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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 16, 1988
MINUTES
The Planning Comm1SS1on of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session, in C1ty Council Chambers, with Chairman Sharp calling
the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ~T.T.RGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Jessner.
ROLL ~T.T.
Present: Chairman Sharp
Commiss1oners Suggs, F1fe, Jessner
Absent: Commissioner Rullo had an excused absence.
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Present: Ed Knight, Director, Development Services Dept.
Elline Garcia, Admin. Aide, Develop. Srvcs. Dept.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A.
Minutes of october 19, 1988
B. Plan Review 14-88
301 OCean Ave., 13, Seal Beach
MOTION by Jessner to approve Consent Calendar items nAn and nBn.
with the provision that Resolution No. 1523 be reviewed by staff
to be certain that CUP 9-88 did state no alcoholic beverages are
to be sold at the Mobile station at 12240 Seal Beach Boulevard.
MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CUP 11-87
2938 Westminster Blvd.
Seaside Deli
Resolution No. 1524
Ms. Garcia presented the staff's report on Condit1onal Use Permit
11-87 which is a request to extend indefinitely an existing CUP
for an on-sale beer and wine license in conjunction with an
existing restaurant/delicatessen known as the Seaside Deli in the
First Federal Plaza. The applicant is Juliet B. Vidanes and the
property owner is George Cheng. Ms. Garcia said staff inspected
the property and noted the existence of a satellite dish antenna
for which no permits are on file; this is in direct violation of
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the City's municipal~. The applicant was notified of this
fact by mail. staff noted the app11cant was not present at the
present Plann1ng Commission meeting and has not contacted the
Department of Development Services regarding a building permit.
Ms. Garcia noted that the Chief of Police's not1ce is on file
with the Planning Department although it was not included in the
packet; Mr. Jessner said he would l1ke to see it.
Comm1ssion Comments
Comm1ssioner Jessner asked staff if staff felt the applicant was
not interested in correcting the exist1ng Code violation.
Ms. GarC1a said she d1dn't know because the applicant was sent
two letters stating the necessity of their compliance but staff
has had no reply. Ms. Garcia said she believed the satellite
dish was within the height limitations for C-2 zoning which is 35
feet but that it needed screening. commissioner Jessner sa1d he
had looked at the site and noticed the applicant is violating
CUP 11-87's condition #4 which says no alcoho11C beverages w1ll
be advertised in the window areas. He noted there were about
8 - 10 lighted neon signs in the w1ndow advertising alcoholic
beverages.
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In responding to Chairman Sharp, Mr. Kn1ght said 1 t would be
advisable to continue this item to the next Planning Commission
meet1ng and staff would request the applicant appear before the
Planning Commission to discuss these items. The satellite d1Sh
is a secondary item; not directly related to the beer/wine
license. Commissioner Fife asked if their CUP would expire in
November of 1988? Mr. Knight said it would expire but that the
important th1ng was that it came back before the Planning
Commission as a bona fide, noticed Public Hearing. That action
informally extends the CUP until the continued hearing because
this is part of a formal action.
Public Hearing Opened
There was no one to speak for or against CUP 11-87.
MOTIOR by Fife that the Public Hearing on CUP 11-87 be continued
until the next scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission and
instruct the Planning Department director to notify the applicant
of the POssibili ty that the COP could be denied on that date
unless he/she fixes the DlUDicipal ~ violations outlined in
condition 14 and produces a solution for the satellite dish
problem; SECORD by Suggs.
MOTIOR CARRIED 4 - 0
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B. CUP 12-88
303 Main street
The Main street Deli
Resolution No. 1525
Ms. Garcia presented staff's report on Conditional Use Permit
12-88 stat1ng that the applicants, Deborah and Rocky
Gentner /Bobkas, Inc. were requesting an on-sale beer and wine
license for an existing restaurant/delicatessen. The property
owner is Thomas E. Hyams. This would be a new CUP because the
current owner, Mr. Afif, indicated he has no eX1sting CUP with
the City for a beer and wine license. Mr. Af1f said he was
unaware the City routinely requires a CUP for the sale of beer
and wine but he does have an ABC license. Planning staff
recommends the Planning Commission approve CUP 12-88, with
conditions, by the adoption of Resolution No. 1525.
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Commission Comments
commissioner Jessner asked what prov1s10ns the mun1cipal code
holds for someone who does not obtain a CUP. Mr. Knight sa1d
violations of the zoning codes are misdemeanors and can be
prosecuted.
Public Hearing opened
Rocky Gentner - 840 Catalina. Seal Beach
Mr. Gentner said he plans to "upscale" the Main street Deli.
MOTION by Suqqs to approve CUP 12-88 by adoptinq Resolution No.
1525; SECOND by Fife.
MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0
5. SCHEDULED MATTERS
There were no scheduled matters.
6. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There was no oral communication from the audience.
7. STAFF CONCERNS
There were no staff concerns.
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8. COMMISSION CONCERNS
commissioner F1fe questioned staff on what is the effect when a
developer (such as Mola) leaves the Planning Commission and goes
on to the C1ty Council and presents a plan which materially
differs from the plan the Planning Commission approved? Would
this mean that the plan presented to the Council appears as
having no recommendation one way or the other from the Planning
commission? Specifically, Commissioner Fife noted the Planning
Commission had requested the removal of sixty (60) condominium
un1 ts (one entire sixty unit build1ng) and apparently Mola not
shown that recommendation in its drawing.
commissioner Fife noted he supported Commissioner Jessner's
modification to the Mola plan (deletion of one building of 60
condominiums) because 1t had the effect of removing the building
from too close a proximity to existing homes and it reduced the
condominium dens1ty by 10%. He said he felt this was not only a
building location problem but also one of picking up additional
acreage which could become part of the golf course or allow
maneuvering room to improve the Gum Grove Park area without
further sacr1fice of the golf course. Mr. F1fe stated he did not
want the City Council to think the sole concern of the Planning
Commission was simply the location/proximity of the condominium
buildings --- there is def1nite concern over density.
Mr. Knight said it is true this is not the exact same plan. He
contacted the City Attorney because the changes Mola made are
minor in nature --- they moved some buildings around, they moved
the tennis court around to try to ameliorate the Commission's
concern of the condos proximity to the existing s1ngle family
residences. The City Attorney said these changes were of a minor
nature, it was essentially the same project, and did not need to
be taken back to the Planning Commission. It is true that Mola
does not agree with the Planning Commission's recommendation and
Mola is attempting to address that through some minor changes to
the Vesting Map and sell that to the City Council. That will be
up to the C1ty Council, how it renders its decision. If dur1ng
the proceedings at Counc1l level the plan is materially changed
then it would be referred back to the planning Commission for a
further determination.
The commission wanted to know what was a "material change"? Mr.
Knight said it would be a significant sh1ft in the density of the
units (if they're compacted too much), a significant change in
the types of uses or their locations, or if there's a change in
the number of units or the type of units. Then it would come
back for Commission consideration.
Comm1ssioner Jessner asked staff if Mola had filed an appeal to
this Planning Comm1ssion decis1on. Mr. Knight said there was no
need to file and appeal because the Planning Commission is a
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recommending body to the city Council. The Planning Commission
does not have final action on this item.
9. ADJOURNMENT
Cha1rman Sharp adjourned the meeting at 7:55 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Joan Fillmann
Secretary
THESE MINUTES ARE TENTATIVE AND ARE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF
THE SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION.
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The Planning commission Minutes of November ~6, 1988 were
approved by the Planning Commiss1on on December ~1- 1988.
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