HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Min 1995-06-07
"
..
.
.
.
"
CITY OF SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA of JUNE 7, 1995
7 30 P.M. * City Counell Chambers
211 Eighth Street, Seal Beach, CA
Next Resolution: #95-12
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II. ROLL CALL
ill. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
By Motion of the Planning CommIssion, this is the time to:
(a) NotIfy the public of any changes to the agenda;
(b) Rearrange the order of the agenda; and/or
(c) Provide an opportunity for any member of the Planning COmmtSSlon,
staff, or public to request an Item be removed from the Consent Calendar
for separate action.
IV.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
At this time, members of the public may address the Planning CommIssion
regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Planning
commission, provided that NO action or discussion may be undertaken by the
Planning Commission unless otherwIse authorized by law.
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
Items on the Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and are enacted by
one motion unless prior to enactment, a member of the Plannmg commission,
staff or the public requests that a specific item be removed from Consent
Calendar for separate actIon.
1. Approve Minutes of May 17, 1995
2. Receive and File Letter to County of Orange re: General Plan Conformity -
Proposed Sale of Property, dated May 17, 1995
2300 Beverly Manor Road, Seal Beach (Leisure World Branch Library)
The c~ of Seal Beach comphc8 with the Amcncaos WIth Dlaab1lWc8 Act of 1990 If you need asSIBtance m altendmg thIS meetmg, plese telephone the ~
C\erlt's Office at 1east 48 houn m advance of the meetmg
It
. ~',
.
.
.
Pace 2 - Ct1;y of Seal Beach PIaJuuag ComousslOI1 Agenda · JUDe 7, 1995
VI.
PUBLIC HEARINYS
3.
Bixby Old Ranch Golf Course Development Plan
Final Environmental Impact Report (FEIR)
General Plan Amendment #95-1 (a) and (b)
Resolution #95-
Resolution #95-
Zone Change 95-1
Resolution #95-
Vesting Tentative Tract Map #14465
Resolution #95-
Applicant:
Bixby Ranch Company
Owner:
Bixby Ranch Company
Location:
3901 Lampson A venue - Bixby Old Ranch Golf
Course
Request:
The proposed project would allow a mixture of
residential, recreational, and commercial/office uses on
a 212 acre site. The proposed project will require the
following actions by the City of Seal Beach: (1)
certification of the FEIR; (2) a General Plan Land Use
Amendment; (3) zone change approvals to maintain
consistency with the requested General Plan Land Use
amendments; and (4) a Vesting Tentative Tract Map
approval.
VII.
STAFF CONCERNS
VIII.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
IX.
ADJOURNMENT
Continue Open Public Hearing on Bixby Old Ranch Golf Course
Development Plan Final Environmental Impact Report (FEIR), General Plan
Amendment #95-1 (a) and (b), Zone Change 95-1, and Vesting Tentative
Tract Map #14465 to Wednesday June 14, 1995, 7:30 P.M., at North Seal
Beach Community Center, 3333 St. Cloud, Seal Beach.
The CIty of Seal Beach COIIIpbca wdh the Amencans WIth DuabWtles Act of 1990 If you need asSIstance m aUcndmg tIus meeting, please telephooe the CIty
C1edt's Office at 1east 48 houn m advance of the meeting
Plac 3 - CdJ of Seal Bcacb PIanomg Comm1BSIOIl Agenda · JUDC 7, 1995
.
1995 AGENDA FORECAST
JUNE 14
North Seal Beach Community Center
Continued Meeting for
Continued Review of Bixby Project
JUN 21
City Council Chambers
. Continued Review of Bixby Project
. CUP 95-3 @ 550 PCHlExtension of hours ...
. Variance 95-3 @ B-21 Surfside re side yard setbacks
for addition of 880 sf. 2-story addition.
JUL 05
JUL 19
AUG 09
AUG 23
. SEP 06
SEP 20
OCT 04
OCT 18
NOV 08
NOV 22
DEC 06
DEe 20
1996:
IAN
FEB
MAR
APR
MAY
Election of Chairman & Vice Chairman
CUP 95-111013 PCHlPletro's 12 mos. hours.
CUP 94-11600 Manna/Radlsson 12 mos. ABC
CUP 92-11909 Ocean/El Burrito 12 mos. ABC
.
The CdJ of Seal Beach CCllllpItcs wtlh the Amcncans WIth DlS8blhbcs Act of 1990 If you ncccIl8Slstancc m attcodmg thts mcctmg, pleasc tc1cphOllC the CIty
CIcdt's Office at Icsat 48 houn m advancc of the mcctmg
.
.
.
CITY OF SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES of JUNE 7, 1995
The City of Seal Beach Planning Commission met in regular session, at 7:35 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers, Wlth Chairman Dahlman calling the meeting to order with the Salute to the
Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Dahlman
Commissioners Campbell, Brown, Sharp, Law
Also
Present:
Dq>artment of Development Services:
Lee Whittenberg, Director
Craig Steele, Assistant City Attorney
Barry Curtis, Administrative Assistant
Joan Fillmann, Executive Secretary
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to approve the Agenda as presented.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5-0-0
Dahlman, Law, Sharp, Campbell, Brown
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
No one wished to speak at this orne.
ALENDAR
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Brown to approve the Consent Calendar as follows:
1. Approve Minutes of May 17, 1995
2. Receive and File Letter to County of Orange re: General Plan Conformity -
Proposed Sale of Property, dated May 17, 1995
2300 Beverly Manor Road, Seal Beach (Leisure World Branch Library)
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5-0-0
Dahlman, Law, Sharp, Campbell, Brown
Page 2 - ~ of Seal Beach PIamnng ComnuasIOD MInutes of lunc 7, 1995
. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. Bixby Old Ranch Golf Course Development Plan
3901 Lampson Avenue - Bixby Old Ranch Golf Course
Final Environmental Impact Report (FEIR)
General Plan Amendment #95-1 (a) and (b)
Zone Change 95-1
Vesting Tentative Tract Map #14465
Staff Rcax>rt
Director Whittenberg summarized the twenty-three page staff report. [Staff report on file In the
Planning Department]. CopIes of the staff report and summary table of Proposed Mitigation
Measures were made avaIlable for the pubhc. Mr. Whittenberg explained the applicant and
property owner, Bixby Ranch Company, proposed a project that would allow a mixture of
residential, recreational, and commercial/office uses on a 212 acre SIte. The purpose of the
Public Hearing tonight is to receive public testimony on the proposed project. ThIs is the first
of three Public Hearings which the Planning CommissIOn has scheduled to receive public
testimony on this project. The other Hearings are on June 14th at the North Seal Beach
Community Center and the final Hearing on June 21st in the City Council Chambers.
.
The Planning Commissioners must recommend to the CIty Councll whether the FEIR IS adequate
or inadequate under the prOVIsions of the Cahfomia Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). The
proposed project will require the following actlons by the CIty of Seal Beach: (1) certlficatlon
of the FEIR; (2) a General Plan Land Use Amendment; (3) zone change approvals to maintain
conSIstency with the requested General Plan Land Use amendments; and (4) a Vestlng Tentatlve
Tract Map approval.
Drrector Whittenberg described the project, saying the major portion of the project is the
proposed construction of 98 SIngle family homes on 22.75 acres. Lots would average between
5500 to 6000 square feet In SIze, WhIch is comparable to the College Park East/West and Manna
Hill lots. Access to this area would be from Seal Beach Boulevard at the eXlstlng St. Cloud
intersection. This intersection would become signalized In all four directlons.
.
Director Whittenberg explained the proposed multiple family residential area at the far North
end of the property is comprised of 8.75 acres WIth access from Seal Beach Boulevard. No
specific development proposals have been submitted for the physical design of this area at this
time. This would be submitted at a later date and would require formal Public Hearmgs before
the Planmng CommiSSIOn. The CIty'S Housing Element designates thIS area for consideratlon
of low-moderate income hOUSIng. The applicant proposes 100 - 125 multiple family units In this
area. The north area would require the rezoning of 6.8 acres of commercial property. This
would be changed to 8.75 acres for the high density residential purposes and the remaining
portion would be changed to Recreational-Golf Course zone and be incorporated into the golf
course.
Page 3 - City of Seal Beach PIIIInmg ComoussIOll MmUtca of June 7, 1995
. The eXisting bank building on Seal Beach Boulevard would be removed and Its land incorporated
into the golf course. The existmg golf course would be increased in size from 117 acres to 164.5
acres. This would include the location of a tennis club facility on the golf course property.
Currently the tennis club is across the street on Lampson Avenue, thIs facility would no longer
be retained by the Bixby Co.
The South side of Lampson Avenue would be rezoned from R-G to a commercial deslgnanon.
That area would be 13.5 acres in size, 8.8 acres of which would be additional commercial
zoning over what currently exists now. To give the commumty an idea of what might be
anticipated on this Site, the EIR has assumed a 180 room hotel, 30,000 square feet of restaurant
space, 35,000 square feet of office space and 30,000 square feet of retail space. There's a trade
off as part of the change to commercial zoning --- the Bixby Ranch Co. has offered to dedicate
to the City the existing private tenms club facility. This facility IS approximately 6.6 acres 10
size and has 16 lighted tennis courts.
.
Mr. Whittenberg said the FEIR has been reviewed by the City's Environmental Quality Control
Board (EQCB) and the Archaeological Advisory Committee. The EQCB's resolution
recommends the EIR be found to be inadequate. The staff report contains attachments regardmg
the EQCB Public Hearings demonstrating why the Board felt the FEIR IS madequate. A copy
of the EQCB's draft May 23, 1995 Minutes will be given to the Planning Commission once they
have been prepared, although they will not be approved. The Archaeological Advisory
Committee was charged With reviewing the archaeological section of the EIR and they found the
archaeological section and attending mitigation measures to be adequate.
Mr. Whittenberg said that all the matters before the Planning Commission on this project are
legislative matters and the Commission does not have the authority to make a fmal determmation
on the EIR, the General Plan Amendments, the Zone Change or the Vesting Tentative Tract
Map. They are in the position of making recommendations to the City Council to approve,
approve with modificanons or deny the project proposal. The City Council will hold its own
Public Hearings on this project. The purpose of the Planmng Commission reviewing this project
proposal is to focus the issues, elicit public comments and help the City Council through their
process. The Commission's recommendations will be forwarded to the City Councll via
resolutions.
While the EQCB recommended the Planmng Commission and City Council find the EIR to be
inadequate, staff and the City Attorney's Office recommend the document be found adequate.
Mr. Whittenberg next advised the Planning Commission on their final actions.
.
Mr. Steel said he and the City Attorney felt it would be helpful to give the Plannmg CommiSSIOn
an overview of the legal implications of the decisions before the Commission. In Seal Beach,
large projects requiring EIRs have been the exception, rather than the rule. Only one of the five
Commissioners has considered a project requiring an EIR. He felt the following background
information would be helpful to the decision-makers in understanding the legal and pracncal
.
.
.
Paac 4 - CdJ of Seal Beach PIIIuuog CclmmwIOll Mmute8 of JIIDC 7, 1995
interplay between the various decisions. There are four separate, but inter-related, decisions
before the Planning CommiSSIOn. There will be four votes and four separate resolutions
adopted. The Tentative Tract Map must be consistent with the applicable zoning. To make that
happen, the zoning will have to be changed. The areas' zoning must be consistent with the
General Plan. To make that happen, the General Plan must be amended. Before this can
happen, the City has the responSibility to prepare a legally adequate EIR. The CommiSSIOn IS
asked to review the EIR prepared for this project and to make a recommendation to the City
Council as to its adequacy. The staff report contains all the information necessary as to what
constitutes an adequate EIR, so that information will not be repeated in detall. However,
highlighting the following detaIls is important. CEQA sets out a required number of elements
for an EIR (See page 10 of the staff report). All of these required elements are 10 the EIR
document. Those requirements are the "nuts and bolts" of the EIR. The heart of the adequacy
requirement is set forth at the end of page 11 of the staff report. The Commission must
determine If this EIR contains the information that decision-makers need to intelligently take
account of the environmental consequences of this proJect. This is a subjecnve question for each
Commissioner as a decision-maker. CEQA doesn't require an absolutely perfect document, but
the document must be reasonably complete and fully disclose the environmental Impacts of a
project. CEQA does not require that everybody agree With every element of the EIR but it does
require the EIR be objective and identify areas where experts disagree. It must explain the
reasons for choosing one set of conclusions over others. CEQA doesn't require the analysIs be
exhaustive but it does requrre the EIR be a good faith effort at full disclosure. The Commission
must look at the EIR and the public testimony and decide whether it thinks the document enables
the CommiSSIOners, as decision-makers, to understand and take account of the environmental
impacts of this project as it's mak10g its' decision. If the EIR provides that necessary
informanon, it's adequate. If it doesn't, the EIR needs more work.
Looking at the consequences of a decision on the adequacy of the EIR, what happens if the City
Council determines the EIR is inadequate? A decision that an EIR is 10adequate is not the same
thing as denying the project. The City has the legal responslblhty to prepare a legally adequate
EIR before it can consider the merits of the application. If the Planning Commission
recommends this EIR be found inadequate, or If the City Council ultimately determines the EIR
is inadequate, the resolution on that decision must include a set of find10gs which Identify the
specific inadequacies in the document. At that point, two th10gs could happen. First, the staff
and consultant team could take those findings back to the drawing board and perform further
work on the EIR. The findings serve as the instructions to the consultant and staff as to where
the further work is necessary. Once the areas of concern are addressed, the EIR would
ultimately come back before the Planning Commission for consideration. Secondly, the
inadequacy decision and the findings made by the City Council could be challenged in court.
A court would look at the EIR and the find10gs and make a judgement. The htiganon on that
issue would be limited to those issues raised in the Public Hearings and which are raised 10 the
comments on the Draft EIR. If any person has a position that any element of the EIR is
inadequate, it has to be raised at a time when we can still do something about it or, It can't be
litigated. The court might uphold the deciSIOn on inadequacy or the court might reverse the
City's decision and find that the EIR is legally adequate. In that case, the court would send the
.
.
.
Page 5 - ~ of Seal Belch PIaDnmg COIIIIIU88I011 Mmutca of JIIJJO 7. 1995
EIR back to the City and order the CIty to take action on the ments of the project.
Alternatively, the City Council could find the EIR is legally adequate and certifies the EIR. A
decision that the EIR is legally adequate does not in any way mean that the project is or WIll be
approved. The adequacy of the EIR and the merits of the project are two fully separate Issues.
If the EIR is certified as adequate. one possible consequence is that someone who opposes that
decision could challenge it in court and argue that it is inadequate. The court would look at it
and make its decision. Or, if the decision was not challenged, the City Council would then
proceed to consider the merits of the project, taking into account the envrronmental impacts that
are identified in the EIR.
This EIR, as it is currently wntten, identifies about forty (40) significant or potentially
significant effects on the environment that would result from this project. Under CEQA, the
City must respond to every one of those sigmficant effects before the project can be approved.
One way to respond, is to require the applicant 1Ocorporate changes or alterations 10 the project
whIch mitigate those environmental impacts to a less than SIgnificant level. This EIR proposes
that level of mitigation measure for thirty-six (36) of the forty impacts. That leaves four (4)
identified significant environmental Impacts from this project whIch cannot be fully ffiltlgated.
Those four impacts are designated in the report as significant and unavoidable. Looking at the
summary table in Chapter 2 of the FEIR, those four impacts are noted with the letters II SU" 10
the far right-hand column. The finding that some of the environmental impacts of this project
cannot be adequately mitigated means that after the techmca1 experts have looked at all of the
data and imposed every feaSIble mItigation measure, this project as proposed still would have
some significant effects on the environment. And if the City Council certifies and EIR whIch
identifies significant, unavoidable environmental impacts from this project and If the CIty
Council intends to approve the project despite those significant impacts, CEQA places the burden
on the City Council to expla10 that decision in advance. That explanation would be contained
in a written document called The Statement of Overridzng Conslderatlons. That Statement must
say essentially, we the CIty Council have looked at the benefits to the City from this project and
we've looked at the identified environmental nsks. We've balanced the benefits aga10st the nsks
and we find the benefits outweigh the environmental consequences. The project can only be
approved if the City Councll makes those findings as to each sigmficant environmental impact.
If the CIty Council is unable to adopt The Statement of Ovemdzng Considerations, the Councll
cannot approve the project as proposed.
COMMISSION OUESTIONS TO STAFF
Commissioner Sharp asked Mr. Steele for clarification on the steps following the CIty Council
decision to approve/dIsapprove the EIR. Mr. Steele said if the EIR is certIfied as adequate, the
City Council then proceeds to consider each element of the merits of the proposal 10 the order
of the hierarchy. The Planning CommIssion is holding Public Hearings now whIch conSIder
simultaneously all the elements of the project at the same time it's considenng the adequacy of
the EIR. There won't be any further PublIc Heanngs on the project's merits before the Planning
CommissIOn. If the Council certifies the EIR, they will hold SImultaneous hearing on the
General Plan Amendment, the zone change and the map. If those proposals are approved and
l'Ige6 - C1Iy of Seal Beach PIannmg ComIIuaI'ClIl MmutcB of JIII1ll7, 1995
. adopted, The Statement of Overriding Considerations, they will attach Conditions of Approval
to the project which incorporate the EIR's identified mitigation measures. That's the legally
binding decision which commits the City and the applicant to impose all the EIR's mitigation
measures.
Commissioner Sharp asked if the EIR were approved and there were subsequent major changes
to the project, would it come back to the Planning Commission'? Mr. Steele said if the changes
were major, yes, they would come back for review.
Commissioner Brown said he wanted to review the "sigmficant and unavoidable" items in the
EIR. Mr. Whittenberg said they are:
1. The loss of prime agncultural farm land.
2. Cumulative nOise levels due to AFRC operations actIvity as a disaster support
area.
3. Single event noise levels due to operational charactenstics of the ARFC.
4. Air quality impacts due to operational emissions for the proposed project
components and project-related traffic.
.
Chairman Dahlman said he understood these four areas are areas which, after the proposed
mitigatIon, would still entail a significant impact. Mr. Whittenberg said in stafrs opmIOn that
is correct.
Commissioner Campbell said that at the EQCB meeting, EQCB member Hurley focused on flood
control problems and those comments were the crux of his concerns as to why the EIR was
madequate. She wondered why nothing has been mentioned about this'? Mr. Whittenberg said
the EQCB's discussions included that Issue plus a number of other issues. The resolutIon the
EQCB adopted did not address that issue. Commissioner Campbell asked if Mr. Whittenberg
recalled what Mr. Hurley's concerns were'? Mr. Whittenberg said he was not prepared to
paraphrase Mr. Hurley's concerns but mdicated the minutes of that meeting would accurately
reflect what the concerns were. These minutes wlll be provided to the Commissioners m the
near future.
.
Commissioner Brown asked that if the EIR determines somethmg to be less than Significant and
yet the Planning Commission and/or members of the publIc feel it IS sigmficant and unaVOidable,
how does that effect the adequacy/inadequacy of the document'? Mr. Steele said If the Planmng
Commission feels, based on evidence coming before It, that one or more of the Impacts
identified in the EIR is not properly classified that could bear on the CommiSSIOn's deciSion as
to the adequacy of the document. The Planning Commission must gauge whether that level of
concern is enough to make the entIre document madequate or whether It would be suffiCient to
note the concern as it's passed along to the City Council.
PIce 7 - Cdy of Seal Beach PIaDnmg CclmmIIaIOl1 Mmutes of June 7. 1995
. PUBLIC HEARING
Chairman Dahlman opened the Public Hearing at 8:22 p.m.. He asked if any correspondence
had been received regarding this proposal? Mr. Whittenberg said two letters against the
proposal were received from Xenophon Colazas of 12300 Montecito Rd., #34, Seal Beach and
John Colazas, 3341 Druid Lane, Los Alamltos [Attached].
.
.
Ron Bradshaw · Bixby Ranch Company. Seal Beach
Mr. Bradshaw said he represents Bixby Ranch Company for this applicanon. He mdlcated hiS
team of consultants were present and would speak tonight.
A member of Mr. Bradshaw's staff distributed a packet to the Planning Commission which
contained a brochure on the Bixby Old Ranch Development Plan, a colored map of the proposed
project, a ten-page document entitled "FEIR", a ten-page document enntled "Aircraft NOIse
Issues" and a three-map document entitled "Traffic Issues".
Mr. Bradshaw gave a bnef overview on how the Bixby Ranch Company finds Itself before the
Planning Commission tomght after five and a half years of plannmg. Bixby has been workmg
in two different areas, one with City staff, fully disclosing the developer's mtenoons for
development of the site. In addition, in 1989 Bixby determined that to move forward they
wanted to have not only City staff involved in the process but also the community at large. In
1989 Bixby came to the City Councll and received permiSSIOn to hold public hearmgs in regard
to Bixby's intennon to develop its property. Referring to a map, Mr. Bradshaw explained how
portions of the property came back to Bixby's possession after a long term ground lease with
the Federal Government expired. The Federal Government had secured a long term lease on
the property when the Navy was operaong that facihty. In 1983 the lease expired and the
Government chose not to renew the lease, stating the current type of air operations at the facility
were not the same as when the Navy was operating It and therefore their reason for leasmg the
property was no longer valid. That was when Bixby began thinkIng of additional planmng for
that property. In 1990 there were a series of monthly meeongs held and mid-year the decision
was made not to pursue the public-pnvate meetings reviewing the Bixby property. The project
then sat still for SIX to eight months. At that time Bixby felt the intention was not to rem state
its meetings with the public and BlXby filed a plan for development. That plan is consistent With
the plan under review at this time, with the exception that there was addloonal housmg taken
away from Candleberry, near Lampson A venue. The process and meeongs With various groups
continued without the City's involvement. In 1991, Bixby was approached by the City
Councilman from that distnct, who suggested continuing to work, on a non-bmding baSIS, with
the community to see if there was a plan that could be developed. That was done and that
project continued until the Fall of 1994, when Bixby amended its origmal plan and the present
plan was initiated for the FEIR review. He added that it was always known that the discussions
with the community were not official. Bixby felt it was important to interface with the
community, to get their ideas, to address their concerns to the degree Bixby was capable and
to make modifications to the plan as a result of that. In addition, Bixby met with indlViduals
and groups during the three year period and would remam open to meeting now, as we move
forward during the public process.
.
.
.
Page 8 - ~ of Seal Beach PIaoamg ComnusIIOll MmutcB of JUIIC 7, 1995
Mr. Bradshaw summarized the project, noting the golf course was expanded by fifty (50) acres,
there were 98 residential lots on the North end of the property; they requested a VITM for that.
During the hiatus between Bixby's initial community diSCUSSIOns, the City's Housing Element
was found to be inadequate. During a study of that issue, the Bixby property was identified as
one of the potential sites for providing affordable housing within the City of Seal Beach. BIxby
has realigned that particular SIte and gone ahead with its plan for affordable housing.
Additionally, Bixby was approached by the community to consider having Bixby provide a
community center for the North area of Seal Beach, rather than having another park. After
review by the City's Parks and Recreation Committee, the City Manager and the Planning
Department, the City suggested Bixby put the Old Ranch Tennis Club into that use. He dId not
believe the City's intent was to have an exclusive tennis facility but rather to have a community
center. Bixby agreed to provide the additional facility, in addition to the seven (7) acre site, for
a community center. The City would determine how the currently existing facilitIes would be
used m the future reconfiguration. Regardmg the North site, Bixby believes a commercIal
designation is the site's best use and would provIde fiscal benefits to the CIty. The mitIal project
has been downsized by 25 % with 70 single family homes being deleted. The commumty was
very concerned there be no commercIal development on Lampson A venue; there is none.
Another major concern was the issue of the project's compatibilIty WIth the Armed Forces
Reserve Center (AFRC), Los Alamitos. The base operator, the CalifornIa NatIonal Guard, had
permission from the Federal Government to use an Air Force criteria to develop an AICUZ
document for their operations. That document was completed m June 1994 and that allowed
Bixby's final EIR to be completed. The community was also interested in the historical
Eucalyptus tree grove on Seal Beach Boulevard and that has been preserved. The few trees that
will be cut to allow for the development WIll be replaced in kind, on a two for one basis. The
Country Club entrance would be moved from Lampson A venue to Basswood A venue to proVIde
a signalized access. That required the relocation of the drivmg range to the golf course's
interior; this is an aesthetic improvement. Bixby made a commitment to the community group
to make this a final land plan for the BIXby property in Seal Beach. This IS important because
one of the issues of concern is that Bixby would, on a pIecemeal baSIS, continue to develop and
have the entire golf course under development in the future. That is not BIxby's intent. Bixby
owns and operates the golf club and feels it's a good busmess to be in. Adding fifty acres to
the golf course shows BIxby's interest in the continued recreational use of that property.
Not reviewed in the EIR, but important to the community and City, are the economic benefits
or negatives of this proposal as they accrue to the City of Seal Beach. Mr. Bradshaw prOVIded
the following figures and noted Hoffman & Associates completed a full economic review of the
proposal and thIS may be revIewed:
. City permit fees
. Property tax basis step-up
[property taxes, bed taxes, sales
taxes]
. Traffic mitigatIon fees
. School fees
$ 350,000
$ 850,OOO/year
$1,000,000
$1,000,000
Pllgc 9 - C11y of Seal Beach PIamung Coouwa8101l MInutes of June 7, 1995
.
. Jobs - temporary & permanent
. Community Center's raw land value
$2,500,000
Mr. Bradshaw said Bixby has recently negotiated a contract with a cellular phone facihty. BIXby
chose an annual lease, that is CPI protected, and which wIll generate $13,000 per year to that
site and be income to the City. Commissioner Sharp asked if the $13,000 would be dedIcated
to the City? Mr. Bradshaw said that IS Bixby's intent.
Commissioner Sharp asked if the existing tennis club's facilities were adequate for a community
center? Mr. Bradshaw said that while it's a lovely faclhty It would not be adequate for indoor
recreational use. Bixby will build an addItional facllity on the site and dedIcate it to the City.
Bixby views this as somethmg the City would direct.
SIGN UP LIST
Chairman Dahlman, with the consensus of the CommIssion, provided a sIgn up list to the
citizens who wish to speak: tomght.
CONFLICT OF INTEREST
Chairman Dahlman stated he might have a conflict of interest in that he is a member of the Old
Ranch Tennis Club but not a member of the golf club.
.
KEN BORNHOLDT. Esq. * LAW FIRM OF WALTER & BORNHOLDT
Mr. Bornholdt stated he was present on behalf of the Bixby Ranch Company. He was asked to
address his comments toward the CEQA document and the EIR the CommiSSIOn is being asked
to review. The EIR Identified fifty (50) significant Impacts from thIS proJect. It also identified
136 separate mitigation measures plus 136 mitigation monitonng measures to monitor those
impacts. The FIER has within it 356 comments received from the pubhc and public agencIes
to which City staff and its consultant team spent a lot of tlme responding. Mr. WhIttenberg
enumerated the four (4) of the fifty (50) Impacts which remain significant and unavOIdable
notwithstanding mitigation. Mr. Bornholdt said he would momentanly address two of the four.
Mr. Bornholdt went over the documentation he felt was important for the Planning CommIssion
to review, as part of the CEQA document. There's the FEIR itself, the DEIR whIch is a
component of it, all the appendices attached. In particular, there's an appendlce done by the
City's aviatlon consultant. Another important document IS the AICUZ study adopted by the
California Army National Guard and the Department of Army 10 June 1994; this is a part of thIS
document. The AICUZ study is extremely important because It'S the Department of the Army's
statement of Its analysis and conclusions regarding the aviation effects on the surrounding
community to the AFRC aIrfield. The traffic study contaIns highly techmca1, detailed
informatlon and It'S a part of the FEIR.
.
The EQCB's recommendation was adopted unanimously. In effect, they said the FEIR was
adequate in identifying the 50 SIgnificant environmental impacts, 131 of the mitigatlon measures
were adequate but 5 were not. Of the 5 that were not adequate, they relate to two subjects.
P8ge 10 - CIly of Seal Beach PIaIInmg ComnuaSIOIl MInutes of JUDe 7. 1995
. First, they relate to traffic, and a consultant will speak tonight specifically to the EQCB's
concerns. Second, they relate to aircraft nOIse in two very specialized areas --- smgle event
noises and the mission of the airfield in the event there's a disaster. The EQCB called attention
to one of the Response to Comments, which CIty staff and consultants had addressed to one of
the comments at one of the agencies. This IS in the EQCB monon.
Mr. Bornholdt then referred to the proponent's handout and a document entitled "FEIR
ISSUES". He said those issues are the issues which the EQCB asked the Commission to look
at and which were the basis for their finding that the document was madequate. He said he had
prepared responses to all of those issues, WhICh were based on the record which he referenced
earlier (all of these documents and reports).
Regarding the two issues which were raised in connection with the FEIR and are hsted on page
19 of the staff report. These were posed to the Commission in a question format. He said these
are the issues the Commission must consider when listening to all the pubhc testimony. He
believes that when all the public testimony is over, the Commission's answer will be m the
affirmative, "Yes, thIS is an adequate document. Yes, It should be certified".
.
He said Bixby wanted to call the Commission's special attention to the two letters, which are
Attachments 6 and 7 to the staff report. One is from the California Army National Guard and
one from Caltrans' aVIation secnon. These letters did not receive responses from CIty staff or
their consultants because they were received after their responses were prepared. He said these
should be given a lot of weight in the Commission's dehberations on adequacy.
He said Bixby Ranch Co. also had a lot of comments on the document itself. They were put
into a letter, dated May 23, 1995, and addressed to Mr. WhIttenberg. He handed this to all the
Planning Commissioners. He said he would not go through all the comments but would dISCUSS
two:
Traffic Impacts. Bixby agrees with the City's consultants that they can be mingated to
a level of insignificance. This is after an extensive review and analysis by Bixby's own
traffic consultants.
.
Single Event Noise Aircraft. In terms of the cumulative mrcraft noise and traffic noise
which will impact thIS project, Bixby agrees with the City's consultants. Under the
existing Federal, State and local noise standards and gUldeltnes for land use, all of the
traffic and aircraft noise can be mItigated to a level of msignificance.
Of the four areas that are designated "significant and unavoidable", the first one relates
to single event noise impacts from mrcraft. This IS one area where BIxby disagrees WIth
the City's consultants. The Commission will hear a lot of testimony about nOIse and how
you measure noise and how you evaluate noise but m turn, noise must be taken and
related to land use compatibiltty. How much noise can people live with in a residennal
area? He noted there are standards and cnteria WhICh he thinks are important and whIch
the Commission should follow. As a result of their consultants' analysis, Bixby feels that
Page 11 - Cd.y of Seal Beach PIamung ComouaaIOO Mmufe8 of 1_7. 1995
.
when you take the noise generated by aircraft and street traffic wlthm the context of the
existing urban envrronment and when you consider some of the unique operaoonal
restraints that this airfield operates under, Bixby feels the Commission will conclude, as
Bixby has, that the single event noise level of an aircraft at a given pomt and time IS not
significant given the existing environment. Another point is that under CEQA, the
Commission is asked to look at the impacts which are going to be caused on the existing
environment by thiS project. He said that obviously this project is not going to cause the
single event aircraft nOise - it has nothmg to do with It. Bixby feels the Commission
must keep thiS in focus. Bixby wants the Commission to understand that based on the
1994 AICUZ study, done by the military for their airfield as the operator, that thiS
project is compatible with that air base. It will not alter the operations of that air base
today or into the future. The purpose of the AICUZ study is to assist the CommissIOners
to get input from the airfield operator as to what they see are the compaobllity Issues
surrounding their aIrfield. On the Bixby property there are no compatibillty issues
relative to thiS project.
.
AFRC Disaster Su,pport MiSSIOn
The second thmg is the Issue of the disaster support area miSSIOn at the air base as an
environmental impact. Bixby wants to state that the miSSIOn of the AFRC for disaster
support rellef was gIVen to them in 1979. That miSSIOn was gIVen to them predicated on
the occurrence of an earthquake in the magnitude of 8.3.
Mr. Bornholdt handed the Commissioners a copy of the Annual Report prepared by the
AFRC for 1992, which was used by the City's consultants for some of therr Responses
to Comments. This document shows that the disaster support mission was given to the
AFRC predicated on the occurrence of an 8.3 earthquake. ThiS document also contains
helpfulmformation in understanding the issue of noise and the operational characteristics
of thiS airfield. One of these charactenstics that's important in terms of environmental
impacts is the fact that thiS airfield is closed at night and does not operate between 10:00
p.m. and 7:00 a.m. That's a restraint the base has Imposed on themselves beginmng 10
1973. When the EIR was done for the airfield, and when it was turned over to the
Guard, that was when this night restraint was put 10 place. The aircraft noise that would
be generated on this project at mght, while people sleep, is zero. The disaster support
mission, Bixby thinks, should not be included as a significant environmental impact
because the mission, by ItS nature, is predicated upon a disaster occurring which IS an
unpredictable event. It would be speculaove to say when that miSSIOn may, If ever,
occur.
.
Conversion of Pnme Agricultural Land
The conversion of prime agnculturalland, which Mr. Bradshaw referred to as subject
to the avigation lease With the AFRC, is approximately eighty (80) acres. The Site has
been used for agriculture from ome to ome but is currently used as a sod farm for the
Bixby golf course. He said he was not sure there actually is a conversion of prime
agricultural land taking place. Even if there is, this is clearly an mfill project and there
.
.
.
Paae 12 - e,ty of Seal Beach PIannmg ComnusaIOD Mmutca of June 7, 1995
will still be a lot of agricultural land out there. As such, he felt this was proper for the
Commission to consider m their deliberations.
Air Quality
In terms of air quality, there are many over-riding considerations that would justIfy this
project, not the least of which is housing and affordable housing.
There are several CEQA guidelines that Mr. Bornholdt thought important m terms of the
areas of disagreement. He highlighted the followmg:
CEQA Guideline 115125 which states" An EIR must include a description of the
environment in the vlcmity of the project as it exists before the commencement
of the project in both a local and reglOnal perspective" .
He said this IS important because the Commission is dealing with impacts caused by this
project. You start with the existing environment and then look at It in terms of what
Impacts are being caused by thiS project.
CEQA Guideline 115143 which states 'IThe sigOlficant effects should be
discussed with emphasis in proportion to their severity and probablhty of
occurrence" .
He said in terms of the single event noise levels you have to conSider probability of
occurrence. How often will they occur? How often do they occur for other smgle event
noise levels that we already have in our environment? Based on that, is it a significant
environmental impact.
CEQA Guideline 115145 which states "If after thorough investigation, a lead
agency finds that a particular impact is too speculative for evaluation, the agency
so note its conclusion ..."
[Secretary missed last few words on ~65032(t) and Title 21 ~5006.]
Chairman Dahlman asked staff about City noise regulations. Mr. Whittenberg explained the
General Plan refers to CNELs and the noise ordinance refers to dBa's.
RECESS
With the consensus of the Commission, Chairman Dahlman called a short recess at 9:12 p.m.
The meeting resumed at 9:22 p.m.
CLOSE OF MEETING
Chairman Dahlman referred to Plannmg Commission Resolution 94-20 which establishes certain
time limits and procedures for the conduct of Planning Commission meetings. The Commission
Page 13 - Cq of Seal Beach PIannmg ComouBBIClIl MInutes of June 7, 1995
. briefly discussed their interpretation of a meetings' termination time. It was concluded that
tonight's meeting should conclude at 10:55 p.m. and the meeting adjourn at 11:00 p.m.
Gary Michael Allen. PhD. * Aviation Systems Associates
Mr. Allen noted his firm has been advising Bixby Ranch Co. on this project for several years.
He sald he holds a Ph.D In Environmental Sciences, his specialty is in the area of airport noise
and land use compatibility and he has been doing thIS work for twenty-five years.
Mr. Allen talked about flIght tracks. On a large exhibit, he pointed out that flight tracks are
how aircraft fly and aid in developing noise contours. The exhibit depicts the ground tracks of
the aircraft as they fly over the Bixby property. The red area is 01 and is pnmarily used by
large transport aircraft, fighter/trainer aircraft and helicopters. The blue area is 03, is primarily
used by small fixed-wing aIrcraft. The green area, is track 04, and is primanly used by
helicopters.
.
Mr. Allen said one of the noise issues mentioned earlier by Mr. Bornholdt relates to how nOIse
is measured. How is its impact measured? It's the difference between an average noise metric,
like a CNEL or a Single event metrIc like the sound exposure level. The CNEL is based on
considerable research, both in the United States and abroad, on community perception of nOIse.
It has a solid foundation and embodIes all the factors which acousticians have regarded as being
Important in community perception nOIse; such as the magnitude, the noise Itself, number of
times it occurs, the duration of the noise. The CNEL is used by all Federal, State and local
governmental agencies In determining land use compatibility.
The SEL, the single event level, is an acoustical buIlding block to the process of CNEL or
LON. An SEL is simply a measure of the noise of an aircraft flying over a location. All of the
single events are incorporated into an hourly noise level and all the hourly noise levels are
averaged for a 24-hour day. That's how a CNEL is derived. The average CNEL IS the measure
WIth all the research weIght behind It and the force of law. The State has consistently adopted
65 dB/CNEL as the bright lIne between compatibIlity of a residential land use. The Orange
County Airport Land Use Commission has adopted this as well. The CNEL methodology IS
used via computer modeling to develop noise contours and an exhibIt showed noise contours for
the AFRC. Another exhibit was shown, demonstrating the surface traffic nOIse. The
combination of these is the cumulative noise contour and about 10% of the dwelling units In this
proposal would be exposed to 65 CNEL or higher. It will depend on the final layout of the
family area. 81 % of the dwelling units will be in the 60 - 65 CNEL zone. This does not mean
they are not compatible, it means they have to provide eVIdence that the interior nOIse level
would not exceed 45 CNEL. The remainder, 9 %, are in a zone less than 60 decibels.
.
Surface traffic dominates the noise environment in that portion of the project area closest to the
freeway. Once the surface traffic noise is mitigated you are left with the aircraft noise. 90 %
of the dwelling units are exposed to less than 60 dB --- clearly compatible under any measure.
Approximately 10% are in the 60 - 65 dB zone -- again compatIble WIth some Interior nOIse
evidence. There are zero dwelling units exposed to the 65 dB zone.
.
.
.
Paae 14 - Crty of Seal Belch PIaonmg ComnuaBIOIl Mmutell of JUlIe 7, 1995
Another exhibit demonstrated the adopted contour in the Orange County Airport Environs Land
Use Plan in 1994. This was prepared by the U.S. Army Environmental Hygiene Agency,
incorporated in the AICUZ study and subsequently adopted by the Orange County ALUC. It
shows a similar result with respect to the dwelling units with zero umts in the 65 dB zone.
Regarding SEL, he clarified that an EIR statement suggests there should be a limit for SELs of
100 decibels. It points to John Wayne Airport as an example where that's done. As he was
closely involved with the John Wayne Airport situatlon for a number of years, Mr. Allen said
the way it is stated in the EIR is not accurate. For example, (1) the limit there has been set by
the airport owner-operator not by the adjacent community. The courts have clearly held that an
adjacent community cannot Impose a restriction that affects airport airfield operations in any
way; (2) the limit at John Wayne Airport is not 100 decibels, it's 101.5 decibels. Thls
represents 41 % more acoustlcal energy; (3) that hmit is on the quarterly energy average of all
Class A flights flown at John Wayne Airport by each indiVidual carrier - not one fught. Many
carriers can and do fly flights noisier than the 101.5 dB limit as long as they have an off-setting
less-noisy flight which causes the quarterly energy average to comply with the limit; (4) Orange
County does not use that as any measure of land use compatlbility. They still use 65 dB/CNEL
as the determinate of residential land use compatibility.
At Los Alamitos airfield, the SELs have been cast 10 a significant hght but the truth IS that only
a few of the operating aircraft are capable of generating an SEL over 100 decibels -- the C9s,
727s, C5s, C141s, C2s, 38s and 43s. He said he confirmed thiS through extensive computer
modeling. Table 4.8-3 shows these aircraft comprise only 1 % of the total average dally
operations out of the airfield. An operation IS either a landing or a takeoff. When considenng
the airfield usage, this really means only 0.7 departures and 0.1 landings adjacent to this
property. Each of the aircraft mentloned above would have its own noise signature and its own
SEL. But the event duration for the SELs and exceeding 100 decibels on the property range
from four (4) to fourteen (14) seconds. This he confirmed with computer modeling. Looking
at the table and the operational levels, the site has an average of eleven (11) seconds per day of
noise exceeding 100 dB SEL.
Another way of loolang at the slgmficance of SELs around thiS arrfield would be to look at the
complaint history. From 1992 through 1993 there were twenty-six (26) complaints. Even when
the AFRC was activated for the Los Angeles nots, thls complamt hlstory did not change.
Almost all of the complaints came from the other end of the airfield with 10% of the complaints
from Seal Beach.
CommissIOner Brown asked if the CNEL average would really be much higher since the AFRC
is closed at night and the CNELs are averaged over a 24-hour penod'1 Mr. Allen said it
wouldn't be a CNEL under this hypothetlcal question, but It would be an average nOise. It
would be higher if the 10:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. time period were excluded.
Page 15 - CIty of Seal Beach PIanmog COIDIDIIlIlOO Mmutell of JIIIIe 7, 1995
. Commissioner Sharp suggested the consultants prepare exhibits that can be read from a distance.
He said the Commission could not read these.
PAUL WILKINSON & LINSCOTT. LAW & GREENSPAN ENGINEERS
Mr. Wilkinson said his ftrm is a traffic engineenng firm who has been advising Bixby on the
project for almost six years. Mr. Wilkinson said DKS Associates prepared the traffic study and
Lmscott, Law & Greenspan reviewed it.
Due to comments made at the EQCB meeting, Mr. Willanson began with an overview on trafftc
studies, for EIRs in partJ.cular. He noted trafftc studies are derived from techniques and
approaches which are nationally recognized. California IS one of two states which license trafftc
engineers. These studies are prepared by bcensed professionals. Secondly, Within a traffic
impact study the impacts focus to intersections, focused particularly in the a.m. or p.m. peak
hours. This is some hour, either m the a.m. or p.m. commuter period, when the extreme
volume for four (4) consecutlve mmutes is the highest. There was some confusion at the EQCB
meetlng as to what the peak hour was. The peak hour IS the extreme one (1) hour period --
whenever that occurs. These intersections are evaluated m a setting which considers the
increment of project traffic added to a background condition which accounts for other area
growth in other specific projects. It's not done in a vacuum and it's not layered onto existing
traffic.
.
When evaluating intersections, the engineers consider how it's working now, how it will work
in the future without the project and how it would work with the project added to that future
conditlon. What's important at intersections is the volume to capacity ratio. Volume is
somethmg that is counted or forecasted based on growth of eXlstlng traffic, cumulatlve proJects,
the speciftcs of this project etc.; volume is the numerator. Capacity IS the denominator and it's
defined by the number of lanes at an intersection, the way the signal operates etc.
.
What do the traffic studies tell us? The study looked at twenty (20) intersections which were
selected for analysis because those were the locations where this project was expected to have
the greatest andlor a measurable impact. Of those twenty mtersections, four (4) were
determined to have an impact which may be measurable and adverse. Regardmg the volume-to-
capacity relationship, if the volume grows, the capacity needs to grow to maintain the same
ratio. Capacity is increased is by changing the signal timing andlor largely by addmg traffic
lanes through re-striping or physical widening. These are the types of measures for those four
intersections. In every case, at all four intersections at the p.m. peak: hour, the mltlgatlon
measures mitigate those intersections to less than the conditions that exist without the project.
In several cases, because of existing congestion, that mltigatlon not only takes care of the trafftc
related to the Bixby project at full development but other background traffic growth, traffic
related to other specific projects and some existing deficiencies. Two of the intersections of
great concern to everyone are the ones at the interchange area at Seal Beach Boulevard. He
worked with an exhibit to explain the improvements identified within the EIR at Seal Beach
Boulevard; refer to Figure 4.9-11 at page 5-44 of the FEIR. He said this represents roughly
$1,000,000 of improvements.
.
.
.
Pegc 16 - CIty of Seal Bcacb PIamwJc ComnusslOIl MJJlIIlc8 of June 7, 1995
Commissioner Law asked who pays for this? Mr. Wilkinson said "This is expected to be a
mitigation measure that Bixby would be required to provide as part of their traffic I1lltigation
fees". Commissioner Law asked if Bixby would pay all costs? Mr. Wilkinson said "It is meant
to be a fair share obhgation. It's my understanding, because we don't know exactly what the
trip fees that the City is going to require on the project will be, It's my understanding that this
would be provided in heu of paying those trip fees. The whole thmg" .
Commissioner Law noted the EIR says re the hotel and the commercial property that the
entrance will be put as far down on Lampson A venue as possible. Will any dnveways face Seal
Beach Boulevard? Mr. Wdkinson said it was his understanding that no driveways will be on
Seal Beach Boulevard. All the access will come off Lampson Avenue at a location that's
determined by a registered traffic engmeer to the satisfactIon of the City.
Commissioner Law asked if this would be a gated community? Mr. Wdkinson satd he didn't
know.
Indicating that only one way out of a community would be perilous in a disaster, Coml1llssioner
Law said an emergency connection at the northeast comer of the property, which would go
through to Rossmoor Center, was mandatory. Mr. Wilkinson said there is the opportunity to
mclude an emergency connection between the two parcels.
Commissioner Campbell asked if Bixby would pay to re-stripe the bridge, addmg what happens
in a few years when the bndge has to be Widened? Mr. Wdkinson satd the re-stripmg of the
bridge is an mterim measure that gets a capacity gam. This bridge is an improvement project
that's Within the City-wide Trip Fee Program. Through development, the City is collectIng fees
for improvements Within the City. ThiS would be an ehglble project to use those fees --- to
widen thiS bridge. In the long term, funds from the Trip Fee Program, Measure M funds, and
aCTA grants for matching monies could be looked for. Re-striping is recogmzed as an mtenm
measure but it fully mitIgates the impact of the Bixby project. Bixby will pay for all of the re-
striping and widening of the bridge.
Chatrman Dahlman, With the consensus of the Commission, called those who Wished to speak
to the podium without selection as to who was in favor of or who was opposed to the proposal.
The Chairman noted about fifteen people wished to speak and he asked them to be brief, less
than five minutes.
John Follis lie College Park East
Mr. Follis spoke in opposItIon to the proposal. Mr. Follis satd he IS a 22 year reSident of
College Park East. He spoke about the many area traffic problems. Since Seal Beach Boulevard
and Lampson A venue cannot be widened, the increased traffic from the proposed project would
further clog the streets. He felt that having Bixby Co. pay a "fair share" would never come to
be and the City would wind up paying for all the traffic improvements. He suggested the
Commission vote no and not allow the Zone Change.
.
.
.
Ptae 17 - ~ of Seal Beach l'IamwIa ComnusBKlD Mmulll8 of J\IIIe 7, 1995
Larry Michaels * College Park East
Mr. Michaels spoke in Opposltlon to the proposal. Mr. Michaels said he is a 27 year City
resident and does not like to see the quality of his life threatened by this proposal. He noted
John Nakagawa of the EQCB requested the traffic consultant prepare another report using EMA
(Santa Ana) figures for Southern California so he could compare it to the eXlsting report which
uses national averages. The traffic consultant did prepare a companson but it was not useable.
Additionally, Mr. Michaels said the hours used for the peak travel times were 7:00 a.m. to 9:00
a.m. He suggested they use 5:30 a.m. to 7:30 a.m. to be more accurate. The EIR states the
traffic would go to level of service (LOS) "C" but if the earher hours were used It would be a
higher LOS. He suggested the Commission vote no.
BlII Erickson * College Park East
Mr. Erickson spoke in opposition to the proposal. Mr. Enckson said the AFRC would respond
at lower than an 8.3 earthquake. He suggested Figure 4.9-11 at page 5-44 needed to be more
user friendly and was hard to read. He asked where the sidewalks would be and If the bike
lanes would be the same width throughout. He was afraid groups of bicyclists would be forced
into traffic. He said traffic congestlon and safety affect all of us and all the facts are not m the
record.
Dean Stewart * College Park East
Mr. Stewart spoke in oppositlon to the proposal. Mr. Stewart said he was very concerned about
putting housing so close to the end of the runway --- It's not safe and It's nOlsy. Routlne aircraft
operatlons at the base will subject the residents to excessive noise levels. If there IS an
emergency requiring the base to be operated it will subject the reSidents to even more nOlse.
He felt it was unrealistic to expect Southern Californians to open their windows Just a minimum
width. He felt there are many unanswered questlons -- such as who is paymg for what, is the
noise level based on a twelve hour period or a twenty-four hour period?
Joe Siler * College Park East
Mr. Siler spoke in favor of the project. Mr. Slier smd hiS is a 24-year reSident of College Park
East. Four years ago there was a flier put out by their Councilperson to all the members of
College Park East and they met at the Southwest Regional Laboratories. About one hundred
people attended. The Bixby project was discussed and a straw vote was taken on various
options. The option that got about 80% of the vote was the optlon to compromise With Bixby
on an acceptable basis and try to put an end to the on-going arguments with Bixby. They didn't
want piecemeal development. A committee of twenty was put together with the goal to see if
an acceptable compromise could be worked out. He also said he had been worried about the
proJects' compatibility with the AFRC but, after reviewmg the AICUZ study of 1994 he no
longer believes those concerns are vahd. He said opponents of this project generally forget that
Bixby already has 22 acres zoned for commercial development. If thiS plan is rejected, those
22 acres will sooner or later be developed commercially. ThiS project includes 13 acres of
commercial development and 31 acres of residentlal development. He smd what we are really
talking about is whether an increase of 9 acres of commercial development is better than or
worse than 31 acres of reSidential development. Those 9 acres mclude the tenms facility, which
.
.
.
Plgc 18 - ~ of Sell Belch P\amwJg CommIIsIOll MInutes of lunc 7, 1995
Mr. Seiler felt should be retalned as it's the entry to College Park East and makes a nice
statement. That parcel is zoned commercial and the citizens don't have the abihty to change that
development if Bixby is unwilling. The traffic will be worse from an all commercial 22 acre
development because at peak hour the traffic from one commercIal acre is 6 to 7 bmes greater
than from one residential acre. There would be 719 peak hour trips generated --- only 188 of
those come out of the residential component. The commercial use will cause even greater traffic
problems. If Bixby were to develop commercially, with no residential, all the same mitigation
measures would not be available. Bixby would pay their fees and develop. The proposed
mitigation measures in the traffic area are significant --- they reduce the current ratio of capacity
at each of the intersections, they make significant changes that will improve the traffic flow.
This plan is compatible to the community -- Seal Beach is a residential community. The new
homes in a gated community would enhance the area and increase property values. The
community center is important and would be lost if the project is rejected. FinanCIally thIs
project is very good to the City --- it generates about 1.1 million dollars per year in on-goIng
revenue at a cost of only $300,000 for services provided. That's over $800,000 profit to the
City on an on-going basis. There's over 2 millIOn dollars in up-front fees paid to the CIty and
the school district. This project meets all of the tests we can reasonably ask.
Nick Rini · College Park East
Mr. Rini spoke in opposition to the proposal. Mr. Rini thanked the Planmng Commissioners
for being the citizens' representatives and said he was offended that Mr. Siler said he's got a
group who represents the community. Mr. Rini said he has not given Mr. Siler his authorization
to represent him. Mr. Rini said no one represents College Park East residents except the
Planning Commission and CIty Council. When Mr. Bradshaw saId he met WIth the community
he did not say exactly who he met with. If it was not the Commission, the Council or the
EQCB, but Mr. Siler's group of twenty people, then he's insulted. He asked the CommiSSIOn
to not think any citizen's group represents the community. He said everyone within the
community has the same motives and bIases that the Commission has --- to make this a good
commumty to live in. He said he didn't know if any of the consultants hved In Seal Beach or
had the same goals as the City's reSIdents. He said the developer's goals are dIfferent that the
community's. He asked the Commission to conSIder the mobvabons and goals of the dIfferent
parties involved. He saId he was also insulted when Mr. Bradshaw saId the City would be
making $1,000,000 without telling the Commission all the ramifications and costs --- the
physical ramifications to the reSIdents of the community and the finanCIal costs to the City,
Without knowing the costs, the community cannot legitimately evaluate any project. When Mr.
Bornholdt said "We feel that the disaster report should not be considered" Mr. Rini felt this was
indicative of BIxby's approach to the whole project. Mr. Bornholdt said the report should not
be considered because earthquakes are unpredictable. Mr. Rini said earthquakes are very
predictable -- the only unpredictable part is when it's going to occur. Mr. Rini said if that
thinking were upheld, for example, Caltrans would build bridges without any precautions for
earthquakes. Mr. Rini pointed out this is consistent with Bixby's motivabon which is to make
profit. And the easiest way to make a profit IS to cut down on their costs. Mr. Rim referenced
the January floods at Leisure World and indicated that the property owners are left paying the
costs, not the developer. That builder built without precaunons to save money. Mr. Rini felt
.
.
.
Pace 19 - Cd1 of Seal Beach PIaaomg ComnuSSIOIl Mmutcs of JUDC 7, 1995
the term "paying our fair share" meant "sue us for It later". He suggested looking at the Orange
County bankruptcy for a similar example. Orange County has offered payback at $ .70 on the
dollar and says if that's not acceptable then sue the County and incur the legal costs trying to
get that 100%. Regarding traffic problems caused by this project, Mr. Rini said the consultant's
statement that trip fees would pay for the mitigation measures was double talk. In fact, this
developer would owe the City the trip fees plus monies for the mitigation measures. But the
developer says we will pay our "fair share". He suggested the scare tactics of having to accept
this proposal or be faced with an all commercial proposal were awful and "a lousy way to make
decisions". Decisions should be made on what is good for the community.
Frank Clift * College Park East
Mr. Clift spoke in favor of this proposal. Mr. Cbft said he was a former City Councilmember
who represented College Park East. He wanted to go over a discussion of the concerns
presented by the opponents of Bixby plan. He felt the opponents, members of Peoples Response
on Bixby Expansion (PROBE), made two horrorific statements to scare College Park East
residents who receive and read PROBE bulletins. He saId that since he left the City Council in
the summer of 1988 he has only rarely received any written newsletters or mformatlOn from the
current College Park East Councllman and asked why? SuggestIng the Councilman did not want
hlm to be aware of his position on controversial issues because he might take the opposmg
position. He suggested his address, and others, may not receive the Councllman's informatIon
on purpose as they oppose the position the Councilperson supports. He suggested the
Councilman may fear to discuss opposmg positions or may not want to hear from anyone who
opposes his position. Chairman Dahlman asked Mr. Clift to direct his comments to the
applicant's proposal. Mr. Clift said one of the horrorific statements was "Put in 98 homes at
the end of the Los Alamitos air runway". This is an obviously misleading statement. PROBE
has scared the reader to believe that a major catastrophe is going to occur as a result of home
SiteS at the end of the runway. The homes, if built, would be 2200 feet to the right of the
runway's centerbne. This is a lateral displacement to the nght, away from the air traffic and
puts the homes clear of harm's way. These 98 homes would be farther away from air operatIons
than many of the College Park East single family homes and all of the College Park Easts'
townhomes located across the South side of Lampson A venue between Basswood and
Candleberry. For an aircraft to be bothered by high-end home siting, the pilot would have to
turn right on his takeoff instead of left, as is dictated by the takeoff procedures in current use
at the AFRC, directly opposing the order. This is working as a perfect example of mis-
information by opponents of the Bixby plan to make College Park East reSidents think of the
plan as dangerous to the extreme. One other report by the opponents of the Bixby plan engages
in a disavowal of the existence of a "Plan B". They claim the opponents use "Plan B" to say
that if "Plan A", the plan now proposed by the appbcant, IS not approved then Bixby will go to
Plan B, which would be a full commercial plan with no housing. Unfortunately PROBE
members are unwilling to disclose that "Plan B" is an option which Bixby has been capable of
exercising for more than 20 years because Bixby does own more than 22 acres of commercially
zoned land. Bixby does not have to receive the City's permission to develop those legally zoned
acres as long as they conform to the appropriate type of development allowed under that zoning.
It's not a matter of denying "Plan A" and there's nothmg the land owner can do with his legally
P8&c 20. Cdy of Sell Beach PIaonmg ComnusBIOII Mmutcs of June 7, 1995
. zoned property. The full commercial opt1on would be disastrous for College Park East as it
would have much greater traffic volumes and nOise. It would also deny a much-needed
community center for the College Park East residents. College Park East property values would
be affected by a full commercial development. With the proper zoning, C-2, there is no reason
that BlXby or anyone else is going to have to worry about traffic mitigation. He said he hoped
the members of this Commission would think twice before voting it down.
Chairman Dahlman said it would now take a motion of the Commission to hear any more
testimony tonight because it IS past 11:00 p.m. Hearing no motion, Chairman Dahlman said the
Commission would then wrap up busmess for thiS evening and plan to continue, differing from
the usual routine, in one week at the North Seal Beach Community Center at 7:30 p.m. He said
there will be a speaker sign up list at the front and those who haven't spoken tomght will have
first rights. The Commission will pick up where It has left off tonight.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Campbell to Continue the Open Public Hearing on Bixby
Old Ranch Golf Course Development Plan Final Environmental Impact Report (FEIR),
General Plan Amendment #95-1 (a) and (b), Zone Change 95-1, and Vesting Tentative
Tract Map #14465 to Wednesday June 14, 1995, 7:30 P.M., at North Seal Beach
Community Center, 3333 St. Cloud, Seal Beach.
.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5-0-0
Sharp, Campbell, Dahlman, Brown, Law
STAFF CONCERNS
There were no staff concerns.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
There were no Commission concerns.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Dahlman adjourned the meet1ng at 11:05 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
~o~~,.
Joan Fillmann
Recording Secretary
APPROVAL:
The Plan-i,mg Commission Minutes of June 7, 1995 were approved on
June JJ./ -r 1995.
.