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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA
APRIL 1, 1992
I.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II.
ROLL CALL
III.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of March 18, 1992
2. Minor Plan Review 113-90
Address: 123 Eighth Street
Applicant: Mitchell Sheltraw, Architect
Property OWner: Al Brown
Request: Reduce size of proposed remodel from
801 square feet to 695~ square feet.
IV. SCHEDULED MATTERS
3.
Minor Plan Review #92-4
(Continued from 3-18-92 Planning Commission Meeting)
Address: 1017 & 1017~ Seal Way
Applicant: Freddie Leonard
Owner: Aram & Margarita Keusawan
Request: Reconsideration of carport addition
4. Seal Beach General Plan
Comprehensive Update Process
5. city Council Policy Statement #101
"Commercial/Industrial Developments,
Off-Street Parking Requirements".
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
6. Minor Plan Review 192-7
Address: A-36 Surfside
Applicant: Sears. Young Architects
Property OWner: Reed & Hernandez
Request: New three-story single family residence
with covered roof access structure.
7. Negative Declaration 192-1 and
General Plan Amendment 192-1
(continued from 3-18-92 Planning commission Meeting)
Applicant: City of Seal Beach
Request: Archaeological Element
VI.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
VII. STAFF CONCERNS
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VIII.
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Planning Commission Agenda
April 1, 1992
COMMISSION CONCERNS
ADJOURNMENT
Agenda Forecast:
APR 15
MAY 06
MAY 20
JON 03
JON 17
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AUG 05
AUG 19
SEP 02
SEP 16
OCT 07
OCT 21
NOV 04
NOV 18
DEC 02
DEC 16
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CUP #92-1 (701 Ocean/Tootsie's/ABC Beer & Wine)
MPR #17-91 (1621 Seal Way/patio cover)
CUP #92-2 (101 Main, suite 0, new restaurant)
CUP #12-89 (Super Saver Cinema Seven/CUP review)
Covered Roof Access (Review on Certain Addresses)
CUP #6-91 (Los Cabos Restaurant/ABC renewal)
New Standards: Expansions to Non-Conforming Bldgs.
Election: Chairman & Vice Chairman
CUP #8-89 (Baja Bills Restaurant/ABC renewal)
CUP #8-91 (Noel's Restaurant/ABC renewal)
CUP #14-91 (Spaghettini Rest./Entertainment)
CUP #15-91 (Cafe Lafayette/ABC renewal)
CUP 116-92 (Noel's Restaurant/Entertainment)
CUP #17-91 (Pasta Grotto/ABC renewal)
CUP #12-90 (Bonadonnas/ABC renewal)
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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES of APRIL 1, 1992
The regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting of April 1,
1992 was called to order by Chairman Fife at 7:32 p.m. in City
Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was said.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Fife
Commlssioners Dahlman, orsini, Sharp
Absent:
commissioner Law (absence excused)
Staff
Present:
Department of Development Services:
Barry curtis, Administrative Assistant
Joan Fillmann, Executive Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
1.
Minutes of March 18, 1992
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Sharp to approve the Planning
commission Minutes of March 18, 1992 as presented.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT :
4 - 0 - 1
Dahlman, Sharp, Fife, Orsini
Law
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2. Minor Plan Review #13-90
123 Eighth Street
Resolution #92-4
Staff Report
Mr. Curtis dellvered the staff report. [Staff report on file in
the Planning Department]. The architect, Mi tchell Shel traw ,
requests approval for a revision to prevlously approved plans,
calling for 106 square foot reduction allowing the second story to
be scaled back and the proposed dens to be replaced with lofts. A
third floor loft is now proposed for the new second floor unit,
wlth a small roof deck over the existlng second floor unit. Staff
is concerned with the proposed exterior of the structure due to its
hlgh pitched roofs and recommends a flat roof or lower pitched
design.
commission Comments
commissioner Dahlman asked staff if the reduction in square footage
resulted from the third floor loft area not being counted?
Mr. curtis said no, the loft area was counted as square footage.
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A full second story had been proposed. The new proposal has a lot
of open volume ceil1ngs thus reducing the second story
substantially in living area. The third story is a new proposal.
Commissioners Sharp and Orsini said they did not care for the
exterior appearance of the bU1lding.
Mitchell Sheltraw. Architect * 299 st. Joseph. Long Beach
Mr. Sheltraw said the front of the building is nondescript, the
view would be the bottom end of the eave line. He presented the
Commission a display of approximately twenty photographs of
neighboring buildings with similarly pitched roofs. This roof will
be constructed of kortan, a rolled sheet metal with a standing
seam.
Chairman Fife asked if th1S is the one-time expansion allowed by
Code? Mr. curtis said they are allowed a maximum expansion of 817
square feet and the new proposal is 695 square feet; they are using
up a large percentage of their 10%. Theoretically they can come
back for an addit10nal 122 square feet at a later date. The ~
says you can have a one-time or cumulative enlargement up to that
ten percent.
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Chairman Fife asked if any special fire exit problems would be
caused by construction of lofts at a third story level? Mr. curtis
said no, the applicant 1S required to meet all building and fire
codes.
Commiss1oner Dahlman asked the applicant about the number of units
and the number of parking spaces. Mr. Shel traw responded there are
five units and three parking spaces now and the same number will
remain after the remodel.
Mr. Curt1s reminded the Commission they do not have architectural
review authority but can make recommendations to the applicant.
One choice would be for the Commission to say it feels these plans
do not substantially meet what was approved and would like to have
a new hearing. The appl1cant would have to come back with a full
new request and chance the possibility of having that request
denied. Staff's discussions w1th the City Attorney's Office
revealed that as the municipal ~ is currently written the
Commission would not have the authority to deny this request based
solely on the architectural styling.
MOTION by Sharp: SECOND by Orsini to approve Resolution #92-4,
approving the request for Amendment to approved plans for Minor
Plan Review #13-90.
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MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT :
4 - 0 - 1
Sharp, orsini, Fife, Dahlman
Law
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Before the vote, Commissioner Dahlman noted this request is a
slgnificant change from the original plan. He would agree on this
only if it did not set a precedent whereby other plans would come
back to the Commlssion, radically remodeled, until "... they find
the point at which the Planning Commission is no longer going to
allow it ...".
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SCHEDULED MATTERS
3. Minor Plan Review #92-4
1017 and 1017~ Seal Way
Staff Report
Mr. curtis delivered the staff report. [staff report on file in
the Planning Department]. This action was carried forward from the
March 18, 1992 Commisslon meeting as the Commission directed staff
to work with the architect (Paul Gel jer) to design a carport
wi thout a negati ve aesthetic impact on the surrounding
neighborhood.
Commlssion Comments
commissioner Sharp asked for an explanation of the deck railing.
Chairman Fife asked the architect to speak to the Commission.
Paul Geijer. Archltect * San Clemente, CA
Mr. Geijer explained the deck rail will be 8' tempered glass and
will completely surround the deck. Underneath will be 18" wooden
louvers for ventilation. The glass square blocks of the carport
will be 6' 8" tall. Commissioner Sharp said the explanatlon
satisfied his questlon and thought it was a beautiful Job. Mr.
Geijer said the design has pllasters to break up the elevation.
Chairman Fife asked if the carport is open on two sides as
required? Mr. Geijer said the open sldes would be at 11th Street
and the opposite side. Mr. curtis said staff feels this satisfies
the requirements for a carport. However, if the building plan
check reveals this does not meet carport requirements the applicant
would (1) not be allowed to build the carport or (2) come back to
the Commission to alter the approved plans.
The Commission asked if the wooden street barrlcades are removed
how will the wall be protected?
Sergio Keusayan * 1713 Electric Ave.. Seal Beach
Mr. Keusayan said the present fence is a thin wooden fence that is
leaning. He felt the new block wall would do as well as the wooden
barricades. Commissloner Sharp said that parking was not allowed
in the stub streets and the traffic would only be residents pulling
into their own garages.
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commissioner orsini asked Mr. Keusayan if he had a car detailing
business? Mr. Keusayan explained his family owns seven cars and he
likes to keep them in condition by waxing them. He does not have
a detailing business.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Orsini to approve Minor Plan Review
#92-4.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT :
4 - 0 - 1
Sharp, Orsini, Fife, Dahlman
Law
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4. Seal Beach General Plan
Comprehensive Update
staff Report
Mr. curtis delivered the staff report.
the Planning Department].
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Dahlman to receive and file the staff
report on "Seal Beach General Plan - Comprehensive Update".
[staff report on file in
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT :
4 - 0 - 1
Sharp, Dahlman, Fife, Orsini
Law
commissioner Dahlman said the listlng of proposed issue papers was
good but did not state what the City's going to do with the General
Plan. The General Plan needs to state what the City is planning to
do and then how to achieve it in a comprehensive manner and not to
revise it piecemeal.
Mr. curtis explained the City's General Plan is about twenty years
old, written in 1975. Some piecemeal amendments have been done ---
the Housing Element was updated in 1990. The Land Use Element has
been updated periodically to take account of amendments through
zone changes and Specific Plan amendments. The City is looking at
updating the entire General Plan, achieving consistency within the
entire document. Commissioner Dahlman said many of the issues are
closely related and felt it would be best to consider them in
groups. Chairman Fife asked if the summary of issues was
exhaustive because he didn't see the issues of housing,
low/moderate income houslng stock listed. Mr. Curtis said it was
not exhaustive and items could be added.
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5.
City Council Policy Statement #101
"Commercial/Industrial Developments, Off-Street Parking
Requirements".
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staff Report
[Staff report on file in the Planning Department].
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Orsini to receive and file the staff
report entitled City Council policy Statement #101"
commercial/Industrial Developments, Off-Street Parking
Requirements".
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT :
4 - 0 - 1
Sharp, Orsini, Fife, Dahlman
Law
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
6. Minor Plan Review #92-7
A-36 Surfside
Applicant: Sears. Young Architects
Property OWner: Reed & Hernandez
Staff Report
Mr. Curtis explalned there would be no staff report because this
item had to be held over to the Planning Commission's April 15,
1992 meeting. The applicant provided mailing labels for his
Notice. The Post Office returned many of the Notices, addressed to
"occupant", saying they were undeliverable. City staff didn't know
if the Notice had been carried out properly so it was held off.
Chairman Fife opened the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Sharp to continue Minor Plan Review
#92-7 over to the Planning Commission meeting of April 15, 1992.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT:
4 - 0 - 1
Dahlman, Sharp, Orsini, Fife
Law
Mr. Curtis said staff has re-Noticed the newspaper but will not be
remailing Notices.
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7. Negative Declaration 192-1 and
General Plan Amendment #92-1
Archaeological Element of General Plan
Staff Report
Mr. Curtis presented the staff report. [Staff report on file in
the Planning Department]. Mr. Curtis said "When this was discussed
before the Commission last summer there was some concern raised
over why this version of the Archaeological Element was put forth.
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At that t1me we 1ndicated that both would be considered, the one
from the Committee that was not recommended by the City Council and
also the one by Committee member Hahn that was recommended by the
C1ty Council. Basically, staff's opinion is that the Letter of
Transmittal that Ms. Hahn put together for the Council explaining
the differences between the Archaeological Element before you
tonight and the one done by the Committee --- the letter she put
together adequately addresses the differences between the two. And
we feel, unless the Commission feels otherwise, this as recommended
by the Council, is adequate. If the Commission has grave concerns
about not hav1ng the other one before you it can be brought before
the Commission at a later date for review simultaneously with this
proposed Element".
commission Comments
Commissioner Sharp said he has been aga1nst this from the beginning
because he feels that the State and Federal regulations cover all
th1s. He said "I think it's been a complete waste of staff's time
and everybody else's time drawing this Element up it was
handled very poorly 1n the Committee and they can rationalize all
they want that it wasn't".
commission Dahlman complimented the Committee for painstaking work
that was carefully and thoroughly done. He was concerned that the
Appendix B - Nondisclosure statement was not very b1nding.
commissioner Orsini said page 2 said the Archaeological Element
consultant will be "selected" by the City Council. On page 9 at
paragraph 4.B.1 it says the consultant will be "approved". Mr.
curtis sa1d the word 1S "approved". Page 2 of the staff report
will be changed.
Chairman F1fe asked if the central purpose of the Nondisclosure
agreement was to protect sites from defilement? Mr. Curtis said
yes. D1Scussion followed on State, Federal and local laws
regarding site protection. Chairman Fife was concerned if the end
purpose was better served by keeping a newly discovered site a
closely guarded secret or whether to designate it as such, invoking
the protection of Federal and State laws. He said he would like to
see a penalty applied for someone violating the nondisclosure
agreement. He would rather see the City examine what steps clothe
~the site with maximum Federal and State protection and provide a
\procedure stating that's this is a disclosed and protected site or
no, that's not a site that merits protection.
The Public Hear1ng was opened.
Mark Hodgekiss * Old Town
Mr. Hodgekiss urged the Commission to adopt Negative Declaration
#92-1 and General Plan Amendment #92-1. He gave five reasons why,
noting there's a crisis 1n archaeology with 95% of the S1 tes
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destroyed by uncontrolled development, that 'the buck is passed'
continually and nobody else will protect the sites, that
archaeological sites should be put in sC1entific hands, not to
political uses.
M01ra Hahn * [No Address Given]. Seal Beach
Ms. Hahn said public access to information is necessary but
protection 1S needed. There should be no opportunity to allow
professionals to cloud information with secrecy using the same laws
that were set up to protect it to destroy it before the City even
knows it has something to protect. citizens would have access to
a Research Design and would have an idea what has been found and
they could keep an eye on what's being done and if that's
appropriate. She felt the Archaeological Element is written to
provide for Research Designs which should answer the problem of a
ci ty-apPo1nted archaeologist knowlingly glossing over something
important. The Element provides that the Research Design and the
final report be posted and approved by the City Council before
project entitlements can be granted.
The Public Hearing was closed.
commission Comments
commissioner Dahlman said he still had concerns as to when
everybody knows where a site is, how is that protected? Ms. Hahn
said sites are not described in a Research Design; there is no site
map. It says how important the site is, what sorts of things were
found. Ms. Hahn said arrowheads, obvious pots and chards are not
being found in this area --- what is of value to the scientists are
pollen, human hair, charred bone fragments.
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Orsini to accept Negative Declaration
#92-1 and General Plan Amendment #92-1 with the request that the
Nondisclosure appendix be reviewed again.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
NOE:
ABSENT :
3 - 1 - 1
Dahlman, Orsini, Fife
Sharp
Law
Comm1ssioner Dahlman restated that the city Attorney will review
the Nondisclosure agreement with the Commission's recommendation
this will be carried to the City Council.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no oral communications from the audience.
STAFF CONCERNS
Mr. Curtis introduced Beth Partridge and Jason Tobias, part-time
volunteer interns in the Planning Department.
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COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Orsini congratulated Frank Laszlo on his re-electlon
to the City Council.
commission Dahlman said he has received many telephone calls on
plotting the Seal Beach Trailer Park. He read from Title 25:
All mobile home lots shall be numbered or designated by
street number or other approved means and the lot lines
defined. Lot designations shall be in a conspicuous
location facing the roadway lot lines shall be
defined by corner markers or other approved means.
Mobile home accessory building or structure shall not be
located closer than three feet from any lot line.
Application and Scope. The Department shall administer
and enforce all the provisions of this Article as they
relate to mobile home parks except within a city ...
which has assumed responsibility for enforcement of
division 13, part 2.1 of the Health and Safety Code.
He said this tells him quite clearly lot lines are needed and the
City can assume responsibility to assume control of the Trailer
Park. Mr. Curtis said the Planning Department and City Manager's
Office have met with the Clty Attorney's Office to discuss the
possibility of retroactively requiring lot lines for the Trailer
Park. When the Park was originally relocated, the City's position
on lot lines was that they refer to the Park in general and not
each specific space; perhaps that was not the proper
interpretation, but that has been the Clty's policy since the Park
was relocated.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Fife adjourned the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
C\o~~ -
Joan Fillmann
Recording Secretary
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The April 1, 1992 Planning commi~ion Minutes were approved by the 0
Planning Commission on April f~ _ 1992. ~