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~EACH PLANNING COMMISSION AGENr
City Council Chambers
211 Elghth Street
Seal Beach, Callfornla
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The Seal Beach Plaruung Comnuss~on meets ~n sess~on every f~rst and th~rd Wednesday of each
month at 7.30 p.m. If you w~sh to address the Comnuss~on on any part~cular publ~c hear~ng
~tem, the Cha~rman w~ll call for pubhc testJ.mony fJ.rst for those J.n favor of the proJect,
and second, for those who are not J.n favor. When you see that the speaker's posJ.tJ.on J.n the
center of the room J.S unoccupJ.ed, step up to the nucrophone and when recognJ.zed by the
ChaJ.rman, speak dJ.rectly J.nto the nucrophone by fJ.rst statJ.ng your name and address clearly
and dJ.stJ.nctly for the records. State your busJ.ness as clearly and succJ.nctly as possJ.ble
and then waJ.t a moment to see J.f the Comm~sSJ.oners have any quest~ons J.n regard to your
comments or questJ.ons. If there are no other questJ.ons or comments, return to your seat
so that the next person may address the ComnussJ.on
If you wJ.sh to address the Comnuss~on on matters other than pub1J.c hearJ.ngs, the agenda
provJ.des for that tJ.me when the ChaJ.rman asks for comments from the publJ.c Address the
ComnussJ.on J.n the same manner as stated for publ~c hear~ngs, always statJ.ng your name and
address first.
APRIL 3, 1985
NEXT RESOLUTION #1365
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4.
Pledge of Alleglance
Roll Call
Report from Secretary
Consent Calendar
At thlS t1me, members of the publlc may present
testlmony to the Comm1sS1on as to why any ltem
should be removed from the consent calendar for
a full and separate publlc hear1ng. Unless a
Comm1ss10ner requests a full publlc hear1ng,
all consent agenda 1tems wlll be acted upon 1n
one summary vote.
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(A) M1nutes of March 6, 1985
(B) M1nutes of March 20,1985
Scheduled Matters
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The publlC may speak at the dlscret10n of the
Commlsslon.
(A) Study seSSlon State lands Spec1f1c Plan.
6. Comm1ss10n Requests
7. Oral Communlcatlon from the Audlence
8. Commlss10n Communlcatlons
9. AdJournment
Agenda Forecast.
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Aprll 17, 1985 - Cond1tlonal Use Perm1t 2-85
Mlchael Farrel B47 Surfslde
- Mlnor Helght Devlatlon 1-85
Doug Sheppard 119 12th Street.
Study seSS10n on Zonlng Text
Amendment 2-84 Non-conformlng
BU11d1ng Prov1s10ns.
May 1# 1985 Admlnlstratlve Appeal 1-85
Dan1el J. Redfeather
Var1ance 4-85
Tlny Naylor's - 941 Pac1f1c Coast H1ghway
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF
APRIL 3, 1985
The Seal Beach Plannlng Commlsslon met in reQular session at 7:37 p.m.
wlth Chalrman Jessner call1ng the meetlng to order. Commlssioner Ripperdan
lead the salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chalrman Jessner
Commlssloners: Hunt, Perrln, Ripperdan Covington (arrives
7:47 p.m.)
Absent: None
Also Present: John Baucke, Director of Development Services
Allen J. Parker, Clty Manager
REPORT FROM SECRETARY
Mr. Baucke, the Commisslon Secretary, lndicated that the Lohrke appeal
of CUP 1-85 and Varlance 2-85 has been wlthdrawn. Baucke also mentioned
that the Blxby Ranch Company has filed a Precise Plan for the Specific
Plan set for City Council actlon at the end of the month. He also noted
that Councll wl1l conslder the request for approval of plans and speclfications
and authorlzation to request bids for the restaurant at end of the pler
at the Aprl1 8th Councl1 meetlng. Mr. Baucke then presented a report
from the City Manager RE Hellman Property for thelr consideration. In
that report, lt was mentloned that approximately 40 acres have been deleted,
including the 15-acre park site, making the slte smaller than originally
approved. Along wlth that decrease in SlZe, the sales price has been
lncreased approximately 35%. Given those facts, along wlth other conslderations,
the need to further study the matter was requested. It was the City Manager's
oplnion that a 28% reductlon ln land and a 35% lncrease in prlce dictate
the project wl11 not be vlable wlthout a substantial lncrease ln density.
Therefore, the request was made to repeal the Hellman Speciflc Plan and
place the property in an O-E (Oil Extraction) Zone, its current land use.
This actlon would mandate a new speclfic plannlng process based on realistlc
market and planning cnteria. "
The City Manager, Mr. Allen Parker, was available for questions from the
Commlssion. He further stated that primarily due to the reduction of
the aval1able land, the lncrease in sales prlce and with new tax laws,
that thlS project would not "pencl1 out" without the developer coming
to the City for an increased density. He felt the problem was that the
Clty was ln a reactive posture, not proactlve. In order for Hellman to
consummate a sale, the developers come to the City for lncreased density.
He felt the price of that land ought to be on whatever zonlng and reuse
value the land has once the 011 productlon is gone. Hellman and their
attorneys and Coldwell Banker who put together the prospectus have never
come to the City and asked for input from the City. Parker also stated that
by rezonlng back to OE, it puts the developer ln the position of coming
to the Clty and asklng what we want. Parker lndicated there lS also some
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rethlnklng on the llquefactlon area. The thought was to take some of
the llquefactlon area and apply lt to the wetlands requlred by the Flsh
and Game, solvlng two purposes, l.e. the F1Sh & Game requlrement and the
expenSlve development of the llquefactlon area. Commlssloner Jessner
lnqulred whether Hellman could expand the 011 drllllng operatlon lf the
slte lS put back lnto OE zonlng. Parker responded that before any redrllllng
would occur, Hellman would need to go before Clty Councll In a publlc
hearlng process. He also dld not feel that rezonlng would put the Clty
In an lnverse condemnatlon posture because the total value of the propery
was not belng removed. The property lS currently used for 011 productlon
and the Clty would only be returnlng the zonlng to what lt lS. Parker
felt that resldentlal zonlng lS a prlvllege and that the owners of the
slte should negotlate wlth the Clty for that privllege.
Covlngton moves, second by Rlpperdan, to dlrect staff to take approprlate
steps to hold a publlc hearlng at the earllest tlme posslble on the lSSUe
of the repeal of zonlng of the Hellman property and to conslder rezonlng.
AYES:
NOES:
Covlngton, Hunt, Jessner, Perrln, Rlpperdan
None Motlon Carrled
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CONSENT CALENDAR - MINUTES OF 3/6/85 and 3/20/85
There were two ltems on the Consent calendar for the Commlsslon's conslderatlon,
l.e. the mlnutes of the regularly scheduled meetlngs of March 6, 1985
and March 20, 1985. CommlSSloner Rlpperdan moved, second by Commlsslon
Covlngton, to approve both sets of mlnutes as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Covlngton, Hunt, Jessner, Perrln, Rlpperdan
None Motlon Carrled
STUDY SESSION - STATE LANDS SPECIFIC PLAN
The Commlsslon Secretary, presented a draft of the State Lands Speclflc
Plan. He lndlcated that thlS draft had been prepared pursuant to the
dlrectlon of the Councll, that actlon resultlng from the JOlnt Plannlng
Commlsslon/Clty Councll Study Sesslon. Mr. Baucke explalned the draft
In detall to the Commlsslon from the Introductlon to the Development Standards
to the Requlred Submlttals.
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Mr. Allan E. Tebbetts, attorney representlng Ken Black and Charles Leggeman
of Fountaln Plaza Ltd. (the developers of the State Lands slte) asked
for clarlflcatlon on partlcular ltems, l.e. lf the Clty lS lnterested
In retall, restaurant, recreatlonal facllltles. Mr. Tebbetts felt that
the State would not allow the developer to dedlcate the streets to the
Clty. He also felt that the Speclal Requlrments requested by Clty should
be analyzed to see lf they were really necessary. Tebbetts also felt
that a scale model was a costly, non-effectlve tool and would llke that
requlrement restudled. In reply to a questlon from the audlence as to
who deflnes the character of Seal Beach, Mr. Baucke stated that In general,
the Plannlng Commlsslon, Clty Councll and staff would make that determlnatlon.
He also lndlcated that after gatherlng lnput from many sources In the
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commumty, the conceptual image of Seal Beach was of a "village" character,
and as such, there are certaln treatments with regard to architecture,
landscaplng and extenor design WhlCh would lend ltself more to a "vlllage"
character. Discusslon then ensued regardlng the maXlmum height of the
project. It was determlned that the 29*1 helght was done through a visual
analysls using photographs. The 29il measurement would begin from the
hlgh pOlnt of the brldge on Paciflc Coast Highway. Commisslon and Staff
dlscussed the fact that the proposed project, from ltS hlghest property elevatlon
wlll be less than 351 ln helght. It was also mentloned that the Oakwood
Apartments would be approxlmately 10 ft. lower than the proposed proJect.
Commisslon Rlpperdan expressed concern over adjacent propertles belng impacted
by proJect's height. Mr. Covington lndicated that he was an opponent to any
helghts of bUlldlng exceedlng 351, but that in this particular case, he could
percelve no problem as the slte is set much lower than Pacific Coast Hlghway
and would not lmpact any homeowners in the adjacent areas. The Commissloners,
Staff and the developer then dlscussed the types of restaurant operators. It
was determined that the Clty wlshed to have a restaurant that would be open
to the pbulic and that developer should take advantage of the view and allow for
a rooftop restaurant. The Commlsslon dlscussed llquefaction, landscaplng,
environmental reports, sewer system. Baucke indlcated that the next procedure
wlll be to send out RFP1s, to get an environmental consultant. The fee for
the consultant to perform an environmental analysls wlll be refunded by the
developer.
Mr. Covlngton moved, second by Perrln, to direct Staff to proceed in developlng
the crlteria for requestlng blds for enVlronmental analysis and determine whether
a hotel feaslbillty study should be made at the same time.
AYES:
NOES:
Covlngton, Hunt, Jessner, Perrln, Rlpperdan
None Motlon Carried
Mr. Baucke mentloned that representatives from Senator Marlan Bergeson's
offlce, Assemblyman Dennis Brown1s office and the State Lands Commlsslon
met wlth the Clty Manager at the slte to discuss cleanup operations of
the lllegal dumplng occurrlng there. The result was that through these
JOlnt efforts and use of the Californla Conservatlon Corps, the site would
be cleaned and fenced to preclude any further dumplng.
COMMISSION REQUEST
There were no Commlsslon requests.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no oral communlcatlons.
COMMISSION COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Commlsslon communlcatlons.
Mr. Baucke lndicated that a study session on ZTA 2-84 wlll be comlng up
on the April 17th meetlng. Some dlScusslon ensued regardlng mlnor height
devlatlons.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the concensus of the Commlsslon and so ordered by the Chair to
adJourn the regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commlssion at 9:50 p.m.
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