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Home My WebLink AboutPC Min 1990-05-16 . . . CITY OF SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 16, 1990 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Comm1SS1on was called to order on May 16, 1990 at 7:30 p.m. in City Council Chambers by Cha1rman Sharp. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Chairman Sharp. ROLL CALL Present: Chairman Sharp Commissioners Rullo, F1fe, McCurdy Note: commissioner Forsythe was elected to the C1ty Council and was seated May 15, 1990. Also Present: Lee Whittenberg, D1rector, Dev. Srvcs. Dept. Barry Curtis, Admin. Asst., Dev. Srvcs. Dept. CONSENT CALENDAR 1. MINOR PLAN REVIEW 4-90 A-116 SURFSIDE Staff Report Mr. curtis delivered the staff report Wh1Ch 1S a request by appl1cant, William Bruton for owners Michael and Sharon Arnstein, to remove the existing flat roof and build a sloped shed-style roof w1th usable attic space and minor structural alterations. Staff recommended approval with f1ve (5) conditions. Commission Comments Chairman Sharp asked Mr. Curtis about the exit from the third floor. Mr. Curtis replied a second means to exit the th1rd floor will be by an exterior spiral sta1rcase from the front balcony. Chairman Sharp asked Mr. curtis what assurances the Comm1ssion had that this space would be used for storage and would not be used for living quarters. Mr. Curtis said it doesn't meet UBC requ1rements for habitable space and staff felt it could proceed w1thout additional conditions because no w1ndows were provided. But the Commission could request a covenant be placed on the property that would d1ctate only one unit be on the property. Mr. Rullo noted everyth1ng in Surfside is single family and this request has no k1tchen and won't be used as a second un1t. . . . Page 2 - Plann1ng Comm1ssion Minutes of May 16, 1990 Mr. Fife asked about add1tional ventilat10n to m1nim1ze the danger of f1re. Mr. Whittenberg added the UBC prov1des for attic ventilation but if the Commission felt an additional smoke detector 1n the area was appropriate, it could be an add1t1onal cond1tion. It is not a requirement of the building or fire codes. Mr. Fife said he felt it would be a good 1dea, stating the area would be f1lled with combustibles. Addit1onally, Mr. Fife noted condit1on #1 requ1res the removal of a greenhouse window and asked what 1t would be replaced with? Mr. curtis said W1 th a convent1onal window, noting the UBC does not provide for open1ngs w1thin three feet of a property line which this window does. The height on the window is on the second floor - about 10' up. Mr. Curt1s noted that staff has a proposal to be presented to the Commission at its June 6th meeting re one-hour fire rated w1ndows being considered a perm1tted intrus10n 1nto the setback. Mr. McCurdy noted th1S 1S a flat roof with a slope on each end, versus a shed type roof. He noted they propose a 26' x 14' storage space with no apparent means of egress. He inquired as to why th1s family needed such a large storage space. Sharon Arnste1n * Owner, Al16 Surfs ide Mrs. Arnstein sa1d the house was built as a two-story house and the main floor was added later and 1S on the sand. The main floor is where they store everyth1ng and it's always wet and they want to move everything up higher. The storage area is for boxes and clothes. She thought about lining the walls with cedar for clothes storage. They had been using a bedroom for storage and now would like to clear out and use the bedroom. They plan to have a pull- down ladder from the ce1l1ng inside. The first floor is not really a first floor because it's not good for anything. She has not discussed 1nsulating the roof with anyone. Bill Bruton * B61 Surfside Mr. Bruton is the builder. The plans shows a pull-down attic staircase 1n the hallway. The plans still need to go through the BU1ld1ng Department for structural plan check and any kind of insulat1on, smoke detectors etc. w1ll be taken care of through that process. It was noted a smoke detector could be placed in the attic w1th the noise maker on another floor where 1t could be hear qU1te well. In Surfside the houses are narrow and the second floor is bas1cally a kitchen and living room with bedrooms on the third floor. The greenhouse window was there when the Arnstein's purchased the home. Mr. Fife asked Mr. Bruton how he planned to ventilate the attic? Mr. Bruton sa1d the Build1ng Department has a formula for the square footage and dead air space that reverts back into inches of ventilated area which is paSS1ve. You cannot put the spin-around type vent1lating devices in because they rust out in six months. The best th1ng to do is use a passive system with a type of treated metal. Mr. Fife sa1d he favored more active ventilat1ng systems. r . . . Page 3 - Planning Commiss1on Minutes of May 16, 1990 Mr. McCurdy noted the plans show four 24 x 24 vents in the attic space. Mr. Bruton said yes, th1S is the passive system but said he would not use that type of ventilation because it rusts out. Mr. Rullo noted everyone 1S going to copper as 1t doesn't rust. Mr. Sharp said he was sure the ventilation would be taken care of through the BU1lding Department. MOTION by Rullo; SECOND by McCUrdy to approve Plan Review 4-90, subject to requiring an additional smoke detector in the attic area. MOTION CARRIED: 4 - 0 AYES: Rullo, Fife, McCUrdy, Sharp SCHEDULED MATTERS There were no scheduled matters. PUBLIC HEARINGS There were no Publ1C Hearings. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS There were no oral communications. STAFF CONCERNS Mr. Curt1s presented a staff report entitled "Additions to Non- conforming Structures Which Are Non-Conforming Solely Due to Densi ty and Tandem Park1ng". This report was generated by two recent requests to add to legal non-conforming duplexes in an amount greater than the 10% allowed under a Minor Plan Review. Staff recommended the Commission direct staff to 1nitiate a Zoning Text Amendment to allow for addi t10ns of greater than 10% to residential structures which are non-conforming solely due to tandem parking and dens1ty. Staff recommended that Section 28- 2407(A)(3) be amended to require a Conditional Use Permit for all such additions. The Comm1ssion asked how the add1tions would policed the make sure they were not bedrooms? Mr. Curtis said a CUP process was proposed and they would corne before the Planning Commiss1on. As with a Minor Plan Review, rooms could be changed around as long as there 1S no net increase in the number of bedrooms. Mr. McCurdy said he objected to tandem parking because it usually resulted in one car in the tandem and two cars parked on the street because of the necess1ty of moving the cars to get them out. MOTION by Rullo; SECOND by Fife for the Planning commission to direct staff to proceed initiating a Zoning Text Amendment to allow for additions of greater than 10% to residential structures which are non-conforming solely due to tandem parking and density. MOTION CARRIED: 4 - 0 AYES: Rullo, Fife, McCurdy, Sharp " . . . -. Page 4 - Planning Commission Minutes of May 16, 1990 COMMISSION CONCERNS Appolnt New Commlssioners Mr. Sharp said two Plannlng Commlssloners, Gwen Forsythe and Joe Rullo, were leaving the Commission. Ms. Forsythe being elected to the Clty Councl1 and Joe Rullo resigning effective May 16, 1990. He urged the new City Council Members Forsythe and Hastlngs to speedily appoint two new members to the Commission. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Sharp adjourned the meeting at 8:00 p.m. Respectfully Submltted, ~~~~ Executive Secretary Department of Development Services These Minutes are tentatlve and are subject to the approval of the Planning Commlssion. *** The Minutes of the May 16, 1990 Planning Commission meetlng were approved on C\~ 01.0 1990. ~