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SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
t1ty tounc11 Chambers
211 Elghth Street
Seal Beach. California
\ 2'he Seal Beach PlaJ2lUng COIIIIUss~on _ts ~n sess~on every f~rst and th~rd Wednesday of each
IIIOnth at 7.30 p.m. If you w~sh to address the COllllll.1ss~on on any "..rt~cular publ~c hear~ng
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center of the room ~s unoccup~ed, step up to the mJcrophone and when recognJzed by the
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and d~st~nctly for the records. State your bus~ness as clearly and succ~nctly as possJble
and then wa~t II. III01IIent to see ~f the CClII/IIUss~oners have any quest~ons ~n regard to your
comrnents or quest~ons If there are no other quest~ons or comments, return to your seat
so that the next person lIIlIy address the CClII/IIUssJon.
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prov~des for that Ume when the Cha~rman asks for comments from the publJC Address the
Commuss~on ~n the same manner as stated for publJC hear~ngs, always stat~ng your name and
address f~rst
MARCH 21, 1984
Next Resolutlon #1319
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1. Pledge of Alleglance
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Mlnutes of March 7, 1984
4. PubllC Hearlngs: (Contlnued from March 7, 1984)
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 5-84 Resolutlon #1315 & 1316
Tentatlve Parcel Map 83-1002
A request to convert an eXlstlng duplex lnto two condo-
mlnlum unlts located on the west slde of 2nd Street
approxlmately 80 feet south of the centerllne of Central
Way (127 2nd Street).
Sectlon: 28-700(3)B
Appllcant: Paul Calvo
Owner: Joyce Ross
B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 14-83 (Resubmlttal) Resolutlon #1317
A request for approval of a Planned Slgn Program wlth a 47%
helght devlatlon from the slgn code for a center ldentlfl-
catlon slgn.
Sectlon: 28-1803
Appllcant: Coast Property Mana&ement
Owner: S. Mark Taper TR. c/o Seal Beach Center
C. VARIANCE 3-84 Resolutlon #1318
A request for a maJor addltlon to a legal nonconformlng
duplex, wlthout provldlng the requlred parklng.
Sectlon: 28-804
Appllcant: John & Mary Loulse Szczerban
Owner: Same
5. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 4-83
Archltectural Revlew of a proposed two-story cabana located at
83 Rlversea Road. (contlnued from February 15, 1984).
Appllcant: Norman Brent
6. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 1-84
Archltectural Revlew of a proposed two-story cabana located at
76 Rlversea Road.
Appllcant: Mlchael Tldwell
7. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 2-84
Archltectural Revlew of a proposed second-story cabana over the
eXlstlng tral1er located at 22 Cottonwood Lane.
Appllcant: Dean Scheele
8. Commlsslon Requests
9. Oral Communlcatlons
10. Commlss10n Communlcatlons
11. Report from Secretary
12. AdJournment
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MINUTES OF THE SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING OF MARCH 21, 1984
The Plannlng Commlsslon met In regular seSSlon on Wednesday, March 21,
1984 In the Councll Chambers of the Clty Admlnlstratlon BUlldlng.
The meetlng was called to order at 7:34 p.m. by Chalrman Goldenberg
and the pledge to the flag was led by Commlssloner Jessner.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chalrman Goldenberg
Commlssloners Jessner, Covlngton
Absent:
Perrln (Letter recelved from Com. Perrln requestlng
hlS absence be excused In March and Aprll, 1984 due
to dutles as volunteer flreflghter. Jessner moved to
accept request for excused absence, Covlngton seconded,
motlon unanlmously passed.
Murphy (Com. Murphy has moved from Seal Beach and wlll
be sendlng a letter of reslgnatlon to Clty Clerk.
Also present: John Baucke, Prlnclpal Planner
Larry Stlckney, Asslstant Clty Englneer
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COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 7, 1984
Covlngton moved, second by Jessner to approve mlnutes of March 7, 1984
as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Goldenberg, Jessner, Covlngton
None
Perrln, Murphy
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 5-84, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 83-1002, RESO-
LUTION NO'S. 1315 & 1316
ThlS publlc hearlng has been contlnued from the March 7th Commlsslon
meetlng. The orlglnal request, as presented In staff report by Mr. Baucke,
was for the converSlon of an eXlstlng duplex located at 127 Second
Street, lnto a two-unlt condomlnlum. The publlC hearlng was contlnued
to allow Englneerlng staff to further lnvestlgate the requlrement for
a separate water meter for each unlt In a condomlnlum converSlon.
Mr. Baucke provlded a survey of 13 cltles wlth regard to thelr condo
converSlon requlrements for separate utlllty meters, lncludlng water,
gas, electrlcal. Commlssloner Covlngton pOlnted out that 10 of the
13 cltles addressed requlred that all utllltles be separately metered.
Larry Stlckney, Asslstant Clty Englneer, presented the clarlflcatlon
of that partlcular sectlon of the Clty code as lt applles to condomlum
converSlon proJects. It was lndlcated that In the past the Clty had
Plann1ng Comm1ss1on M1nutes of March 21, 1984
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not requ1red condom1num converS1on proJects to 1nstall water meters
to serve each un1t, but when 1t was real1zed that C1ty ord1nances requ1red
separate water serV1ces for each property, 1t was then brought to the
Comm1ss1on's attent1on. Comm1ss1oner Jessner noted that pract1ce 1n
Hunt1ngton Beach was not to requ1re separate water meters, even though
1t had been 1nd1cated to staff that separate meters were requ1red.
Cha1rman Goldenberg 1nd1cated that the Comm1ss1oners were 1n rece1pt
of a letter from Charles Antos, Consultant, request1ng the sect10n
of the ord1nance requ1r1ng separate water meters be amended to read:
"No one serV1ce shall supply water to propert1es under separate owner-
Sh1P, except 1n the case of the converS1on of eX1st1ng rental un1ts
1nto condom1n1ums when the C1ty Eng1neer determ1nes that separate
meter1ng 1S not necessary or des1rable."
Mr. Goldenberg 1nd1cated that unt1l such t1me as any changes are made
to that ord1nance th1S 1S the only th1ng we have to go by here 1n the
C1ty of Seal Beach. Mr. St1ckney p01nted out that unt1l and/or 1f
changes are made 1n the eX1st1ng ord1nance, that a statement could
be put 1nto the €Ond1t1onal Use Perm1t that 1nd1v1dual water meters
are requ1red unless changes have been made 1n the C1ty'S ord1nance.
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Publ1C hear1ng opened.
Joyce Ross, 1109t Seal Way. Ms. Ross 1nd1cated that she also called
some of the ne1ghbor1ng c1t1es w1th regard to need for separate water
meters. In Hunt1ngton Beach, there had only been one condo converS1on
1n 1979, and that d1d not requ1re separate meters. The C1ty of Long
Beach has appl1cants f1ll out a wa1ver of hardsh1P, whereupon staff
determ1nes 1f 1t 1S acceptable, and no separate water meters are necessary.
Charles Antos, 316 lath Street, spoke 1n favor of th1S converS1on.
Also w1shed to prov1de add1t1onal 1nformat1on w1th regard to letter
request1ng ord1nance amendment. He 1nd1cated that the part1cular sect10n
of the ord1nance Wh1Ch dealt w1th separate water meters was adopted
1n 1955 and condom1n1um converS1ons d1d not come 1nto be1ng 1nto 1962.
He asked that the Comm1ss1on pass on a recommendat1on to Counc1l and
have staff look 1nto th1S sect10n of the ord1nance w1th some V1ew toward
amend1ng 1t.
Further d1Scuss1on ensued between Comm1ss1on and Mr. Antos, w1th regard
to cost of condom1n1um converS1on, the percentage of rental un1ts 1n
the downtown area that could not be converted due to park1ng problems
(85%), and the value of the rental un1ts after converS1on.
As no one spoke aga1nst the Cond1t1onal Use Perm1t, the publ1c hear1ng
was closed.
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Plannlng Commlsslon Mlnutes of March 21, 1984
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Res. 1315 & 1316
Commlssloner Jessner stated he was not In favor of the requlred separate
water meter as lt was an unnecessary hardshlP wlth regard to cost.
Commlssloner Covlngton stated that he felt the appl1cant had made an
excellent pOlnt regard1ng eXlstlng requlrements of th1S sect10n deal1ng
wlth water and how lt lS be1ng presently applled.
Cov1ngton moved to adopt, Goldenberg second.
Res. 1315
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Goldenberg, Covlngton, Jessner
None
Perr1n, Murphy
Motlon Carrled
Covlngton proposed that the Clty Councll reVlew the lssue of separate
meters for utllltles lncludlng water, and that they reVlew the concept
of converSlon of rental unlts to condos and that they determlne recom-
mendatlons elther by themselves or by authorlz1ng the Plann1ng Commlsslon
to hold publlc hearlngs on those pOlnts that they deem appropr1ate.
Jessner seconds, and motlon passed unanlmously.
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M1tZ1 Morton pOlnted out that
rental un1ts are gOlng to end
apartments wlll be for rent.
tenant a nlce apartment.
what w1ll eventually happen lS that deluxe
up belng converted to condos and old
You won't be able to offer a hlgh cal1ber
Res. 1316
Comm1ssoner Jessner moved to adopt resolut1on, Covlngton seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Goldenberg, Covlngton, Jessner
None
Perrln, Murphy
Motlon Carr1ed
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #14-83, RESOLUTION #1317
Staff report presented by Mr. Baucke who lndlcated that th1S same proposal
was before the Commlsslon In late 1983 whereupon lt was den1ed wlthout
preJud1ce so the appllcant could resubmlt the request as part of a
Planned Slgn Program for the ent1re Safeway Shopplng Center. Speclflcally,
the appl1cant lS requestlng to lower the eXlstlng lllegal nonconformlng
60' free-standlng center 1dentlflcatlon slgn to 22' WhlCh would be
7' hlgher than the 15' maXlmum permltted he1ght. Staff further 1ndlcated
that all leaseholders In the shopplng center had been contacted wlth
regard to conform1ng to Clty'S slgn program, but no response had occurred.
After notlflcatlon, cltat10n could then occur and posslbly court actlon
(up to C1ty Attorney).
Publlc hearlng opened.
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Harry Heldenr1ch, 593 Harvey Lane, Lakewood, representatlve of Coast
Property Management, Inc., owner of shopp1ng center. Stated that th1S
was not the same proposal as orlglnally brought before the Commlsslon.
Plannlng CommlSSlon Mlnutes of March 21, 1984
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Upon further dlScusslon wlth Commlssloner Covlngton, lt was then determlned
that thlS was the exact same proposal. The Commlsslon then asked, and
Mr. Heldenrelch agreed to resubmlt as so ordered by the Chalrman, a
Planned Slgn Program showlng where the proposed new slgns would be,
ldentlfYlng materlals, colors, free standlng dlmenslons or speclflcatlons
for the entlre Safeway Shopplng Center.
It was so ordered by the Chalrman, that thlS publlC hearlng be contlnued
untll Aprll 4th.
VARIANCE 3-84
Staff report presented regardlng the appllcant's request for maJor
addltlons to a legal nonconformlng duplex located at 1107, 1107A Seal
Way. The appllcant deslres to replace an eXlstlng 2-car garage wlth
a larger 2-car garage wlth an addltlon of a new second story famlly
room, wet bar, bathroom, washer/dryer area and deck wlth an exterlor
stalr, wlthout provldlng the requlred number of parklng spaces.
PubllC hearlng opened.
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John & Mary Szczerban, appllcants, stated that they deslred to lncrease
thelr llvlng space, have been owners for 20 years and could provlde
parklng on the apron of both garages Slnce they owned the adJacent
unlt. Wlth regard to posslblllty of converSlon to bachelor unlt, the
lntent was only to lncrease llvlng space. Had they wanted to make
a rental unlt, they would have done so when lt was legally posslble
to do so.
After some dlScusslon, the Commlssloners and staff and the appllcant
determlned that lf they do work on the request a llttle further and
wlth lmprovements to the plans, a request more In llne wlth Clty polley
could be reached. Mr. Goldenberg stated that lt must be understood
that nothlng that has been sald here lS a guarantee of approval when
the appllcants come before the Commlsslon agaln.
Mr. Baucke read a statement recelved by Robert SWltzer of 1110 Ocean
obJectlng to the varlance due to parklng problem.
Jessner moved to deny wlthout preJudlce, Covlngton seconds.
Res. #1318
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Goldenberg, Covlnton, Jessner
None
Perrln, Murphy
Motlon Carrled
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 4-83
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Staff read a memo from the Clty Manager asklng that thlS ltem be contlnued
so the Clty Manager and Clty Attorney can meet wlth representatlves
of the Dept. of Houslng and Cornmunlty Development to address the concerns
regardlng cabanas.
Plannlng Commlsslon Mlnutes of March 21, 1984
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Covlngton moved to contlnue, Jessner seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Goldenberg, Covlngton, Jessner
None
Perrln, Murphy
Motlon Carrled
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 1-84
Appllcant wlthdrew the request.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 2-84
Staff report lndlcates thlS lS a reVlew of a proposed second-story
cabana over the eXlstlng traller located at 22 Cottonwood lane.
Dean Scheele, 22 Cottonwood lane, the appllcant was avallable to answer
questlons. It was noted that the eXlt path of the traller lS shown
on the removal map.
Covlngton moved to approve, second by Jessner.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Goldenberg, Covlngton, Jessner
None
Perrln, Murphy
Motlon Carrled
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COMMISSION REQUESTS
Commlssloner Covlngton stated that he would llke the Chalrman of the
Plannlng Comrnlsslon by mlnute order to request staff from Clty Manager's
offlce to contact the State lands Commlsslon staff by letter, to be
followed by a phone call, to determlne what lS the status of the State
lands parcel.
He further stated that lf the Clty Manager's offlce deems lt approprlate
that thlS could be a formal request to the State lands Commlsslon to
have thlS placed on thelr agenda, so that they would be forced to respond.
It was Mr. Covlngton's feellng that thlS property has genulne potentlal
lncome for the Clty and should be pursued. Chalrman so moved by mlnute
order.
REPORT FROM SECRETARY
Staff presented a survey of speclflc plan uses of 11 cltles to the
Commlsslon. From thlS study, the Commlsslon could choose speclflcs
to be lncluded In future speclflc plans for the Clty.
Commlssloner Covlngton commended staff on research and asked that coples
be forwarded to the Councll and also back to partlclpatlng cltles.
ADJOURNMENT
Meetlng adJourned at 10:16 p.m.
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