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CITY OF SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
. MINUTES of SEPTEMBER 21, 1994
The City of Seal Beach Planning Commission met in regular session at 7:32 p.m. with Chairman
Dahlman calling the meeting to order with the salute to the flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Dahlman
Commissioners Campbell, Sharp, Law, Brown
Department of Deve16pment Services
Lee Whittenberg, Director
Barry Curtis, Administrative Assistant
Joan Fillmann, Executive Secretary
Craig Steele, Assistant City Attorney
Also
Present:
AGENDA APPROVAL
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Staff requested Item #5, Plan Review 94-6, be moved to the Consent Calendar as Item #4. Staff
stated Minor Plan Reviews are Consent Calendar items, not Public Hearing items, and this was
not advertised as a Public Hearing.
Chairman Dahlman requested Item #1, the Minutes of September 7, 1994, and Item #3,
Resolution No. 94-40, be removed for discussion.
Bruce Stark, Seal Beach resident, requested Item #4, Plan Review 94-6, be removed for
discussion.
MOTION by Brown; SECOND by Campbell to approve the Agenda with the Agenda move
and three extractions as noted.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
5-0-0
Brown, Campbell, Dahlman, Law, Sharp
None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no oral communications from the audience.
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. CONSENT CALENDAR
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MOTION by Brown; SECOND by Law to approve the Consent Calendar:
2. Receive and File: Staff Report/Housing Element Revisions - Status Update
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
5-0-0
Brown, Campbell, Dahlman, Law, Sharp
None
The following items, extracted from the Consent Calendar, were discussed by the Planning
Commission.
1. Approve Minutes of September 7, 1994.
Chairman Dahlman suggested deleting the last sentence of the last paragraph as it is redundant.
Staff agreed.
3.
Approve Resolution Number 94-40 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION DENYING WITHOUT PREJUDICE VARIANCE 94-6, A
REQUEST TO VARY FROM THE COMMERCIAL PARKING
REQUIREMENTS TO ESTABLISH A HAIR SALON WITHIN AN
EXISTING RETAIL SPACE LOCATED AT 225 MAIN STREET
Chairman Dahlman corrected a typographical error at page 3, paragraph 5(a), noting the word
"is" should be changed to "in".
Chairman Dahlman asked Mr. Steele how the vote would have been recorded if this matter had
not been extracted from the Consent Calendar, and assuming the Consent Calendar was ratified
5 - 01 Mr. Steele explained if the Consent Calendar was ratified 5 - 0, then the vote to adopt
the resolution would have been 5 - 0, unless one of the Commissioners wanted to extract and
change the vote.
MOTION by Brown, SECOND by Law to approve Resolution No. 94-40.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
5-0-0
Brown, Law, Dahlman, Sharp, Campbell
None
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Plan Review #94~6
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
209 17th Street
Donald L. Cox
Ane Slocum Cahill
Staff Report
Mr. Curtis presented the staff report. [Staff report on file in the Planning Department]. The
applicant, Donald Cox for Ane Slocum Cahill, requested approval to convert a duplex at 209
17th Street to a single family residence and to add an interior staircase. Mr. Curtis said the
Planning Commission could consider Condition of Approval #3 and determine if rear yard
parking should be required or not.
Commission Comments on Staff Report
Commissioner Brown asked staff how this Plan Review could be on the Consent Calendar if
there's a decision to be made on the Conditions of Approval? Mr. Whittenberg explained Plan
Reviews need to appear on the Consent Calendar because that's the type of item it is. The issue
would have been extracted by staff had the Commission or public not requested its extraction.
For the Record, Ms. Fillmann said three letters regarding this application were received at
tonight's meeting. They are from Tom and Linda Chow of 1611 Electric Avenue, Frank and
Teresa Gonazlez of 212 17th Street, John Gallager and Samantha Lehan of 301 15th Street.
Commissioner Campbell asked if the letters discussed parking? Ms. FiUmann stated the three
letters were form letters and addressed parking by stating "... Her plan does not provide for on-
site parking. We support her plan andfeel that her existing back yard should be left untouched
and she should not be required to remove her yard for tandem or other parking requirements".
[Attached].
Commissioners Campbell and Brown stated for the Record that they had individually visited the
subject property today.
Mr. Steele said that in a quasi-judicial hearing it's not a Brown Act requirement but a due
process requirement for Commissioners who have visited a property put that evidence into the
Record so all the Commissioners have the opportunity to know what each other is basing their
decisions on and the public has a right to comment on that visit.
Commissioner Brown asked where the telephone pole was located in relation to the property
line? Mr. Curtis said it's just outside the property line to the south. The fence appears to be
the property line, but without a survey it's difficult to tell.
Ane Cahill addressed the Commission, offering a landscaping sketch and photos of the property.
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Chairman Dahlman explained this is not a Public Hearing item and noted she would be allowed
to speak: if there were adverse testimony given.
Bruce Stark * fNo Address Given]. Seal Beach
Mr. Stark said he felt Government Code, ~65590(b) would apply to this application and read
what he considered the relevant portion:
~65590(b). The conversion or demolition of existing residential dwelling units occupied
by persons and families of low or moderate income shall not be authorized unless
provision has been made for the replacement of those dwelling units with units for
persons and families of low or moderate income. Replacement dwelling units shall be
located within the same city or county as the dwelling units proposed to be converted or
demolished. The replacement dwelling units shall be located on the site of the converted
or demolished structure or elsewhere within the Coastal Zone if feasible. Or, if location
on the site or elsewhere within the Coastal Zone is not feasible, they shall be located
within three miles of the Coastal Zone.
He stated this application is a proposal to eliminate a low income housing unit without a
replacement low income unit and the Commission cannot approve this application as presented
without violating the law.
Mr. Steele stated he would read the entire Government Code section if the Commission wished
him to but said ~65590(b) is not applicable in this instance for two reasons, (1) the section
specifically provides that it does not apply to projects involving three units or less and (2) there
is no evidence before the Planning Commission that this unit is occupied by persons of low or
moderate income, which is a specific requirement of this section.
Chairman Dahlman asked how low and moderate income housing is counted? Mr. Whittenberg
explained the way a low and/or moderate income unit is determined is by the income of the
occupant(s), the number of family members and is done on a case-by-case basis. A unit might
be considered low income at one time but not at another; the City has no mechanism to deal with
this. The State of California has not established guidelines for counting units. The issue at hand
is whether the removal of this unit would require the replacement of another low/moderate unit
within the community or within three miles. The City Attorney has indicated there is a specific
exemption for four units or less and there are also a number of other exemptions in this sub-
section.
Mr. Steele advised State law addresses low/moderate income in two ways: (1) some statues
require counting of units available to persons of low/moderate income and (2) other statutes, like
this one, apply to units actually occupied by persons oflow/moderate income. The statute raised
by Mr. Stark requires the unit to be actually occupied by a person or low/moderate income.
When the Planning Commission is reviewing a residential development proposal and if it's stated
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that there's not enough low/moderate income housing, Chairman Dahlman asked if that's
referring to the units which are available? Mr. Steele said it's hard to tell the Commission what
statute would be involved but there are statutes which require units to be available/affordable by
persons of low/moderate income. Chairman Dahlman noted that even if the subject property is
exempt, the application does reduce the number of available low/moderate income units.
Somebody eventually has to account for the total of low/moderate income housing units.
Mr. Whittenberg said the Commission was confusing "apples with oranges". In this situation,
the apple, the Commission is talking about existing units. Those are not counted toward the
Housing Element's requirement that additional low/moderate income units be built within the
community. The determination that additional units need to be constructed is based on
projections of future population grown within the City; the City doesn't get credit for what it
already has. The State is saying that because there's going to be more population, a certain
percentage of that population is going to be low/moderate income based on the general economic
makeup of the State. As additional housing is built within the City, a certain percentage of the
new housing should be of low/moderate income construction.
Mr. Stark stated that even if Mr. Steele is correct and ~65590(b) does not apply here, he felt
this application violates the City's Housing Element, which calls for preservations of
low/moderate income housing. Mr. Stark stated he visited this property and it definitely
qualifies as low income housing property; the burden is on the applicant to show her exemptions.
Mr. Stark stated this applicant, Contractor Don Cox, removed four low income housing units
on 12th Street and did not provide alternate low/moderate income housing units. He said the
City should start complying with the law and with their own Housing Element.
Ane Cahill * Property Owner at 209 17th Street. Seal Beach
Ms. Cahill stated her second unit has not been rented since October 1993, at which time it was
rented for $825 per month. She has been the sole user of the entire property since that time.
Mr. Steele said he did not have a figure which would determine if that was a low income rental.
However, this situation involves a distinction between available for rent and actually occupied.
Clearly it is not rented/occupied and an argument could be made for properties City-wide that
they may be available for persons of low/moderate income based on what type of rent a landlord
could be convinced to charge. When you are talking about replacement units, the question is,
is that unit occupied by a person of low/moderate income? In this case, if the unit is
unoccupied, it's difficult to classify that as a low/moderate income unit. Regarding the Housing
Element requirement, one section calls for the replacement of low/moderate income housing that
is removed or demolished in the Coastal Zone. There are three issues which come up for this
requirement:
1. It's a policy statement, not a mandate of a one-for-one replacement;
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Is this a low/moderate income unit when it's not occupied by a person of
low/moderate income?
3. For this application, the Commission is not making a finding regarding the
General Plan, although all land use decisions must be consistent with the General
Plan. Rather the Commission is looking at a policy statement rather than a one-
to-one mandate.
Chairman Dahlman said this application is not before the Planning Commission for consideration
of low/moderate income housing. Also, Mr. Cox demolished four other units and because the
new housing built on that site conformed to the latest codes they were approved automatically.
Commissioner Sharp said the Commission was putting undue pressure on this applicant
considering the City Attorney's testimony. The application is before the Commission regarding
parking issues, not low income housing. Chairman Dahlman agreed, noting that if Ms. Cahill's
property were not non-conforming she wouldn't need a Plan Review and wouldn't have to come
before the Commission.
Mr. Steele said that if the entire replacement housing statute were read it could be seen that it's
aimed at displacement of low and moderate income persons. One section provides that if a
person of low/moderate income is evicted from a unit within a year of an application being
made, then there's a presumption that that person was evicted to avoid this replacement housing
requirement.
Ms. Cahill said her tenant was not evicted. Noting she is downsizing from a duplex to a single
family residence and is thereby bringing the property more into compliance with City codes, she
was hoping to be allowed to retain her yard. She contended she is not really adding square
footage, although 83 square feet shows on the plans, because she is tearing down two existing
staircases. She purchased the property in 1981 and has used it since then as her personal
residence; it will continue to be her home. She felt the duplex is a valuable commodity as she
paid her mortgage payments with the rental monies. She therefore felt she is giving something
up and wanted to get something in return. Two tandem parking would require 9' x 40' and her
rear yard narrows to 8.6', with a power pole on one side and gas meters on the other coming
right to her fence line. It would be difficult for her to meet the tandem parking requirements
and it may be unsafe to ingress and egress and avoid hitting the gas or electric utilities. She felt
if the gas meters and electric pole have to be relocated it would be an undue financial burden
on her to relocate them. She looked at other nearby pie-shaped lots and stated her lot is the
smallest but all the others do have parking. She stated she wants to change her second floor
plan by moving the bathroom to where the study was and making the back bedroom larger. She
requested approval of her plan as presented without requiring on-site parking. She presented
the Commissioners with photocopies of her house and yard and a second floor plan with
changes.
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Chairman Dahlman asked if the prohibition of increased bedrooms would apply? Mr. Curtis
said it would not apply because when this structure is reduced to one unit, it is no longer non-
conforming due to density. Chairman Dahlman said there is a second floor room with an
unspecified use which could be a bedroom.
Commission Comments
Commissioner Brown said his main consideration is that the applicant is reducing the dwelling
from a duplex to a single family home and is reducing the lack of parking from four spaces to
two spaces. The City is getting a net benefit. Having looked at the property he felt it would
be difficult to get parking in the narrow rear yard. It would not beautify the City by requiring
asphalt or concrete and removing the back yard. He said he favored not requiring her to provide
tandem parking.
Commissioner Campbell commented that Ms. Cahill is now the sole resident and only needs one
parking space. But if the property were sold the needs might be different. Additionally, 17th
Street is a very narrow, one-way street with parking on both sides which allows only one car
to move down the center of the street. There is only one parking space in front of this house.
In that sense, she was in favor of requiring rear yard parking. On the other hand, she hated to
see anybody lose a back yard.
Ms. Cahill said it was not her intent to sell this property. She believed the City requires two
parking spaces per single family dwelling but it doesn't mean they are used; this a problem the
City runs into. She said her neighbors across the street have two-car garages but one couple has
four cars and another couple has five cars and she has two cars. While parking is an issue, she
cannot address it by herself. Under the present circumstances she is not willing to provide
parking because she feels the property doesn't have the space.
Commissioner Campbell said people would cut across any parking space the applicant would
provide and the applicant would have to find a way to mark it as private property.
Chairman Dahlman suggested the Commission obtain all the information it needs from the
applicant and then allow her to sit down. There were no other questions.
Commissioner Campbell said Commissioner Brown's point was well taken, this applicant is
reducing the parking needs from four parking spaces to two parking spaces. Commissioner
Campbell explained her conflicting thoughts regarding parking, feeling the City must take every
opportunity to improve the parking situation, noting the municipal Code calls for that when
property improvements are made. Conversely, this applicant would have trouble maintaining
her private property as people would think any parking was part of the alley.
Chairman Dahlman said if it were not for the 83 square foot expansion she would not have had
to come before the Commission. Mr. Curtis said the applicant would have had to come before
the Commission because interior wall modifications to a non-conforming unit require a review.
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Ms. Cahill explained tandem parking spaces in her rear yard would take 43 % of her property.
If she were adding substantially more square footage to her house then she should understand
requiring tandem parking might be justifiable. However she does not have the money nor the
inclination to build the property out that much and she wants to retain her yard.
Commissioner Sharp said air quality and the environment needs trees and foliage. This property
has never had on-site parking and the application reduces the requirement for parking from four
spaces to two spaces, therefore he didn't think the Commission should require destruction of the
rear yard to provide on-site parking.
Chairman Dahlman said the requirement for a single family home is two parking spaces. He
said he was in accord with Commissioner Sharp's comments.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Brown to approve Minor Plan Review 94-6 without the
required parking.
MOTION CARRIED:
A YES:
NOES:
5-0-0
Sharp, Brown, Law, Campbell, Dahlman
None
Mr. Steele said staff will prepare a resolution for this item and bring it back at the next meeting.
The applicant was advised the resolution will be signed on October 5th and the ten calendar day
appeal period would begin at that time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. Conditional Use Permit #92-2
Address: 101 Main
Applicants: Ronald and Patricia Sesler
Business: SeaSide Grill
Property Owner: James Watson
Staff Report
Mr. Curtis presented the staff report. [Staff report on file in the Planning Department]. The
applicants, Ronald and Patricia Sesler, request Commission approval for an indefinite extension
of Conditional Use Permit #93-2, allowing beer and wine sales at the SeaSide Grill. Staff
recommended approval. Mr. Whittenberg advised he received a telephone call from the Sesler's
on September 19th. They explained they had employee staffing problems for tonight's meeting
and would be unable to attend. If the Commission had questions, they requested this matter be
continued to the next meeting.
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. Commission Ouestions on Staff Report
Chairman Dahlman asked if the Acceptance of Conditions form had been signed and is on file
from the previous review? Mr. Curtis said yes but, they will have to sign another Acceptance
of Conditions form at this time.
Chairman Dahlman asked if the in-lieu parking fees were paid to date? Mr. Curtis said he
would have to check for 1994 but knew last year's fees were paid immediately.
Chairman Dahlman referenced Attachment #4, Condition #15, asking staff if they wanted to
include an indemnification Condition? Additionally, he asked if the applicants have complied
with the Conditions of Approval fully for the last twelve months? Mr. Curtis said that when he
inspected SeaSide Grill they were complying with the Conditions and staff has received no
complaints or responses to the legal Notice. Chairman Dahlman noted that in a prior hearing,
when they were granted additional hours on a split vote, it was indicated they had been in
violation of their Conditions.
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Commission Brown asked if the SeaSide Grill had been a bona fide restaurant/eating place for
the last twelve months and who would determine that fact? Mr. Curtis said the Department of
Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) would determine the facts as this is one of their conditions.
ABC did audit SeaSide Grill and determined they sold approximately 55% food to 45% alcohol.
Chairman Dahlman asked if they could charge for pretzels and give away the alcohol? Mr.
Whittenberg said no, at a restaurant there would have to be a charge for alcoholic beverages.
Additionally, the ABC doesn't count pretzel sales, they count prepared food sales. Mr. Curtis
said the ABC specifies the types of food items which need to be sold.
Public Hearing
Chairman Dahlman opened the Public Hearing. Ms. Fillmann stated no written communications
have been received. The applicants were not present. No one in the audience wished to speak
in favor of or against this application. Chairman Dahlman closed the Public Hearing.
Commission Comments
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to approve the indefinite extension of Conditional
Use Pennit #92-2.
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Before the vote, Chairman Dahlman asked staff for a status of Condition #15 on attachment #4.
Mr. Steele said the City Attorney present at the Commission meeting considering an hour's
extension, asked that the indemnification condition be added in case any legal action was brought
against the City challenging that extension of hours. In case litigation ensued, the applicant
would be paying for the City's defense. Because an extension of hours is not before the
Commission for this application, the normal immunities would apply and an indemnification is
not necessary. Chairman Dahlman said he would support the application.
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Commissioner Brown, noting there are residents who are concerned about alcohol problems and
intensification, assured those concerned that the CUP Conditions of Approval provide for
revocation of the CUP if the Conditions are violated. He said he would support this application
and had no problems with it.
Commissioner Campbell said she would support this application.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
NOES:
5-0-0
Sharp, Law, Dahlman, Brown, Campbell
None
Mr. Whittenberg said staff will bring back a resolution at the next meeting.
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Variance #94-4
[Application Withdrawn]
[Continued from 7/20/94]
13533 Seal Beach Boulevard
Howard McCurdy/Golden Rain Foundation
Golden Rain Foundation
Address:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Staff Report
The Commissioners were given a copy of a letter indicating this application has been withdrawn
at the request of the applicant. No public testimony will be taken and the Planning Commission
will take no action on the application.
Commission Comments on Staff Report
Commissioner Brown asked if staff had received a ruling from the Fair Political Practices
Commission (FPPC)? Mr. Steele said no. To give formal advice the FPPC requires a specific
application to be on the Agenda. He is now pursuing obtaining informal advice from the FPPC
on this issue.
Chairman Dahlman proposed tabling the withdrawal of this application to allow formal advice
from the FPPC. Mr. Steele said the applicant doesn't want the application tabled and he has
already told the FPPC the application has been withdrawn.
Commissioner Sharp said there was enough disapproval within Leisure World on the
inappropriateness of the sign that it was withdrawn for that reason.
Mr. Steele said a ruling on this request, while providing guidance, doesn't provide immunization
to Commissioners Sharp and Law. The protection provided by formal advice from the FPPC
is application-specific.
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Commissioner Sharp said that if he and Commissioner Law cannot vote on Leisure World issues
that would mean one-third of the City's population has no representation. He didn't see how
they could be stopped from voting because the share of stock they hold is like a deed to their
property and the other share of stock is like the taxes everyone pays to support streets.
Chairman Dahlman said if they weren't allowed to vote it would be undemocratic.
Commissioner Campbell said they should have more say as it's their back yard. Commissioner
Sharp said Leisure World has approximately 9000 units that would sell for less than $100,000
and that's affordable housing in California or anyplace. Commissioner Law said the average
price is about $60,000 with the low sales figure at $30,000.
MOTION by Dahlman; SECOND by Brown to accept the withdrawal of Variance 94-4.
MOTION CARRIED:
A YES:
NOES:
5-0-0
Dahlman, Brown, Campbell, Law, Sharp
None
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STAFF CONCERNS
There were no staff concerns.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Campbell asked when the Commission would see the Bixby DEIR? Mr.
Whittenberg said within the next 3 to 4 weeks. He is expecting to receive a Screencheck Draft,
which comes to the City for the departments to review to make sure all the information is
accurate. It then goes back to the consultant for printing and distribution. Once the DEIR is
available, it will start the clock running for a 45 day public comment period. Staff must prepare
a Response To Comments.
Commissioner Sharp advised that he will be on vacation for the October 5th meeting and asked
to be excused.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Dahlman adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Joan FiUmann
Recording Secretary
APPROV AL: The Planning Commission Minutes of September 21, 1994 were approved by the
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September 20, 1994
BY HAND
City of Seal Beach
City Hall
211 Eighth Street
Seal Beach, California 90740-6379
Re: Plan Review\#94-6\209 17th Street, Seal Beach, CA
To Whom it May Concern:
We own the property at 212 17th Street, Seal Beach,
California, the property directly across the street from the
above-referenced property.
We understand that Ane Cahill plans to convert her
existing duplex to a single family residence. Her plan does not
provide for on-site parking. We support her plan and feel that
her existing back yard should be left untouched and she should
not be required to remove her yard for tandem or other parking
requirements.
Should you have any questions regarding the above,
please feel free to call us at 310-598-6208
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Frank Gonzale
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212 17th Street
Seal Beach, California 90740
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September 20, 1994
BY HAND
City of Seal Beach
City Hall
211 Eighth Street
Seal Beach, California 90740-6379
Re: Plan Review\#94-6\209 17th Street, Seal Beach, CA
To Whom it May Concern:
We own the property at 1611 Electric Avenue, Seal
Beach, the property across the alley and directly across from the
rear year of the above-referenced property.
We understand that Ane Cahill plans to convert her
existing duplex to a single family residence. Her plan does not
provide for on-site parking. We support her plan and feel that
her existing back yard should be left untouched and she should
not be required to remove her yard for tandem or other parking
requirements.
Should you have any questions regarding the above,
please feel free to call us at 310-598-3746.
Sincerely
Tom Chow ~ ~~. _ fht/ fc.f
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Linda Cho~ - ~~;/;r~
1611 Electric Avenue 1J7
Seal Beach, California 90740
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September 20, 1994
BY HAND
City of Seal Beach
City Hall
211 Eighth Street
Seal Beach, California 90740-6379
Re: Plan Review\#94-6\209 17th Street, Seal Beach, CA
To Whom it May Concern:
We own the property at 211 17th Street, Seal Beach, the
property adjacent to the above-referenced property.
We understand that Ane Cahill plans to convert her
existing duplex to a single family residence. Her plan does not
provide for on-site parking. We support her plan and feel that
her existing back yard should be left untouched and she should
not be required to remove her yard for tandem or other parking
requirements.
Should you have any questions regarding the above,
please feel free to call us at 310-493-5867.
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301 15th Street
Seal Beach, California 90740
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