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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AGENDA of NOVEMBER 4, 1992
7:30 P.M. * City Council Chambers
211 Eighth street, Seal Beach, CA
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II. ROLL CALL
ill. CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of October 7, 1992
2. Minutes of October 21, 1992
IV. SCHEDULED MATIERS
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3.
Conditional Use
[continue.d from
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Not.e:
4.
Conditional Use
Operation:
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Permit #92-2
10""""92]
101 Main street, suite "0"
SeaSide Grill
Ronald , Patricia Sesler
Jim Watson
Modification of conditions.
Extension of hours to
1:00 daily.
#92-30
~he applicant has requested to
~end the hoUr$ to 11;00 p...
daily.
Permit #92-11
Thrifty Drug store
12419 Seal Beach Boulevard
Thrifty corporation
century National Insurance Co.
After-the-fact CUP for #21 ABC
license.
#92-44
Conditional Use Permit #92-18
Operation: Lucky's Market
Address: 12451 Seal Beach corporation
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10.
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Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
6.
Conditional Use
operation:
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Note;
7.
Conditional Use
operation:
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
8.
Conditional Use
Operation:
Address:
Applicant:
Representative:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Note;
Conditional Use
Operation:
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Height variation
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owners:
Request:
Resolution:
Lucky stores, Inc.
Century National Insurance Co.
After-the-fact CUP for #21 ABC
license.
#92-45
Permit #92-9
Mobil Gasoline station
1300 Pacific Coast Highway
G , M oil Company, Inc.
George A. Pearson
CUP for business operating
between 2 a.m. - 6 a.m.
#92-46
TO b$ continu$d to 11-18~92
Permit #92-17
Shell Gasoline station
347 Main street
Shell oil Company
Shell oil Company
CUP for business operating
between 2 a.m. - 6 a.m.
#92-47
Permit #91-15
Cafe Lafayette
330 Main Street
S. Torabi , M. Bidarian
Fred H. Middaugh, Esq.
Aaron Weiner
CUP for serving beer and wine.
# (None Assigned)
.emo only; no staff ~epo~t.
Permit #92-13
Restaurant papillon
143 Main Street
Nader Tahvildari
Dorothy Nescher
Entertainment permit.
#92-48
#92-23
B-7 Surfs ide
John M. Artukovich
John , Lucille Artukovich
Approval of a Height variation
for an existing CRAS.
#92-49
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21.
Request:
Resolution:
Height variation
Address:
Applicants:
Property Owners:
Request:
Resolution:
Not-e:-
Height variation
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Height variation
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Height variation
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Height Variation
Address:
Applicants:
Property Owners:
Request:
Resolution:
Approval of a Height Variation
for an existing CRAS.
#92-55
#92-31
A-7 Surfside
William B. , Jo A. Lewis
William B. , Jo A. Lewis
Approval of a Height Variation
for an existing CRAS.
#92-56
To be oontinued to 11-18~92
#92-32
A-86 Surfside
Jane Nakagawa
Jane Nakagawa
Approval of a Height Variation
for an existing CRAS.
#92-57
#92-32
A-87 Surfs ide
Mark A. Klein
Mark A. Klein
Approval of a Height Variation
for an existing CRAS.
#92-61
#92-33
A-88 Surfside
Nicholas Bonfilio
Nicholas Bonfilio
Approval of a Height Variation
for an existing CRAs.
#92-58
#92-34
A-62 Surfs ide
John P. , Isabel C. Brunn
John P. , Isabel C. Brunn
Approval of a Height Variation
for an existing CRAs.
#92-59
22. Height variation #92-35
Address: A-95 Surfside
Applicants: Wayne , cynthia Tomlinson
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VI.
VII.
VIII.
IX.
Property Owners:
Request:
Resolution:
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
STAFF CONCERNS
COMMISSION CONCERNS
ADJOURNMENT
Wayne & cynthia Tomlinson
Approval of a Height Variation
for an existing CRAs.
#92-60
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CITY OF SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION * AGENDA FORECAST
STAFF REPORTS PENDING: NOT AGENDIZED
* Review of CUP's for Businesses Open 2-6 A.M.
1. Not rec'd Seal Beach Chevron Scheduled:
2 . cur #92 17 Ceal Deach Chell Cchcduled: 11/4/92
3. cur #92 9 C&U oil Ccheduled: 11/4/92
4. cur #92 16 Jim's CheYJ'ron Cchedulcd: 10/21/92
5. Not rec'd Union 76 Scheduled:
6. Not rec'd Donut City Scheduled:
7. Not rec'd Taco Bell Scheduled:
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Review of 12 establishments selling liquor w/o City cUP.
1. cur #92 10 Irishcr Cchcdulcd: 11/04/92
2. cur #92 14 Old Ranch CC Cchcdulcd: 10/21/92
3. cur #92 20 Johna Food Ccheduled: 11/04/92
4. cur #92 11 Thrifty Drug Cchedulcd: 11/04/92
5. CUP #92-15 Rossmoor Bowl Scheduled:
6. Not rec'd Glider Inn Application ~ Submitted
7. Not rec'd Dolphin Mkt. Scheduled:
o. cur #92 0 cn Liquor Cchedulcd: 10/21/92
9. Not rec' d Nip n Stuff will not submit application
10. Not rec'd Leisure Mkt. Scheduled:
11. cur #92 10 LucJcy'a pnct. Cchedulcd: 11/04/92
12. cur #92 19 Clancy'o Cchedulcd: 11/04/92
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ZTA #92-2
Entertainment Cafes (Pending City Manager's
work on one day permits)
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CUP #92-7
Unocal/99 Marina/Reactivate oil Dehydration
Facility) [Environmental work being done]
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CUP #14-91
Spaqhettini's/Entertainment/One year review.
[ABC going to review their position first].
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cuP #
MPR #92-
Donut city/You for video games on premises.
Old Ranch Country Club/Entertainment/Obtain CUP
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HV#
CRAS (Thompson @ 1305 Sandpiper)
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MPR #92-22
94 Welcome Lane/Latta/ 2-story cabana/Res. 92-30
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NOV 18
CUP #17-91 (Pasta Grotto/ABC indefinite extension)
CUP #92-12 {Jeff Overeem} To be heard together.
VAR #92-2 {Jeff Overeem}
CUP #92-10 (Irisher/After-the-fact CUP/ABC)
CUP #92-19 (Clancy's/After-the-fact CUP/ABC)
CUP #92-20 (John's Food King/After-the-fact CUP/ABC)
CUP #91-19 (Envipco Recycling Machines @ Pavillions)
CUP #92-9 (Mobile @ 1300 PCH/Open 2-6/Res. 92-46)
HV #92-29 (HV for CRAS @ A-7 Surfside)
HV #92-37 (HV for CRAS @ 325 16th street)
HV #92-38 (HV for CRAS @ 252 16th street)
HV #92-39 (HV for CRAS @ 254 16th street)
HV #92-40 (HV for CRAS @ 404 Ocean Avenue)
HV #92-41 (HV for CRAS @ 117 4th street)
(Ordinance re Crestview Encroachments &
Walls Along Major Arterials) .
DEC 09
DEC 23
JAN 06
JAN 20
FEB 03
FEB 17
MAR 03
MAR 17
APR 07
APR 21
MAY 05
MAY 19
JUN 09
JUN 23
JUL 07
JUL 21
AUG 04
CUP #12-90 (Bonadonnas/ABC renewal)
Possibly no meeting due to staff furlough.
ZTA for allowing entertainment in R-G zone.
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SEP 08
SEP 22
OCT 06
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NOV 03
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DEC 08
DEC 22
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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 4, 1992
The regularly scheduled Plannlng Commlssion meetlng of November 4,
1992 was called to order by Chairman Fife at 7:30 p.m. in City
Council Chambers.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner orsini.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Fife
Commlssioners Dahlman, Sharp, Orsini, Law
Staff
Present:
Mike Colantuono, Clty Attorney
Department of Development SerVlces:
Lee Whittenberg, Director
Barry Curtis, Administrative Assistant
Joan Flllmann, Executive Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
1.
Minutes of October 7, 1992
MOTION by orsini; SECOND by Dahlman to approve the Planning
Commission Minutes of October 7, 1992 as presented.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
ABSTAIN.
3 - 0 - 2
orsini, Dahlman, Sharp
Fife, Law
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2. Minutes of October 21, 1992
MOTION by Fife; SECOND by Dahlman to approve the Planning
Commission Minutes of October 21, 1992 with two changes:
Page 12, paragraph 3: "Commissioner Dahlman said many back
yards are not big". [Emphasis added]
Page 16, paragraph 6: "bend" not "bet".
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Fife, Dahlman, Sharp, orsini, Law
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Chairman Flfe indicated this Agenda has thlrteen Height variation
applications for eXlstlng covered roof access structures. He asked
for an audience show-of-hands for persons here for this item. One
person raised her hand.
MOTION by Fife; SECOND by Orsini to consider agendized items #10-22
first on tonight's agenda.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Fife, orsini, Dahlman, Sharp, Law
commissioner Sharp suggested consolidating the staff reports for
the Height Varlations. All the CRASs are over-sized, all are
existing and all are in SurfSlde. Director Whittenberg indicated
item #16, Helght variation #92-29 for A-109 Surfside, is not
prepared for hearing and he requested continuation to the November
18th Commission meeting. Staff was unable to locate the existing
approved plans.
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Fife to continue Height variation #92-
29 for A-l09 Surfside to the regularly scheduled Planning
commission meeting of November 18, 1992; this will be a Public
Hearing item.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Dahlman, Fife, Sharp, orsini, Law
Staff Report
Mr. Whittenberg consolidated and summarized the staff reports.
[Staff reports on flle in the Plannlng Department].
commission Comments
Commissioner Dahlman asked lf the CRAS rooflng materials matched
the structures' rooflng materlals. Mr. Whittenberg said yes.
Public Hearlnq
Chairman Fife opened the Public Hearlng.
for or against any of the applications.
closed.
No one wished to speak
The Public Hearing was
commission Comments
MOTION by Orsini; SECOND by Sharp to approve Agendized items #10
through 15 and #17-22 as follows:
Height Variation #92-23 for B-7 Surfs ide through Resolution #92-49
Height variation #92-24 for B-17 Surfs ide through Resolution #92-50
Height Variation #92-25 for B-26 Surfs ide through Resolution #92-51
Height variation #92-26 for B-27 Surfside through Resolution #92-52
Height Variation #92-27 for B-28 Surfs ide through Resolution #92-53
Height Variation #92-28 for A-84 Surfside through Resolution #92-54
Height Variation #92-31 for A-7 Surfside through Resolution #92-56
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Height variation #92-32 for A-86 Surfs ide through Resolution #92-57
Height variation #92-33 for A-88 Surfs ide through Resolution #92-58
Height variation #92-34 for A-62 Surfside through Resolution #92-59
Height variation #92-35 for A-95 Surfside through Resolution #92-60
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
orsini, Sharp, Fife, Dahlman, Law
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Chalrman Fife proposed the Commission consider ltems #4 and #5 out
of order on the Agenda.
MOTION by Fife; SECOND by Sharp to consider item #4,
Conditional Use Permit #92-11 for Thrifty drug store, and item
#5, Conditional Use Permit #92-18 for Lucky's Market, out of
agendized order.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Fife, Sharp, Dahlman, orsini, Law
4.
Conditional Use Permit #92-11
12419 Seal Beach Boulevard
Thrifty's store #220
Resolution No. 92-44
5. Conditional Use Permit #92-18
12451 Seal Beach Boulevard
Lucky's Store #977
Resolution No. 92-45
staff Report
Mr. Whittenberg suggested he combine
staff reports in a general summary.
agreed.
the presentation of both
The Planning Commission
[staff reports on file in the Plannlng Department]. The
applicants, Thrifty Corporation and Lucky stores, Inc., are
requestlng Plannlng Commission approval for after-the-fact
Conditional Use Permlts (CUP #92-11 and CUP #92-18), for the
sale of beer, Wlne and distllled spirlts at Thrlfty's store
#220 at 12419 Seal Beach Boulevard and Lucky's store #877 at
12451 Seal Beach Boulevard. Staff recommends approval of both
applications subject to conditions.
commission Comments
Chairman Flfe asked the orlgin of condltion of approval #19:
Mr. Whittenberg sald it was one of the proposed standard
conditlons approved ln a POllCY statement which the Commission
considered about six weeks ago. There may be conflicts with
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the Government Code; this will be reviewed. staff would not
object to deletlon of this condition. Chairman Fife said the
def ini tion of "motor fuels" should be tlghtened. Commlssioner
Dahlman suggested the wordlng "gasollne and dlesel" lnstead of
"motor" .
Public Hearinq
SallY Rainwater * Thriftv Corp.. 3424 Wilshire Blvd.. Los
Anqeles
Ms. Rainwater presented the Commission wlth a lighting plan
and current ABC llcense for store #220. She questioned the
language of the followlng condltlons of approval:
19. Off-sale liquor establishments shall not sell or
store motor fuels on the same premises as alcoholic
beverages.
She asked if the purpose of this condltlon is an environmental
issue or is it an attempt to monitor premises with an attempt
to control driving with the sale of alcoholic beverages.
Chairman Fife indicated it was the latter, to minimize the
accesslbllity of alcohol and driving together. The condition
will be changed to read:
19. Off-sale liquor establishments shall not sell or
store gasoline or diesel fuels on the same premises
as alcohollC beverages. [Emphasls added].
Ms. Rainwater said that was acceptable as modified.
13. Special security measures such as security guards,
door monitors, and burglar alarm systems may be
required.
Ms. Ralnwater sald Rossmoor Shopping Center has security
guards, provlded by the lessor and paid on a pro-rated basis
by the tenants. The language leaves lt open for the City, at
a future date, to requlre Thrifty to provide a guard. This
would be a considerable expense. Thrifty has their own
security loss preventlon department. Each officer has
approximately five stores WhlCh are monitored on a regular
basis. They perlodically run shoppers through. The manager's
office is being moved to the front of the store; the manager
spends all his on-duty time at the front of the store
monitorlng what's gOlng on.
15. It shall be the responsibility of the
applicant/ licensee to provide all staff with the
knowledge and skills that will enable them to
comply with their responsibilities under State law.
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The knowledge and skills deemed necessary for
responsible alcoholic beverage service shall
include, but not be limited to the following topics
and skills development:
b) The potential legal liabilities of owners and
employees of businesses dispensing alcoholic
beverages to patrons who may subsequently
injure, kill, or harm themselves or innocent
victims as a result of the excessive
consumption of alcoholic beverages.
d) Methods for preventing customers from becoming
intoxicated, methods for dealing with
intoxicated customers and recognizing underage
customers.
Ms. Ralnwater said (b) pertalns to on-sale not off-sale.
Thrifty is not dispenslng, they are selling retail
packaged goods. Thrifty does cover liabllities when an
employee makes a retall sale. Chairman Fife asked if the
state regulations require an off-sale licensee to take
into account the level of intoxication of a customer?
Ms. Ralnwater said yes, not in terms of level, but they
do provide a guide line of signs indicating intoxication.
Thrifty provides that In thelr training materlals. The
DMV publishes levels based on body welght and height.
Thrifty's employees are not trained to that level.
Thrlfty's training requires anyone wantlng to work at
Thrlfty's to sign an affidavit of a Thrifty employee
manual WhlCh covers alcohol and drug abuse, alcoholic
beverage sales, safety and securl ty measures. As of
January 1, 1992, the ABC has made it a legal requirement
that anyone maklng an alcohollC beverage sale read and
sign a Clerk's Affidavit; all Thrifty employees have done
this. These are kept in the employee files at corporate
headquarters with a xerox copy at the store. Thrifty
lssues a monthly llquor bulletln which covers new and
changing laws and reminders of the on-going laws. All
employees must sign an affidavit that they have read and
understood the bulletin. Thrlfty asked ABC to send an
investigator trained ln the ABC's training program LEAD
(Licensee Education in Alcohol and Drugs). They certlfy
attendees at that program. This particular training
seSSlon was videotaped. This tape lS part of new Thrlfty
employees tralning book management and clerk level.
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Chairman Fife asked staff if the wording:
b) The potential legal liabilities of owners and
employees ...
requlres store clerks to know tort law? Mr. Whittenberg
said this condltion is aimed at taking ABC training
programs to provide basic knowledge and exposure to
liabilities that owners and employees could encounter by
selllng to lntoxicated indlviduals. This condition hopes
to ensure that CUP applicants are aware that this is
available. Thrifty feels the language of this condition
falls under dramshop laws ln terms of liability for
someone leaving your premises and injures themselves or
another. Those laws would rarely apply to a retail
operation. Chairman Flfe sald Thrifty's responsibility
for educating customers is not covered in this language
about their potential llabilities.
Chairman Flfe sald the followlng language was more
approprlate for an on-sale licensee:
d) Methods for preventing customers from becoming
intoxicated ...
Commlssion Dahlman suggested deleting this wording.
staff had no Ob)ectlon. (D) will read:
d) Methods for dealing with intoxicated customers
and recognizing underage customers.
Chalrman Flfe asked if fine tuning on this CUP will
undercut the CommlSSlon's earlier POllCY statement? Mr.
Whittenberg said no, because the policy statement has not
been formally approved by the Planning Commission. It
will come back to the Commission at the November 18th
meetlng. Wordlng can be separated for on-sale and off-
sale premises.
Ms. Ralnwater questioned condltion of approval #17:
17. The applicant/licensee must bear the cost of
modifications or cease operations if harm or retail
related problems are demonstrated to occur as a
result of criminal or anti-social behavior,
including but not limited to the congregation of
minors, violence, public drunkenness, vandalism,
solicitation and/or litter.
She asked the Commlssion to conslder that when asking the
applicant/llcensee to bear the costs for anything
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occurring on the premises as a result of congregating
persons that each tenant's lease has clauses dealing with
the Center's common area. In Thrifty's lease, the lessor
is responsible for that. Thrlfty's pays pro-rated fees
for common area maintenance expenses and the guards.
Chairman Fife said this condition would not change the
contractual relationship between Thrifty's and Rossmoor
Center. Ms. Rainwater sald Thrlfty's is sensitive after
the civil unrest ln Los Angeles.
commissioner Dahlman noted Thrifty's lS meeting and
exceeding all the conditions. If Ms. Rainwater I s concern
is that the Clty would interpret these conditions very
strictly, causlng something new to be done, that is not
the Commission's intention. Chairman Fife said if all
establlshments had tralning programs on a par with
Thrlfty's the POllCY statements would not be needed.
What Ms. Rainwater described more than meets what the
Commission is trying to accomplish.
Regarding condltion #13, about securlty measures, Ms.
Rainwater said all Thrifty stores have burglar alarms.
City Attorney, Mlchael Colantuono, suggested new wording
for conditlon #13, to meet staff's intent:
13. In the event staff determines that security
problems exist on the site, the conditions of
this permit may be amended, under the
procedures of the Seal Beach municipal Code,
to require the provision of additional
security.
This is a notice provislon to tell the licensee that the
Clty wants them to pay attention to these lssues. If
they become a problem, the licensee may be brought back
before the Commlssion for an involuntary amendment to
thelr permit to address a problem that has arlsen. It is
not intended that security could be lmposed without a
hearlng process.
Ms. Ralnwater said the new wording was acceptable.
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Ann Grassle Hall *
Buena Park. CA
Luckv stores. 6565 Knott Avenue,
Ms. Hall presented a copy of Lucky's current ABC license.
She asked lf Lucky Stores took exception to conditions of
approval after Commlsslon approval could they come back
to the Commission. Dlrector Whlttenberg said the proper
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time is now for expressing concerns so the Commission
could consider modifications to the conditions. Once an
act1.on has been taken the procedure to amend those
cond1.tions would be to f1.le an appeal to the City Council
or, at a later point, asking the Commission for a
modification. Both of these processes involves Public
Hearings. Ms. Hall sa1.d she did have a problem with
condition #19, but if it is reworded as described she has
no problems with the cond1.tions.
Chairman Fife closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to approve Conditional Use
Permit #92-11 by the approval of Resolution No. 92-44 and
to approve Conditional Use Permit #92-18 by the approval
of Resolution No. 92-45, subject to rewording of
conditions of approval #13, #15(d), and #19 as follows:
13. In the event staff determines that security
problems exist on the site, the conditions of
this permit may be amended, under the
procedures of the Seal Beach municipal Code,
to require the provision of additional
security.
15. ... d) Methods for dealing with intoxicated
customers and recognizing underage customers.
19. Off-sale liquor establishments shall not sell
or store gasoline or diesel fuels on the same
premises as alcoholic beverages.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Sharp, Law, Fife, Dahlman, Orsini
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6. Conditional Use Permit #92-9
1300 Pacific Coast Highway
Mobil Gasoline Station
Mr. Whittenberg explained the Seal Beach Journal did not
publish all the Public Hear1.ng Not1.ces as required under the
municipal Code. Staff requested this be continued to re-
Notice.
Public Hearing
Chairman Fife opened the Publ1.c Hearing.
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MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Sharp to continue the Public
Hearing for Conditional Use Permit #92-9 to the Planning
commission meeting of November 18, 1992.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Dahlman, Sharp, Orsini, Fife, Law
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8. Conditional Use Permit #92-15
330 Main Street
Cafe Lafayette
[No resolution]
staff Report
Mr. Whl ttenberg explained there is no staff report. The
Commission needs only to receive and file the staff memo.
RECEIVE AND FILE staff's memo on CUP #92-15, delaying review
for one year, allowing Cafe Lafayette to obtain their ABC
license and sell beer and wine one year prior to City review.
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MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Fife to consider item #7 as the
next Agenda item.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Sharp, Fife, Dahlman, orsini, Law
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7. Conditional Use Permit #92-17
347 Main Street
Shell oil Company
Resolution #92-47
staff Report
Mr. Curtls presented the staff report. [Staff report on file
in the Planning Department]. The appllcant, Shell oil
Company, requests to operate an automobile service station at
347 Main street between the hours of 2:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m.
This applicatlon was flIed ln response to Ordinance No. 1348.
Commission Comments
There were no Commlsslon comments.
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Public Hearinq
Chairman Fife opened the Public Hearing, asking those to speak
in favor of the application to speak first; there were no
speakers ln favor.
Joe O'Neal * Marina Hill [No address qivenl
Mr. O'Neal asked why it is necessary for this business to
operate from 12:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m.? His home backs to
Pacific Coast Highway and he has tolerated certain businesses
running for twenty years. He said 24-hour businesses can
create many nuisances but suggested the CUP for Shell oil be
left alone.
Mr. Whittenberg sald there's no Code prohibition against
unloading at night. The Code provides for noise standards.
The Commlssion could lmpose condition regarding the time of
malntenance and operation activitles and taker unloadlng
times.
Dan Edmonds * Area Manaqer, Shell oil Co.
Dick Greqorio * Shell Station Manager, 347 PCH
Mr. Edmonds sald the tanker delivery quadrants are divided
into three elght-hour sectors daily. If it's a problem they
can direct dellveries to be made ln the daytime hours, it's
not a problem for Shell. The structure at 347 Pacific Coast
Highway has not been painted in ten years. Perhaps the lube
bays were cleaned between 2:00 a.m. - 6:00 a.m. This is done
inside wlth the doors down.
For the Record Chalrman Flfe read a letter from Donald Pesch
in opposltion to thlS appllcation. [Attached].
Chairman Fife closed the Public Hearlng.
Commlssion Comments
Chairman Fife sald that as the Commisslon begins to develop
the legal authority to exercise some regulation over
buslnesses that are open 24-hours per day, the question
remains on what degree of regulation. The City cannot
blanketly shut buslnesses down between the hours of 2-6 AM but
the City doesn't have to turn it's head when they are being
unnecessarily unnelghborly.
MOTION by Orsini; SECOND by Sharp to approve Conditional Use
Permit #92-17 through the adoption of Resolution No. 92-47,
with the added conditions:
1.
The permittee shall
deliveries or to
activities between
The permittee is
not be permitted to receive
perform outdoor maintenance
the hours of 2:00 - 6:00 a.m.
reminded of its obligations
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pursuant to Chapter 13D of the Seal Beach municipal
Code regarding noise control.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
orsini, Sharp, Fife, Dahlman, Law
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3. Conditional Use Permit #92-2
101 Main Street, Suite "0"
SeaSide Grill
Resolution No. 92-30
staff Report
Mr. Whittenberg presented the staff report. [Staff report on
file in the Plannlng Department]. The present request is to
allow hours of operation from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. daily.
The staff report discussed the following areas of concern:
1. Ability of Clty to modify current ABC stlpulated
hours of operatlon.
2. Ability of ABC and/or Clty to restrict hours of
operatlon to less than 6:00 a.m. - 2:00 a.m.
3.
Impact of sales tax revenue from restaurants/bars
on Main street to City's General Fund.
4. Land use conflicts between Maln Street commercial
area and adjoinlng residentlal areas.
5. Enforcement capabillty of ABC and city re failing
to comply wlth Conditions of Approval.
6. Over-concentration/high crime crlteria utilized by
ABC.
7. Cumulative impact analysls re intenslfication of
use/expanslon of hours of operatlon.
Staff recommended denlal of the present request with deferral
of consideration untll the twelve month review, May 1993.
Staff recommends the Minutes of the October 7th Commission
meeting be forwarded to ABC for their lnvestigation purposes.
Chairman Fife asked lf ABC could deny a license without it
getting to the CUP review process? Mr. Whittenberg sald no,
if a city has a CUP process in place, ABC wlll not consider
the application untll the Clty has made a determination on
their CUP. Where a Clty does not have a CUP process, ABC will
make the determination.
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Mr. Whittenberg said if a city were to approve a new license
request in a h1gh crime/over-concentrated area ABC still has
the authority to deny the license based on their
investigation.
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Mike Colantuono, City Attorney's Office, commented on his
memorandum of November 4, 1992 on CUP #92-2. He said "The
California Environmental Qualitv Act (CEQA) requires that
every discretionary dec1sion that you make be evaluated under
the Act. You start with everything that's not mandatory, like
building permits, which are automatically issued over the
counter. Then there's a series of paths out of this statute.
There are a number of exceptions in the statute which are
called "statutory exemptions" and there's a list of those at
the back of your local CEQA guidelines. Then there's a list
of about 25 or 30 "categorical exemptions" which are
categories of appl1cations and decisions that cities and other
agencies might make that the State Secretary of Resources has
determined, in general, do not involve slgnificant
environmental effects. So rather than require the City to do
an analysis to reach the inev1table conclusion of no impact,
they tell you up front that if it falls in that class you
don't have to review it under CEQA. Staff has determined, and
I agree, that a Class 5 exemption which applies to minor
alterations in land use lim1tations, can be applied to
decisions llke this one. Where someone is applying for a
minor change 1n the limitatlons on a land use permit. So my
first conclusion is that staff's interpretation of that
Category 5 is appropriate. However, whenever you're dealing
with categorical exemptions, there are certain circumstances
under which - not w1thstand1ng the fact that you're in the
category - you shouldn't apply the exemption. If you're
dealing w1th a unique situat10n such as --- generally room
addi tions aren't' the kinds of decisions that will have
significant environmental 1mpacts -- but if you're d01ng a
room add1t10n onto a wetland, or you're d01ng a room addition
that's going to invade the habitat of an endangered species,
those sorts of exceptional circumstances, the one that's been
asserted here by some opponents of this proj ect, is the
exception for cumulative impacts. What that refers to is that
anyone decision is not going to have a significant impact but
if the dec1sion is part of a series of slmilar decisions at
the same time and in the same place which taken together will
have a significant impact, then you should not apply the
exempt10n. The example they give you 1S that if you do a room
add1tion, 1t's not a significant impact, but if you do a room
addition every six months untll you've built a 500 room hotel
it might well be a significant impact. So there is an
exemption for cumulative impacts. Whether or not this
appllcation, adding one hour a night, five days a week, to one
licensee, in one part of town is part of a factual pattern, a
series of appl1cations, a series of changes going on in town
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that has significant impacts is a questlon of fact. It is not
my role to make factual determ1nat1ons, it's your role to make
factual determlnat1ons. So what I'll tell you about that is
that your staff has concluded that there 1S not evidence of
that kind of a pattern. And they have recommended that you
find that the facts don I t support the cumulat1ve impacts
exception. I believe that that is a reasonable conclusion
which I could defend legally if I had to. If you view the
evidence differently, you have the opt1on to reJect staff's
recommendation and required that a so-called Initial Study be
prepared. An Initial Study 1S basically a check list that
takes staff through a series of quest10ns about the project to
determine whether or not it will have significant impacts.
The last th1ng I th1nk I need to say, and it's not in my
written report, is that the biggest exception to CEQA is that
it doesn't every apply to anything you reject. Because if the
project doesn't go forward lt quite obviously doesn't have an
environmental impact. So lf you accept your staff's
recommendation on the underlying application and deny the
request for an extens10n of hours at thlS time, this whole
CEQA d1scussion becomes academic. So unless there are any
questions for myself or staff you are free to open the Hearing
at this time.
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Chairman asked Mr. Colantuono how the Planning Commiss1on
could determine what straw it would be that would break the
camel's back? Mr. Colantuono said CEQA is not concerned about
existing environmental degradation. The purpose of CEQA is to
allow the Commission to see the consequences of its decisions
before they come. Between 1960 and 1992 there were a series
of deC1S1ons about how to use land on Main Street that
substantially changed the neighborhood. That pattern probably
fits the cumulative 1mpact. But it's history and CEQA is not
designed for archaeolog1cal purposes, it's designed to
recognize, analyze and mitlgate future lmpacts. The
Commission would have to question 1f there's a pattern coming
and does thlS fit 1n this pattern. Would that pattern have a
significant 1mpact.
Chairman Fife asked that when you're analyzing the effect of
a decision, what benchmark environment do you compare to? The
environment as it is presently degraded? Or, the environment
as it was before you started on this process? Mr. Colantuono
said you deal wlth the current envlronmental sltuation.
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Commissloner Orsini asked Mr. Colantuono if it would be
possible to suspend a CUP until the tlme of a hearing in a
case where violations continue to occur? Mr. Colantuono said
that whenever the Commission believes an applicant is
violating the terms of a CUP the Commission has the power to
revoke that permit. The appl1cant has the right to continue
to operate under that permlt, that right is a constitutionally
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protected property right which cannot be denied without a
notice and an opportunity to be heard. The existing municipal
Code requires a full Planning Commission hearing with a ten
day notice. There are some circumstances, like if you lose
your deposit for repeated burglar alarms, where the interest
at stake and the number of tlmes you're gOlng to go and
deprive that interest is so common that you couldn't possibly
function as a commission if you were to hear them all, you set
up more expedited procedures. But this City has not yet
written ordinances to propose expedited procedures in this
setting. So if somebody is violating the terms of your
permlt, and you want to act on those violations, you need to
have a Noticed Public Hearing before the Planning commission.
commission Comments
Commissloner Dahlman sald the Plannlng Commission has received
testimony that thlS particular type of use in the 100 block of
Main Street lS over-saturated and he has a concern over the
cumulative impact. If the Commisslon gives one hour now and
later the ABC allows them to 2:00 a.m. then they'll be back
for three additlonal hours.
Public Hearinq
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Joe O'Neal * 1330 Crystal Cove, Seal Beach
Mr. 0' Neal asked why Old Town resldents get preferentlal
treatment on buslness hours over those homes whose yards back
to Pacific Coast Highway? The H1II homeowners know there is
going to be nOlse and they don't complain. He sald if the Old
Town resldents get preferentlal treatment then the Hill
residents are going to get the same treatment.
Ron Sesler * SeaSide Grill
He introduced himself as the owner of SeaSide Grill. He asked
for his hours be extended for 11:00 p.m. for economic
necessities. He said the posslble profit in that one hour
might make the dlfference of loss or profit in the business.
He noted that if he had the cholce, llke the a doctor or an
attorney, of havlng appointments when a patron would come in
and eat at the Grlll the employees wouldn't have to stand
around and walt. He must have a full staff because he doesn't
know when they're going to get busy or what tlme he's going to
make hlS income. There have been times when he has had to
close the Grill wlth a full house. These are not dlsruptive
customers, they are cltizens of Seal Beach. He didn't think
one hour per day for flve days would have an undue lmpact on
the City.
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Commissloner orsini commented on the tax base to the City,
saying his previous comments on tax revenue were not about the
business owner's revenue but revenue comlng to the City of
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Seal Beach. He corrected hlS prlor flgure of $ .77, it's $
.15 per hour.
Mr. Sesler said Mr. Orsini would want to be a partner with him
only in his good hours -- he would not choose to be a partner
all day long. When he has a full house of customers it hurts
financially and mentally to close up. He continued to say
that $ .15 to the City might well mean $50 to him and on an
annual basis that would be a big lncome.
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commissioner Dahlman sald Mr. Sesler had implied these
additional hours might make a difference between going out of
business or not going out of business. Mr. Sesler said the
recession seems to be gettlng worse and the hours could make
a difference. He would be able to tell after he is able to
stay open the additlonal hours. His rent is very hlgh and he
needs the help. Commissioner Dahlman sald that since the
subject of City sales tax revenue enhancement, by givlng
SeaSide Grill an additional hour, was brought up, he
referenced staff report figures on sales tax as reported by
sales tax income tax returns by the businesses. Over the past
year, from the first quarter of FY 91-92 to the first quarter
of FY 92-93 the non-food Clty businesses have been suffering
from a receSSlon. They have only grown in sales 5.8%. The
establishments serving beer and wine have grown 22.6%. Those
servlng liquor have had thelr sales increased 45.6%. Mr.
Sesler said "Posslbly people are being driven to drink ...".
Commissioner Dahlman continued to say the Wall Street Journal
will tell you this is a good business ln a receSSlon. Yet Mr.
Sessler is telling the City he's in dlre straits. When he
sees 45% more money going to the State from establishments
selllng distllled splri ts that tells him there's 45% more
dlstllled spirits belng sold. "No wonder the whole town is
out wondering why there are drunks wanderlng around at 2:00
a.m. maklng nOlse and urinatlng on thelr bUlldings".
Mr. Sesler asked Mr. Colantuono what is the dlfference between
an establishment servlng hard alcohol being open to 2:00 a.m.
and an establishment serving beer and wine belng closed at
10:00 p.m. Is there a reason for this? Commissioner Dahlman
said he thought all establlshment should be subject to the
same hours. Mr. Sesler agreed, saYlng under the State code to
2:00 a.m. Commissloner Dahlman dlsagreed. Mr. Colantuono did
not reply.
Commlssloner Sharp sald that lf thlS establishment is able to
stay open another hour, that also generates wages and utility
bills another hour which helps the communlty.
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Scott Hogarth * 1007 Ocean Avenue #3, Seal Beach
Mr. Hogarth stated a recent Press Telegram artlcle prompted an
associate to ask hlm if he lived ln a garbage pit. He felt
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Seal Beach is the best town in Southern California. He said
when you live 1n Old Town, and if your windows face an alley,
noise from passers by are as normal as the pounding surf, the
loud speaker on the pier and the volunteer fire alarm. He
felt that anyone living near Main Street takes a certain risk
and can expect an occasional undes1rable or noisy passerby at
any time. The SeaS1de Gr111 is a positive addition to the
commercial district of Seal Beach and he hopes it survives.
He agreed the commercial business hours should be regulated.
The patrons of SeaSide Grill are helping the City's economy.
SeaSide Gr111 1S a positive image and should not be unduly
restricted by self-serv1ng and ever-present complainers.
Georqe Marino * Coastline Drive, Seal Beach
Mr. Marino said he has lived in Seal Beach since 1966. In
1966 the town closed up when the sun went down. There were no
lights on Main Street. You could walk out to the pier and
never see anybody. More people live here now and it's a
viable town. "You Just can't keep it the way these people
want it. That's what they want - the darkness. He stated he
has never personally seen people running around drunk and
urinating on the build1ngs.
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Hugh Levitt * Executive Chef, Walt's Wharf, Seal Beach
Mr. Levitt addressed Commissioner Dahlman's comments on
restaurants and bars making 40% profit, stating the economics
don't support that. There are many restaurants in Newport
Beach and the south county that are not making that kind of
profit and are clos1ng. He sa1d Walt's Wharf did not have a
better percentage th1s month than they had at the same tlme
last year. He quest10ned where staff got there figures and
said he would like to see the documents.
Olv Olsen * 5th Street/Marina Drive, Seal Beach
Mr. Olsen said SeaSide Gr111 1S a good place to go and he eats
70% of the time he goes there. He said Ron Sesler started a
business and has done a good job of making it go and now he's
asking for a small extension. He said there's a group of
people in the audience, he recognized their names from the
Seal Beach Journal, who can't f1nd a nice thing to say about
Seal Beach. He sa1d "I wonder what there is about Seal Beach
that they love that's so beaut1ful that they want to keep it.
Because they're ObV1ously not open1ng their eyes and seeing
what we have here --- an ocean, people vis1t1ng. They just
come a negatize it".
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Joe O'Neal * 1300 Coastl1ne, Seal Beach
Mr. O'Neal asked Commissioner Dahlman if he had the figures on
what the rent increases were on the commercial properties?
commissioner Dahlman sa1d the figures show gross sales and do
not reflect expenses.
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Russ Mavham * Montana rNo address Q1Ven)
Mr. Mayham said "All's I've heard is a bunch of mud slinging.
You guys, all you're doing 1S bad mouthin' ... with alcohol.
Where do you get off on telling somebody or judging somebody
what the alcohol lim1 t 1S in that person's body? Can you
honestly justify that?" He said SeaSide Grill is just asking
for a few hours to make 1t work.
Commissioner Dahlman asked Mr. Mayham to make that judgement
himself. Saying that Halloween night his daughter went to
Main Street to see the Haunted House. They were on the 100
block of Main Street at 9:00 p.m. People were stumbling out
of one bar and were barely able to make it to Hennessey's.
Somebody else, obviously drunk, made an obscene gesture in
front of his young daughter. Mr. Mayham said that could
happen anywhere you'd go. Mr. Mayham said he has four bars in
Montana and he's deal1ng with the same problems. Commissioner
Dahlman sa1d "That's not why I llve in this town and it's not
why a lot of people live in th1S town". Mr. Mayham said the
city would be in trouble 1f the business owners teamed up.
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Chairman F1fe asked Mr. Mayham how he deals with a patron
who's consumed too much llquor? Mr. Mayham said it's done
quietly and discreetly. In Montana there's a Home Free Act,
where the car keys are taken from an 1nebriated patron, a taxi
service is called and the patron is driven home. Mr. Mayham
said the City and merchants should come to a happy medium.
Comm1ssioner Dahlman said he daughter was not in the bar, she
was walking on the sidewalk on Main Street, trying see a
Halloween exhibit. If she was confronted with this so were
many other Seal Beach children. Comm1SS1oner Dahlman said the
owners need to take responsibility for being good ne1ghbors in
town. When people are drunk they need to stop serving them.
Mr. Mayham agreed but asked where 1S the llne drawn that 1t'S
just the bar owners problem? He felt the City's Police
Department 1S not patrolling enough. Commissioner orsini
asked Mr. Mayham 1f 1t would be best to have a police car in
front of every bar? Mr. Mayham said his bars are checked all
the time.
Joe O'Neal * 1300 Coastl1ne, Seal Beach
Mr. O'Neal asked the Comm1ss10n how a bUS1ness could succeed
if it can only be open to 10:00 p.m. at night? Commissioner
Dahlman sa1d the non-food bus1nesses barely made inflation 1n
terms of sales growth; they were hit hard by recession. Maybe
they couldn't 1ncrease their sales because there was no place
to park.
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Tom Charara * Seal Beach Bus1nessman's Associat10n President
Mr. Charara said Mr. Sesler 1S trying to run a business and
most of his bUS1ness comes at n1ght. It's difficult for a
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business to succeed if 1t's llmited to being open for certain
hours. Mr. Sesler 1S facing that type of decision and it's in
the Commiss1on's hands; this is a serious matter for Mr.
Sesler. He felt most of those people sitting in the audience
live in town, but they don't do business here. Some of them
don't care l.f Ma1n Street closes or not. He said "I've talked
to a lot of them. They want to see Main Street close at 10:00
p.m.". Mr. Charara said Main Street is the heart of this
town and would appreciate serious cons1deration. Chairman
Fife said Mr. Charara didn't have the slightest idea how he
was going to vote. Mr. Charara sa1d there are not two sides,
there is one slde, one c1ty, Seal Beach. Mr. Charara asked
Commissioner orsini if he remembered the restaurant he had had
in Seal Beach, the struggles he had. He added, "I spoke to
you when you owned that restaurant. You wanted to have a beer
and wine license, you wanted to have a patio, you faced
problems with parking, you seemed to resolve those problems
somehow. Well this man is trying to make a decent living".
Commissioner Orsin1 said "The hours all conformed with the
neighbor and everything was done with the neighbors".
Commissioner Orsini asked Mr. Charara asked 1f he would want
to extend his hours to be the same as other restaurant's hours
if the town got busier? Mr. Charara said his hours are
suffic1ent and added "You're trying to Judge this man on the
'ifs' and on the dom1no effect of the whole thing. This man
is trY1ng to do some business". He said the retailers are not
open past 6:00 p.m. and there 1S park1ng space. He stated he
supports Mr. Sesler fully and doesn't think he's asking for
anything unreasonable. He said the business community
supports Mr. Sesler and there are a few unsupporting residents
who are verbal but many residents support Mr. Sesler.
Commissioner orsini asked Mr. Charara if SeaSide Grill should
be judged by the people who are directly affected by it? Mr.
Charara sa1d yes.
John Baker * Nip 'n Stuff, Seal Beach
Mr. Baker said 1S a th1rty-year Seal Beach res1dent, business
owner, past pres1dent of the Businessman's Association. When
interviewed for a recent newspaper article he said he wanted
Seal Beach to be a place where a family or anyone could walk
up and down Ma1n Street and enjoy Ma1n Street in the evening.
Due to working hours he and his wife eat later in the evening.
Many t1mes they can't go to a Seal Beach restaurant because
the restaurants are closed. Many restaurants are open to
catch patrons after the theater. He sa1d there are not equal
hours on Ma1n Street. He doesn't want th1S city to be like
Belmont Shore. He w1shed the retail stores would stay open.
He wished the City could leave the holiday tree lights up and
on all year but the City says that's not a safe condition.
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Commissioner Orsin1 sa1d if the ratio of liquor selling
establ1shments in Seal Beach and Belmont Shores is compared,
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Seal Beach exceeds the Shores by a 3-1 ratio. There are nine
restaurant bars 1n the first block of Main Street. Mr. Baker
said it's natural to group the restaurants near each other and
on Main Street.
Joe O'Neal * 1300 Coastl1ne, Seal Beach
Mr. 0' Neal asked Comm1ssioner Orsini if he had been to
restaurant row 1n Palm Spr1ngs? Commissioner orsini said
restaurant row is fine in the dessert and so is Las Vegas
because the resident1al areas are not close to the commerc1al.
Chairman F1fe asked for a show of audience hands for those
persons supporting Mr. Sesler's application tonight; twenty-
two (22) persons raised the1r hands.
Glen Beasley * 120 Colleqe Park Dr1ve, Seal Beach
Mr. Beasley said he has lived 1n Seal Beach since 1942 and has
owned three bars - two 1n Orange County and one in L. A.
County. The City 1S fac1ng the same problems that many cities
have gone through before. The number of people against this
applicant don't live 1n an approx1mate area to be complaining
about the Ma1n Street area. The opponents don't want to see
anybody drink llquor.
Commiss1oner Orsin1 said there was a petition circulated and
the major1ty of signatures are on 8th Street. 8th Street
res1dents have the r1ght to judge th1S. Mr. Beasley said
there 1S no one 1n the 100 block of 8th Street that was there
when those bars went into business. Those buildings have
turned over and over, the people are either renters or new
buyers and they buy w1th the full knowledge that the bars are
there. Due to local opt1on, the City sets the hours by the
CUP process and the State accepts it at th1S point because
they don't have the personnel to enforce. He asked "Why
should you close down a man that is serving both food and beer
and wine and the people right next door to h1m are open to
either 1:00 a.m. or 2:00 a.m. And I'm not in favor of closing
him. The h1storical hours 1n the State of Cal1fornia have
been 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. It's not up to Seal Beach to
disprove or anyth1ng else as far as the jurisdiction goes in
the State".
Commiss1oner Dahlman said he would 19nore Mr. Beasley's
comment about his attitude but admitted he had a burr under
his saddle because of his daughter's experience Halloween
night. The point is that he lives more than a half mile from
the affected area and yet 1t d1rectly affects h1S family. The
people many blocks away do have a r1ght to speak on this
issue. Mr. Beasley sa1d he llves one block south of
Comm1ssioner Dahlman and the biggest danger to him is the
Newport-Inglewood Fault.
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Tonv Foyer * Rlverbeach, Seal Beach rNo address qiven)
Mr. Foyer said he 1 i ved ln Belmont Shore eight years and
enjoyed walklng in the area. He would not feel bad about the
pollce drivlng along Main Street. He said his crowd is in
their 40's and would enjoy a place to drink coffee after 10:00
p.m. He said he was on Main Street on Halloween waiting to go
into the Haunted House. He saw a van full of kids pull in
from Pacific Coast Highway. He doubted they were in any Seal
Beach bar. When they opened their car beer cans fell out and
they were noticeably drunk. Since Main Street is open people
that are already intoxicated can come In. Their children were
also there. They have the same concerns. He addressed
Commissloner Dahlman and sald "I think it's unfortunate that
you single yourself out with your experience about your
family. We all have the same concerns. But I don't think
that those indlvldual concerns should stop a man from being
open an additional hour ...".
commissioner Dahlman said hlS practice is to look at the
impact on the neighbors, the interface between the particular
use being applled for and it's impact on the neighbors.
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Steve Solberq * Seal Beach buslnessman rNo address given]
Mr. Solberg sald he is a local businessman and is irate. He
asked if this lS an impartial Planning Commlssion?
Chairman Fife said "Yes. You don't have the slightest idea
how I'm inclined to vote so don't judge me". Mr. Solberg said
he was not judging Commlssioner Fife but there were a few
Commissioners he could Judge just from sitting home watching
television.
commissioner Dahlman responded "I'm probably guilty of
appearing to have my mind already made up. And I have
previously made it a matter of record what my personal opinion
is on what the hours ought to be. And I have also stated that
I am not here to vote my personal opinions. I am here to take
testlmony and that's what I mean to do. When I ask questions
of somebody who makes a statement it's trYlng to ascertain the
truth. I may VOlce some of my own concerns in the process but
what I'm really trying to find out is, you know, where does
the truth lie. And I have to take testimony and evaluate the
evidence just like everybody else here. And my vote depends on
that. It doesn't depend on my own personal opinion or
prejudice to the extent I can possibly divorce myself from
it".
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commissioner Orsini sald that because it's his District he
probably has the most contact with area residents and gets
many calls at home. He said he was swayed by the residents.
He belleves ln what they want. He goes to Clancy's late at
night and shoots pool with his neighbors. He walks the
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streets every night. He 1S not in favor of women walking
alone at n1ght. Mr. Solberg's question was is the Planning
Comm1ssion 1mpartial. Commiss1oner Orsin1 sa1d a two years
ago he made a stand that restaurant hours should be
restricted. Everyone knows his stand. If that's 1mpartial
then he is impart1al. He has not changed.
Mr. Solberg said that 1f a patron is in SeaSide Gr111 and it
closes, he will walk over to Clancy's. So what is proved by
closing SeaSide Gr111? Comm1SS1oner Orsini sa1d if there are
now f1ve places open where they can go why do they need more?
Mr. Solberg sa1d SeaS1de Gr111 is a restaurant and Clancy's
doesn't have food. Shut down the bars and not the
restaurants.
Kristen Stanqland * 6th St./Ocean Ave., Seal Beach
Ms. Stangland sa1d women walking anywhere alone are 1n danger
but she walks along 1n Seal Beach and feels safe. The
frequents SeaS1de Grill and it's fam1ly or1ented.
.
Steven Meier * Clancy's, Seal Beach
Mr. Meier sa1d he doesn't condone publ1C drunkenness. All his
employees, to reta1n the1r employment at Clancy's, are
required to attend the ABC LEAD program. H1S customers make
his living and he wants them to be safe. Restaurant and bar
owners are not 1n the business to over serve people or to have
them cause problems for the people who do live here. If there
was anything they could do to prevent people from urinating on
other people's property they would.
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RECESS
Chairman Fife called a recess from 10:00 p.m. to 10:15 p.m.
Mitzie Morton * 153 13th Street, Seal Beach
Ms. Morton spoke in oppos1tion to this application, saying the
question was not one hour. The applicant 1S only four months
into his twelve month probation. She said about ten Ocean
Avenue res1dents wrote 1n oppos1tion. She hoped the
Comm1ssion would dec1de what const1tutes a closing hour. She
called ABC and found the ABC placed restr1ctions on SeaSide
Grill because he falls under the1r Rules 61.3 and 61.4. He
agreed to the ABC cond1t1ons by slgning a statement to this.
She said Belmonte's restaurant 1n Belmont Shores has about
fifteen ABC restr1ct1ons and one mandates serving alcohol only
in conjunct1on w1thjas part of a bona f1de meal. SeaSide
Grill is open now fifteen hours per day. Perhaps the $2500
rent is too high. If so, th1S 1S not the residents' fault.
The residents should not have to suffer to bailout a bad
business decision. She suggested Mr. Sesler approach his
landlord for a temporary rent reduction. She referenced Old
Town Cafe Wh1Ch is open only for breakfast and lunch and they
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appear to be dOlng flne.
objection to hlS staYlng
week ... I was one of the
and I stlll hold to that.
prove it I hope he
conditions".
She sald "I don't think we have
open to 11:00 p.m. throughout the
people who said he was in violation
I have the proof, if I need to, to
wlll no longer violate the ABC's
David Rosenmann * 208 8th Street, Seal Beach
He asked the Planning Commission Mlnutes of October 7, 1992 be
corrected at page 9 from " drlnking hole" to "drinking
village" . He dlsagreed with the Cl ty Attorney's comments
This property has increased up from a take-out pizza parlor.
This is a cumulative lmpact. We're at the point we need
environmental impact statements to identify problems and
mitigation measures and gUldellnes.
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Charles Antos * 328 17th Street, Seal Beach
Mr. Antos sald when a restaurant was flrst established at 101
Main Street it was a walk-upjtake-out establishment. Later on
tables were added without Cl ty approval. Later an application
was approved for alcohol. These were different operators.
This is now a request for expanded hours. The way the use has
grown is a cumulative lmpact. When the buildlng was built
there were many vacant lots ln town. Since that time
buildlngs have been added. No one has done an environmental
assessment. More food and alcohol uses have been added. The
City went through a revitalization study a few years ago and
this was sort-of adopted. The City then chose what parts of
that study they wanted to lmplement again wi th no
envlronmental assessment. All of these are cumulative
impacts. ThlS has now corne to rest on this applicant. The
City decision makers are at fault for not putting this
together in an EIR or assessment for the whole Main Street
area. If there wasn't an environmental effect the City would
not have created in-lleu parking. Each business wishing to
expand gets hlt with a cost per parklng space they don't have
on slte. This effects all the businesses. Another cumulative
effect is businesses requesting to modlfy their hours. That's
not modified down - lt' s to expand. It's up to the City
government to take responsibility for this, generate an EIR,
have a full Public Hearing and then corne up with mitigation
measures. Then, this won It happen each time an applicant
comes forward.
Commissioner Dahlman asked Mr. Antos if he wanted a Specific
Plan for Main Street? Mr. Antos sald the City should look at
the latest eXlsting Speciflc Plan, find out what has changed
and examine it for environmental impacts.
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Bill Avers * 707 Central Avenue, Seal Beach
Mr. Ayres talked about envlronmental concerns, market
saturation, control of excessive drinking and the attitude
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that the concerns of certa1n businesses come before the
citizens of Seal Beach. He discussed market saturation as a
bell-shaped curve. BUS1ness establishments keep being added
until you reach the top, a plateau, and then you start down
the other slde. During a recession the plateau is quickly
reached. He felt the C1ty has reached the market saturation
today because testimony has been given of businesses who are
having hard t1mes, who can't make their rents. This happens
in all markets. Regarding control of excessive drinking, he
noted Angel Stadium 1n Anaheim cuts off drinking in the third
quarter of a game. They serve only lite beer, their alcohol
prices are high (mak1ng it economically unfeasible to have too
many drinks) and the have police allover. The City should
take note of th1S. Regarding att1tudes, he noted the owner of
Noel's restaurant who works closely with his area residents.
We are concerned with our life style.
Norma Strohmeyer * Seal Beach rNo address q1venl
She said Clancy's and the Irisher have her unsolicited support
because they d1d not apply under the false pretense of being
a restaurant. She has not and will not attend certain events
on Main Street because "you have to slip and slide through the
slime on Main Street to take your kids to watch a parade on
Main Street" and "... the worst is yet to come".
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Gail Olsen * 707 Central Avenue, Seal Beach
Ms. Olsen asked Commissioners F1fe and Law if they watched the
video tape of the October 7, 1992 Commission meeting? She
requested they do reV1ew the tape because there were a lot of
people in the audience October 7th that aren't here tonight.
Julianna McCants * 1000 Electric Avenue, Seal Beach
Ms. McCants spoke for protect1ng the integrity of Seal Beach.
She said there are eleven city-sponsored events in Seal Beach
and many local res1dents she knows have to leave town because
they can't f1nd a place to park. This 1S bending over
backwards to help the C1 ty. She urged the applicant to
complete his probationary period before requesting his hours
be extended.
Roqer West * 1201 "A". Electr1c Avenue. Seal Beach
Mr. West, a twenty-five year C1ty resident, said those who
destroy what's most valuable in Seal Beach don't do it a
little at a time. He suggested the C1ty raise license fees,
saying the C1ty of Los Angeles' fee is $3,000 non-refundable.
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Gordon Shanks *
Mr. Shanks said
against "them",
merchants should
City res1dents.
215 Surf Place. Seal Beach
the worst thlng about this issue 1S the "us"
instead of working together. He felt the
be interested in keep on the good side of the
He said Mr. Sesler's ABC application states
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"The quarterly gross sales of alcoholic beverages shall not
exceed the gross sales of food and meals during the same
period". All along this was seen as a delicatessen-restaurant
that would serve beer and W1ne. He asked if anyone has
established if SeaSide Gr1ll 1S w1thin those limitations? He
felt the residents want another del1catessen, but it appears
that the City is turn1ng a delicatessen into a beer bar.
Reva Olsen * Seal Beach rNo address givenl
Said her concern was the 1ntens1fication of use without an
EIR. She felt the City has been v10lating the law. She said
"There are other people in town who have been consulting with
attorneys recently. Some very good legal advice does not
agree w1th the little man sitt1ng over there. He likes
lawsuits...". In 1986 Bob Cook told the City its Housing
Element and General Plan were not up to date. We were
v10lating our zon1ng laws. We were in v1olation with the
permits we were glv1ng. She sa1d "We know the litigation
we're in r1ght now is either because we had a blatant abuse of
the law or we had bad legal adv1ce". She recommended reading
the February 5th M1nutes when Hennessey's went in and see the
double talk the City got from our lawyer. She sa1d she was
very concerned about the llt1gat1on in Seal Beach.
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Bruce Stark * Seal Beach rNo address givenl
Mr. Stark sa1d the City has ten or eleven liquor
establishments in one block and that would cause problems. He
noted Mr. Sesler's comment that he was operating at a
disadvantage because he has to close at 10: 00 p. m. and
suggested an equ1 table solution would be to shut down all
restaurants at 10:00 p.m. Mr. Stark sa1d every time there is
an event (pancake breakfast, sandcastle contest, old car
shows) the City attracts an inordinate number of drunks. He
lives e1ght blocks from Main Street and he has to clean up his
front yard from th1S. He thought businessmen should be
conscious of their public 1mage. There is a need for an EIR
to show where we're going with an over-abundance of liquor
licenses in a small area must be ser10usly examined. Mr.
Sesler is tak1ng the brunt but is not the cause of the past
offenses. It's the prol1ferat1on of liquor llcenses granted
by the City are causing the serious and offens1ve problems.
If the City doesn't want to prepare an EIR, he suggested
police must be d1spatched to p1ck up the drunks. He suggested
denial of th1S applicat10n and if possible reduce the hours of
all liquor sell1ng establ1shments to 10:00 p.m. and get an EIR
to determine what is appropr1ate.
.
REBUTTAL COMMENTS - Ron Sesler
Mr. Sesler said he felt progress has been made and was please
to hear opponents speak of how things can be worked out. On
the 1ssue of h1S food he sa1d 1f h1S opponents had come down
and objectively had a dinner or lunch he didn't think they
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would have protested the amount of food or the way he served
his food. He serves over a ton of chicken per month. He said
he was sorry the Clty has had a lot of problems but a lot of
them can't be blamed on restaurants. Many people come to
visit Southern California beaches by the thousands on a daily
baS1S to enJoy what we llve in every day. He asked the
Commission to take that lnto consideration and not jeopardize
the buslnessmen.
Chairman Flfe asked Mr. Sesler when is his last call? Mr.
Sesler sald he closes at 10:00 Sunday - Thursday and 11:00
p.m. Friday and Saturday. Mr. Sesler said "We've moved it
back to quarter after or 10:30 p.m. because there's no way,
after we're being subject to scrutlny --- which the people
were correct, I dldn' t know I was in vlolation. I was
allowing people to continue to eat and drlnk if they had came
in --- now at this point we shut down early. So, 30-40
minutes we stop servlng, let them continue, finish up, take
their containers, and that's It. Effectively I'm open to 9:30
p.m.". If the hours went to open, his last call for ordering
food would be 10:30 p.m. and the last call for a beer would be
fifteen minutes. The objective would be to clear the
restaurant out at closlng tlme. Chairman Flfe asked if there
were possible ways to reduce clean up nOlse? Mr. Sesler said
he thinks he lS a good nelghbor, he polices the area for
debris.
commissioner Sharp clarified the ABC's appllcatlon permit the
sale of alcohol in SeaSide Grlll from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
daily. Mr. Whittenberg sald the City's hours are more
restrictlve and the applicant must follow the Clty hours.
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Sharp to correct the October 7,
1992 Minutes as suggested by Mr. Rosenmann.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSTAIN:
4 - 0 - 1
Dahlman, Sharp, Law, Orsini
Fife
Mr. Whittenberg entered the followlng correspondence for the
Record [Attached]: telephone messages from David Gaylord,
Scott Johnson and Eddy Lldoff, and letters from Pastor
Shoemaker of Grace Communlty Church, and Georgiana Brown of
14th Street.
Commission Comments
Mr. Whittenberg recapitulated the request before the
Commission.
Commissloner Dahlman said the lssue of an EIR is important,
not just for this one appllcation but for the many
appllcations re hours modificatlons to come. Together thls
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would constitute an environmental impact. He suggested askJ.ng
the City Council for direction. If they agree, proceed with
an EIR. There should be a standard to work toward. He said
he regretted hav1ng this applicant subJected to hours to which
his competit1on 1S not subject. In this case, most of the
similar establishments have the same hours he has. His
recommendation was to go along with the staff report and deny
the request for the additional hour and separately recommend
to the City Council hav1ng the Planning Commission launch an
EIR w1th the goal to having a level playing field.
commissioner Sharp said an EIR m1ght be needed if all of Main
Street, Rossmoor Center, Pacific Coast Highway were
considered. He said he did not bel1eve the extens10n of one
hour at SeaSide Grill would impact the C1ty or the people
enough for the Comm1ssion to have the right to deny it. The
applicant has done everything he can to get along J.n the
neighborhood.
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commissioner Orsin1 commented on Commissioner Sharp's
statement on the impact on the Old Town residents. He said at
one time Le1sure World was compla1ning about flights over
their area and noise during the day, and yet Old Town can put
up with n01se at n1ght. He noted this 1S the first time the
Commission has rece1ved a letter from a church objecting to a
liquor license; this is unusual. If an applicant applies to
ABC for a 11quor 11cense and a church complains the applicant
will have trouble getting a 11cense. He indicated he received
a statement from Le Roy Brown Wh1Ch said the parking lot
behind SeaS1de Gr111 1S rented out on busy days. That parking
lot is to be used for the bus1nesses 1n that building. The
spaces are rented out and are leased for all day.
Commiss1oner Law said 1f this one hour extension is granted
the city should be prepared for everyone of the restaurants
to request the same thing. She didn't think the one-hour
extens10n would be bad. If you want the town to stay open to
11:00 p.m. that's what this 1nvolves.
Mr. Wh1ttenberg said there are seven establishments on the
Main Street corr1dor Wh1Ch are restricted to a 10: 00 p. m.
closing time on some nights 1f not all. Don Juan's Taco is
requ1red to close at 9:00 p.m.
.
Comm1ss1oner Orsin1 asked if all establishments should be open
to 11:00 p.m.? Commiss1oner Sharp said he felt that would be
all right, there are some open to 2:00 a.m. serving alcohol.
A legitimate restaurant should not be restricted to closing at
10:00 p.m. Commiss1oner Orsin1 said "Everything is right to
a person that doesn't live 1n the area ... when I'm safe and
secure in Le1sure World what goes on outside those gates why
should I worry about it because I'm not going to be impacted
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by 1t.
noise.
complain
area, do
I'm as safe as I can be behind those gates. I have no
I have no problems. A plane goes by and I'm going to
about 1.t ...". There are five open in a one block
you need twelve open in a one block area?
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Chairman Fife sa1.d the central issue is the now-developing
problem of reaching a reasonable accommodation between the
legitimate needs of the businessman and the legitimate needs
of the res1dents. This 1S a unique situation -- a commercial
area backs up to a residential street. He said he was not
incl1ned to th1.nk th1S restaurant staying open to 11:00 p.m.
would that negatively 1mpact the nearby residents. He would
not feel the same way 1f the applicat1.on was for a 1:00 a.m.
closing. He was not 1.nclined, as a pattern, to f1nd that
these incremental extenS1.ons of hours or additions of more
restaurants serving alcohol on Ma1.n street are one-by-one-by-
one are not g01.ng to lead to a cumulat1ve adverse
environmental 1.mpact on the town. As yet there is no
procedure to identify what 1S the env1.ronment we're trying to
achieve on Main street and how is the process to be followed
to identify whether someone 1.S negatively 1mpacting it? He
was not inclined to reqU1.re a full EIR for th1.s appl1cation
because there has not been enough advanced warning. But he
d1d feel this part1.cular application 1dentified the need for
that kind of process in the future. He did not think the
general zoning and General Plan were sufficient for an area
such as Main street res1.dential/commercial area. It's a
unique comb1.nation of potentially conflict1ng uses. An
environmental report and process should be developed on how to
deal with the future of Ma1n street and the 1nevitable
conflicts between the commerc1.al uses and the residences. He
was not prepared to say that just because he does something
for one person he does 1.t for all. All the restaurants on
Main street are ind1.vidually s1.tuated. Some restaurants are
located closer to residences than others. Those that are
closer are g01.ng to have a tougher time than those that are
further away. The object is to minimize and reach some
reasonable accommodat1.on between the conflict between the
res1dents leg1.timate right to get some decent sleep and not be
unduly disturbed 1.n the enJoyment of his property and the
commercial bus1.nessman's r1.ght to make a decent prof1t and
enjoy as much benef1t of the State law as possible. He was
1nclined to approve th1.s appl1.cat1.on, to instruct the Director
of Development Services to immed1.ately start the process of
prepar1ng an Env1ronmental Impact analysis and development of
procedures for studY1.ng the cumulative effect of expanded
hours of all k1.nds of bus1.nesses on Main Street, ident1fy the
considerations wh1.ch 1.mpact the environment, rang1ng from
parking hours, inadequate police protection that deal with
badly behav1ng customers, trash p1.ckup noise, off-street
parking on res1dent1.al streets. What are the parameters to be
considered so this can be approached on a process approach
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rather than an emot1onal issue and popularity? He said "You
will never get any sense of fairness from anyone if you
basically Just start the rules up and 1nvent the rules for
each appl1cation. People should be able to know pretty much
from 100k1ng at our procedure, what you're gOlng to run up
again, what are the problems you've got to deal with and
address".
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commissioner orsini said the SeaSide Gr111 is within fifteen
feet of the closest resident1al structure. This is measured
lot to lot. Chairman Fife said his point was this issue would
not be resolved by a certa1n number of feet from a certain
structure but by the degree of disturbance caused. The
question is, how much of an 1mpact is the commercial operation
making on the res1dences? If 1t's 1ntolerable, the commercial
operation will have to adjust. It's a quest10n of being
neighborly in a congested enV1ronment. Comm1ssioner Orsini
said he felt Taco Surf restaurant would be the next
application for extended hours and asked what criteria would
be used to approve or deny that extens1on? Commissioner Sharp
indicated the Plann1ng Comm1ssion has always judged each
application in its own merits. commissioner orsini challenged
that statement, saY1ng he had heard Comm1ss1oner Sharp say the
Comnussion has approved slmilar 1tems 1n the past so why
aren't we approv1ng them now? And, that they should continue
to be approved until the ordinance is changed. Chairman Fife
said there will be other appl1cat1ons and right now there is
no process or procedure to 1dentify the potent1al cumulative
effect or to alert anyone on the operat1ng rules.
Commissioner orsini sa1d this bus1ness has only been open four
months --- probably the newest restaurant. Cha1rman Fife said
the current applicat10n 1S for the hours ABC approved, to
11:00 p.m. Cha1rman F1fe sa1d he would not have voted to
approve the request for 1:00 a.m. Commissioner Orsini said a
review of the Minutes would show one or two other applicants
were denied 11:00 p.m. closings. commissioner Dahlman said
during the last two years CUPs for ABC #41 licenses had their
hours set at 10:00 p.m. week-days and 11:00 p.m. week-ends as
a standard pract1ce. He disagreed strongly with commissioner
Sharp, saying th1S application should not be looked at in a
vacuum because that wouldn't be planning, 1t wouldn't be
looking at the cumulative 1mpacts. There must be a workable
plan that leads to order versus 1nequity. If one business is
open 15 hours and another bUS1ness is open 16 hours, that's a
6% increased opportunlty for volume. If the person with the
extra opportun1ty reduces h1S prices (because he has the extra
volume) he could put the other person out of business, and
this is an 1ssue of equlty. He added there should not be a
very d1fferent set of rules for a bus1ness with1n 15 feet of
a residence compared to a bus1ness 100 or 200 feet from a
residence. Comm1ss1oner Law asked 1f the City Council could
determine the open1ng and clos1ng hours. Comm1ssioner Dahlman
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recommended that a moratorlum be placed on this kind of
application until the EIR is done and also, to consider
whether elections are needed to set the closing hours. He
added the ldea to hold electlons should be deferred until a
later tlme. Chairman Flfe agreed on the moratorium idea,
saying that in the process of a particular application, the
Commission focuses on ldentifying a problem to a point where
they realize something more broad based must be done about
that problem. The best thing to do 1S put a stop on
everything untll the Commisslon figures out what it's going to
do. commissioner Dahlman said a moratorium is the city
Council's decision and the Commission should make a
recommendation. Mr. Colantuono said the choice is not between
a categorical exemptlon and an EIR. You can't determine an
EIR is needed untll an Initlal study is done. The choice is
between a categorical exemption and an Inltial study. He said
he would be very surprlsed if staff found an EIR was needed,
it costs many thousands of dollars to complete and takes about
six to twelve months to complete, when what was at stake is
one hour of use. Secondly, it should not be understood that
the Cl ty has not done plannlng. The Cl ty has a Land Use
Element adopted ln 1974 and amended periodically since. The
Cl ty has a zoning ordinance which addresses these issues.
These state a POllCY that uses such as this ought to be
conditionally permitted. Rather than having a standard set of
hours that are imposed by ordlnance on everyone, we require a
Conditional Use Process and do it on a case-by-case basis.
That mayor may not be good public POllCY and the Commission
mayor may not agree with It. It's the Commission's
responsibility to declde this case and cases like it and to
advise the City Councll lf you think the rules need changing.
Chairman Fife said he dld not see anything wrong with
approachlng thlS applicatlon under the CUP process but th1nks
the Commisslon needs to identlfy the factors that need to go
1nto the analysls, how they should be weighted, compared off
aga1nst each other, better than the Commission has. Adding,
"Homeowners should not feel that they dare not miss a meeting
of the Plannlng Commission or something disastrous might
happen. They should be confident that we have a set of
principles and we're applying them to every appllcant". Mr.
Colantuono sald the municipal Code standards for reviewing
CUPs are legally adequate but leaves a lot of discretion. If
it's consistent with the General Plan and the Commisslon can
f1nd that neighborhood lncompatlbilities are addressed in the
CUP process, the Commisslon can grant the permlt. The
Plann1ng commission lS withln the law to say that, as a body
working together wlth the communlty, it wants to develop
clearer, more preclse standards to gUlde the exercise of the
Commisslon's discretion, as long as the Commlssion stays
within the broad parameters of the CUP process as 1t'S written
in the Cl ty' s zoning ordinance. Chairman Fife sa1d the
Commission has no mechanism to address the cumulative issue.
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MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by to recommend to the
City council regarding the preparation of an Initial Study and
any following environmental documents that would be
appropriate.
MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
***
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by orsini to recommend denial of
Conditional Use Permit #92-2, a request to extend its
operating hours to 11:00 p.m. daily.
MOTION FAILS:
AYES:
NOES:
2 - 0 - 3
Dahlman, Orsini
Fife, Sharp, Law
***
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to approve Conditional Use
Permit #92-2, through the adoption of Resolution No. 92-30, a
request to extend the operating hours of SeaSide Grill to
11:00 p.m. daily. And imposition of a condition that the last
call for ordering of alcohol be not later than ten minutes
before closing (10:50 p.m.) and that food be served up to at
least one-half hour before closing (10:30 p.m.) and that all
patrons be out of the restaurant one-half hour after closing
time (11:30 p.m.).
Commissioner orslni asked, before the vote, lf the applicant
allows patrons to remain in the SeaSide Grill past 11:30 p.m.
CUP #92-2 be revoked? Director Whittenberg said to revoke a
CUP a PubllC Hearlng must be held, with a Notice.
Commissioner OrSlnl asked if a fine could be imposed? Mr.
Colantuono sald a condition could be imposed on the permit
stating that closing at 11:00 p.m. means no patrons are to be
in the premises at 11:01 p.m. Then he would be in violation
of the CUP. Chairman Flfe sald that lt's up to Commissioner
Sharp to deClde if this will become part of his motion but he
would not support such a motion. Commissloner Sharp said he
would support an addi tlonal condi tlon belng placed to the
effect the applicant not take any serVlce of food after 10:30
p.m. If a person has a drink ln front of hlm at 11:00 p.m. he
would be allowed to flnish it.
Chairman Fife said he would support a motlon that included a
requirement that last call for ordering of alcohol be not
later than ten minutes before closing (10:50 p.m.) and that
food be served up to least one-half hour before closing (10:30
p.m.) and that all patrons be out of the restaurant one-half
hour after closing time (11:30 p.m.). CommlSSloner Sharp said
he would include that verbiage ln hlS Motion.
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MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
3 - 0 - 2
Sharp, Law, Fife
Dahlman, Orsini
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Comments were made by Mltzie Morton which were not on audio
tape. She commented that the applicant has already violated
the ABC's conditions. Chairman Fife commented that the
Planning Commisslon cannot overrlde the ABC. If the applicant
violates the ABC's rules he has big problems of his own
making. He suggested Ms. Morton send her proof to ABC for
their consideration.
Commissioner Dahlman said facts were been presented at a
previous Planning Commission meeting that this applicant was
in violatlon of his CUP up until now. "I don't understand how
you would even consider extending hlS hours". Chairman Fife
said the reason he would conslder lt lS the ABC has not made
a finding to that effect. When they make a flndlng they've
got a problem. CommlSSloner OrSlnl said "It's easy to extend
when you don't llve by It''. Commlssioner Flfe sald "I cut an
exception for the fact that this is a restaurant and I expect
it to continue to operate as a restaurant and not as a
restaurant tlll 9:00 p.m. and a bar from thereon. So I want
food potentially orderable up untll 10:30 p.m. That's enough
time for them to prepare the order, serve the customer and the
customer stlll be out of there by 11:30 p.m.".
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Fife for the Planning Commission
to request the City Council consideration for staff
preparation of an Initial Study regarding intensification of
land uses along the Main Street commercial corridor between
Pacific Coast Highway and the ocean and to consider the
establishment of a moratorium for intensification of uses on
that same study area during the period of time of the
preparation and consideration of the Initial Study.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Dahlman, Fife, orsini, Law, Sharp
Chairman Fife stated appeal rights, lndicatlng any decision of
the Plannlng Commlssion lS appealable, by any interested
person, to the City Councll.
Davld Rosenmann * Seal Beach
Mr. Rosenmann asked the motlon include the cumulative impact
of these decislons. Mr. Colantuono said the Inltial Study
would address that point.
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9.
Conditional Use
operation:
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Request:
Resolution:
Permit #92-13
Restaurant Papillon
143 Main street
Nader Tahvildari
Dorothy Nescher
Entertainment permit.
#92-48
staff Report
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Director Whittenberg asked the Planning commission if he
should present the staff report or wait for the results of the
possible morator1um and Initial study? Commissioner Sharp
asked if the Comm1SS1on could hold th1S applicatlon since it
was already subm1 tted before the Comm1ss1on' s declsion on
SeaSide Grill? Mr. Wh1 ttenberg said th1S matter could be
tabled with the understanding that provisions of the Permit
Streaml1n1ng Act Wh1Ch apply to the appl1cation. There 1S SlX
(6) month window in which the City needs to make a
determinat10n on the application unless an extension is
granted by the applicant. If no decision 1S made in that SlX
months the applicat10n is automat1cally approved. The
Commission could re-agendize this appl1cation at some time
prior to the SlX months exp1ration date and make a decision to
approve/deny at that p01nt. The Commiss1on has the rlght to
seek the applicant's opin1on but the ultimate dec1sion is up
the the Planning Comm1SS1on.
Mr. Tahvildari sa1d he wished to go forward because it could
not be determ1ned how long it would take to do the Initial
Study etc.
Mr. curtis presented the staff report. [Staff report on f1le
in the Planning Department]. The applicant, Nader Tahvildari,
requested the establishment of an entertainment cafe at an
eX1sting restaurant, Pap1llon' s. The appl1cant wants to
provide a slngle, non-ampl1f1ed musician. This will be either
a p1anist, v1olin1st or harp1st during the even1ng hours.
For the Record, Mr. curtis presented letters from the
applicant explain1ng his views, a letter in opposition from
Georgiana Brown, a note from Mrs. Ross McGuire 1n favor of
this request. Also, the Commission has been provided a
petition w1th approximately 401 slgnatures in favor of the
application by the applicant.
Commission Comments
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Comm1ss1oner orsini asked Mr. Colantuono if the entertalnment
privileges could be revoked at any time according to the
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cond1tion 1n the staff report? Cha1rman F1fe sa1d it would be
pursuant to a Noticed Public Hear1ng.
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Mr. Colantuono sa1d there are two issues. One, you must give
due process to the applicant before you deny a property right.
Second, 1f the Comm1ssion chooses to revoke entertainment
privileges in the absence of a violation the City would have
to demonstrate the applicant had not made any significant
investment in terms of putting 1n a sound system, building a
stage. When people invest and spend money in reasonable
reliance on a permit they have a vested property right. A
vested property r1ght constra1ns d1scretion more than an
ordinary perm1 t. If 1 t' s the Commission's intention to
reserve the power to revoke enterta1nment pr1vileges at any
time, whether or not there's a violation of the cond1tions,
it's useful to put that ln the conditions because it puts the
applicant on notice that lt's not reasonable for him to make
serious flnancial lnvestments. Secondly, if the Commission
interprets the condition to require a v1olation, there's still
a Notice function, remlnding h1m that he and h1S employees do
have to comply with thlS permit. As soon as you make a
finding, unless you alter that condit1on at the Public
Hearing, it tells the applicant in advance what the C1ty
intends its penalt1es to be. He sa1d "But you won't be bound
by them. You could revoke the permit for a vlolation if you
chose". As soon as the City shows an applicant has violated
the terms of his permlt, the City can revoke the permit at
that time.
Commiss1oner Dahlman said the key to enforcement is to have a
coherent policy that's the same for everyone.
Commissioner orsini said there is entertainment every
Wednesday night at Hennessey's; lt'S advert1sed as Keroki in
the newspaper. He sald his fear is control and enforcement of
the entertainment.
Public Hearing
Chairman Fife opened the Public Hearing.
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Barbara Tahvlldarl * 143 Maln st., PaP1llon's, Seal Beach
Mrs. Tahvildari introduced herself as the owner of Papillon's
restaurant. She stated their proposal is in the best
interests of the cltizens of Seal Beach. Approval of CUP #92-
13 would allow Paplllon's to make a last1ng cultural
contributlon to the community. She said the music wlll not be
loud, it will be soft and a low declbel level. It will be
classical music WhlCh 1S soothing. She felt the staff report
conditions of approval are satisfactory. Addressing possible
concerns to entertainment, Ms. Tahvildari sa1d she has been in
business in Seal Beach for 10~ years, 3~ at 143 Main Street.
She has established a respectable reputation. Papillon's is
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an upscale restaurant and she has respectable Seal Beach
patrons. The1r park1ng is an adjacent parking lot which is
shared w1th John's Food King market; the market closes at 8:00
p.m. Past exper1ences wlth entertainment were not good
experiences but the enterta1nment she is requesting should not
be condemned before its presented.
Chairman F1fe asked 1f she was planning to build a stage? She
said no. The entertainment will be in the middle of the
restaurant to be suitable to both restaurant and bar sections.
commissioner orsini asked if the 11:00 p.m. closing time was
alright? Mrs. Tahvildari said she would prefer 11:30 p.m. but
was willing to compromise.
Chairman Flfe asked 1f she would be agreeable to 11:00 p.m.
closing to begin wlth and poss1bly changing 1t to 11:30 p.m.
on the first rev1ew? Mrs. Tahvildar1 said that would be
excellent.
commissioner Dahlman said the Clty 1S trying to come up with
an enterta1nment police. Mrs. Tahvlldari said she understood
that. He suggested there may be a policy change between this
time and her reV1ew perlods.
Walter Babcock * Walt's Wharf, 201 Ma1n st., Seal Beach
Mr. Babcock reminded the Commission that e1ght years ago the
CUP processes worked. A permit at Walt's Wharf was revoked
for non-compliance. He favored approval of this application.
Tom Charara * Presldent. Seal Beach Businessmen's Assoc.
Mr. Charara urged approval of this applicat1on. He said this
form of entertainment w1ll enhance the community and a pianist
would be wonderful on Ma1n Street as opposed to any other form
of entertainment. He favored approval.
John Baker * (No address qivenl
Mr. Baker urged approval of the enterta1nment.
many people about entertainment at Papillon's and
a piano or harplst would be good.
He spoke to
they thought
Ron Sesler * SeaSide Gr1ll, Maln Street, Seal Beach
Mr. Sesler urged approval. He said the owners are hard
workers and the entertainment w1ll be welcome addltion to Seal
Beach. He thought the patrons should be allowed to sing
around a piano bar and felt w1thout a microphone it wouldn't
get out of control.
Sol John * 330 12th st., Seal Beach
Mr. John sald he would like to see the city get together. He
felt the ABC hours of 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. would be alr1ght.
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lilt would be llke the old days ... let them dance ... we've
got a nice town here ... let them have good times".
Nader Tahvildari * 143 Maln st.. Seal Beach
Mr. Tahvlldarl sald he would like permission to answer
questions durlng the opposlng comments. Chalrman Fife said he
couldn't do that, that isn't the procedure the Commission
follows. It would be best to make notes for the rebuttal
time.
David Rosenmann * Seal Beach rNo address qiven)
Mr. Rosenmann said the City heard the Renaissance Cafe
application. At that Public Hearing the need for an
entertainment ordlnance was self-evident. It lS premature and
inappropriate to do anythlng now. He felt the budget crisis
the Clty Manager dldn't get the new ZTA to the Commission.
Also, the City's enforcement II ... lsn't worth the paper it's
written on, lt has never worked, lt won't work ...". This is
an intenslflcation of use and the Clty is still lacking an EIR
and the Clty's deflclent under CEQA.
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Gordon Shanks * 215 Surf. Seal Beach
Mr. Shanks urged the Commisslon to wai t until the
entertainment ordlnance is finalized. Addresslng the
community's anxiety on entertalnment, he said this application
was presented as a piano or a vlolin in a first class
continental restaurant being played durlng dinner hours.
Everyone would like this. Then one speaker testifies and in
his mind it's a plano bar. If you're not clear there could be
problems.
Gail Olsen * 707 Central Avenue, Seal Beach
Mrs. Olsen spoke in opposition and sald her main concern is
the cumulative impacts on the town. All the other
establishments will want entertainment. They will feel this
is going to enhance their business and bring people into Seal
Beach. She llves beyond the 300' Notice boundaries but the
patrons of Paplllon's and Walt's Wharf park in front of their
house conslstently. Even with double paned glass they still
get the nOlse of the cars and the people talking. Her tenants
are her buslness and she may have trouble keeping her tenants.
She urged the Commlsslon to look at the long term effects.
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Commissioner Dahlman asked CommlSSloner Sharp for his thoughts
on this testimony because he had remarked you cannot approve
one application in the context of the next several
applications. Who's right? CommlSSloner Sharp said he would
reply but not durlng the PubllC Hearlng. Chairman Fife
commented that he plans to consider the cumulative impacts of
all declslons regarding modlfications of use on Main street
and that's what he wants the Initial Study to address.
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Dianne Waqner * 210 4th street, Seal Beach
Ms. Wagner spoke in favor of thlS applicatlon, saying she gets
home at 7:00 p.m. after a long commute from Los Angeles and
likes to eat out. She feels the entertainment would be a true
asset.
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Mitzie Morton * Seal Beach
Mrs. Morton spoke in opposition to this entertainment
application. She stated she likes Papillon's and the
Tahvildari's and she was troubled by having to speak out
against entertainment. She stated background music for dining
would be lovely but, historically, an application is presented
one way during its inception and as time goes on it becomes
something else, usually worse. She asked Mr. Whittenberg
asked if this was advertlsed as a Public Hearing? Mr.
Whittenberg explained the City send all the Public Notices to
the Seal Beach Journal but the Journal did not publish them
for the Agenda. The munlclpal Code does not requlre
publicatlon of Notlces for CUPs in the paper. All of the
Public Hearlngs for thlS meeting were posted at three
locations ln the City WhlCh lS an alternate to publicatlon in
the newspaper. Publlcatlon in a newspaper are only required
for Zone Changes, Specific Plans, General Plan amendments and
Zone Text Amendments. The SeaSlde Grill's Notice was
publlshed in the Journal because lt was carried forward from
a previous meeting and was, ln fact, lncorrectly publlshed.
Mrs. Morton sald ABC placed condltions on Mr. Tahvildari's
application and said there will be no entertainment. She
noted Old Town is a high crime area with 60% of all crimes and
arrests for 1991 belng in Old Town. There were 1,138 reported
crimes and arrests in Old Town versus 891 throughout the rest
of the Clty. Paplllon's has piped in mUS1C which is
enjoyable. She noted Mr. Tahvildarl moved Papillon's bar from
the rear of the restaurant to the front of the restaurant
without Plannlng CommlSSlon review. She said this has brought
in more bar buslness, it brought ln more bar business and
helped him compete with Walt's Wharf and Hennessey's. There's
no objection to that but now he wants entertainment for this
area. The residents fear Hennessey's and others will ask for
entertainment and which could become a 1:00 a.m. entertalnment
center on Maln Street -- thls would be a nlghtmare for close
by resldents. She requested the commission deny this request
without preJudice. She urged getting the entertainment
ordinance ln place.
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commissioner OrSlnl replied to Ms. Morton's comments about the
"no entertainment" restriction by ABC. He said at the time of
application, the Tahvlldarl's probably did not plan to put
entertainment In. You can't apply for entertainment on an ABC
license if your CUP doesn't speclfy entertainment. If you say
you're not putting in entertalnment then it goes on your
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license as a restrlctlon. It doesn't mean you can't have
entertainment ln the future.
Commissioner Dahlman asked Mr. Whittenberg about the ABC
process. Mr. Whittenberg agreed with Commlssioner Orsini's
comments.
Commissioner Sharp sald the letter from Grace Community Church
is next door to Paplllon' s but the letter complalns about
SeaSide Grill down the street.
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Gerrv Kvle * Seal Beach [No address qivenl
Mr. Kyle spoke in oppositlon. He sald Mr. Tahvildari is a
responsible and considerate buslnessman, not an absentee
businessman. He has no complalnts against Papillon's and has
not seen drunks come out of the restaurant. But entertainment
is openlng up old wounds ln this town. ThlS lS a test case
because Mr. Tahvlldari "... lS probably the cleanest on the
street" but the people who follow may not come up to his
standards. He asked who was gOlng to enforce the conditions?
After listenlng to the publlC testimony he said he got the
impression there was a conflict between the businessmen and
the resldents; this lS a bad lmpression and not true. He felt
the Seal Beach Buslnessman' s Assoclation should not "... rally
'round bad apples", they should stand up and point a finger.
He objected to the abusive tones used toward the Planning
Commissioners. He urged no entertainment at all.
Brent Matthews, Seal Beach [No address qlVenJ
Mr. Matthews spoke ln Opposltlon, saying the Planning
Commission should perform due dillgence on intensification of
use for entertainment perml ts. The Commission has the
obligatlon to work through the ZTA first. Seal Beach has a
history of incremental intensity. He urged denial.
Commissioner Dahlman asked Mr. Matthews to summarize what the
ZTA should say. He replied "We have to work through it".
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REBUTTAL: Nader Tahvlldari
Mr. Tahvildari sald Mr. Rosenmann referred to an
"entertainment cafe". The terminology ln hlS application was
not "cafe". "Cafe" was placed in the staff report by Mr.
curtis. Regardlng the enforcement, he has done this legally,
by applying for a permlt. He will not ruin the lntegrity of
his bUSlness by dOlng something to need enforcement. He sald
he was agalnst rock In roll and jazz music - he wants qUlet,
nice claSSlcal music. He said there would not be a difference
between the plped mUS1C he plays now and a slngle lnstrument,
he would not dlsturb Mr. Kyle. He measured from the back door
of his restaurant to the flrst residence lS 168'. He asked
why a piano would make a person drink more or less? His
application dld not say a piano 100% -- he would have a single
instrument -- a plano, a guitar, a harp or a violln. He will
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not have a bar around the plano. He would place the piano in
the middle of the dlnlng room.
commissioner Orsinl asked what flve days he would like? Mr.
Tahvlldarl sald he would like to have seven days but he is not
planning to. Maybe he would do it for four days.
Commissioner orsini sald lt would be best to ask for seven
days.
Commissioner OrSlnl said nobody is worried about the
entertainment, they are worried about enforcement. If it is
going to be a piano bar then say it's a piano bar; the
residents are panicky that things aren't specified. "When you
apply for things on egg shells a lot of things don't come out
the way they should be. And this is what panics residents".
.
Mr. Tahvildarl said he will do the best he can to control the
piano, the piano player and the guests singing. He felt he
couldn't control the guests singing. commissioner Dahlman
said some of the provisions would be hard to enforce. The
ordinance the City lS trying to develop could mean the
enforcement could get eaSler for the City to perform -- an
officer of the Clty could walk ln and wrlte you a ticket.
commissioner Dahlman said he could only support this if Mr.
Tahvildari would agree to ablde by whatever the upcoming
entertalnment ordinance provldes for.
Mr. Colantuono sald this is a CUP process, different sites
raise different issues. A glven use may be appropriate in one
location and not for another.
.
commissioner Dahlman asked Mr. Colantuono what was going on?
He sald SeaSide Grill admlttedly vlolated conditions of
approval and yet the Commisslon approved an extension of
hours. Mr. Whlttenberg said two separate issues are being
discussed: (1) the capability of the Planning Commission/city
Councll to determlne whether to approve slmllar requests on
dissimilar properties. Papillon's is a unique use because it
doesn't have residentlal propertles backing to it. That
allows the Commission to make special flndlngsi (2) regarding
violatlons of ABC condltions not lmposed by the City, the City
does not have the authorlty to automatlcally deny a request
for a vlolation of ABC's conditions. ABC must investigate
their violatlons and take action. Commissloner Dahlman
disagreed saYlng "I disagree. Those were our own rules in our
own CUP that he was alleged to have violated and that he later
admitted dOlng. OK. And yet three people on this Commission
ignored thlS and granted hlS hour. I'm saYlng, relying on us
to make findings that somebody's in vlolation and then take
action doesn't work I do have trouble giving one
restaurant entertalnment and saYlng lt's very dlfferent and
all the other restaurants can't have It. What we really don't
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want is entertainment ln this town but we're going to give it
to one guy because he's a nice guy". Mr. Whlttenberg said the
Commission must declde on whether thlS application will impact
the nelghborhood and lf conditions wlll mitigate those
impacts. If they can't do that they should deny the
application.
commissioner Orsini asked Mr. Colantuono what the review
periods could be? Mr. Colantuono said staff will review, via
a Noticed PubllC Hearlng, this application at 4, 12 and 24
months to determine the appllcant' s performance under the
standards of his permit.
Mr. Colantuono suggested the following language to make this
issue very clear:
"No entertalnment calculated to encourage slnglng by
patrons."
"The Cornmlsslon reserves the right to revoke
entertalnment prlvlleges at any time pursuant to a
Noticed Public Hearlng, even ln the absence of a
vlolation of these condltlons if the Commission deems
such privileges lncompatible wlth the neighborhood".
Chairman Flfe suggested three addltional conditions:
1. That this CUP shall be subject to the City's
ul timate action on Zoning Text Amendment #92-2.
And lts condltlonal grant shall establish no
exemptlon for thlS establishment from the adoption
of a general ordinance governing the establishment
and malntalnlng of entertainment cafes.
2. The applicant would slgn and return to the Clty his
acceptance of these conditions and satisfactory
written evidence that the operation of the CUP does
not violate any conditions of hlS ABC license.
3. Entertalnment shall begin no earller than 7:00 p.m.
and shall end no later than 11:00 p.m.
Commlssioner Orsini repeated that he was trying to cover every
possibility. Mr. Tahvildari sald he was not planning to
entertain during the brunch. Chairman Fife said he was
inclined to approve this on a less-expansive basis than a
maximum basis so the CommlSSlon may look at lt ln four months
and see if It's generating a problem at thlS level?
Commissioner Sharp questioned exactly how many days he would
have entertalnment. The Commission agreed to permit
entertainment seven (7) days per week. Mr. Tahvildari said he
didn't know if he could afford to have an entertainer play
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seven days a week. He sald he had a problem with the
condition about slnglng patrons. The Commission said the
wording has been changed on thlS. Mr. Tahvildari said on New
Year's Eve he would like to have more than one instrument.
Chairman Flfe sald he would have to get a special one-day
permit for this special event(s). Chairman Fife asked Mr.
Tahvildari if he fully understood that if the upcoming ZTA
says "no entertalnment" that he wlII have to cease entirely
all entertalnment at Paplllon. Mr. Tahvildarl asked about
Spaghettini's. Chairman Flfe sald there has been a historical
conflict of entertainment on Main street and that separates
Main street entertalnment from Spaghettini's and Noel's. Mr.
Tahvildari sald we can't hold grudges for a long time.
Chairman Fife sald he wants to know how the ZTA will turn out
and he doesn't want the "grandfatherlng" process to start
again.
Chairman Flfe asked to have the conditlon added that there
will be no dancing.
Chairman Flfe closed the Public Hearlng.
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MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Fife to approve Conditional Use
Permit #92-13, through the adoption of Resolution #92-48, to
allow entertainment at Papillon's restaurant with the
following conditions added:
1.
No enterta1nment shall
calculated to encourage
patrons.
be provided which is
singing or dancing by
2. The Commission reserves the right to revoke
enterta1nment privileges at any time pursuant to a
Noticed Public Hearing, even in the absence of a
violation of these conditions if the commission
deems such privileges incompatible with the
neighborhood.
3. That this CUP shall be subject to the city's
ultimate action on Zoning Text Amendment #92-2.
And its conditional grant shall establish no
exemption for this establishment from the adoption
of a general ordinance governing the establishment
and mainta1ning of entertainment cafes.
4. The applicant would sign and return to the City his
acceptance of these conditions and satisfactory
written evidence that the operation of the CUP does
not violate any conditions of his ABC license.
5.
Entertainment shall begin no earlier than 7:00 p.m.
and shall end no later than 11:00 p.m.
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commissioner Sharp w1shed to comment before the vote. He said
if this restaurant had houses 1n back of it he wouldn't vote
for it. It has a church in back of 1t and a parking lot next
to it. "Because of the fact that at some later date he may
want to expand hlS tlme, I feel we ought to grant it for seven
days from 7:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. with the restrlctions that
have been put on lt by the other members when the motion was
made" .
commissioner orsini sald he was looking at the type of
operation the restaurant 1S. "If 1t was any other restaurant
I don't see where th1S piano bar would fit into the
atmosphere. The atmosphere definitely can hold the piano
bar". It also has a nice clientele. The restaurant is open
two hours after the enterta1nment ends. "The piano bar --- I
want to make sure that 1S all r1ght because It's going to end
up a piano bar ... if somebody has a problem with it state it
now because I don't". The reV1ews w1ll be at 4, 12, and 24
months with no prejudlce to spec1ally Noticed reV1ews at other
times lf a problem develops. The hours of operation are
remaining the same. He d1dn' t see that entertalnment at
brunch would be a problem.
.
Mr. Whlttenberg clarlf1ed that the recommended review periods
will start from the t1me the entertainment actually beings,
not from the time the Comm1ssion approves this CUP.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5 - 0 - 0
Fife, Dahlman, orsini, Law, Sharp
Mr. Whittenberg sald staff wlll prepare a formal resolution
for Commisslon approval on November 18, 1992.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mltch Gravson * 140 Coastline, Seal Beach - said he perceived a
declaratlon of war by the llquor interests and elements of the
Business Assoclation aga1nst the c1t1zens and was angry. They have
clearly shown they have no 1nterest 1n the business of this City
and are trying to draw from outs1de. He cautloned the community
might be less supportive of the bus1ness community. He asked the
Commission to steel themselves for the com1ng onslaught. The City
Attorney should be asked what can be expected 1n coming litigation.
He is head of subrogat1on for the County of Los Angeles.
Chalrman Fife said the equal protection princlpal does require
equality of treatment but does not prevent leglslatlve bodles from
making distlnctions based on ratlonal facts and differences. It
will be the CommlSSlon's duty, ln sltuations where they deny or
further condltlon approvals, to eluc1date what those facts are that
. are found unlque to justify their pos1tion.
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commissioner orsini sa~d he thought if the Businessmen's
Association pressured the other Main street stores to stay open
later it would take pressure off the liquor selling establishments.
You see businesses closed at 6: 00 p. m. and nothing but liquor
stores open late. The restaurants and bars are open six to seven
hours after the other bus~nesses are closed.
Mona Babcock * Walt's Wharf. Seal Beach - said there is a need for
a Main street rev~ew and she was sad about the friction and
continuing grudges. The City needs the revenue from Main street.
She said Walt's Wharf will not want entertainment.
Dave Rosenmann * Seal Beach - said he had consulted with legal
colleagues with the State Attorney General's environmental unit.
If a viable plan is not established the City will be suit prone.
Mitzie Morton * Seal Beach - said the hour on SeaSide Grill
actually got extended one and one-half (1~) hours. Commissioner
orsini agreed. Staff said alcohol cannot be consumed after 11:00
p.m.; this is an ABC rule.
Tom Charara * Seal Beach Bus~nessman's Association - Said there is
no perce~ved fr~ction between the merchants and the residents and
invited all interested people to come to the Seal Beach
Businessmen's meetings. They are monthly on the second Thursday of
the month at 7:30 a.m. in a Main Street restaurant.
STAFF CONCERNS
There were no staff concerns.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
There were no Commission concerns.
ADJOURNMENT
Comm~ssioner F~fe adjourned the meeting at 2:00 a.m.
Sincerely,
C;o~
Joan Fillmann
Recording Secretary
The Planning ~mmission Minutes of November 4, 1992 were approved
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MAIN STREET BUSINESSES
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TOP 10 SALES TAX PRODUCERS
FY 1991-92
By Amount of Sales
Flrm Name Buslness Address
Walt's Wharf 201 Mam Street
Hennesseys Tavern 140 Mam Street
Bay Hardware 215 Mam Street
Taco Surf 115 Mam Street
Chevron ServIce 350 MaIn Street
Seal Beach Shell 347 Mam Street
. John's Food Kmg 148 Mam Street
Comer Drug Store 302 MalO Street
Char 0 Chicken 333 Mam Street
Old Town Cafe 137 MalO Street
Generated 57.51 % of Total Main Street Sales Tax Revenues,
93 Active Businesses
SOURCE' HmderlIter, De Llamas and AssocIates
. C IWP51\MAINST TAXIFY91-92 TOTILW\10-30-92
MAIN STREET BUSINESSES
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TOP 10 SALES TAX PRODUCERS
FY 1992-93, 1st Quarter
By Amount of Sales
Flrm Name
Buslness Address
Walt's Wharf
201 Mam Street
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Hennesseys Tavern 140 MalO Street
Seal Beach Shell 347 MalO Street
Bay Hardware 215 MalO Street
Chevron ServIce 350 MalO Street
Taco Surf 115 MalO Street
John's Food KlOg 148 MalO Street
SunshlOe Sportswear 124 MalO Street
Char 0 ChIcken 333 MalO Street
Corner Drug Store 302 MalO Street
Generated 61.86% of Total Main Street Sales Tax Revenues,
93 Active Businesses
SOURCE' HmderlIter, De Llamas and AssocIates
. C IWP51\MAINST TAXIFY92-93 lSTlLW\10-30-92
CIty of Seal Beach Plannmg CommIssIOn
SUBMITTED FOR RECORD
8,_ G. Brown _Oat; 10-27-92 /Jvf
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Planning Commission
City of ~eal Beach
211 Eighth Street
Seal Beach, CA 90740
Dear Chairman Fife:
I t<lill be ouit: of the country at the deferred public hearing on the
Seaside ~rill request to extend its hours from 7 A.M. to 1 A.M. and
aJll submitting this letter to be read at the November meeting.
Like a large number of Seal Beach citizens I feel the proliferation
and extension of hours of drinki..n8 establlshments ifl a concentrated
area of the city is des1:royinf; the fiction of "quaint village a"brosphere".
<:'0 often touted by business elements their concerted actions T..;rould
destroy the ambi..ence that they say is the essence of our town.
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He already ltave ~:ticen5erj twice as many on-sale liquor licenses in
the area as the standard of the .AJ.coholj c Beverage Control. These
bars "masqueradi..ng" as restaurants consistently foJlow a creeping in-
crement of hours of alcoholic beverage servlce with the theme of "some-
one else has longer hours". Our neighOOr, Belmont Shore, has found
the conditions so intole~nble for nearby residents that the ci1:)T is
not issui ng any rrore liquor pemi.ts fot' new establish"1lents. They can
not do anything about permits already jssued as Seal Beach can't either,
but we have never considered a moratorium.
The requirement of "restaurants" llquor J.licenses that food sales equal
those of alcohollC beverages sales has never been enforced on the re-
quired records kept or reviewed. Extension of hours wou ld only mean
a greater dlSpar'lty in the balance between food and alcoholic beverage
sales.
I urge the cOrnmlssion's rejection of this request for extension of
hours by the Seaside GriJl.
Sincerely,
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212 14th Street
Seal Reach, CA 90740
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138 Eighth Street 0 Seal Beach, California
City of Seal Beach Planning CommlSSI(
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90740 0 (213) 596-1605
November 4, 1992
Plannlng Commlsslon
Clty of Seal Beach
To Whom It May Concern.
We regret that we must express our Opposltlon to extended hours
for servlng llquor at the SeaSlde Grlll, 101 Maln St.
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We have had prlor hlghly-negatlve experlences wlth nearby llquor
establlshments. These lnclude flghts on our property and raucous
behavlor at a tlme when our faclllty was belng used by chlldren.
Our property backs up to the alley behlnd these establlshments
west of Maln St. We have to contend wlth lltter and lOlterlng.
People who may work at the church late are concerned about
safety.
Thank you for conslderlng our concerns
Slncerely,
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Donald P. Shoemaker
Senlor Pastor
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MEMORANDUM O~ PHON CON
November 4, 1992
To:
Honorable Chairman and Planning Commissioners
From:
David Gaylord, 309 17th street, Seal Beach
Scott Johnson, 1834 Flagstaff ct., Navy Housing
Eddy Lidoff, 405 Crystal Cove, Seal Beach
Re:
SUPPORT OF SEASIDE GRILL
Mr. Gaylord telephoned the Planning Department at 3:50 p.m. today
to state he is in favor of the SeaSide Grill's application for
extended hours. He said he raised his family at 309 17th Street,
behind the former Rum Runner restaurant. Rum Runner's had a few
drunken patrons and a few beer bottles left around. But he always
felt the Main Street establishments were family establishments and
still are.
Mr. Johnson called at 3:55 p.m. today and said he felt we have
enough government and don't need any more.
Mr. Lidoff called at 4:15 p.m. today to say he thinks the economy
is on a downward turn and we need extra tax monies. The City
should allow SeaSide Grill to pursue a living without offending
others and that's what they are doing.
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Planning Department
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November 1, 1992
City of Seal Beach
211 Eighth street
Seal Beach, CA 90740-6379
To Planning Comm1ssion of Seal Beach:
I am writ1ng 1n regard to the request that has been made by a
Shell serV1ce stat10n to extend the hours they are open.
The station 1S located at 347 Ma1n Street, and is just across the
alley from my property at 332 E1ghth Street. I am concerned that
the extended hours would lower the rental value of this property,
and would enlarge the potent1al for crime. It would also be a
late n1ght disturbance for my renters and others living in the
4It ne1ghborhood. Wouldn't 1t also require more police attent1on?
I would appreciate a no vote on conditional use perm1t
92-17. Thank you for your t1me and consideration.
Slncerely yours,
A:J~/'~A
Donald E. Pasch
7046 34th. Street
North Highlands, CA
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