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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
JUNE 5, 1991
I.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II.
ROLL CALL
III.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Approval of May 15, 1991 Minutes
IV. SCHEDULED MATTERS
2. Staff Report re Historic Buildings
3. Proposed Development Guidelines:
Seal Beach Boulevard (Between Electric Avenue
and Pacific Coast Highway)
V.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - At this time members of the public
may address the Planning commission regarding any item
within the subject matters of the Commission provided no
action may be taken on off-Agenda items unless authorized
by law.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. Conditional Use Permit #8-89
Address: 12147 Seal Beach Boulevard
Applicant: Corwin Bales
Re: ABC License/Indefinite Approval/Baja Bills
Resolution No. 1627
5. Conditional Use Permit #8-91
Address: 16281 Pacific Coast Highway
Applicant: Salvatore Camelia
Re: ABC License TransferjNoel's Restaurant
Resolution No. 1628
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6. Conditional Use Permit #6-91
Address: 303 - 305 Main street
Applicant: Tom Charara
Re: ABC License Transfer
Main street Deli
Resolution No. 1629
7. Variance #5-91
Address: 229 Seal Beach Boulevard
Applicant: Walt Miller
Re: Provide Less Than Required Parking
Resolution No. 1630
8. a) General Plan Amendments #1A-91 & 1B-91
b) Zone Change #1-91
c) Variance #4-91
Address: 1600 Pacific Coast Hwy & 336 17th st.
Applicant: Jim Watson
Resolution Nos.: 1632, 1633, 1634 & 1635
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Appeal of Director of Development Services
Determination Re Municipal Code Violation.
Address: 223 Seal Beach Boulevard
Applicant: Peter Fielding
Resolution No. 1636
VII. STAFF CONCERNS
*. July 3rd Meeting Schedule
IX. COMMISSION CONCERNS
X. ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JUNE 5, 1991
The regularly scheduled Plann1ng Commission meet1ng of June 5, 1991
was called to order at 7: 30 p.m. in City Council Chambers by
Chairman Fife.
PLEDGE OF AT.T.EGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sharp.
ROLL Cl<T.T.
Present:
Chairman Fife
Commissioners Dahlman, Sharp, Orsin1, McCurdy
Present:
Department of Development SerV1ces staff:
Lee Whittenberg, Director
Barry Curtis, Administrative Assistant
Michael Cho, Intern
Joan Fillmann, Executive Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
1.
APPROVAL OF MAY 15, 1991 MINUTES
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Orsini to approve the Planning
Commission Minutes of May 15, 1991 as presented.
MOTION CARRIED: 5 - 0
AYES: Fife, Dahlman, Sharp, McCurdy, Orsini
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2. Staff Report on Historic Buildings
Staff Report
Director Wh1ttenberg presented the staff report which listed
twenty-one buildings thought to qualify as recognized historic
structures within the City of Seal Beach. [Staff report on file in
the Planning Department]. Seventeen of the structures were l1sted
in the "H1storic Walk1ng Tour of Seal Beach" prepared by the
Women's Club of Seal Beach and four structures were identified by
staff. The staff report indicated this list can be amended, the
City doesn't have a listing of recognized historic structures at
this time, the munic1pal ~ sets findings the Commission would
have to make 1n approving a Historical Conditional Use Permit.
This Historical Conditional Use Permit process includes notice to
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adjo1ning property owners within 300 feet. A property owner who
felt his home should be on this list should contact the Department
of Development Services and staff would evaluate that structure.
Any staff recommendation would come before the Plann1ng Commission
and City Council. Staff has not processed a CUP under Section
28-2403.1, most likely because there 1S no list of recognized
structures.
staff proposed the Plann1ng Commission review and consider this
11St. If it accurately reflects the extent of the City's historic
structures at this t1me then the list should be forwarded to the
City Council for their review and consideration. Hopefully the
11St would be adopted as the off1cial policy listing of historic
structures in Seal Beach which would then qualify those buildings
under the munic1pal Code provisions for the Historical Conditional
Use Permit process at the time any mOdifications/alterations are
proposed for those structures.
commissioner orsini asked staff how the proposed remodeling of the
Green Pepper Restaurant on Main street would affect it's historic
nature. Mr. Whittenberg sa1d the new owner is propos1ng to leave
the structure's exterior walls and upgrade to meet seism1c
standards. Additionally they are proposing mod1fications to the
front of the bU1lding but the general overall design of the
structure will basically be the same. This will come before the
Planning Commiss1on as part of the CUP process because of a change
1n their liquor license among other things.
Chairman Fife noted th1S would not make 1t more difficult for the
owner of a historical structure to demol1sh and rebuild a new
structure but it would encourage him to preserve it by granting him
deviations from the mun1cipal ~.
MOTION by McCUrdy; SECOND by Sharp to adopt this listing of
historical structures and forward it to the city Council for review
and consideration.
MOTION CARRIED: 5 - 0
AYES: Fife, Sharp, Dahlman, McCUrdy, Orsini
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3. Proposed Development Guidelines: Seal Beach Boulevard
[Between Electric Avenue and Pacific Coast Highway]
staff Report
D1rector Whittenberg delivered the staff report. [Staff report on
file in the Planning Department]. Mr. Whittenberg ind1cated the
issue of plann1ng for Seal Beach Blvd. has come back before the
Planning Commission based on prior direction from both the Planning
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Commission and City Councll. The staff report is presented to the
Commlssion as a discussion-generatlng document to see if Planning
Department staff and the Planning Commission are headed in an
agreeable, appropriate direction. It was deemed desirable to re-
institute hearings to achieve new development standards for Seal
Beach Boulevard, allowlng mixed-use development which is currently
not allowed under the zoning and General Plan. On June 10th, the
City council will consider a report on re-striping for diagonal
parking in that same area. Staff has digested the previous
reports and mlnutes on Seal Beach Boulevard done in 1985 - 1986 and
incorporated that information into this discussion. Staff is
encouraging a mix of retail/office/service commercial/institutional
uses on the ground floor with a residential use above on the second
and possibly third floors. The staff report discusses major areas
of concern such as architectural compatibility, parking control,
sidewalk and street furniture lmprovements, sign control, types of
uses permitted by right or through the Conditlonal Use Permit
process and land use restrictions on all uses. Off-street parking
requirements reflect 1985 Task Force wishes via the allowance of
tandem parking, the potential off-set for some required parking
which may be provided by on-street parking via dlagonal re-striping
program. Staff has not proposed a speclfic percentage of spaces to
be counted against the requlred parklng as that should be
determined through the Public Hearing process. On lot development
standards (setbacks, heights etc.) staff indicated they would
propose using the existlng ~ requirements for setbacks but felt
additional provisions should be added to the ~, such as (1) new
residential uses could only be developed on the second floor above
and not be on the ground floor; (2) any new residentlal uses must
have a minimum useable open space area of 80 square feet as part of
the unit (not including any stairways) for the use of that
occupant; ( 3 ) certain height requirements and stepback design
criteria for structures close to the alley to allow light and
ventilation for the residential units on the West slde of the
alley; (4) maximum floor area ratios for resldential and commercial
development limlting lot coverage of the property, providing for
useable open space to not have buildings being built right up to
the property line; (5) tandem parklng allowance and off-set for on-
street parking. Staff said they would appreciate Commission
direction --- has staff hit the major areas of concern or is there
something that should be covered? Staff's intent is to formalize
a document the Planning Commission feels comfortable with and then
request a joint study session with the City Council prior to
scheduling formal PubllC Hearings to consider General Plan
amendments and amendments to the text of the zoning ordlnance to
place the new standards into effect.
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commission Comments
Slow Traffic on Seal Beach Boulevard
Commissioner McCurdy asked staff for the comparable width of Main
Street and Seal Beach Boulevard. Mr. Whittenberg said the
Engineering Department informed him the curb-to-curb measurements
are the same except where Seal Beach Boulevard widens from Landing
to Pacific Coast Highway. Commissioner McCurdy stated the trafflC
on Main Street travels at 10 to 15 MPH and on Seal Beach Blvd.
traffic travels at 40 to 50 MPH. Something must be done to slow
the trafflC on Seal Beach Boulevard or backing out of angled
parking would be too dangerous. Mr. Whittenberg said staff is
suggesting a "stop" sign be placed at Landing Avenue and Seal Beach
Blvd. to stop traffic at that point. This would slow traffic as
cars go through the area of diagonal parking. The Council will
determlne if angled parking should be on both sldes of the street
or just on the West side of the street adjacent to the commercial
areas. Commissioner McCurdy stated angled parking should be along
both sides of the street.
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Cost Comparisons
Commlssioner Sharp indicated the prlor studies proposed an
expensive project and asked staff what costs would be incurred at
this time? Mr. Whittenberg said the costs at this time would be
minimal, involving sandblasting the existing striping and
restriping the street's center stripe to make way for the angled
parking; the City has personnel to do the re-striping. However,
sandblasting equipment will have to be rented. The prior proposals
included extensive sidewalk improvements and landscaping but the
funding is not available for those improvements at this time.
Front Yard Setback
Commissioner Orsini asked for the origlnatlon pOlnt of the 10 foot
front yard setback. Mr. Whittenberg said it would be from the
property line. The property 11ne is to the rear of the sldewalk,
not at the curb.
Architectural Review
Commissioner orsini asked what architectural reVlew the Plannlng
Commission could have? Mr. Whittenberg said the staff report does
not discuss this lssue but the Commission and Council should give
staff direction if they desire a requirement mandating the
Commission or a separate body have archltectural review. Chalrman
Fife agreed with commissioner Orsini, saying it would be a good
ldea to oversee things untl1 it was certain the project was moving
in the correct direction.
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Remodel
Commissioner Orsini, referencing the requlrement for no new
residential units on the ground floor, asked what happens if an
owner has unlts in place now and wants to remodel? Mr. Whittenberg
said they could remodel existing residential but they could not
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increase the number of ground floor residential units. They could
not tear down and replace with residential on the ground floor.
Owner Occupied
Chairman Fife encouraged the occupancy of the residential portion
of a mixed-use structure by persons who were connected to the
business portion of that same structure. This would cut down
commuting and possible conflicts between persons occupying
tangential spaces Wl thout empathy for one another. He felt
something should be built into the Ordinance maklng this a
" . .. preferred first choice". Mr. Whittenberg said staff has
proposed that the permitted residential uses can be only in
conjunction with a non-resldential use and can be located only on
the second floor or above. If someone proposed a residential use
not in conjunction with the non-residential use that would require
a Conditional Use Permit with a Public Hearing before the
Commlssion.
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Parking at Old Pacific ROW
Indicating the Navy owns the land between the alley and Seal Beach
Blvd., Chairman Fife asked staff if they had explored the
possibility of the City negotiating an easement from the Navy to
pave that into a parklng lot which would be entered from Seal Beach
Blvd. a one-way angled parking lot? contributors to a
permanent maintenance fund could be glven the right to off-set and
use those spaces in developing their commercial structures. Mr.
Whittenberg said he would be glad to further explore that issue.
The Navy has indicated they have no desire to release the property
but no lease arrangement has been explored. The ROW is 100 feet
wide.
Public Comments
The Commission decided to take public comments on this Scheduled
Matter.
Walt Miller * 231 & 229 Seal Beach Blvd. - Suggested limiting the
project to a specific area on Seal Beach Blvd. to achieve a
historical feeling. He liked a vlllage concept and supported
architectural control by the Planning Commission. Indicating the
area has had no attention for 50 years he felt building guided only
by setbacks and codes would lose the architectural feeling. He was
concerned about the 10 foot setback and 20% of the lot being
absorbed by setbacks. He felt attractive frontages could be
achieved with less than a 10 foot setback and asked the Commission
to consider reducing the 10 foot flgure. Mr. Miller had
reservations about staff's recommendatlons on rear yard setbacks
and staff will analyze both Mr. Miller's recommendation and staff's
recommendation in 1 ts next report. He also reminded the Commission
that the property owners are anxious for a start and completion
time frame, expressing that this topic has been on hold for several
years.
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Charles Antos * 328 17th street - Commented that having diagonal
parking will reduce the carrying capacity of Seal Beach Boulevard
which is on the Master Plan of Arterial Highways. By reduc1ng the
carrying capacity the City will cut itself off from all funds that
are based upon this Master Plan --- funds from the County, the
State, the Federal Government. Additionally, diagonal parking is
a prima facie hazard and the City Attorney should comment on who is
11able. Regarding the comment that these proposed standards will
help renovate this area, Mr. Antos said they are a step back to the
1950's because (1) commercial construction is 11mited to two
stories throughout the City except here; (2) residential parking is
two spaces per dwelling unit and these standards allow one parking
space per dwelling unit; (3) these standards propose to give
credit for angled parking and that tells everyone else who wishes
to develop they have to provide the requisite number of on-site
parking spaces. But in this project you can park in the street for
your commercial and the residential requirement is only one space.
Comm1ss1oner Orsini asked what type of highway funds have been
received from the Arterial Highway financing program? Mr. Antos
sa1d the funds are received yearly and estimated they are from
$50,000 to $200,000 per year and their distribution depends on how
the funds are allocated. The City Engineer makes application for
the City. Previous funds have been used on any street that 1S
shown on the Master Plan for Arterial Highways --- Bolsa, Pac1fic
Coast Highway, Lampson, Seal Beach Blvd. etc.
Chairman Fife asked if this same issue was discussed during the
Mola proposal when proposing Bolsa Avenue as an arterial trans
County highway? Mr. Antos adv1sed that Bolsa Avenue is an arterial
highway on the Orange County plan of arterial highways and on the
City's master plan of arterial highways. Mr. Antos said the road
at issue during the Mola proposal was the extension of Edinger
Avenue from Sunset Aquatic Park across the Seal Beach National
Wildlife Refuge up to Pacific Coast H1ghway because that's the only
stretch of road the City doesn't plan to extend and it's still
shown as a possible future road on the County Master Plan of
Arterial Highways. A study may be done jointly by the City and the
County to determine whether that stretch of road ought to be
extended.
Ch1 Kredel * 1633 Seal Way - Stated that all facts on th1S 1ssue
should be presented to the Planning Commission prior to a report
be1ng sent to the Council. Commissioner Dahlman indicated the
Commission knows th1S is a rough draft and that we're a long way
from f1nal plans. Mr. Kredel felt the standards as presented are
carte blanche for whoever wants to bU1ld there and felt the parking
should adhere to the present City codes. Mr. Kredel stated
major1ty of City residents don't like in-I1eu parking and this is
another form of not putting the proper amount of parking on the
lot. This perpetuates the existing parking problems. He felt
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commercial and residential should be treated equally. He urged the
Commisslon to request the City Council budget for a municlpal ~
enforcement officer.
Frank Prior * 233 Seal Beach Blvd. - Stated the proposed standards
would upgrade Seal Beach Boulevard, would not increase density and
he supported Commission design review authorl ty. He liked the
proposals for Rum Runner's Restaurant and said the Saturday meeting
had no comments in opposition.
Chairman Fife asked Mr. Whl ttenberg if the proposed standards
contained a prohibition of commercial uses on a third story? Mr.
Whl ttenberg said no. Mr. Flfe sald that they should consider
having the ground floor commercial, the third story residential and
the middle/2nd story either way.
Seretta Fielding * 223 Seal Beach Blvd. - Stated she was glad to
see the proposed standards --- that it has taken six years to get
to this point. She noted Seal Beach Boulevard is two lanes, not
four lanes for traffic planning.
Helen Wllson - 17th Street - Said she would llke to see Seal Beach
Boulevard improved because it's an eyesore but didn' t see how
allowlng three stories would improve it.
Bruce Stark * Seal Beach (No Address Given) - Stated it has been
six years ln trying to get something accomplished for Seal Beach
Blvd. He stated improvement is long overdue and the impediment is
what the City will allow the owners to do with their property. He
felt dlagonal parking would be an asset, off-street parking is
available ln two locatlons, two or three stories would be
beneficial, he has had no parklng problem wlth his property on Seal
Beach Blvd.. He advocated advanced plannlng versus reacting to
what comes along.
Chairman Fife closed the publlC input section, no one wlshing to
speak further. He said this matter would be entrusted to staff to
absorb the data from tonight's meeting and come back wlth a further
report.
Director Whlttenberg sald he would hope to have a report to the
Commission at their June 19th meetlng detailing whatever action(s)
the City Council took on the re-striping program at the June 10th
meeting and whatever modifications would be appropriate from
tonight's discusslons. At that point, Planning staff and the
Commission would probably be in a position to request a jOlnt study
session with the City Council.
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~ Chairman Fife called a recess from 8:50 p.m. to 9:03 p.m.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Fife indicated that there would be a departure from the
usual Commission format due to the anticipated length of this
meeting's Agenda and there would be two Oral Communications
sections. He asked each speaker to llmlt hlmself to five minutes.
Galen Ambrose * Seal Beach - Mr. Ambrose requested the Plannlng
Commission agendize a zone change for the Hellman Ranch to
accommodate wetlands restoration. He stated his request was based
on the results of the June 4th City election which he felt sent a
signal that City residents don't want a hotel, a K-Mart or a golf
course. He said the public is not interested in development on an
unsafe plece of land such as the Hellman Ranch. He sald the
toxici ty of that land has not been researched. He stated there are
"Mitlgation funds available from all sources to do the wetlands
restoration so that should not be a concern. The zoning right now
is a concern".
Addltlonally, Mr. Ambrose asked Mr. Curtis about McGaugh School
accommodating a private church on Sundays. He expressed concern
that area residents cannot park on their streets. Mr. curtis said
staff has contacted the School District. A church use was never
permi tted by the City nor was it required at that time to be
permitted by the City --- it's done on a year-to-year basis with
the School District. Staff will try to have its report to the
Commission for the July 17th meeting. Staff would like the School
Distrlct to corne before the Planning Commission so the Commission
could reVlew the use and approve/deny/conditionally approve the
use. Staff is proposing the church utillze the Rockwell parking
lot and run shuttle buses to McGaugh School. Also to require the
church to place appropriate signage agreeable to the Planning
Commlssion and Engineering Department not allowing parking in
residential areas adJacent to the school on Sundays for church
sales.
Joyce Roz Parkay * Sunset Beach rNo Address Givenl - She discussed
her concerns regarding alterations to non-conforming buildings,
stating she believed the .QQQ& should remain as 1 t is. Mr.
Whittenberg said staff has not set a formal date for the Public
Hearings. Staff is digesting the information received from the
previous study sessions. He anticipated corning back to the
Planning Commission with two or three different proposals to
address the different issues and concerns which will probably be
early August.
Jack Wilson * 252 17th Street - Said diagonal parking along Seal
Beach Boulevard would be dangerous due to the high speed of
trafflC.
No one wlshing to speak further, Chalrman Fife closed Oral
Communications.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. Conditional Use Permit #8-89
12147 Seal Beach Boulevard
Baja Bills Restaurant
Resolution No. 1627
It was noted the applicant, Corwin Bales, had informed staff he
would be unable to attend this meeting. Commissioner Dahlman
indlcated he would favor postponing this item rather than
dlscussing it in part. Chairman Fife opened the Public Hearing to
continue thlS item to a date certain and avoid re-Noticing thlS
item in the newspaper.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Dahlman to postpone consideration of
Conditional Use Permit #8-89 to the June 19, 1991 Planning
commission meeting.
MOTION CARRIED: 5 - 0
AYES: Fife, Sharp, Dahlman, McCurdy, Orsini
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Conditional Use Permit t7-91
16281 Pacific Coast Highway
Noel's Restaurant
staff Report
Mr. Curtis delivered the staff report. [Staff report on file in
the Planning Department]. The applicant, Salvatore Camelia, is
becomlng the new major shareholder of the company that owns Noel's
Restaurant which necessitates a new Conditional Use Permit. The
property requires 38 parking spaces but provides 30 spaces. The
duration of use on the site and residential unit above the
restaurant, the City considers the restaurant to have
"grandfathered" parking. Staff recommended approval by adoption of
Resolution No. 1628 with 13 conditions of approval. Staff
recommended the Commission place a condi tlon in this approval
requiring the applicant to meet any requirements set forth by
CALTRANS.
Chairman Fife opened the Public Hearing. The applicant was not
present. No one in the audience wished to speak ln favor of thlS
applicatlon.
George Armstrong * Water Tower * Seal Beach - Sald he lives in the
Water Tower and has seen several automobile accidents at the
intersection of Pacific Coast Highway and Anderson Street. There
is no delineatlon between Noel's Restaurant and his property and he
suggested the Planning Commission insist on placing curbs and
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gutters to dellneate that area are not depend on CALTRANS to insist
upon It. Curbs and gutters mlght require parallel parklng along
Pacific Coast Highway and might cut out a couple of parking spaces.
Mr. Curtis recommended the following conditlon be included in the
approval:
13. Subject to the approval of CALTRANS, the applicant shall
install curbs and gutters along Paciflc Coast Highway.
CALTRANS could veto this condition if they didn't want the curbs
and gutters because it is their street.
Mr. Whittenberg said curbs and gutters would not materially effect
the number of required parklng spaces but may require re-striping.
Compact space re-striping could assist. Commissioner Sharp asked
lf the requlred curbs and gutters resulted in the loss of a parking
space could the Commission waive that parklng? Chairman Fife
suggested Condition 13 read:
13. SubJect to the approval of CALTRANS, curbs and gutters
shall be installed and the parking lot re-striped as
required.
Chalrman Fife asked staff if it would be desirable to condltion the
applicant have a net total of 30 spaces as he currently has? Mr.
Whittenberg sald technically it would be difficult for the
Commission to wal ve the required parking because it would be
granting a further variance from a non-conforming situatlon that
has not been advertised for.
No one wishing to speak further Chalrman Fife closed the Public
Hearing. The Public Hearing was reopened briefly to allow the
maker of the Motlon to reschedule to a date certain.
MOTION by Sharp: SECOND by Orsini to continue Conditional Use
Permit #8-91 to the Planning Commission meeting of June 19, 1991
and ask the applicant be present and staff provide a parking
layout. This will be a Public Hearing.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5 - 0
Sharp, Orsini, Fife, Dahlman, McCUrdy
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6. Conditional Use Permit #7-91
303 - 305 Main street
Main street Deli
Resolution No. 1629
staff Report
Mr. curtis delivered the staff report. [Staff report on file in
the Planning Department]. This is a request by applicants Torn and
Annie Charara to transfer an eXlsting on-sale beer and wine license
in conjunction with the transfer of ownership of the Main street
Deli. Staff recommended approval via the adoption of Resolution
No. 1629 with ten conditions of approval.
Commlssion Comments
Chairman Flfe asked if the outdoor dining area could be eXlted
wlthout going through the main restaurant? Mr. Curtis said no.
There is a short fence with flowers on top and of a height unlikely
to be easily scaled.
Public Hearlng
Torn Charara * Owner. Main street Deli - Said his beer is both
bottled and on tap. He didn't feel a patron would walk off the
patio dining area because the fence was too high. He asked that
Condition #9 be changed to reflect the hours of operation start at
6:00 a.m., not 8:00 a.m. because he plans to have breakfasts.
Mr. Curtis advised the ABC restricts a liquor license when to serve
alcohol. The Clty has no such requirement. Commissioner orsini
said the allowance is from 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. Mr. Charara said
ABC restrlcted hlS license from 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
No one wishing to speak further for or against this application the
PubllC Hearing was closed.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Orsini to approve Conditional Use Permit
#7-91 via the approval of Resolution No. 1629 and with the change
to Condition #9 to read:
9. Wi th the applicant's consent, the hours of operation
shall be from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. daily.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5 - 0
Fife, Sharp, Orsini, Dahlman, McCUrdy
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7. (a) General Plan Amendments #1A-91 & #1B-91
(b) Zone Change #1-91
(c) Variance #4-91
1600 Pacific Coast Highway & 336 17th street
Resolution Nos. 1632, 1633, 1634 and 1635
staff Report
Mr. curtis delivered the staff report. [staff report on f1le in
the Planning Department]. The applicant, Jim Watson, is requesting
to change the zoning and General Plan designation of nine (9) lots
from C-2 to RMD zoning. He is also requesting a variance from
section 28-1402 of the C1ty'S mun1c1pal Code as it pertains to
loading zones. The applicant 1S proposing a dual use loading
zone/parking area. A Negative Declaration was prepared. Staff
recommended approval subJect to Cond1tions of approval. The
California Coastal Commiss1on [Karen Madison, Analyst] expressed
concerns over the compatibility of this request with the Coastal
Act. Ms. Madison had concerns over the viability of the three
commercial lots due to their 25 foot widths. She stated that
possible incompatibility with the Coastal Act, even with City
approval, may have difficulty receiving Coastal Commission
approval. She felt a "wait and see" approach was best at this time
to gauge Coastal Commission response.
Four alternatives were provided for the site:
Restaurant of 6500 square feet requiring 20 parking
spaces and two single fam1ly residences.
Fast food restaurant of 3515 square feet plus two single
family residences.
Strip shopp1ng center of 8100 square feet plus two s1ngle
family residences.
Three separate detached commercial buildings of 3000
square feet with eleven (11) single family residences.
The fourth alternative 1S the preferred alternative based on the
perceived fiscal, traffic and water impacts and its compatibility
with the surrounding neighborhood. All alternat1ves were analyzed
and discussed at length. Staff expressed concern over the impact
of 11 new homes on the City's park and recreat10n facilities and
therefore proposed another Condition of approval:
11. The appl1cant be required to pay Park and Recreation fees
of $10,000 per lot for the nine (9) new lots (not for the
two [2] lots currently zoned res1dential) for a total sum
of $90,000.
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Staff addressed its several concerns (all outlined in the staff
report). Additionally it asked that a sub-paragraph (f) be added
to the last concern:
f. A fire hydrant be placed on the southeasterly corner of
17th Street and Pacific Coast Highway, directly adjacent
to the dr1veway approach to that commercial build1ng to
service the resident1al units down 17th Street.
Staff recommended approval via the adopt1on of Resolution Nos.
1632, 1633, 1634 and 1635.
Comm1ssion Comments
Fee Payment
Commissioner orsini asked when the $90,000 be paid? Mr. Curt1s
said the Commission could set the date in the Conditions of
Approval and generally 1t'S paid prior to building permit issuance.
ProJect Impact Fees
Commissioner Dahlman asked pr10r to chang1ng the amount of the park
dedication fees what would nine units cost? Mr. Curtis said it
would be $75,000 times nine or $675,000 but this is not a
subdivision and does not fall under Quimby Act fee requirements.
Staff has proposed the $90,000 for this specific proposal and it is
not a legally mandated fee. Staff feels the fee should be paid
because of the projects' impact on the City's parks and recreat10n
facilities. Staff will be presenting a proposal for obtaining
addi tional park funds to the City Council. Mr. Whittenberg
clarified by saying the properties in question are currently
subd1v1ded into 25' lots and they've been combined by common
ownership but the orig1nal parcels still exist as 25' lots. A
subdivision is therefore not necessary to allow for building on
these properties. Staff is proposing a $10,000 fee per parcel be
1mposed on the nine new residentially zoned eX1sting parcels as a
mitigation measure for the increased number (9 units) of
residential un1ts due to the zone change on the City's park and
recreation facilities.
Public Hearing
Jim Watson * 350 Ocean (Residence) * 101 Main st. (Business)
Mr. Watson discussed his application in detail, presenting several
v1sual display charts. He stated that when he tied this property
up in a contingent escrow he considered five alternatives, settling
on four viable plans. He stated he considered leaving the existing
(Rum Runners) restaurant, remodeling it extensively. They assumed
that a dinner restaurant would be by far the most profitable to the
C1ty. But when analyzed, he was surprised it didn't come out that
way. The revenue was far higher on the fourth al ternati ve than any
of the others. The present owner's, the Douvalis', said their
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highest volume was $125,000 one month, which would have been under
$1.5 m1llion a year --- a few years ago. When that plan was
reviewed, it quickly became evident that there are no proper side
or front yard setbacks, the parking is very inadequate due to
inadequate aisle size --- even having 60 spaces. The bU1lding's
inter10r has been significantly damaged and is not up to building
codes. They did not feel a hotel was an alternative. The four
remaining alternative plans cover the primary ways this site should
be developed.
The first alternative was a dinner restaurant.
They figured $2,000,000 in annual sales. The eX1sting
Rum Runner's Restaurant 1S 7900 square feet with 60 non-
conforming spaces; it needs 79 spaces. He considered
a 6500 square foot restaurant with a bar. This was the
practical minimum. The restaurant would be placed 1n the
center with parking on both sides. 45 parking spaces
would meet Code requirements but 65 spaces would be
requ1red. That would have mean a Variance for 20 spaces
or drop the restaurant to 4500 square feet and meet
parking.
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The second alternative was a fast food restaurant. He
said several fast foods would like to locate in Seal
Beach. He reviewed Carl's Jr. for a layout. It was 3500
square feet with 35 parking spaces and a drive through
facility. This would include two single fam1ly homes.
The third alternative was a strip commercial center. It
involved 8100 square feet and met parking requirements.
Economically it was not a viable alternative. He felt
this was not a good location for a typical unanchored
str1p center. This would include two single fam1ly
homes.
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The fourth al ternati ve was three commercial buildings
along Pacific Coast Highway and 11 single fam1ly homes.
This would involve rezoning nine of the lots to
residential. This 1nvolves a zone change and a Variance
for the load1ng area. No food establishments will be in
the commercial buildings because they couldn't meet the
parking requirements. The primary factors mak1ng this
fourth alternative more attractive were (1) high value
per square foot of the residential. These houses will be
marketed at about $550,000; (2) the veh1cle trips are
signif1cantly less. The cost saving to the City on
reduced vehicle trips ranged from $5000 to $20,000
between the different alternatives; and (3) the 1mpact
fees are quite h1gh under the residential --- a $90,000
park fee that doesn't apply to the other
alternatives.
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Mr. Watson had sent a packet showing the four alternatives to all
homeowners between Pacific Coast Highway and Electric Avenue on
15th, 16th and 17th streets. This was also sent to 25 to 30
community activists thought to be interested, plus the Plann1ng
Commission and City Council members. Mr. Watson 1nvited everyone
to corne to a presentation on Saturday, June 1st. About 60 people
attended. After that presentation the input from the attendees
made it clear to Mr. Watson that they were interested in the fourth
alternative. They did not want an 1ntense commercial development
at this corner. Mr. Watson changed the fourth alternative in all
aspects recommended --- the patios were flipped to the north, the
commercial easement w111 have a restriction placed on it to
prohibit an opening to the yard area, addit10nal landscap1ng at the
corners of 16th and 17th Streets, and a large old tree will be
saved.
Mr. Watson discussed Tables 1-9:
1. Estimates secured value, taxable sales transactions,
employees, residents and commercial floor area by
alternative development concept.
2. Comparison of restaurant floor areas and parking.
3.
Estimated water consumption.
4.
Estimated average
generation.
weekday
vehicle
trip/traffic
5. Est1mated City of Seal Beach annual fiscal revenues by
alternative development concert.
6. Estimated exaction revenues (non-recurring development
fees) by alternative development concept.
7. Estimated City of Seal Beach annual fiscal recurr1ng
costs.
8. Summary of estimated revenue and costs by alternative
development concept.
9. Estimated annual property tax revenue to all governmental
agencies.
commission Comments
commissioner Sharp asked if there is base landscap1ng along the
eight foot wall? Mr. Watson said he would landscape on both sides
of th1s wall, using a creeping fig plus mature trees.
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trafflC impacts. Continuing the discussion, the Commission
wondered if because of adding to the number of residentlal lots in
town (under the General Plan) that the developer might have a low
lncome housing requirement. The Commlssion noted the developer
should not look to the Commission if it turns out that he should be
required to have low income housing. He also felt the soils and
seismic situation must be considered for this project so it's built
on solid ground. Mr. Whittenberg sald this would be dealt with as
a part of the normal plan check process where soils reports are
required for all building sites.
The following persons spoke in favor of Jim Watson's application:
Cra19 Gibson * 305 17th street, Seal Beach - Sald he has lived in
Seal Beach 10 years and preferred alternative #4. He said the Rum
Runners Restaurant has had constant problems on week-ends. The
parking lot would fill up and the overflow for that restaurant
would wind up on surrounding streets. He felt the commercial
building parking should be accessible from 16th and 17th Streets.
He stated Jim Watson built his home and pralsed the several
projects Mr. Watson has built throughout the city.
Walt Thurner * 326 17th Street. Seal Beach - Said he has lived in
Seal Beach over 20 years and he purchased his home from Jim Watson
and has lived there 11 years. He liked proposed alternatlve #4 and
will increase nelghboring property values. He felt Rum Runners
went from a fine establishment to an eyesore and asked the
Commission not to place roadblocks in the path of this project. He
stated Paciflc Coast Highway noise is contlnual and thls project
will buffer his home and will help reduce noise. He said the
police sirens and ambulances are particularly bothersome.
Commissioner Orsini said there is a cleaning company working out of
a home on 17th Street who parks about six vehlcles on the street.
Mr. Whittenberg said this is an on-going ~ enforcement problem.
Helen Wilson * 252 17th Street. Seal Beach - She said she likes
alternative #4 as it will improve property values and enhance the
area life styles. She stated the empty Rum Runners allows people
to dump at that site.
Galen Ambrose * Seal Beach [No Address Given] - Said he was not
speaking for or against Mr. Watson's project but asked what would
be the best project for the City? He sald he was looking at what
was best for the City regardlng increased sales tax monies, traffic
flow and noise mitigation.
Frank Pryor * 233 Seal Beach Blvd.. Seal Beach - Sald he has three
lots close to Mr. Watson's project. He favored alternative #4.
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Don Steigen * 301 16th street. Seal Beach - Said he thought Mr.
Watson's project is wonderful and urged the Commission to let it
get going. His residence is across the street from Rum Runners.
Dinah Fahill * 328 17th Street. Seal Beach - Said she lives ln the
house closest to the Rum Runner's parking lot. She said she was
very thankful Mr. Watson was proposing something nice for that
slte.
Larry Applegate * 16th Street [No Address Given] - Sald he has
lived on 16th Street about 20 years. He liked alternative #4 and
prefers to see the residential portion of the project maxed out.
The commercial will suit the neighborhood and the city.
Bill Bennett - 311 Ocean Avenue. Seal Beach - Sald he has been a
City resident for 20 years and has watched Mr. Watson's projects.
He felt that he and many other persons could attest to what the
City has gained from Mr. Watson and his projects. He stated the
great majorlty of City residents do not want a great deal of growth
or commercial development; they want a sleepy resldential
communlty. He stated that everyone he has talked to likes the
resldentlal development.
Dlrector Whittenberg read lnto the Record three letters in favor of
Jlm Watson's project from:
Bob & Christy Shahnazarian - 236 14th Street
Peter & Seretta Fielding - 223~ Seal Beach Blvd.
Dennis & Kathy Courtemarche - 315 16th Street
The following person spoke in opposition to Mr. Watson's proposal:
Charles Antos * 328 17th Street. Seal Beach - Said he thought the
proposal was very nice, a beautiful proposal. However, the
Negative Declaration on answers to questions on "Noise" state
"Maybe" on (a) increases in existing noise levels and (b) exposure
of people to severe noise levels. Both answers of "Maybe" deal
with the construction phase of the proposed project. Mr. Antos
said that ln 1975 the Clty adopted a Noise Element to its General
Plan and all along Pacific Coast Highway noise readings were taken:
May 18, 1975: PCH at 14th & 15th Streets
3:00 p.m. - 71 LON (decibels)
May 9, 1975: PCH & Seal Beach Blvd.
4:00 p.m. - 74 decibels
The map prepared for this Element shows at least half these lots at
above 65 decibels. Noise levels above 70 decibels are the
beginnlng of serious hearing loss. This has not been addressed.
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If this is ignored in the Negat1ve Declaration and the houses are
built after rezoning, the City will be gambl1ng that it can meet
noise standards both ins1de and outside. Who's responsible? The
C1 ty because it issued the building permits? He stated the
Negative Declaration was inadequate.
Secondly, he would like to see something done with that site but
would like to see an attempt to have a project that meets zon1ng
and not have piecemeal zone changes. He felt the City should look
at the General Plan's Land Use Element and change zoning. The City
Counc11 has just appointed a retail committee to do surveys and
stud1es on how to enhance retail sales. Rezoning land from
commercial to res1dential would defeat this. He would like to see
it developed to Code standards without rezoning it.
Addi tionally, Mr. Antos stated the Var1ance advertised for is
wrong. They don't have to provide a 22' x 45' loading zone on a
25' lot. He read from the ~ to support h1S statement.
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Commissioner Orsini noted the noise studies were done in the late
afternoon and felt the majority of noise would be at n1ght from
9:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. Mr. Antos said his property is 100 feet
from Pacific Coast Highway and has no windows on that slde of his
home and noise is not a particular problem. However, it's
extremely loud outside. Plus there's more traffic on Pac1fic Coast
Highway now than in 1975.
Cha1rman Fife quest10ned the Negative Declaration's answers on
"Air", noting the answers were "No" and wondered if staff had
considered emissions from wood burn1ng fireplaces? Mr. Wh1 ttenberg
said there's no measurable way to effectively measure that.
There's no way to tell how many times a person m1ght use h1S
fireplace. This 1S more along the lines of looking at traffic air
quali ty 1mpacts based on vehicular trips etc. He noted AQMD
requirements must be met no matter what type of use is on the site.
Mr. Wh1ttenberg agreed with Mr. Antos, that there should be some
clarification on the Negative Declaration re the impact of existing
n01se levels on the proposed res1dential uses. Those impacts
should be required to be mitigated as part of the project approval.
Those impacts can be pred1cted by site noise studies and through
computer models.
No one in the audience w1shed to speak further in opposition to the
proposal.
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Applicant Rebuttal
Mr. Watson sa1d he had no rebuttal comments. He felt he could
mi tigate Mr. Antos' concerns. He stated he felt the property would
be developed at some point in t1me and that certa1n types of
construction (fast food restaurant, hotel, small restaurant) would
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not need Planning Commission approval. He felt alternative #4 was
the most aesthetically pleasing, the least traff1c impacting, the
greatest revenue generator and increases the neighborhood property
values and it's the most attractive for the community at large.
Cha1rman Fife cautioned about the Coastal Commission approval. Mr.
Watson sa1d he had been thinking about it and was prepared to take
the risk.
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Commissioner Orsini sa1d he liked the fact that there were no
'doghouses' on these plans. Mr. Watson said eleven 'doghouses'
would be an architectural disaster; he will have roof decks with
open access.
Mr. Watson said that if h1s project is approved "I will do better
than what you see".
Mr. Curtis addressed the issue regarding the Variance notice by
stating the shared use of the loading zone and noting the ~
makes no provis1on for this. Therefore, a Variance is needed.
Chairman Fife closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Orsini; SECOND by Sharp to approve General Plan
Amendments 1A-91 and 1B-91, Zone Change 1-91, Variance 4-91,
through the adoption of Resolution Nos. 1632, 1633, 1634 and 1635
subject to (1) eleven (11) Conditions of Approval as outlined in
the staff report; (2) compliance with the Government Code if low
income housing or some contribution thereto is mandated; (3) the
Negative Declaration be modified to provide a noise analysis will
be required prior to issuance of building permits for any
structures to ensure that the existing noise requirements of ~
Code of the City of Seal Beach are met. All recommended conditions
to comply with the acoustical analysis shall be complied with as
part of the plan check and building permit issuance process.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5 - 0
Orsini, Sharp, Fife, Dahlman, McCUrdy
Director Whittenberg clarified that the formal resolutions will
come back to the Planning Commiss1on on June 19, 1991 and the
matter will then be scheduled for the required Public Hearings
before the City Council in regard to the General Plan amendments
and the zone change. There is no requ1red Public Hearing on the
Variance unless an appeal is filed.
Mr. Watson advised he was hoping to commence construction by
December 1, 1991. He plans to build the project all at one time
and that should take about six months.
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8. Appeal of Director of Development Services
Determination Re Municipal ~ Violation at
223 Seal Beach Boulevard
staff Report
Mr. Cho delivered the staff report. [staff report on file in the
Planning Department]. The applicant, Peter Fielding, is requesting
an appeal of the Director of Development Services' determination
requiring the removal of a truck trailer used for storage which
encroaches into the requlred rear setback and loading zone.
Staff recommended denial of the appeal and required removal of the
trailer within fourteen days via the adoption of Resolution No.
1636.
Seretta Fieldlng - Mrs. Fielding stated she 11ves at 223 Seal Beach
Boulevard and conducts Growing Tree Preschool at the same address.
She stated that prior to their purchase of the property she
approached John Baucke, then Director of Development Services at
the City. They discussed problems with the alley and the use of
the trailer. They upgraded their property and landscaped it. Due
to zoning regulations they could not change the conditions of the
alley or the property's fence. John Baucke gave them permission to
place the trailer on the rear half of one half of the property.
The trailer provides height for wind protection and privacy for the
children from people who would walk in the alley. This permission
was granted "... as long as the trailer remains moveable and was
used ln our buslness and a fence was not placed around it so that
it became a permanent structure there would be no problem. I was
not told at that time of any ~ violation ...". She stated she
was totally unaware at the time of purchase of any problems with
the trailer. She presented a letter to the Planning Commlssion
written by Jackie Guidry, Secretary, Engineering Department WhlCh
made certain statements on her recollection of John Baucke' s
conversation with Mrs. Fielding.
Mr. Whittenberg read four letters in favor of the applicant from:
Steve & Vikki Caldwell - 220 17th Street
W. S. Meehan - 950 Catalina Ave. who own at
223 Seal Beach Blvd.
Frank & Teresa Gonzales - 212 17th Street
Jackie Guidry - City of Seal Beach Employee
[Attached] .
Mrs. Fielding said the trailer is not visible from the street or
the alley, it is not an eyesore, not a burden to her neighbors (she
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presented a petition signed by her neighbors). She requested the
Commission grant her a six month extension to allow the guidelines
for the Seal Beach Boulevard rezoning to be set.
Commission Comments
Commissioner Sharp said he had driven by and the trailer was not as
bad as many things parked in the alley.
Chairman Fife said it was no lmperative to force the trailer out,
especially Slnce the neighbors are uniformly support this appeal.
commissioner Dahlman asked staff lf this would undermlne ~
enforcement efforts? Mr. curtis said every time this happens it
undermines the ~ enforcement process. But there is an on-going
zoning text amendment on the property and it seems reasonable to
allow the Flelding's to continue thlS item up until the time the
new provisions are set forth.
commissioner Dahlman cautioned Mrs. Fielding that the zoning text
amendment under consideration is pretty substantial and probably
includes more than what will be authorized. It does not, however,
begin to allow building where the trailer is located. Mrs.
Fieldlng said she was thinking about adding a second story which
would have a covered lunch area for the children. Mr. Curtis
advlsed that the buildlng would have to be 12 feet from the
property llne.
Public Hearlng
No one wlshed to speak for or against this item and Chairman Fife
closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Fife: SECOND by Dahlman that the appeal be denied but to
stay the removal order for twelve (12) months.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5 - 0
Fife, Dahlman, Sharp, McCurdy, Orsini
Director Whittenberg advised that there is an appeal period of ten
days from the Commission decision to the City Council.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Charles Antos * 328 17th Street. Seal Beach - Suggested the
Planning Commission give serious consideration to setting up a
workshop with the City Council to figure out what direction the
Commission should have. This direction should be based upon what
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the City Counc11 and Planning
rezon1ng would be one suggestion.
suggestion.
commission discuss. Piecemeal
General Plan updates was another
STAFF CONCERNS
Director whittenberg discussed the Planning Commission meeting of
July 3, 1991. There is one 1tem scheduled but the applicant was
informed at the time of submission that there were not many items
for the July 3rd meeting and he agreed to wait until July 17th.
Chairman Fife said he preferred then to not hold the July 3rd
meeting.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Comm1ssioner Sharp sa1d he was concerned about the trash at the
service station near Bixby. Staff to research and report back.
Comm1ssioner Sharp asked staff to contact the Los Alamitos Reserve
Center to find out why the small aircraft are flying over Leisure
World. Staff is to research and report back.
commissioner orsini asked why the steel pipes are allowed 1n
alleys? He felt they obstructed the turn1ng rad1us. Mr. curtis
said the pipes are legal because they are not considered a fence.
Staff has been talking with the City Attorney's Off1ce with the
hope of changing the Code to not allow the pipes in the rear
setback. He felt they were installed to keep people from breaking
the drive aprons. Staff 1S to report back.
commissioner orsini indicated the owner of C-24 Surfs ide paid h1S
$150 fine promptly. He said there's a patio cover on Catalina
Avenue built without a permit. Mr. curtis adV1sed that when the
Building Inspector placed the stop Work Order the homeowner came to
City Hall and pulled all the correct building permits. This never
became a Code enforcement issue.
commissioner Dahlman discussed the C1ty'S June 4th election, noting
that election results showed 43% voted "Yes" on Measure B, 38%
voted "Yes" on Measure A and 19% voted "No" to both Measures. He
said "I think it's not a matter of the whole town coming out and
saying 'no development at all' they just want it done right".
commissioner OrS1n1 said his opinion on the recent election was the
"No" vote on Measure A was not a no to future development.
Chairman Fife asked Mr. Whittenberg 1f the C1ty Attorney's Office
had analyzed of the legal ramifications of rezoning the Hellman
Ranch? Mr. Whittenberg said the election was June 4th so that's
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too short a time to have done that research. However, the city
received an appl1cation from Mola Development Co. in January 1991
for the proJect again. staff 1S going through the process of
selecting the environmental consultant to review the environmental
work necessary to consider the applications currently on file ---
the Specific Plan Amendment and the Vest1ng Tentative Tract Map.
The project is the same as the prior proJect. Mola has filed th1S
application and the City 1S required by law to consider this
application within a certain period of time. Mola was covering
their bases in case Measure A did fail they still had an
application pending before the city. For another developer to
submit a proposal would require a negotiation between the property
owners and that developer to enter into the necessary option
arrangements to present an appl1cation to the city.
commissioner Sharp asked when the Planning Commission could expect
to hear the Bixby proposals. Mr. Wh1ttenberg said he could not
give specific dates. The final agreements with the environmental
consultants have not been finalized by the city. Those will be on
the City Counc11 Agenda at the June 10th meeting. If approved they
will go to the consultants for their execut1on. scoping sessions
should start wi thin the next two weeks. A draft EIR must be
prepared. Formal Public Hearings would start in about four to six
months.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Fife adjourned the meeting at 12:10 a.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Executive Secretary
Department of Development Services
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These Minutes are tentative and subject to Planning Commission
approval.
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The Planning ~o~~ion approved the Minutes of June 5, 1991 on
July 17, 1991.~