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SE,
,BEACH PLANNING COMmSSION AGEND~
Clty Councll Chambers
211 Elghth Street
Seal Beach, Ca11forn1a
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The Seal Beach Plann~ng Comnuss~on meets ~n sess~on every f~rst and th~rd Wednesday of each
month at 7:30 p m If you w~sh to address the Comm~ss~on on any part~cular publ~c hear~ng
~tem, the Cha~rman w~ll call for pubhc test~mony f~rst for those ~n favor of the proJect,
and second, for those who are not ~n favor When you see that the speaker' s pos~ t~on ~n the
center of the room ~s unoccup~ed, step up to the mcrophone and when recogn~zed by the
Cha~rman, speak d~rectly ~nto the mcrophone by f~rst stat~ng your name and address clearly
and d~st~nctly for the records State your bus~ness as clearly and succ~nctly as poss~ble
and then wa~t a moment to see ~f the Comnuss~oners have any quest~ons ~n regard to your
comments or quest~ons If there are no other quest~ons or comments, return to your seat
so that the next person may address the Comnuss~on
If you w~sh to address the Comnuss~on on matters other than publ~c hear~ngs, the agenda
prov~des for that t~me when the Cha~rman asks for comments from the publ~c Address the
Comnuss~on ~n the same manner as stated for publ~c hear~ngs, always stat~ng your name and
address f~rst.
SEPTEMBER 4, 1985
NEXT RESOLUTION #1395
1. Pledge of Alleglance
2. Roll Call
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3 Report from Secretary
4 Consent Calendar
At thlS tlme, members of the publlC may present
testlmony to the Comrnlsslon as to why any ltem
should be removed from the consent calendar for
a full and separate publlC hearlng Unless a
Comrnlssloner requests a full publlC hearlng, all
consent calendar ltems wlll be acted upon on one
summary vote.
A. Mlnutes of August 21, 1985
(Held over untll the September 18, 1985
Plannlng Comrnlsslon Meetlng)
5 PubllC Hearlngs
A. CONDITIONAL USE PE~~IT 16-85
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 85-267
1623 Seal Way (Greeley)
Resolutlon #1391, 1392
A request to convert an eXlstlng two-story duplex
lnto two condomlnlum unlts.
EnVlronmental Revlew The proJect lS cateqorlcally
exempt from Envlronmental Revlew [Callforn1a Pub11C
Resources Code 15301(1)(k)].
Code Sectlons 28-700(3)(b), 28-2503
Appllcant Charles Antos
Owner E Thomas and Josephlne Greely
VARIANCE 11-85 Resolut10n #1393
12241 Seal Beach Blvd. (Parasol Restaurant)
B.
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A request to allow an add1t10n to a restaurant
located ln a C-2 (General Commerc1al) Zone wlthout
provldlng the requlred landscaplng
Envlronmental Revlew The proJect lS categorlcally
exempt from Env1ronmental Revlew [Callfornla Govern-
ment Code Sectlon 15303(e)].
Code Sectlons 28-1402(6), 28-2407
Appllcant Zember Constructlon Co., Inc /Parasol
Restaurant
Owner Rossmoor Buslness Center
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PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
SEPTEMBER 4, 1985
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ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 7-85
Clty of Seal Beach
Resolutlon #1394
A request to allow accessory commerclal uses
for tenants only located wlthln the R-3 (Hlgh
Denslty Resldentlal) Zone
Envlronmental Revlew Negatlve Declaratlon
8-85 has been prepared In lleu of an Envlronmental
Impact Report
Appllcant Clty of Seal Beach
6. Scheduled Matters
The publlC may speak at the dlscretlon of the Commlsslon
7 Commlsslon Requests
8. Oral Communlcatlon from the Audlence
9 Commlsslon Communlcatlons
10 AdJournment
Agenda Forecast.
September 18, 1985
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-cup 17-85, VAR 13-85
Serge (216 Maln St )
-CUP 18-85
Coker (550 P.C.H., #109)
-CUP 11-85, VAR 7-85
Kayo 011 (16305 P.C.H )
-CUP 12-84
Calvln (500 P.CH.)
October 2, 1985
-VAR 12-85
Lucky Stores (12451 Seal
Bch. Blvd )
-Report on Non-Conformlnq
BUlldlng Dlsaster Prov
-ZTA 6-85
Dlstrlct III (Surfslde)
Provlslons for Non-
Conformlng BUlldlngs
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF
SEPTEMBER 4, 1985
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The Seal Beach Plann1ng Comm1ss1on met 1n regular seSS10n at 7:38 p.m.
w1th Cha1rman Jessner call1ng the meet1ng to order. Comm1ss1oner Perr1n
led the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Cha1rman Jessner
Comm1ss1oners: Cov1ngton, Hunt, Perr1n, R1pperdan
Absent:
None
Also Present:
Dana Ogdon, Adm1n1strat1ve A1de
REPORT FROM SECRETARY
Dana Ogdon, Adm1n1strat1ve A1de, 1nd1cated that there were no 1tems to
report. Mr. Ogdon noted that he would be tak1ng John Baucke's place at
ton1ght's meet1ng as Mr. Baucke was out of town and would be return1ng
on Monday, September 9, 1985.
CONSENT CALENDAR
There were no 1tems on the consent calendar fo\ the Comm1ss1on's cons1derat1on.
PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 16-85 - 1625 Seal Way
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 85-267
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Staff report, presented by Dana Ogdon, 1nd1cated that th1S 1tem was a
request to convert an eX1st1ng two-story duplex 1nto two condom1n1um un1ts.
Mr. Ogdon presented the facts related to the subJect property and gave
staff's recommendat1on on th1S 1tem w1th the cond1t1ons noted 1n the staff
report. He then made h1mself ava1lable to the Comm1ss1on for quest1ons.
Cha1rman Jessner declared the publ1C hear1ng open.
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Charles Antos, 316 10th Street, Seal Beach, represented the property owners,
E. Thomas and Joseph1ne Greely. Mr. Antos stated that he was prepared
to d1SCUSS all aspects of th1S converS1on w1th the Comm1ss1on 1f they
so wanted. He also spoke 1n reference to a sect10n of the Subd1v1s1on
Map Act of Cal1forn1a. Mr. Antos spoke 1n favor of th1S proJect and requested
that the Comm1ss1on approve th1S CUP as proposed.
Mr. Hunt asked 1f Mr. Antos was 1n agreement w1th Cond1t1ons #5 and #6
as proposed by staff. Mr. Antos was reluctant to agree w1th these cond1t1ons
and spoke 1n reference to other appl1cat1ons prev10usly brought before
the Comm1ss1on on slm1lar lssues. The Comm1ss1on, staff and the appl1cant
d1scussed Cond1t1on #6, the relocat1on of the washer/dryer so to allow
for the requ1red unobstructed park1ng depth of 40 feet. Mr. Antos 1nd1cated
that the washer/dryer was on a 3 - 4 ft. ra1sed platform. To comply w1th
staff's cond1t1on, a hookup would need to be prov1ded elsewhere. D1Scuss1on
cont1nued 1n reference to the storage cab1nets located above the washer/dryer
area and Mr. Jessner d1scussed w1th Mr. Antos the C1ty'S prOV1S1ons regard1ng
th1S. Mr. Jessner spoke 1n regards to the state's requ1rements of not1fY1ng
Plannlng Commlsslon Meetlng of September 4, 1984
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tenants about the converSlon and Mr. Antos lndlcated that he would be
wllllng to provlde reglstered return mall recelpts or the tenant's slgnatures.
Staff dlscussed wlth the Commlsslon past actlons taken by the Commlsslon
In approvlng or denYlng condomlnlum converSlon appllcatlons WhlCh were
non-conformlng due to the helght llmlt. Mr. Covlngton dlscussed wlth
Mr. Antos the preVlOUS actlons taken by the Clty durlng hlS term of employment
wlth the Clty of Seal Beach.
Mr. Antos lndlcated that the Clty has kept the same standards In reference
to parklng depth requlrements. He noted that larger cars were common
In the past when these requlrements were drafted, but now there were many
more compact vehlcles not belng taken lnto conslderatlon. In addltlon,
a posslble gas leak could go undetected In the garage, and there lS much
more avallable space lnslde the garage wlthout the washer/dryer. Mr.
Perrln concurred wlth Mr. Covlngton. Mr. Hunt stated that he dld not
feel comfortable asklng the homeowners to move thelr washer/dryers. Mr.
Jessner dlscussed wlth Mr. Antos the number of hookups at each unlt.
Mr. Antos lndlcated that there was one electrlc washer and one gas dryer
hookup at each unlt. Mr. Rlpperdan spoke In reference to the large dlnlng
rooms at each unlt and asked Mr. Antos lf lt would be posslble to use
a portlon of thlS avallable space to accomodate the washer/dryer. Mr.
Antos noted that there may be a problem on the second floor In runnlng
the plumblng.
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Mr. Hunt stated that lt lS posslble when a new owner moves lnto the unlt
they wlll relocate the washer/dryer back to the garage. Mr. Covlngton
stated that he planned to approve thlS appllcatlon based on staff's recommendatlon
that the washer/dryer be moved lnslde the home. Mr. Jessner dlscussed
the CC&R's pertalnlng to thlS appllcatlon wlth Mr. Antos.
Tom Greely, 1629 Seal Way, property owner, spoke In reference to what
landscape he had provlded for at the property. He also dlscussed the
washer/dryer locatlon wlth the Commlsslon and spoke on behalf of hlS tenants
and thelr feellngs on movlng the washer/dryer lnslde the home. He lndlcated
that lt was more practlcal to leave the washer/dryer In the garage, and
there was adequate space lnslde the garage as the washer/dryer was on
a ralsed portlon. In addltlon, Mr. Greely stated that lf the Commlsslon
approved staff's recommendatlon to relocate the washer/dryer, all new
constructlon In the Clty should have to meet thlS requlrement. Most people
would be unwllllng to glve up dlnlng area space to provlde for thelr washer/dryer,
thlS reduces the use of the property.
As no other members spoke In favor of nor In Opposltlon to thlS ltem,
Chalrman Jessner closed the publlC hearlng.
Mr. Perrln moved to approve Condltlonal Use Permlt 16-85 wlth all 6 condltlons
recommended by staff. Mr. Covlngton seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
Covlngton, Perrln
Hunt, Jessner, Rlpperdan
Motlon Denled
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Mr. Hunt moves to approve Condltlonal Use Permlt by adoptlon of Resolutlon
#1391 wlth the condltlons recommended by staff #1 - #4. Mr. Rlpperdan
seconds.
Plann1ng Comm1ss1on Meet1ng of September 4, 1985
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Mr. Perr1n stated that he d1d not agree that the Comm1ss1on should approve
th1S appl1cat1on w1thout the 1nclus1on of staff's Cond1t1on #6. He felt
that by d01ng so, a precedent was be1ng set, and he felt that a 40 ft.
depth requ1rement by Code should be met. Mr. Cov1ngton concurred w1th
Mr. Perr1n 1n reference to the washer/dryer relocat1on. Mr. Cov1ngton
felt that there was a safety hazard 1ssue here 1n that a person could
dr1ve 1nto the garage and h1t the dryer thus caus1ng an explos1on. He
felt that by approv1ng th1S appl1cat1on as proposed, the C1ty would be
mak1ng an except10n and th1S could be a maJor d1saster. The C1ty could
be llable for the overall publ1c health and safety.
Mr. Jessner felt that there wasn't really a safety 1ssue here. Most homes
1n Seal Beach have the washer/dryer 1n the garage. Mr. Cov1ngton stated
that most gas heaters are elevated and enclosed 1n slngle fam1ly garages.
The garages 1n th1S part1cular sltuat10n are tandem, and there 1S a greater
r1sk 1nvolved. Mr. Perr1n aga1n ment10ned that the Code requ1res a 40
ft. depth, and th1S cannot be d1sregarded. Mr. R1pperdan 1nd1cated that
a booklet wr1tten by a nat10nal organ1zat1on on park1ng had been glven
to each of the Comm1ss1on members, and the booklet d1d make recommendat1ons
on park1ng 1nclud1ng that the smaller cars meant smaller park1ng stalls
and smaller park1ng lots. Mr. Cov1ngton aga1n rem1nded the Comm1ss1on
that the 1ssue here was tandem park1ng. He felt that 1f appl1cat1ons
such as th1S one had been approved 1n the past as an overs1te, the sltuat10n
should be corrected now.
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Charles Antos, spoke 1n reference to stat1st1cs prov1ded by staff 1n the
staff report regard1ng the number of un1ts hav1ng washer/dryers at the
head of the garage. Mr. Hunt stated that he was 1n agreement w1th Mr.
Greely and what he was propos1ng to do w1th th1S property. Mr. Jessner
1nd1cated that he would V1ew th1S appl1cat1on d1fferently 1f the eX1st1ng
sltuat10n d1d not eX1st w1th regard to separate fac1l1t1es for each un1t.
If 1t was Just a common slngle washer/dryer sltuat1on, he would agree
that we re-evaluate what act10n was taken 1n the past, and 1t would now
be v1ewed d1fferently.
Cha1rman Jessner requested the Comm1ss1on Secretary to restate the mot1on
made by Mr. Hunt. Mr. Ogdon restated the mot1on as follows:
Mr. Hunt moved to approve Cond1t1onal Use Perm1t 16-85 by the adopt1on
of Resolut1on #1391, A RESOLUTION OF THE SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 16-85 FOR THE CONVERSION OF A DUPLEX
INTO A TWO UNIT CONDOMINIUM, w1th cond1t1ons recommended by staff #1-#4.
Mr. R1pperdan seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
Hunt, Jessner, R1pperdan
Cov1ngton, Perr1n
Mot1on Carned
Mr. R1pperdan moves to approve Tentat1ve Parcel Map 85-267 by adopt1on
of Resolut1on #1392, A RESOLUTION OF THE SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 85-267 (1619
Seal Way), as recommended by staff. Mr. Hunt seconds.
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AYES:
NOES:
Hunt, Jessner, R1pperdan
Cov1ngton, Perr1n
Mot1on Carr1ed
Plannlng Commlsslon Meetlng of September 4, 1985
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PUBLIC HEARING - VARIANCE 11-85 - 12241 Seal Beach Blvd.
Mr. Ogdon presented the staff report for thlS ltem lndlcatlng that lt
was a request to allow an addltlon to a restaurant located In a C-2 (General
Commerclal) Zone wlthout provldlng the requlred landscape. Mr. Ogdon
presented an lnformatlon sheet to the Commlsslon provldlng the landscape
requlrements for the Rossmoor Buslness Center. He then presented the
facts relatlng to the subJect property and gave staff's recommendatlon
wlth the condltlons as noted In the staff report.
Mr. Perrln dlscussed wlth Mr. Ogdon the Parasol Restaurant slgnage lndlcatlng
that the restaurant does have a pylon slgn WhlCh they have agreed to take
down. Thls would be dealt wlth as a separate lssue.
Chalrman Jessner declares the publlC hearlng now open.
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Blll Stevenson, Zember Constructlon, 10575 Bloomfleld Ave., Los Alamltos,
appllcant for thlS ltem, spoke In reference to the large amount of follage
surroundlng the restaurant. The Commlssloners dlscussed wlth the appllcant
the overall plans for the remodel of the Parasol Restaurant. Mr. Stevenson
presented an archltectural renderlng to the Commlsslon for thelr reVlew.
Mr. Jessner dlscussed rear flre and safety access shown on the plans wlth
Mr. Stevenson. Mr. Jessner asked staff lf the square footage had been
calculated as to how much landscape area would be removed by thlS remodel.
Mr. Ogdon lndlcated lt was 980 sq. ft. and that lf all the landscaplng
abuttlng the property could be an attrlbutlng factor, the appllcant would
be lacklng approxlmately 400 sq. ft. of landscape.
It was Mr. Jessner's oplnlon that lt would be helpful for Mr. Stevenson
to spend some addltlonal tlme worklng wlth staff to dlSCUSS the landscaplng
due to the fact that some of the materlal presented tonlght had not been
prevlously revlewed by the appllcant. Mr. Hunt asked lf the Parasol or
Zember had any control over the landscape outslde of thelr own area.
Mr. Covlngton lndlcated that both partles would beneflt from the other's
lnterest and actlvltles. Mr. Hunt noted that the plans showed that there
dld not seem to be any more room around the Parasol for addltlonal landscape.
It was Mr. Covlngton's oplnlon that by not provldlng the addltlonal landscape
elsewhere In the Center, the landscaplng would fall behlnd, what was belng
removed should be substltuted elsewhere. Mr. Rlpperdan questloned staff
as to how much landscaplng was In front of the property abuttlng Seal
Beach Blvd. Mr. Ogdon lndlcated approxlmately 8-10 ft. Mr. Covlngton
questloned the appllcant as to whether or not the Parasol pays for any
of the malntenance of the landscaplng. Mr. Stevenson lndlcated that lt
was hlS understandlng that they dld pay for the lmmedlate area surroundlng
the restaurant. Mr. Hunt concluded that lt seemed the P~rasol wlll eventually
be encapsulated by landscaplng, and would have to landscape another area of the
Rossmoor Buslness Center In order to provlde the requlred landscaplng.
It was Chalrman Jessner's recommendatlon that thlS publlc hearlng be contlnued
to the October 2, 1985 Plannlng Commlsslon meetlng so that staff can reVlew
the landscape requlrements wlth the appllcant In more detall. Mr. Covlngton
concurred wlth Mr. Jessner and felt that the landlord should slgn the
appllcatlon and the appllcant should brlng thlS back before the Commlsslon.
Mr. Jessner noted that he would llke to see how Tlny Naylor's appeal to
the Clty Councll was dealt wlth Slnce lt lS a slmllar sltuatlon to the
Parasol Restaurant. Mr. Hunt agreed that a statement would be needed
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Plann1ng Comm1ss1on Meet1ng of September 4, 1985
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from both the landlord and the appl1cant. Mr. R1pperdan concurred w1th
the other Comm1ss1on members that th1S 1tem be cont1nued.
Mr. Cov1ngton moves to cont1nue th1S publ1c hear1ng for Var1ance 11-85
to the October 2, 1985 Plann1ng Comm1ss1on meet1ng. Mr. R1pperdan seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
Cov1ngton, Hunt, Jessner, Perr1n, R1pperdan
None Mot1on Carr1ed to Cont1nue
PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT - 7-85
Dana Ogdon presented the staff report for th1S 1tem glv1ng a br1ef background
deta1l1ng the or1g1n of th1S Zon1ng Text Amendment. He gave staff's recommendat1on
to approve th1S 1tem w1th the word1ng and cond1t1ons as noted 1n the staff
report. Mr. Ogdon then made h1mself ava1lable to the Comm1ss1on for any
quest1ons.
Mr. Cov1ngton d1scussed w1th staff Sect10n 28-800 - Perm1tted Uses (3)(e)
and th1S sect10n of the Code's relat1onsh1p to the uther uses a,b,c, and
subJect to lssuance of a Cond1t1onal Use Perm1t. Mr. Cov1ngton felt
that (e) should be re-worded to: "Res1dent1al complexes of 50 un1ts or
more where assessory commerc1al uses would be perm1tted subJect to the
follow1ng cond1t1ons and llm1tat1ons:". Mr. R1pperdan concurred w1th
Mr. Cov1ngton.
Mr. Jessner declared the publ1C hear1ng open.
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Charles Antos, 316 10th St., Seal Beach spoke 1n reference to Sect10n
28-800 (3)(e)(6) stat1ng that 1t was h1S understand1ng that th1S cond1t1on
would exempt the proJect because the Oakwood Apartment slte lS d1rectly
across from the Mar1na Palace slte on Pac1f1c Coast Hwy. wh1ch lS zoned
commerc1al, and therefore, due to the 500 ft. m1n1mum requ1rement, they
could not apply for a Cond1t1onal Use Perm1t.
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As no other members of the aud1ence spoke 1n favor of nor 1n Oppos1t1on
to th1S 1tem, Cha1rman Jessner c~osed the publ1C hear1ng.
Mr. Jessner and Mr. R1pperdan d1scussed w1th staff the poss1b1l1ty of
the appl1cant request1ng more than 1 10cat1on on th1S slte, and whether
or not vend1ng mach1nes and/or v1deo games would be perm1tted. Mr. Ogdon
1nd1cated that these mach1nes are pract1cally all perm1tted on commerc1al
propert1es and that a Seal Beach C1ty Bus1ness L1cense would be requ1red.
Mr. Jessner ment10ned that under the current gU1del1nes, vend1ng mach1nes
would not be perm1tted on the Oakwood Apartment slte because 1t lS zoned
res1dent1al. Mr. Jessner also d1scussed the act1v1t1es of the pro-shop
glvlng tenn1S lessons. The Comm1ss1oners d1scussed Sect10n 28-800 (3)(e)(9)
1n reference to reta1~sales and what lS perm1tted on the property. Mr.
Ogdon 1nd1cated that the Oakwood Apartments are asklng to be able to sell
soft dr1nks and sandwlches. Mr. Jessner 1nd1cated that he would llke
to see a procedure set up for appl1cat1ons such as th1S so that 1t may
be followed 1n future appl1cat1ons. Mr. Hunt stated that he would llke
to hear more d1Scuss1on on th1S 1tem and felt 1t should be cont1nued.
Mr. Cov1ngton was 1n agreement w1th both Mr. Jessner and Mr. Hunt and
recommended that staff reV1ew Sect10n 28-800 (3)(e)(5) and amend Sect10n
28-800 (e) to read as follows: "Res1dent1al complexes of 50 un1ts or
more shall be perm1tted assessory commerc1al uses subJect to the follow1ng
Plannlng CommlSSlon Meetlng of September 4, 1985
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condltlons and llmltatlons:", and In addltlon, deflne In more speclflc
terms as to what those condltlons are. Mr. Jessner lndlcated that he
would llke to hear more dlScusslon as to why 50 unlts was belng used here.
Mr. Rlpperdan lndlcated that he dld not feel there was any problem wlth
havlng vendlng machlnes on the property. Mr. Covlngton also suggested
to staff that an addltlonal condltlon be added as follows: "That a valld
Clty Buslness Llcense shall be obtalned for all operatlons.".
Mr. Rlpperdan moved to contlnue the publlc hearlng for Zonlng Text Amendment
7-85 to the September 18, 1985 Plannlng Commlsslon meetlng. Mr. Covlngton
seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
Covlngton, Hunt, Jessner, Perrln, Rlpperdan
None Motlon Carrled to Contlnue
SCHEDULED MATTERS
There were no scheduled matters for the Commlsslon's conslderatlon.
COMMISSION REQUESTS
There were no Commlsslon Requests.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communlcatlons.
COMMISSION COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Commlsslon Communlcatlons.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the concensus of the Commlsslon and so dlrected by Chalr to adJourn
the regularly scheduled meetlng of the Plannlng Commlsslon at 10:15 p.m.
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