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CITY OF SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA for DECEMBER 17,1997
7:30 P.M. * City Council Chambers
211 Eighth Street, Seal Beach, CA 90740
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Next Resolution: 97-52
ll. ROLL CALL
ID. AGENDA APPROVAL
By Motion of the Planning Commission, this is the time'to:
(a) Notify the public of any changes to the Agenda;
(b) Re-arrange the order of the Agenda; and/or
(c) Provide an opportunity for any member of the Planning Commission, staff, or
public to request an item is removed from the Consent Calendar for separate
action.
IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
. At this time, members of the public may address the Planning Commission
regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Planning
Commission, provided that the Planning Commission may undertake no action or
discussion unless otherwise authorized by law.
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
Items on the Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and are enacted by
one motion unless prior to enactment, a member of the Planning Commission,
staff or the public requests a specific item be removed from the Consent
Calendar for separate action.
1. Approve Planning Commission Minutes of November@ 1997.
2. Approve Planning Commission Minutes of December 3, 1997.
3. Receive and File:, Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
regarding Consideration of Ordinance 1419, re: Zoning Text
Amendment 98-1.
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The City of Seal Beach complies with the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990. If you need assistance to attend
this meeting, please telephone the City Clerk's Office at (562) 431-2527 at least 48 hours in advance of the meeting;
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4.
Receive and File: Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
regarding Proposed Marine Corps Reserve Center at Seal Beach
Weapons Support Facility.
5. Receive and File: Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
regarding Scoping Meetings - State Route 22 Freeway Improvements.
6. Receive and File: Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
Regarding 1997 Proposed Airport Environs Land Use Plan
Amendments - Orange County Airport Land Use Commission.
VI. SCHEDULED MATTERS
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
7.
Conditional Use Pennit 97-13
Minor Plan Review 97-8
Address: 121 2nd Street
Applicant: Mark Gole
Property Owner: Mark Gole
Request: To perform a major addition and remodel to a non-
conforming duplex. This would include the addition of
two (2) new tandem parking spaces to create a four-
car tandem garage, the demolition and replacement
of the one-story front unit. The new front unit will be
two stories in height with an area of 2,334 square
feet.
Recommendation: Approval subject to Conditions of Approval.
8. Zoning Text Amendment 97-4
Applicant: City of Seal Beach
Request: To consider amending the municipal Code of the City
of Seal Beach to allow exterior stairwells to the
second floor of residences in the Residential Low
Density (RlD) zone which have original, existing
second floor kitchens.
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this meeting, telephone the City Clerk's Office at (562) 431-2527 at least 48 hours in advance of the meeting; thank
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VIII.
STAFF CONCERNS
./ Staff Memo re Yucatan Grill review.
./ City Letter of 12/8197 re Draft EIR - Marina Shores
./ City Letter of 11/13/97 re Draft EIR - Long Beach Animal Care Facility
./ City Letter of 11/13/97 re Draft EIR - Commercial Development of Los
Altos Drive-In Theater.
IX. COMMISSION CONCERNS
X. ADJOURNMENT
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this meeting, telephone the City Clerk's Office at (562) 431-2527 at least 48 hours in advance of the meeting; thank
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City of Seal Beach Planning Commission Agenda * December 17, 1997
1998 AGENDA FORECAST
NOT SCHEDULED: CUP 97-1 Yucatan Grill @ 12147 SBB
JAN 06 Note: Commissioner Hood Absent
Memo Realty sign @ Old City Hall
JAN 21 VAR 87-2 Revocation [Cont'd from 12-3-97]
FEB 03
FEB 17
MAR 03
MAR 17
APR 08
APR 22
MAY 06
MAY 20
JUN 10
JUN 23
JUL 08
JUL 22
AUG 05
AUG19
SEP 09
SEP 23
OCT 06
OCT 20
NOV 04
NOV18
DEC 09
DEC 23
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Review commercial uses.
VAR 93-1
212 MAIN ($7300 final in-lieu pmt)
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this meeting, telephone the City Clerk's Office at (562) 431-2527 at least 48 hours in advance of the meeting; thank
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CITY OF SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES of DECEMBER 17, 1997
Chairman Brown called the regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting of
December 17,1997 to order at 7:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers. The meeting
began with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Also Present:
Absent:
Chairman Brown
Commissioners Larson, Yost,
Department of Development Services
Lee Whittenberg, Director
Craig Steele, Assistant City Attorney
Barry Curtis, Associate Planner
Joan Fillmann, Executive Secretary
Commissioners Law and Hood
MOTION by Yost; SECOND by Larson to excuse the absences of Commissioners Hood
and Law.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT:
3-0-2
Yost, Larson, Brown
Hood, Law
AGENDA APPROVAL
The Chair requested Consent Calendar item #3 be pulled for separate consideration.
MOTION by Yost; SECOND by Larson to approve the Agenda as presented with the
exception of Consent Calendar item #3 which would be considered separately.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT:
3-0-2
Yost, Larson, Brown
Hood, Law
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no oral communications from the audience.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Larson; SECOND by Yost to approve the Consent Calendar as presented
with the exception of item #3 which would be considered separately.
1. Approve Planning Commission Minutes of November 17, 1997.
2. Approve Planning Commission Minutes of December 3, 1997.
4. Receive and File: Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
regarding Proposed Marine Corps Reserve Center at Seal Beach
Weapons Support Facility.
5. Receive and File: Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
regarding Scoping Meetings - State Route 22 Freeway Improvements.
6. Receive and File: Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
Regarding 1997 Proposed Airport Environs Land Use Plan
Amendments - Orange County Airport Land Use Commission.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT:
3-0-2
Yost, Larson, Brown
Hood, Law
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3. Receive and File: Staff Report, dated December 8, 1997, to City Council
regarding Consideration of Ordinance 1419, re: Zoning Text
Amendment 96-1.
Chairman Brown requested information on the staff report.
Mr. Whittenberg explained the staff report was presented to the City Council on
December 8, 1997 when the Council was considering adoption of Ordinance 1419. The
basic provisions of the ordinance are:
1. For those properties along Crestview Avenue, adjacent to the Hellman
Ranch and Gum Grove Park, which have an existing, but non-permitted,
deck in their rear yard, this ordinance would require those non-permitted
decks to come before the City and obtain a Minor Plan Review within 12
months from the effective date of the ordinance.
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Secondly, individuals wanting to build a new deck in that same area would
have the right to come to the Planning Commission and apply for a
Conditional Use permit to receive approval to build a deck within the 10'
rear yard setback.
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The ordinance has been introduced by the City Council and they will have a second
reading on January 12, 1998. If approved, the ordinance would take effect thirty (30)
days after that.
Chairman Brown said when the issue of the decks on these properties came before the
Planning Commission; the Commission turned down this Zoning Text Amendment. This
issued involved people who had illegally built decks into their setbacks, some with
permits and some without. They now desire to keep their illegally built decks.
Mr. Whittenberg said this ordinance would allow persons to keep or build their decks
with review and approval of the Planning Commission. The Commission could impose
conditions to ensure the deck is compatible with the neighborhood. If the Commission
felt a greater setback were required, the Commission could require the deck be smaller.
Chairman Brown asked staff what is the setback for a deck in this neighborhood?
Mr. Whittenberg said it could be a 0' setback.
Chairman Brown then asked what is the setback for all other properties, except for
these properties?
Mr. Whittenberg said it is 10'.
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properties that nobody else in the City has?
Mr. Whittenberg answered that this ordinance would allow for different development
standards, just as there's a different development standard for residential construction
in Surfside. There are particular property circumstances in Surfside. The City Council
felt there are particular property circumstances along Crestview Avenue.
Chairman Brown asked what those particular property circumstances were?
Mr. Whittenberg said he was not going to speak on behalf of what the Council's
determinations were. This is the ordinance that they have considered to this point.
Chairman Brown said the Planning Commission held meetings on this, considered the
situation and he felt the Planning Commission had made the right decision. This
Ordinance would be granting a special privilege. These people have built their decks
illegally into the setback, in many cases without permits. He asked if any of the decks in
question had building permits?
Mr. Whittenberg said a number of decks had permits. Years ago the City's standards
were different than what they are today; they were legal at that point.
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Chairman Brown said he thought it was wrong before and he continues to think it's
wrong. "The City Council, in their wisdom, made a decision that I still feel is wrong.
And I think -- I don't know what the Planning Commission can do. Obviously the City
Council can override our decision. But it escapes me why they made this decision. I
can't think of a good reason for doing this. What this does is this allows anybody really
to do whatever they want to do. I'll make my political statement on my feelings - when
people come before the Planning Commission, we set up rules and regulations. If you
don't like the rules or the regulations then you change them. And if you don't like the
people who are making them, then you change those people. But you just don't go out
and blatantly violate the law because you don't like it. And this (is a ) case, where the
Council is retroactively giving approval to this. I don't know what we have to do to
receive and file this. But anyway, I won't vote for this one again. The only place I think
it's appropriate to file this ordinance is the waste basket".
Mr. Whittenberg stated that this Council staff report was put in the Commission's packet
as an information item to make the Commission aware of the Council's determination.
Commissioner Yost said he was "miffed" because he heard about this from a Seal
Beach Sun newspaper reporter first, before his packet arrived. He said he thought it
was strange that the Commission would not be given the history/background of an item
over which they will have jurisdiction before others.
Mr. Whittenberg said it was put on the Commission's first Agenda after the Council
introduced the ordinance. This is the first time staff could get it to the Commission.
Commissioner Larson said the Planning Commission was quite concerned about how
the Hellman Ranch residential section would be developed and there was discussion on
how far they could go into the rear setback. Before that gets underway, the City is
making an exception for Hill residents. "I guess I'm beating a dead horse".
Chairman Brown said there is still a second reading. "The Council still could come to
their senses and turn this around. I don't know that that's likely. I think it is a political
decision for a few votes. You know, I don't even want to say that --- I don't know that
that's fair. But... people can't build structures within the setbacks. And if this occurred
in any other area of the City, it would not be allowed. People are taking advantage of
the fact that the Hellman Ranch property is vacant behind them. And saying, well we
can build because there's nobody behind. So, maybe this is a case where you're
changing the rules retroactively. But I still think it's wrong".
Commissioner Yost said the general issue is they are going by the process that the
Chairman has described in that they have gone about it by lObbying to change the rule.
The rule doesn't let them do anything yet they still require inspection by the City
inspectors and it has to pass that inspection or it doesn't get permitted.
Chairman Brown said many of these decks have been built in violation of the law. And
at least with one of these structures, the person was told several time s to demolish the
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deck; it was red tagged by the inspectors.
e Mr. Whittenberg said that deck has a long history to it. It was built without building
permits. A Stop Work Order was issued. They applied for a Variance and appeared
before the Planning Commission. The Commission denied the Variance request. They
appealed to the City Council. The Council denied the Variance but then requested the
City to consider amending the Code to deal with the issue of the non-permitted decks in
that area.
Chairman Brown said he was not asking the Director to defend the Council. He noted
he spoke to his Council representative and told her his feelings on the subject.
Commissioner Larson went back to the properties to be developed on the Hellman
Ranch, asking how their rear yards would interact with this ordinance? Would this
ordinance grant Crestview properties a special privilege while the Hellman homes would
be required to adhere to the law without exceptions?
Commissioner Yost said there is a slight difference --- the homes on Crestview Avenue
abut Gum Grove Park while those that aren't along the park area, abut a setback which
was promised by the Hellman people to not be built on. There won't be anything
directly behind them.
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Mr. Whittenberg said there is a 40' minimum separation between the existing lots along
Crestview and the proposed lots for the Hellman Ranch. It will remain as a private open
space area, as a part of Gum Grove Park. In many instances, the separation is much
wider than 40"
The Commission received and filed this matter with no further discussion.
SCHEDULED MATTERS
There were no scheduled matters.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
7. Conditional Use Permit 97-13
Minor Plan Review 97-6
121 2nd Street
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Staff Report
Mr. Curtis delivered the staff report. [Staff report on file in the Planning Department for
inspection]. The applicant and property owner, Mark Gole, requested to build a major
addition and remodel a non-conforming duplex. This would include the addition of two
(2) new tandem parking spaces to create a four-car tandem garage, the demolition and
replacement of the one-story front unit. The new front unit will be two stories in height
with an area of 2,334 square feet. Staff recommended approval subject to Conditions of
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Approval.
. Mr. Curtis indicated that a letter in opposition was received from Jim Gibson, 121 3rd
Street, Seal Beach [attached]. He noted that Mr. Gibson's property is across the street
from 121 2nd Street.
Commission Questions to Staff
Commissioner Yost asked if there had been any complaints regarding tandem parking
at this site or other sites? Mr. Curtis said no.
Chairman Brown noted staff is recommending a condition be placed on this that the
garage will be available to both units per the lease. He asked what mechanism is in
place to enforce this?
Mr. Curtis said it would be difficult to enforce. Staffs thought was that when/if the
property changes hands a new owner may decide not to follow through with it. The
tenants could then complain to the City. The City could proceed with a Code
enforcement. Future owners would be made aware by the covenant.
Chairman Brown asked which municipal Code would be enforced?
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Mr. Whittenberg said the City would be enforcing the terms of the covenant, which is a
Condition of Approval for the CUP. That would come back before the Planning
Commission for consideration of revocation if they are not complying.
Chairman Brown said the CUP is allowing them to build the structure and it would
already be built at that point.
Mr. Steele said that to comply with the zoning code and building code the property must
be used and maintained in compliance with the terms and conditions in the CUP. If it's
not, it would be a violation of the zoning code, a misdemeanor. In this case, it's not a
use which would be easy to shut down, because it would already have been
constructed. That's a case where you could go to criminal court. You need criminal
sanctions to actually enforce compliance with the CUP.
Chairman Brown asked which part would be criminal? The violation of the CUP? The
zoning code says you only have to have a certain number of parking spaces per unit.
Mr. Steele said the zoning and building codes both say that if you are required to have a
CUP for a particular use, you must comply with all conditions. Not complying with the
conditions would be a violation of Section 28-.... of the Code and that's a misdemeanor
or, technically, an infraction.
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Commissioner Lawson asked if it would be possible to insert a condition that the use of
these parking spaces shall be limited to tenants of the building --- no renting it out to
anyone or use by anyone else. Then, if the City finds that non-tenants are using it, it
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would violate the conditions.
Mr. Steele said that would be possible. He asked staff on the wording ... the parking
would be used solely by the tenant of one unit and not available to the tenant of the
other unit. So the second tenants would be parking on the street somewhere. Staff is
concerned about a third party using the spaces and making sure both parties in the
building have access to the spaces.
Mr. Curtis said it's already a violation of the municipal code to rent out required garage
spaces to third parties.
Chairman Brown said it's also a code violation to rent out garage spaces to non-
vehicular uses.
Mr. Curtis said because required garages are to be used for short term parking of
operable vehicles, this doesn't need to be a condition. Any type of storage in a garage
prohibiting cars from parking there is not allowed. Also, the parking is required for the
people residing on the property, which prohibits the third-party rentals. In Old Town
40% to 50% of the garages have stuff in them prohibiting the parking of the required
number of cars. Because of this, it's too burdensome to enforce.
Public HearinQ
The applicant, Mark Gole, was present but declined to speak.
There were no persons wishing to speak in favor or against this application and the
Public Hearing was closed.
Commission Deliberations
Commissioner Yost said he liked getting rid of the illegal second unit. He didn't have
much problem with the tandem garage; the more cars we can get off the street the
better for Old Town where parking is a big problem.
Chairman Brown said he was surprised at Mr. Gibson's letter, as it would benefit him by
getting more vehicles off the street. This application is making things better --- going
from three units to two units, from two parking spaces to four spaces. He was in favor
of this.
MOTION by Larson; SECOND by Yost to approve Resolutions Nos. 97-52 and 97-53
thus approving Conditional Use Permit 97-13 and Minor Plan Review 97-6 for 121 2nd
Street.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT:
3-0-2
Larson, Yost, Brown
Hood, Law
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Mr. Steele indicated the Commission's action is final tonight and the ten, calendar-day
appeal period begins to run tomorrow.
8. Zoning Text Amendment 97-4
Staff Report
Mr. Curtis delivered the staff report. [Staff report on file in the Planning Department for
Inspection]. The applicant, the City of Seal Beach, requested consideration to amend
the municipal Code of the City of Seal Beach to allow exterior stairwells to the second
floor of residences in the Residential Low Density (RLD) zone which have original,
existing second floor kitchens.
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Mr. Curtis explained this issue was brought to staff's attention last year by a Marina Hill
resident, David Prime, who has a second floor kitchen with no access to his back yard
without walking through the house. The Commission considered the matter and
requested staff seek Council approval for a Zone Text Amendment. Mr. Prime listed six
other properties having similar second floor kitchens. In looking thru the building
permits, the addresses were correct. All of those other six homes have existing exterior
stairways to the yards. Because these homes were built in the 1950's and the plans are
microfiched, it became too burdensome for staff to review all the microfilm to find if there
were other properties beyond the six or seven properties noted. Staff drove around to
locate additional examples but didn't see any. Staff went through the floor plans of
College Park East and College Park West, two other areas of the City affected by this
text amendment, and none of those floor plans included second floor kitchens or
exterior staircases. In 1993, the City adopted a ZT A to prohibit exterior stairways to
second stories in single family dwellings. It was intended to make it more difficult to
convert single family structures to illegal second dwelling units. The main target at that
time was the Old Town area.
Commission Questions to Staff
Commissioner Larson asked about original existing second floor kitchens and the
ordinance applies to existing second floor kitchens; is there a distinction?
Mr. Curtis said yes, if it's read that way. As he prepared the staff report he noticed this
but didn't catch it in the correction.
Commissioner Larson asked if there were anything in the ordinance from getting a
building permit to build a kitchen on the second floor?
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Mr. Curtis said no. He intended to add that in. Staff intended it to be for existing
kitchens at the time the ordinance was adopted and this should be added in. If the
Commission doesn't mind new kitchens coming in and new stairways being allowed to
them in the future then it won't be added.
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Public Hearino
David Prime * 1435 Catalina. Seal Beach
Mr. Prime spoke in favor of this ordinance. If there's any apprehension on the terms of
this he would be willing to sign a covenant to be recorded on his property that his
property will not be converted to a rental property.
There were no other persons wishing to speak for or against this application and the
Chairman closed the Public Hearing.
Commission Deliberations
Commissioner Yost said he did not have a major concern with this. His concern would
be the same concern as the City's - that the units not be divided into illegal, multiple
dwelling units. He asked about signing a covenant determining it be a single family
resident.
Mr. Curtis said the Commission could add this. Staff didn't feel it was worth going to
that effort at this time because it applies to one house at this time.
Commissioner Yost said a ZTA would apply to other properties and favored making the
conditions as tight as possible.
Commissioner Larson said the legislature used to make laws by allowing the cities to do
peculiar things that no one else was allowed to do and then say this statute will expire in
90 days. He suggested this could be done in this case.
Mr. Curtis said the only problem he could see with that is staff is not sure if there are
any similarly situated properties. Staff knows there are these seven properties but it
was too difficult to review 1500 sets of microfiche.
Commissioner Yost said this would be like giving someone a special privilege and then
taking it away. He would prefer to find a rule, which applies to everyone equally.
Chairman Brown asked Mr. Steele for ideas to accomplish this.
Mr. Steele said the wording could be adjusted to read:
B. Permitted Uses rSinole-Familv Dwellinos).
(1) Exterior stairways providing access from the ground level and/or the first
floor to the second floor or above, when such stairways are not specifically
required by the Uniform Building Code. Excepting such stairways may be
permitted through the building permit process in Planning District V on
properties with a second story kitchen existing as of the effective date of
this ordinance. Owners of such property shall be required to first
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record a covenant against the title of the property prohibiting the use of
the property for second residential purposes.
That would make it apply only to second-story kitchens that in effect on the date that the
City Council actually approves it (if they do). Staff will know who has existing kitchens
via building permit records.
MOTION by Yost; SECOND by Larson to approve Resolution 97-54, thus approving
Zoning Text Amendment 97-4 with amendments as noted by the City Attorney.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSENT:
3-0-2
Yost, Larson, Brown
Hood, Law
Mr. Whittenberg indicated that this matter would now be scheduled for a Public Hearing
before the City Council on January 12, 1998.
STAFF CONCERNS
Mr. Whittenberg wished the Commission happy holidays. He noted there might not be a
Planning Commission on January 7, 1998 due to lack of agenda items.
Mr. Whittenberg indicated the following items were presented for the Commission's
information:
./ Staff Memo re Yucatan Grill review.
./ City Letter of 12/8/97 re Draft EIR - Marina Shores
./ City Letter of 11/13/97 re Draft EIR - Long Beach Animal Care Facility
./ City Letter of 11/13/97 re Draft EIR - Commercial Development of Los
Altos Drive-In Theater.
Chairman Brown discussed the Marina Shores development, asking the scope of the
development? This development will affect Seal Beach.
Mr. Whittenberg said there would be a 40,000 square foot market and 19,000 square
feet of retail uses. It will be on the ocean side of Pacific Coast Highway at Studebaker
Road. The City had significant comments on that project, primarily regarding issues of
traffic impacts into Seal Beach and the impact of another market in the area. The City
of Long Beach said there was a study done which indicates there's a demand for an
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additional market. Staff has asked them to provide a copy of that market study because
staff is not sure there is a market demand. Secondly, staff feels they have not
addressed some of th~ secondary impacts that type of a use could generate to local
markets along Main Street and Pacific Coast Highway.
Chairman Brown said that's 60,000 square feet of retail space. The Boston Store was
about 40,000 square feet but not larger than the Seal Beach Center.
Mr. Whittenberg said another project that staff will be commenting on in the future - a
proposal to open an Orchard Supply hardware store on the opposite side of PCH,
adjacent to the river. Comments will be forthcoming once the DEIR is submitted to the
City for review.
Chairman Brown asked if when the EIRs are prepared, are they done with the
knowledge that there's another project coming along?
Mr. Whittenberg said yes, that's the reason the DEIR was redone for Marina Shores.
That had gone through the environmental review process as a Negative Declaration.
When the Orchard Supply project was submitted, they went back because of the
cumulative impacts of both projects so close to each other and had to prepare an EIR.
Chairman Brown said those projects would have a major impact on PCH traffic in that
area.
Commissioner Larson said they may have a market study but Ralph's market has
complained bitterly that there isn't enough room for other markets. That will affect Seal
Beach; Mr. Whittenberg agreed. Commissioner Larson indicated that cities might shut
their eyes to what's going on in the community and focus on the sales tax dollars to be
received.
Chairman Brown asked what the City of Seal Beach could do?
Mr. Whittenberg indicated that assuming their EIR is certified the City of Seal Beach
could file suit challenging the adequacy of the EIR.
Mr. Steele said individuals and the City could go to their public hearings and protest.
There was some disagreement in the Hellman EIR process with regard to the means of
counting traffic and the mitigation measures. In the Hellman EIR staff considered that
market project. There was some disagreement by the City of Long Beach on the traffic
counting. It was responded to at some length in the Hellman EIR.
Chairman Brown said that's a clear difference in the philosophy between the City of
Seal Beach and the City of Long Beach. Seal Beach is building a golf course with 70
homes and restoring wetlands. Long Beach is putting up another large commercial
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COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Larson asked when the Planning Commission would review the Bixby
Co. proposal? Mr. Whittenberg said staff anticipates this in mid-March to early April
1998.
Commissioner Yost complimented Mr. Curtis on the City's web page. Mr. Curtis gave
the address as www.cLseal-beach.ca.us.
Chairman Brown thanked staff for it's high-quality work in 1997 and said the
Commission appreciated it.
Commissioners Larson and Yost wished staff happy holidays.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Brown adjourned the meeting at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted:
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Planning Department1
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Mr. Jim Gibson
121 3rd St., Seal Beach, CA. 90740
(310) 493-0360 (also FAX)
CITY OF SEAL BEACH
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DEPARTMENT OF ,
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Mr. Lee Whittenberg
Director of Development Svcs.
City Hall 211 Eighth Street
Seal Beach, CA. 90740
ref: Conditional Use Permit 97-13
121 and 121 1/2 Second St.
Minor Plan Review 97-6
Dear Mr. Whittenberg,
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Thanks very much for your notice regarding the Planning Commission hearing on 17 Dec 97.
Unfortunately I will be unable to attend due to conflicts with my normal work schedule.
Please note my objection to the proposed addition. I do not feel that a double tandem parking garage
should be allowed. I feel that there would be an adverse affect on the traffic and noise in the alley
directly behind our house.
Normal use of such a tandem parking arrangement would require jockeying of vehicles back and
forth in the narrow alley which would cause unwanted traffic, obstruction to normal use, and
~acc~ptable Je_yels ofnojse ap.d activity at anY p-ossible ti!lle of the day or I)ight, _ _ _ ____
I am strongly opposed to any such use of the property and request that this objection be noted in the
proceedings.
Thanks and best regards,
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James E. Gibson
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