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SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
Clty Councll Chambers
211 Efghth Street
Seal Beach. Calffornfa
2'he Seal Beach Planning C01l1llli.ssion meets in session every first and third Jiednesday of each
IIIOnth at 7:30 p~m. If !Iou wish to address the C01l1llli.ssion on any particular public hearing
item, the Chairman will call for public testilllOny first for those in favor of the project,
and second, for those who are not in favor. Jihen !IOU see that the speaker's position in the
center of the room is unoccupied, step up to the microphone and when recognized b!l the
Chairman, speak directl!l into the microphone by first stating !lour name and address clearl!l
and distinctly for the records. State your business as clearly and succinctl!l as possible
and then wait a moment to see if the C01l1llli.ssioners have any questions in regard to your
comments or questions. If there are no other questions or comments, return to your seat
so that the next person lllay address the Co1l1llli.ssion.
If you wish to address the C01l1llli.ssion on matters other than public hearings, the agenda
provides for that time when the Chairman asks for comments from the public. Address the
Co1l1lIIi.ssion in the same manner as stated for public hearings, always stating your name and
address first.
SEAL BEACH PLA~XIXG COMMISSIOX AGEXDA
September 3. 1986
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A. Plan Review 19-86 (pughl
124 12th Street
B. ~!~utes of A~gust 20. 1986.
C. Minutes of ~ay 21. 1986.
D. Minutes of Ma, 14. 1986.
E. Minutes of June 4. 1986.
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5. ~lihli~_g~~rillg! Resolution :1435
A. Conditional rse Permit 13-86
138 1.2 - 140 Main Street
A request to permit live entertainment in conjunction
with an eXisting restaurant located within 100 feet of
a residentially zoned property.
Environmental Review:
exempt from CEQA review
Section 15308].
This project is categorically
[California Government Code
Code Sections: 28-1300/61(il: 28-2503: 28-2504
Applicant: Paul Hennesse,
Owner: Tom Schuveiller
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A. Resolution ~umber 1416
Reflects action of Planning Commission on April 9.
1986.
AYES: Covington.Hunt.Jessner.Ripperdan
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B. Resolution Xumber 1417
Reflects action of Planning Commission on April 9. 1986
AYES:
Co~ington,Hunt.Jessner,Ripperdan
XOES:
Xone
ABSEXT:
Perrin
C. Resolution Xumber 1423
Reflects action of Planning Commission on JulY.16.
1986.
AYES: Covington.Sharp,Suggs
XOES: Xone
ABSEX!': Perrin
ABSTAIX: Jessner
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SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF
SEPTEMBER 3, 1986
The Seal Beach Planning Commission met in regular session on
Wednesday, September 3, 1986 at 7:43 p.m. Commissioner Covington
led the Salute to the Flag.
PRESENT: Chairman Jessner
Commissioner Covington, Sharp, Suggs
ABSENT: Commissioner Perrin
ALSO PRESENT: Edward Knight, Director of Development Services
Pam Walker, Administrative Aide
William Rudell, City Attorney
Ginger Bennington, Secretary to City Manager
REPORT FROM SECRETARY
There was no report at this time.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman Jessner suggested the Commission vote on each item on
the consent calendar separately as not all Commissioners were
present at each meeting. Sharp so moved; Covington seconds.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
A. Plan Review 19-86 (Pugh) 124 12th Street
Covington moves for approval; Suggs seconds.
AYES::
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
B. Planning Commission Minutes of August 20, 1986
Commissioner Sharp moves for approval as presented; Sharp
seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
C. Planning Commission Minutes of May 21, 1986
Chairman Jessner moves for approval as presented; Covington
seconds.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner
None
Sharp, Suggs
Perrin
Motion Carried
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D. Planning Commission Minutes of May 14, 1986
Commissioner Covington moves for approval as presented; Jessner
seconds.
AYES:
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ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner
None
Sharp, Suggs
Perrin
Motion Carried
E. Planning Commission Minutes of June 4, 1986
Commissioner Suggs moves for approval as presented; Covington
seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Suggs
None
Sharp
Perrin
Motion Carried
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PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 13-86 - HENNESSEY'S
TAVERN - 138 1/2-140 MAIN STREET
While presenting his staff report, Mr. Knight indicated this was
a request to permit live entertainment in conjunction with an
existing restaurant, Hennessey's Tavern, located on Main Street.
A conditional use permit (18-84) allows on-sale beer, wine and
distilled spirits. Knight stated the definition of live
entertainment in the City code is in broad terms. The Chief of
Police has stated that the current restaurant has not posed a
police problem in the past. The Police Chief did feel that
quieter music would be preferable to amplified music. Staff
reviewed the recent history of live entertainment in the downtown
areas and Hennessey's request. It was reported this is the
second CUP asking for entertainment under the new provisions
adopted in March 24, 1986. The following background on
entertainment permits was provided: Prior to this, Walt's Wharf
had applied for and received an entertainment license from the
City Manager's office. Shortly thereafter, the City received
complaints of noise, parking. Walt's Wharf was requested to
correct these problems, but was unable to. Accordingly, the City
Manager accepted Walt's Wharf voluntarily invalidation of their
entertainment permit. In the case of the entertainment cafe CUP
9-86 regarding Senor Corky's, the applicant was requesting light
acoustical music and 1atin jazz, having had this type of
entertainment since 1981. It was pointed out that complaints
from residences regarding noise were received. The live
entertainment took place outside patio, which was subsequently
covered. After due consideration, the Planning Commission
denied the request by a vote of 4-0. Knight commented that since
Hennessey's was not specific as to the type of live entertainment
they would be providing and the potential for incompatibility is
a reality considering the adjacent residential properties, it
was recommended that the CUP be denied. As a final note, staff
put together a list of situations that could mitigate impact on
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surrounding areas. Staff felt that these conditions if utilized,
could be compatible with surrounding uses. Staff in further
reviewing the conditions, revised condition #2 to be allowed on a
regular basis, and therefore condition #4 would not be needed.
Chairman Jessner declared the public hearing open. MR. PAUL
HENNESSEY, owner and applicant, spoke regarding his request. His
specific proposal was for background music only between the hours
of 9 p.m. and 1 a.m. There was to be no band, no bandstand, no
dancing. Mr. Hennessey expressed the willingness to limit the
numbers of musical instruments to one or two at the most such as
a piano or guitar. In response to Commission's questions, the
following was offered:
1. Entertainment is requested 7 nights per week. It is
conceivable that business may not warrant paying for
entertainment on 7 nights a week.
2. Taped music is currently playing in background.
3. Doors and windows remain closed so as not to exceed
noise level condition placed on existing alcohol CUP.
4. Air conditioner formerly in disrepair is now in
operation.
5. Maximum occupancy is 150 persons.
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Mr. Covington indicated that doors and windows were open each
occasion when he passed by. Air conditioning is frequently in
disrepair due to corrosion from ocean air, reported Mr.
Hennessey. Hennessey indicated a willingness to install a
decibel meter in the restaurant in order to have ability to
monitor sound at all times.
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Chairman Jessner stated that during the hearings for the CUP
regarding alcohol license, that Hennessey reported there would be
no entertainment. Hennessey indicated that the market has
changed which warrants competing with other restaurants offering
entertainment; he is looking to building up any downtime the
restaurant has. Jessner noted that a bikini contest had been
held there recently, along with other special events. Hennessey
indicated that the City had granted one day permits for special
promotions and to his knowledge no complaints had been received
by the Police Department. Hennessey indicated that no special
events would be requested should this entertainment permit be
granted. The City Manager had requested that since Hennessey's
was often applied for special promotions, that they seek a live
entertainment permit from the Planning Commission. Jessner also
indicated that condition #11 of the existing CUP states that the
rear door shall not be open after 10 p.m. or before 7 a.m. for
trash removal or delivery purposes. Hennessey reported, to the
best of his knowledge, this is being done. Jessner indicated
that a letter from 10 residents living behind the restaurant
complained of the continuous noise from the restaurant, and that
after closing hours, employees throw empty bottles and trash into
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containers located behind the restaurant. Mr. Hennessey
indicated he had received no' complaints. Mr. Jessner felt the
restaurant manager should be responsible for seeing that the
conditions of a permit are being met. It was determined that a
copy of the complaints noted in the petition had not been sent to
Hennessey's, although Mr. Hennessey was made aware of the
complaints by the Director of Development Services a few days
ago. Another subject of concern brought out by Mr. Jessner was
the numerous banners displayed by the restaurant. Mr. Knight
indicated the sign code does not permit temporary banners of any
sort. Mr. Hennessey expressed the understanding that banners
were allowed for up to 3 days, which is what Hennessey's Tavern
has been complied with. Covington suggested the restaurant
manager meet with staff to clarify some of these issues.
Commission Suggs requested clarification regarding delivery
trucks in the alley. Mr. Hennessey reported that delivery trucks
are only allowed during restricted hours. In response to
Chairman Jessner's questions regarding ABC license conditions,
Pam Walker pointed out it was brought to staff's attention that
the Planning Commission requested the conditions of the alcohol
license. A copy was therefore requested and included in the
Commission's information packet. Hennessey's stated the
restaurant is running over 50% 'for food business, which is the
criteria to be met for a restaurant versus a bar. Hennessey
noted that ABC does not require proof that a restaurant is
providing more than 50% for food service. Mr. Hennessey
indicated the restaurant serves breakfast, lunch and dinner with
his grocery purchase receipts reflecting the fact that more food
that alcohol is served. No other persons spoke in favor of the
matter.
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JULIANA McCANTS, 421 Jade Cove Way, was opposed to a drinking
establishment open until 1 a.m., especially providing
entertainment until 1 in the morning. MARY BOLTON, SPEAKING FOR
FRANK CURTIS, 1700 Bayou Way, opposed the live entertainment
permit for Hennessey's. Mr. Curtis owned property at 139 10th, 2
units at 149 10th and 143 10th and 960 Central. Most of his
property is affected by Hennessey's. 'Mr. Curtis' letter signed
by his tenants outlined his and their complaints. (A copy of
that letter is provided in the CUP 13-86 file.) Mr. Curtis
explained that the main complaint from his tenants was from the
bottles and cans being tossed into the trash bins in the late
evening/early morning hours and truck traffic in the alleys. Mr.
Curtis did not know if the live entertainment. would be disturbing
to his tenants. NORMA STROHMEIER, 209 Seal Beach Boulevard,
felt that Hennessey's was a tavern rather than a restaurant. She
felt Hennessey's had violated conditions of their permit.
CHARLES ANTOS, 148 14th Street, opposed the granting of the
entertainment permit. Mr. Antos stated when Hennessey's first
applied for a variance and CUP to operate, they were heard at the
Planning Commission. Mr. Antos provided the following
background: The original variance and CUP was approved and
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appealed to the City Council on the basis that were some
variances that had never been advertised or discussed by the
Commission and no decisions had been rendered on these variances.
It was the first time in Seal Beach that more than two persons
had appealed a Planning Commission decision. The City Attorney
ruled that the only item up for discussion was the parking
variance. One of the items brought up tonight was the delivery
trucks blocking the alley - that would have been one of the
variances to be adjudicate (no loading zone). The whole question
of providing an inadequate loading zone was never addressed.
With regard to banners and signs, the sign code indicates that
banners should be prohibited in the City. Complaints have been
filed as Mr. Antos filed a complaint regarding the snow bunny
contest to the Police Department. Mr. Antos stated he called the
Police Deparment and the Mayor and suggested he view the noise
situation last Wednesday evening. Mr. AntQs meausred the noise
level across the street from Hennessey's finding it to be below
60 DBA. The same measurement taken in front of Hennessey's on
the sidewalk, according to Mr. Antos was 75 dBA. The noise meter
has been calibrated by a known acoustical consultant and it is
correct according to Mr. Antos. Another concern expressed was
the lack of parking for that site. Live entertainment will
generate more people with no additional parking spaces. Mr.
Antos felt the granting of a live entertainment permit was not
compatible with surrounding uses of residential properties. In
response to Mr. Sharp, Mr. Antos explained he was a City employee
for 11 years and still remains interested in what happens in Seal
Beach. BRUCE STARK, 204 Ocean Avenue, opposed the granting of
the live entertainment permit. Mr. Stark felt Hennessey's held
too many special promotions not all of which were permitted by
the City. Mr. Stark also felt that crime has increased in
general within the City and that the increase in crime could have
some bearing upon the increase in the number of bars in the area.
Mr. Stark also felt the illumination of parking spaces in the
alley was not provided. ELLEN GRIFFITH, 127 and 129 10th Street,
stated there is a noise problem behind Hennessey's. Ms. Griffith
has spoken to the manager and was told the complaint would be
logged. The parking in the back is a problem because the two
spaces provided are tandem and overflow into the alley which
makes it difficult to pass through the alley. The trash is piled
into the alley with open containers producing odors. Ms.
Griffith felt the entertainment would increase the customers,
increase the traffic, increase the parking problems and increase
the noise and increase the trash. REVA OLSON, 1625 Seal Way,
opposed the granting of the live entertainment permit due to
resultant increased parking problems and noise problems. Ms.
Olson felt decreased values in real estate might occur. MITZI
MORTON, 153 13th, stated minors are allowed into Hennessey's
without parents since it is considered a restaurant. According
to Ord. 1149 regarding entertainment cafes no minor under the age
of 21 years shall be permitted unless accompanied by a parent or
a guardian. Ms. Morton questioned the ability to enforce this
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ordinance. The licensee should be held responsible for the
conduct of band members and patrons and for the correct age of
persons engaged in the activities of the entertainment cafe. The
parking lot was supposed to be sufficiently lighted and all
required parking lots to be supervised. Ms. Morton questioned
City's liability regarding lighting needs. ABC has put
restrictions of Hennessey's license regarding entertainment which
states that it shall be audible beyond the area under control of
the licensee. Ms. Morton wondered who would enforce this
condition. At a prior hearing, Mr. Hennessey stated he left his
doors and windows open for ventilation since he had no air
conditioning. ROBERT CAMPREGER, 121 Main Street, owner of
Irisher, opposed the granting of live entertainment permit. He
felt the entertainment brought in outsiders who did not care for
the City and acted accordingly. NORMA STROHMEIER, 209 Seal Beach
Boulevard, wished to mention that the family owned business that
had been here 30 to 40 years should be given consideration before
providing competitors such as Hennessey's with special permits;
i.e., live entertainment permit, which might take business away.
PAUL HENNESSEY, speaking in rebuttal, stated that his business is
a family owned business, owned by Mr. Hennessey and his wife and
children. Mr. Hennessey stated that most of the complaints he
heard were regarding noise and parking. He indicated he
restriped the City parking lot for $4,000 and provided parking
spaces. When the dinner business is down, traffic flow is down
which is when the restaurant will be trying to bring people in.
No knew parking problems will occur. The market makes their
parking lot available for nighttime parking. As far as the noise
and the alleyway, this will be addressed. Mr. Hennessey felt
this has nothing to do with the entertainment, however. The
banners will be eliminated. JOHN SANDERS, General Manager of
Hennessey's, 1708 Bluewater Lane, Huntington Beach, indicated
that garbage is no longer being placed in the trash cans past 10
p.m. The windows are open but they do have screens, however, the
rear door remains closed. A member of the audience stated she
lived behind Hennesseys and the back door is always open. She
further stated that customers traverse the alley and are loud and
noisy. Chairman Jessner declared the public hearing closed as no
others wished to speak regarding the live entertainment permit
for Hennessey's Tavern.
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Commissioner Covington read the concluding statement of the staff
report which said given this history of discord between
entertainment cafes and residential properties in the Main Street
area, staff finds reason to believe that the applicant's request
is not compatible with neighboring uses. Staff does recommend
CUP 13-86 be denied due to a lack of compatibility with
surrounding uses. Mr. Knight stated the idea behind a CUP is to
evaluate on a case-by-case basis and hopefully identify
conditions that would make that use compatible with surrounding
uses. Since Hennessey's had not been specific in their live
entertainment request, staff felt the CUP should be denied.
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Staff did state that given a certain list of conditions and based
upon the performance of those conditions over a period of time,
that use may be compatible, however, left to the discretion of
the Planning Commission. Mr. Covington stated that when an
applicant comes before the Commission and asks to have an
additional privilege, he reviews their application to see if they
are essentially following conditions currently imposed upon them
for the operation of their facility. Mr. Covington felt that
Hennessey's Tavern had not been following the conditions of their
existing conditional use permit perceived from the testimony
received at this hearing. Hennessey's had originally stated they
would not request live entertainment, their seems to be excessive
noise primarily due to trash and people coming and going (all
after 10 p.m.), the doors and windows are frequently left open,
that noise generated exceeds the 55 dBA, banners continue to be
displayed in violation of City code, and a number of other
operations that continue to be exceptions rather than the rule.
Mr. Covington felt the operation of a business is a privilege,
the right to enjoy the quiet sanctity and use of your home is a
right. Anything that takes from that right is a privilege that
cannot be granted for a commercial establishment. If
circumstances are changed by the operator and those things that
exist now are brought into control and if a method of operation
for some future permit to allow that permit will not be derived
from taking that right from the neighbors, Mr. Covington
suggested that Hennessy's reapply to the City. For those
reasons stated, Commissioner Covington moved that CUP 13-86 be
denied. Chairman Jessner concurred with Mr. Covington's
statement. In this particular case, he pointed out, there were
many violations of the existing conditional use permit.
Commissioner Suggs felt there was sufficient information under
these conditions as noted by staff to take care of the situation
in the event that it does develop into a problem. Mr. Suggs felt
the entertainment issue only should be addressed and that
Hennessey's should not be punished for something which has
happened in the past. Commissioner Sharp concurred with both Mr.
Covington and Mr. Jessner, stated that the requirements
originally imposed on Hennessey's should be complied with before
the applicant is given an additional privilege. Chairman Jessner
seconds the motion.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp
Suggs
Perrin
Motion Carried
Chairman Jessner pointed out to the applicant that 10 days are
provided for appeal to the City Council.
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SCHEDULED MATTERS
A. RESOLUTION #1416 - REFLECTING PLANNING COMMISSION
ACTION TAKEN ON APRIL 9, 1986
Commissioner Covington moves to approve Resolution #1416, Suggs
seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Suggs
None
Sharp
Perrin
Motion Carried
B. RESOLUTION #1417 - DENYING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 85-
1002, REFLECTING ACTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION ON APRIL
9, 1986
Commissioner Suggs moves to adopt Resolution #1417; Covington
seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
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Covington, Jessner, Suggs
None
Sharp
Perrin
Motion Carried
C. RESOLUTION #1423 - DENYING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 12-86
(WACKERMAN) - REFLECTING ACTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION
ON JULY 16, 1986
Commissioner Covington moves to adopt Resolution #1423; Suggs
seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Covington, Sharp, Suggs
None
Jessner
Perrin
Motion Carried
COMMISSION REQUESTS
Commissioner Covington requests status report on Hellman
property.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Bruce Stark, 204 Ocean, noted there was a previous discussion by
Mr. Watson regarding purchasing the 4th Street stub end. Mr.
Stark wondered if that had been accomplished since some
excavation had been occurring on that site. Mr. Knight will
contact the Public Works Department and look into the matter.
COMMISSION COMMUNICATIONS
Commissioner Covington thanked staff for its presentation.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission and so ordered by the
Chair to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting of September 3,
1986 at 10:05 p.m.
THESE MINUTES ARE TENTATIVE, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION.
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