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City Council Chambers
211 Eighth Street
Seal Beach, California
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The Seal Beach Planning C011I11Iission meets in session every first and third Wednesday of each
month at 7:30 p.m. If you wish to address the Commission on any particular public hearing
item, the Chairman will call for public testimony first for those in favor of the project,
and second, for those ",ho are not in favor. When you see that the speaker's posi tion in the
center of the room is unoccupied, step up to the m1crophone and ",hen recognized by the
Chairman, speak directly into the m1crophone by first stating your name and address clearly
and distinctly for the records. State your business as clearly and succinctly as possible
and then ",ait a moment to see if the Commissioners have any questions in regard to your
comments or questions. If there are no other questions or comments, return to your seat
so that the next person may address the Comm1ssion.
If you ",ish to address the Commission on matters other than public hearings, the agenda
provides for that time ",hen the Chairman asks for comments from the public. Address the
Commission in the same manner as stated for public hearings, al",ays stating your name and
address first.
MAY 14. 1986 Xext Resolution #1422
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Variance 7-86
Cox - 211 15th St.
Plan Revie~ 14-86
E. K. Huotari - 225 10th St.
Seal Beach BId. Master
Improvement Plan
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Wackerman - 1729 Bayou Way
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MAY 14, 1986
The Planning Commission met in regular adjourned session
at 7:30 p.m. with Chairman Jessner calling the meeting
to order. Commissioner Ripperdan led the Salute to the
Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Jessner
Commission Members Covington, Hunt, Ripperdan
Absent:
Commission Member Perrin
Also present: Mr. Baucke, Director of Development Services
Mr. Stepanicich, City Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
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REPORT FROM SECRETARY
The Director stated there were no items to report at this
time.
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CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEM "A"
PLAN REVIEW 16-86 - ROCKWELL
Chairman Jessner stated he would remove himself from
consideration of this item as he is an employee of Rockwell
International. The Director presented the staff report,
indicating that Rockwell has requested the use of up to
twenty temporary cargo storage containers pending the
completion of their 21,600 square foot permanent Plant
Services storage building anticipated to be completed by
January, 1987. The Director stated the request is in
compliance with the adopted Zoning Text Amendment 11-85
regulating such structures, and reported the staff would
recommend approval of Plan Review 16-86 with the five
conditions set forth in the staff report. Mr. Robert Taylor,
Supervisor of Facilities for Rockwell, Seal Beach, responded
to questions posed by the Commission. The Director clarified
that the Rockwell project is not a subject of Commission
consideration, the project being in compliance with City
Code and requiring only staff approval prior to submittal
to the Coastal Commission, the item under consideration
being the requested temporary structures pending completion
of Rockwell's permanent facilities.
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Hunt moved, second by Ripperdan, to approve the recommended
action for Plan Review 16-86 with the conditions as proposed
by staff.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Ripperdan
None
Jessner
Perrin
Motion carried
SCHEDULED MATTERS
STUDY SESSION - ALCOHOL PROVISIONS
with regard to the existing provisions for alcohol within
the City Code and the moratorium placed on new alcohol
permits within the City, the Director reported that all
of the background information and previous testimony had
been provided the Commission for their information and
discussion, requesting that the Commission give direction
to staff as to what changes, if any, should be drafted
into a Zoning Text Amendment relat~ng to this matter.
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Discussion commenced with regard to one-day alcoholic beverage
permits. The City Clerk described the procedure for
processing special activity permits which occasionally
includes a one-day alcohol permit. The City Attorney
explained that when a special activity request includes
the sale of alcoholic beverages, the ABC handles the issuance
of the one-day permit which is within their statutory
authority, and that there is no requirement that the ABC
refer that permit to the local agency, although the Los
Angeles and Orange County agencies, as a local pOlicy,
contact the local Police Department to determine if there
is any problem with its issuance. Noting the lack of time
for public notification and participation in the review
of one-day permits, Commissioner Covington asked if a posting
procedure could be established for public awareness. It
was again noted that the Police Department is contacted
with regard to each one-day permit request, also that a
one-day permit would not necessarily fall under a special
activity request.
Chairman Jessner invited public comment with regard to
this discussion. Mr. Charles Antos, 316 - lOth Street,
suggested that present policy be revised to require new
businesses to operate for a period of at least one year
prior to applying for an alcoholic beverage permit, and
any approval designated for a specific period of time with
subsequent review, thus allowing adequate time to monitor
the business and its operation for compliance with any
conditions imposed. Mr. Antos expressed his feeling that
no intensification of use should be allowed without complying
with parking requirements. He also stated his objection
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to alcoholic beverage consumption at community activities,
and referred to the inability of the ABC and Police Department
to cite violations unless they are observed by those agencies.
Commission members noted the reference to the Christmas
parade, advising that the parade was not relevant to the
subject of discussion. Mr. Bruce Stark, 204 Ocean, suggested
that a limit be placed on the number of liquor licenses
that are to be allowed, specifically in the Old Town area,
questioning the benefit to the City of more restaurants
and/or drinking establishments, and cited the proximity
of those establishments to residential properties. Mr.
Stark referred to complaints observed and reported with
regard to violations in the vicinity of local establishments,
such as loitering, sales to minors, litter, noise, etc.,
stating those complaints have not been taken into
consideration. The Commission advised that it had been
suggested that complaints be filed in writing with the
ABC, Health Department, or City staff. In response to
the Commission, Mr. Stark responded that he did not have
a problem with markets dispensing liquor, nor did he have
a complaint with most of the existing restaurants, only
specific establishments in the area of Main Street, reporting
several violation problems in recent weeks at Main Street
bars, and stated his concern with the type of tourist that
is being attracted tO,the community. The Director reported
the bars located in the downtown area, as well as the liquor
stores and several restaurants within the City, do not
operate under a Conditional Use Permit as they were
established prior to adoption of those approval procedures,
and that those licenses fall under ABC jurisdiction. He
also noted that recent establishments within one hundred
feet of a residential zone have been required to come before
the Commission for a CUP. With regard to a question posed
regarding the Nuisance Ordinance, the City Attorney advised
that that Ordinance is directed to the deterioration of
property and substandard buildings, and that substantial
documentation of a serious, on-going problem would be
necessary for the City to close down a business. He explained
that businesses that were established prior to CUP requirements
are non-conforming uses that could continue indefinitely,
however it would be possible to implement a grandfather
clause for those non-conforming uses and require those
businesses to ultimately obtain a CUP provided however
that a reasonable amortization period is established.
Mr. Stark again stated his desire to limit liquor permits
to what now exists. Mr. Antos referred to complaints he
had passed on to the ABC, which he stated there is no record
of, and suggested a formal complaint procedure be established.
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Discussion continued regarding the current procedure for
compiling complaint data by the Police Department. Mr.
LeRoy Brown, 705 Ocean Avenue, referred to communications
from the Police Department relating to crime statistics
which he felt were contradictory. Mr. Brown suggested
that current regulations be changed to require the issuance
of all liquor licenses through a CUP process, and that
on-sale establishments be regulated by specific census
tract, by population, and hours of operation, which would
alleviate the problem of a restaurant becoming a bar after
a specific hour. Norma Stromeyer, Seal Beach Boulevard,
spoke regarding complaints of alcohol violations during
the Christmas parade, and at various downtown establishments,
stating she did not feel the Commission was taking those
complaints into consideration. Michelle Brendel, 204 Ocean,
complained that testimony regarding violations involvlng
several establishments in the downtown area have not been
taken into consideration, also that there is a lack of
enforcement of those violations. The City Attorney advised
that with respect to enforcement of State regulations
regarding the sale of alcohol, the ABC does site upon
observation of the violation taking place. With regard
to testimony or evidence at a public hearing when taking
action to revoke or deny a CUP for a liquor establishment,
he advised that such action would necessitate substantial
evidence, however that evidence could be in the form of
sworn testimony of citizens who have observed problems
at the specific establishment. He noted that historically
in Seal Beach sworn testimony has been optional. In response
to the Commission, the City Attorney confirmed that before
the Police Department can site for a perceived violation,
they must be present and witness an offense, and also advised
that the Health Department would have the jurisdiction
over open windows and lack of screens, as had been reported
at Hennessey's. Discussion continued. Ms. Brendel requested
to submit sworn testimony regarding her observations at
Hennessey's; Chairman Jessner advised that such testimony
would be appropriate under Oral Communications. With regard
to procedures for handling complaints, the Director reported
written and phone complaints are investigated, first and
second notices are transmitted in an attempt to bring a
situation into compliance, and if noncompliance continues,
the next action, with regard to CUP violations would be
a revocation process, stating that violation of other
Municipal Code statutes are transmitted to the City Attorney
for prosecution. He reported that the window screen
complaints at Hennessey's have been referred to the Health
Department. Chairman Jessner declared the public discussion
closed.
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The Commission agreed to submit their individual
recommendations relating to revision of existing alcohol
provisions, concluding with a consensus opinion on each.
Commissioner Ripperdan recommended that 1) a Conditional
Use Permit be required for all on-sale and off-sale liquor
licenses, including beer and wine; 2) that the Conditional
Use Permit application fee be raised and made nonrefundable;
3) that liquor sales be allowed only in C-l and C-2 zones;
4) one-day permits should be submitted to and approved
by the City Clerk; 5) that notice of one-day permits be
posted by the Police Department two weeks prior to the
event; 6) that a liquor license should be denied if a ratio
of on or off sale in a given reporting district or census
district exceeds the ratio of the County; 7) that a license
should be denied if the crime rate of a given reporting
district or census tract exceeds the ratio of the County;
8) that the Planning Commission could require special security
when it is deemed warranted in an establishment; and 9)
that a grandfather clause be enacted for existing liquor
establishments, with a Conditional Use Permit required
within two years. Mr. Ripperdan stated he had not addressed
the issue of distance from a residential zone, noting that
many liquor licenses exist on Main Street within one hundred
feet of residential properties, and given the variables
that could be considered in calculating the actual alcoholic
beverage consumption area from a residence. Staff clarified
that the distance is measured from the property line.
With regard to establishing an amortization period for
existing liquor establishments that would be required to
be approved under the CUP process, the City Attorney advised
that specific standards would need to be established, taking
into consideration a reasonable period of time for that
property owner to recover their investment, which would
then preclude any claim that property rights were being
taken away should that business be denied under the CUP
process. He noted that certain rights would also be
associated with a business that had been approved under
a prior CUP with different regulations than currently exist.
The Commission indicated their intent would be to require
that all liquor establishments be approved through the
CUP process and operate under the same regulations.
Commissioner Hunt stated that if an alcohol license problem
does in fact exist, regulations should possibly be specific
to a designated geographic area. with regard to license
ratios, the City Attorney explained that there is an ABC
standard on a County basis of one license per two thousand
persons, stating he would have concern with any attempt
to place a limit on the number of permits which could be
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issued, citing possible anti-trust implications, suggesting
however that the City does have the power to restrict such
uses to a specific zoning designation, as well as a distance
requirement between residential and liquor establishments.
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Commissioner Covington asked that one-day permits also
be limited to commercially zoned land. The City Attorney
advised that restriction of alcohol to specifically zoned
land may want to be expanded to include properties under
a Specific Plan designation in view of the potential hotel
developments. With respect to one-day permits, he advised
that since they are under the jurisdiction of the ABC as
prescribed by State law, it may not be possible to restrict
their issuance to commercial zones, however suggested that
the Commission could recommend that a public posting procedure
be established for special activity permits, or the Commission
could adopt a policy and request that the issuance of one-
day permits in residential zones be prohibited. He noted
that it would be within the discretion of the ABC whether
or not to honor such policy, also that a determination
by the ABC to issue a one-day permit would prevail over
any City disapproval. Commissioner Ripperdan stated he
did not feel such restriction should be placed in residential
zones. Commissioner Covington suggested consideration
of 1) a requirement for more parking spaces for establishments
that serve or sell liquor, and 2) an equitable way to
establish a proper distance of such establishments from
residential properties, other than property line to property
line, while keeping in mind the interest of those businesses
that presently exist. Chairman Jessner suggested a discussion
relating to enforcement problems, and transmittal of
complaints to the Commission upon reaching an established
number. Discussion continued regarding the procedure that
would be followed leading to a Zoning Text Amendment on
this subject, staff explaining that finalized wording of
the Commission's action will be prepared for further
consideration at the May 21st meeting. Commissioner Hunt
recommended that the moratorium on liquor licenses be lifted
at the earliest possible time.
The Commission agreed to consider and take separate action
on each of the recommendations, and requested that the
staff comment on any or all recommendations.
Number One: Require a Conditional Use Permit for all on-
sale and off-sale alcohol licenses, including beer and
wine. Staff supported this recommendation, however suggested
that no condition be placed on location or distance, and
that one-day permits not be included.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
None
Perrin Recommendation approved
Number Two: Raise the Conditional Use Permit application
fee, and that it be nonrefundable. Staff noted that pursuant
to law, the fee can not exceed the cost of processing,
however the current administrative cost is much greater
than the fee imposed, that the staff could document the
actual costs and make a recommendation for an appropriate
fee, also recommended that the fee be uniform with no
distinction between the categories of beer, beer and wine,
and distilled spirits. With regard to construction CUP's,
the Director noted that many agencies make a distinction
between the various types of construction applications,
suggesting that the Commission may wish to recommend that
the Council adjust the fee structure to more realistically
match the actual cost of processing. The Commission
recommended that the fee for processing a liquor CUP be
reflective of the actual cost of processing.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
None
Perrin Recommendation approved
Number Three: That liquor sales be limited to particular
zones, specifically C-I, C-2, SPR, and PLU zones.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Ripperdan
Hunt
Perrin Recommendation approved
Staff explained that current Code requires alcohol.
establishments to be located in a C-I or C-2 zone, and
presently a CUP could not be granted on SPR or PLU lands,
however such use may be determined to be desirable in the
future.
It was the unanimous consensus of the Commission to reconsider
the vote on Recommendation Three.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
None
Perrin Recommendation approved
Numbers Four and Five: That one-day permits requested
in conjunction with a special activity request should be
publicly posted by the City Clerk or the Police Department.
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The City Attorney again stated that if there is concern
with one-day permits in residential areas, the City could
recommend a policy to the ABC that such permits not be
issued in residential zones, although noted that the ABC
may not honor such policy, and also that there is no
requirement on the part of the ABC that the City be notified
upon issuance of a one-day permit. A suggestion of the
Commission was that upon Police Department contact by the
ABC that pertinent information relating to the special
event be posted for public information, also that it be
forwarded to the Planning Department and City Clerk. The
Clerk clarified that at the present time the Planning
Department is not involved in activity request review,
however the City Manager is the ultimate approval authority.
The Commission suggested that the feasibility of such
notification should be considered.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Ripperdan
Hunt
Perrin Recommendation approved
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Numbers Six and Seven: Deny a license request if the ratio
of on and off-sale in a given reporting district or census
tract exceeds the County ratio as a whole, and the same
as it applies to crime rates. Noting that the City Attorney
had advised against a restriction based upon ratios, the
Director suggested that if such restriction is ever considered,
that it be done on the basis of similar geographic locations,
beach communities, similarity of numbers, etc.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
None
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
Perrin Recommendation failed
Number Eight: Require special security when warranted
for any given establishment. The Director advised that
a number of other cities impose a condition for special
security procedures when deemed appropriate. The City
Attorney advised that the Planning Commission presently
has the authority to impose special security conditions
as part of the CUP approval process on a case by case basis.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
None
Perrin Recommendation approved
Number Nine: Amortization clause for existing liquor
establishments, requiring approval under the Conditional
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Use Permit process within a specified period of time.
Staff expressed support for an amortization period, noting
that at the present time the City has no jurisdiction over
those establishments operating without a CUP except through
the ABC. The City. Attorney advised that an amortization
period should be one that will be legally sustainable.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
None
Perrin Recommendation approved
Number Ten: That a specific distance between liquor
establishments and residential properties be established.
Staff indicated they would recommend against establishing
a distance requirement since each application will be dealt
with individually and be required to obtain a CUP, as set
forth in the first recommendation. Discussion followed.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Hunt
Covington, Jessner, Ripperdan
Perrin Recommendation failed
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Number Eleven: That perceived alcohol license problem
area(s) be defined by geographic location (overlay zone).
Staff pointed out the intention that each application be
considered on a case by case basis, therefore should be
applied citywide.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
None
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
Perrin Recommendation failed
Number Twelve: Requirement for more parking spaces for
establishments that serve or sell alcohol versus those
that do not. Staff stated that no distinction has been
shown that would verify more intensive parking use for
establishments that serve alcohol and those that do not,
therefore unless such facts could be verified, staff could
not support this recommendation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington
Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
Perrin Recommendation failed
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Number Thirteen: At the discretion and judgment of the
Director, report complaints and/or problems relating to
an establishment to the Commission, determined upon the
number and nature thereof. The Director advised that
complaints that are received or observed are on permanent
file in the Department.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
None
Perrin Recommendation approved
Number Fourteen: Enforcement. Staff noted that there
is a lack of personnel to effectively enforce provisions
of the Municipal Code, noting that Code Enforcement has
been recommended in the budget, however deleted. The
Commission indicated their desire to recommend that the
Council take under consideration the matter of Code
Enforcement.
with regard to law enforcement, the Commission requested
adequate law enforcement to respond to violations as a
situation arises, over and above violations of conditions
imposed by the Commission, and also clarified their intent
to recommend to the City Council that there be strict
enforcement of these recommended provisions should they
be adopted.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Hunt, Jessner, Ripperdan
None
Perrin Recommendation approved
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Number Fifteen: Based upon the staff explanation that
the Commission's report regarding alcohol provisions would
be forwarded to the Council within the required time frame,
the recommendation that the Council lift the moratorium
pending receipt of said report was withdrawn.
Number Sixteen: That a City pOlicy be recommended to the
ABC that one-day permits should not be issued for special
activities in residential zones. The City Attorney noted
that such special activities would involve the sale or
other consideration paid for alcoholic beverages under
the one-day permit.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner
Hunt, Ripperdan
Perrin
Recommendation failed
COMMISSION REQUESTS
Chairman Jessner reported he had obtained a copy of Planning
Commission hearing procedures from another city and requested
that the staff prepare draft guidelines to apply to this
Commission for consideration, and if approved, be pUblished
with each agenda. The request was approved by unanimous
consent of the Commission.
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Commissioner Hunt reported he had submitted his written
resignation from the Planning Commission to Chairman Jessner.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Jessner" declared Oral Communications open. Michelle
Brendel, 204 Ocean Avenue, was duly sworn by the Clerk,
as requested. Ms. Brendel reported that on this date she
had left this Commission meeting and went to Hennessey's
at which time the two window screens to the south of the
front door were not in place, stating that has been the
case for the past week, with four of the five screens off
the past Saturday evening, and the windows generally open.
She noted that no window was open this evening and no banner
was hung, however a banner had been in place earlier on
this day, with two different banners hung during the week.
Ms. Brendel stated she had been informed only one anniversary
banner had received City approval. With regard to the
previous discussion, Ms. Brendel asked that reporting of
complaints to the Commission also include those made directly
to the Commission. With regard to the Department of Water
and Power property, the Director reported that work being
done on that site is under a demolition permit to remove
substructure of the prior plant, to be replaced with good
soil and the site put into marketable condition. He reported
the DWP had stated they were preparing to seek proposals
for development of the site, after which a developer will
be selected, and subsequently precise development plans
submitted. With regard to in-lieu parking, the Director
reported that the City Manager has indicated that he would
be looking into that matter. Mr. Baucke reported that
he is compiling a list of various projects, reviews and
inquiries that the Planning Commission has requested, for
the information of the new Director. There being no other
communications, Chairman Jessner declared Oral Communications
closed.
COMMISSION COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Jessner read a letter from the City Clerk to Mr.
Hunt confirming the City Council's acceptance of his
resignation from the Planning Commission, also a letter
from Mr. Hunt to the Commission regarding same. Members
of the Commission expressed their appreciation to Mr. Hunt
for his time, effort and contribution to the Planning
Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
By unanimous consent of the Commission present, the meeting
was adjourned at 12:02 a.m.
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THESE ARE TENTATIVE MINUTES ONLY, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL
OF THE SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION.
Planning Commission Minutes Approved