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Home My WebLink AboutPC Min 1974-01-16 . . . e e MiNUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 160 1974 The Planning Commisslon of the City of Seal Beach met in ~egular session on Wednesdayo January 160 19740 in the Council Chamber of the Clty Admlnist~ation Buildlngo The meeting was called to o~der by Vice Chairman Lanning at 7:30 pomo and Mrso Hammond led the Pledge to the Flago Present: Cooko Hammondo Lann1ngo R1pperdan Abs~nt: Knapp M~o Knappos absence was e~cusedo The minutes of the meeting of Janua~y 2D 1974D and Janua~y 70 19740 were approved as presentedo The Secretary revlewed the public hea~lng procedureo 10 Public Hearings AD Bixby Ranch COoo Va38Q73 Applicant proposing to const~uct 60 condominlum units on 7025 acres and dedlcate 250086? sqo fto for a pa~k as required in the subdlvision ordinanceo Va~lance requested if for more than 10 unlts on a single pa~celo Secretary reviewed the application in detailo Hearing openo Ralph Martln of Walter Richardson and Assoc1ateso 230 Eo 13th StoD Costa Mesao represented the Bixby Ranch COD and made the presentatlon lncluding artlstOs conceptual drawlngs of the proposale He pOlnted out that the density would be 802 dwelling units per acre instead of maximum allowable under code of 22 DoUo/acreo He explalned the low profile and inward orientatlon to mlnimize conflict wlth nearby resldential streetso Mro Martln also revlewed their research regarding effect of the proJect on street traffico drainageo ~~dothe location of the parksiteo He pointed out that drainage from thlS slte would be furnished be separate fac11it1eso and that they were working with the city to alleviate the existing drainage problemo He d1scussed the wall and requested they be allowed to place some wal1sg earth bermso and landscaping along Lampson instead of a solid block wall for visual variety and beaut Yo He spoke of the possibility of noise problems from the Air Station and plans to provide sound attenuatlon through use of materlalso Mro Ro~ald CaseD Bixby Ranch COoo 523 Wo 6th Stoo Los Angeleso dlscussed thelr contacts with the Navy regi~d1~g this parcel through the years with no satiSfactory proposals worked outo Mro Martln revlewed the staff conditionsu asked for relief from the required 6 fto block wall alo~g Lampson as prevlously described and felt the center median benefited all citizens and should be funded by the cityo All other conditions were agreeableo Members of the Comm1ssion questioned him abcMt the emergency fire accesso or1entation of homeso trash plck=upo street w1dtho number of resldents, recreational faCl11tieso parkingo flood controlo Delmar Smitho 4540 FirD advised he had lived 1n the area 5~ years and was a m3mber of the executive board of the College Park Homeowners Associationo He commented on the hlstory of thlS parcel and stated homeowners were led to believe lt would be developed as a park and that the area tmuld contaln only single family homeso He summarized the bond election to acquire this parcelo . . . . e Mr. Smith also felt that a larger parksite was going to be provided with a pool as shown 1n some dra\'l1nqs. He adv1sed that those present at the last CPHA meetlng, a unanlmouS vote opposed the proposed parks1te. D1Scussion between Mr. Smith and Commlssloners reqardlnq type of park desired by the residents. Add1t1onal dlScusslon of what salespersons for developer represented to prospective buyers in rplatlon to facts aval1able through the Clty. Dleter Trost, 4196 Doqwood, asked for clarlflcatlon of varlance and number of units. Caro11ne See1, 4292 Dogwood, opposed park locatlon, asked about posslbl1ity of Clty purchas1nq additional land for better s1zed park and expressed concern about 1ight1ng along Lampson. Gene Blackman, Candleberry and Aster, worrled about flood1ng condltlons and park 10catlon. Jean Dorr, 231 6th St., reported on a conversatlon wlth the Clty Engineer regard1nq the floodlng cond1tlons. Frank Laszlo, 4480 Cand1eberry, spoke regarding the 10catlon of the park and flood1ng conditlons. Chair ordered at recess at 9:10 p.m. Reconvened at 9:20 p.m. Mr. Bob Dienstag, 4209 Cand1eberry, spoke about the noise problems, part1cu1arly those from hellcopters. Jay Covington, 4557 Candleberry, spoke reqarding the park slte, the Envlronmental Impact Report, and noise problems. He cited and read excerpts from the Press Te~egram regardlnq hlqh sulphur fuels, the E.I.R., and state laws. He felt areas of concern were additlons to trafflc, drainage, overflow parklnq by quests, and safety from alr accldents. He felt sound tests had been taken at the wronq times, and not when activit1es are at their hiqhest at the alr statlon. Mr. Cov1ngton advlsed the Commlss10n on posslble 11abl1ity for the City reqardlnq standards of the State Aeronautlcs Board and suqgested legal adVlce be'obtalned from the Clty Attorney. Steven Kenyon, 1201 Ocean, urged that sufflclent open space be requlred because it was a problem for the ent1re Clty. Lt. Cdr. Au1ward, UoA.S., advlscd the new commandlnq officer of the statlon 1S trYlng to obta1n authorlzatlon to acqulre the property by d1rect purchase or trade. He also conf1rmed the antlc1pated 140,000 operat10ns per year. Each, fllght 1S made up of three operatlonsi take-off, approach and landing. ~1r. Au1ward also conf1rmed that approx1mately 2/3 of the flights would take place on week ends. He adv1sed that addlt10nal sound studles were belng made and should be ava11ab1e as an addendum to the E.I.R. by the 1st of May. J1m Schmldt, presldent of College Park Homeowners Assoc1atlon reported that the Oranqe County Alrport Lands Commlsslon had frozen use of land northerly of the a1r stat10n and they should be contacted for the1r rullng concerning the proJect area. Mr. Schmldt also opposed the proposed 10cat10n of the park. Mr. Martln explalned that Blxby favored a paSSlve type of park, but C1ty staff want~d an actlve type. It was felt that the Bass\/ood/Aster locatlon was best for actlve uses. He further dlscussed the nOlse studles and the Alrport Land Use Commission. General dlScusslon and questlons and answers wlth Commissioners. Dave Recupero, consultant for B1Xby, clted an Orange County Alrport Department report stat1ng the hellcopter operatlon would be compatlble wlth ne1qhborlng land uses. The questlon of sufflclency of the E.IoR. was d1scussed and Secretary Neprud reviewed procedure for deteMm1nat10n by E.Q.C.B. After add1t1onal dlScussion the hear1ng was closed. Mrs. Hammond moved to approve Var1ance V-38-73 subJect to the cond1tlons (1) plan review by Commlsslon on the prlvate recreatlon area, (2) comb1nat10n of wall, earth berm and 1andscap1nQ along Lampson to mltlgate nOlse and subJect to staff approval, (3) Units to be constructed wlth gypsum board, flberg1ass and glass as shown on page 23 of the E.I.R., (4) landscap1ng to satlsfact10n of staff, (5) Vlsltor parking spaces to be permanently malntalned, (6) comp1lance wlth bUlldlng, englneerlnq and f1re department condltlons, and (7) no street parklng on lnterlor streets. Seconded by ~1r. Rlpperdan. After dlScusslon the motlon was amended by Mrs. Hammond with the . . .~ . . consent of the second to add condition numbe~ 8 "subJect to the approval of the tract map by the Cltyo" Motlon passed unan1mouslyo Resolution Noo 8030 10 Public Hearlngs Bo Tentmtlve Map for Tract Noo 8534 Mro Neprud explalned the tentatlve map and advised that one determ1natlon they should make would be a ~ecommendat'on to the City Councll ~egarding requirlng dedlcation of land or fees in lieu for park purposeso Hearlng openo Mro Cook felt addltlonal sound studies were necessary when typical week end air operatlons were in process at the Naval Air Stationo He was concerned about municipal l1ab1lity of approving a proJect that might not maet state standardso Mro Martln of Walter Rlcha~dson and Associates, representing Bixby Ranch COOg made no presentatlon, but reserved rebuttal rightso Mro Blac~man9 Candleberry and Asterg was concerned about hel1copter noise effect and possible negotiation to acqulre the property by the Navyo Jay COYlngton spoke about the activity level at the alr station to be hlgher than when studles were madeo He also read a section of the EoloRo relatlng to mil1tary aircraft and thelf compatibil1tyo Mro Ma~tin pointed @ut that the hel1copter actlvity was referred to as compatlbleo He expla1ned the dlfference in deClbQl ratings and a composite noise studyo He also pointed out that the [oloRo had been determined as sufficlent by the Envlronmental Qual1ty Control Boardo Hearlng closedo The Sec~etary advlsed that the Cammlssion should make recommendatlons to the Councl1 regarding the parksite, land or fees, and its locatlono If a change of location was recommended and the Counc1l concurso a revlsed tentatlve map would be neededo He also read portions of the staff report citing advantages and disadvantages of various 10catlons for the parko Mro Cook quest~one~ legal pOlnts regardlnq ~ound tests and the envlronmental- lmpact report for thlS proposed proJecto D1Scussion followed of location and use of parko Mrso Hammond moved to recommend approval of the t~ntative map by the City Council and that dedication of land for a parksite be requlred in lieu of feeso The following additional recommendations were mad~ to the Clty Council: If lt ;s determlned that the parkslte will be used as a tennis courtg it is recomm~nded that the park be located at Basswood and Aster as proposed on th~ tentative mapo If It 1S determlned that the parksit~ wll1 be used for other recreational purposeso it 1S recommended that it be located at the corner of Candleberry and Astero It is recommended that the City Council request that the Clty Attorney rend~r an opinion regarding the CityOs legal posit10n pertaining to approval of said proJect as it may relate to the StateBs Department of Aeronautics regulations affecting constructlon of low r1se ~esldentlal buildings wlthln the 65 CNEL Zone limitso (Community Noise Equivalent L~vels) Seconded by Mrso Lannlngo Mro Cook propos~d an amendment to the motlon recommendlng the Clty Council Os flnal approval be held until additional sound tests are taken under typical week end operating conditlons with the results referr~d to the City Attorney fo~ determlnation as to legallty y~der STate lawo S~conded by Mro Ripperdano . . . Vote on the amendment to the motion: AVES: Cookp Ripperdan NOES: Hammondp Lanning Motion faHedo Mr. Neprud requested that the orlginal motlon be amended to include recommendations pertaining to the perimeter wallp dedication of streetsp and bicycle trail system as required in the subdi~ision ordinanceo Mrso Hammond made the following addltlon to the motion with the consent of the second. It is additionally recommended that the requirements under the subdi~ision ordinance be wal~ed pertaining to the perl meter wallt dedication of streets, and bicycle trail system0 Vote on the amendment to the motion:was unanlmous appro~al by the members presento Vote on the amended motion: AVES: NOES: Hammondo Lanningp Ripperdan Cook Motion carried. Resolution Noo 804. 20 Oral Communlcatlons There were no oral communicatlonso . 3. Written Communlcations Letter from Charles R. Da~is9 4416 Dogwood, asked for relief from conditions imposed 1n the appro~al of Variance V=37-73o Mro Neprud ad~ised of alternatl~es open to the Commlss10n and Mro Reid ad~lsed of communications with other BUlldlng Departments as to their lnterpretatlons and requlrementso After discussion Mro Cook mo~ed to reconsider V=37=73 at a new pub11C hearingo Seconded by Mrso Hammond and passed unanimously by the members present. 40 New BlIsiness There was no new buslnesso 5. SecretaryOs Report Advised commlSS10n of communciation from Orange County Tax Collecter regardlng seqregation of propertles wlthin the Cityo ThlS notice referred to Mro Solomon1s proJect pre~ious1y approved by the Commlss10no Discussion of requlrements to meet flnanclal disclosure lawo Staff to get more informatlon from the City Attorneyo No further businesso the meetlng was adJourned at 12:10 aom. .~~ Recordlng Secretary ./