDINGS BE INITIATED TO MODIFY AND CLARIFY SOME
RESTAURANT DEFINITIONS. CHAIR ORDERED A PUBLIC HEARING BE SET AND ADVERTISED
TO CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL.
6. REPORT FROM SECRETARY
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SECRETARY REQUESTED CLARIFICATION OF INTENT ON CURBCUT RESTRICTIONS, WHETHER THE
INTENT WAS MANDITORY TO ENTER FROM STREET AND EXIT ON ALLEY. THIS NOT NECESSARY,
COMMISSION WOULD STUDY EACH CASE UNDER PLAN REVIEW.
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MR. ANTOS REPORTED ~ THE PARKING AT THE STAN MILLER BUILDING AND RESULTS OF
MEETING WITH MR. MILLER'S REPRESENTATIVE AND CITY DEPARTMENTS.
SECRETARY NEPRUD REPORTED ON ACCESS TO SURFS IDE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MR. KNAPP MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOWTION HONORING MR. O'TOOLE FOR HIS SERVICE
ON THE C~ISSION AND TO THE CITY. SECONDED BY MRS. LMNING AM) MR. RIPPERDAN
AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. RESOWTlON NO. 666.
NO FURnER BUSINESS1 THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 11:~O P.M. UNTIL MONDAY,
AUGUST 21 AT 7 :30 P.M.
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