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SEAL BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
City Council Chambers
211 Eighth Street
Seal Beach. California
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PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
January 21, 1987
Next Resolution 11448
1.
Pledge of Allegiance
Roll Call
2.
3.
Consent Calendar
A. Minutes of April 16, 1986
B. Plan Review 28-86, 1518 Marine
4.
Public Hear ings
A. Zoning Text Amendment 1-87
A request to amend Chapter 28 of the Municipal Code to
provide for the incremental upgrading of landscaping in
nonconforming retail centers.
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Code Sections: 28-2488; 28-2688; 28-2681
Environmental
been prepared
Report.
Review:
in lieu
Negative Declaration 1-87 has
of an Environmental Impact
Applicant: City of Seal Beach
B. Zoning Text Amendment 2-87
A request to amend Chapter 28 of the Municipal Code to
provide a definition for roof sign, and regulations for
historic signs.
Code Sections: 28-2688; 28-2681
Environmental
been prepared
Report.
Applicant: City of Seal Beach
Review:
in lieu
Negative Declaration 2-87 has
of an Environmental Impact
5. Scheduled Matters
A. Plan Review 1-87
351/1 Ocean
B. Plan Review 2-87
94 welcome Lane
C. Report on In-Lieu parking Program
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Planning Commission Agenda
January 21, 1987
Page 2
6. Oral Communications from the Audience
At this time, members of the public may address the
Commission regarding any item within the subject matter of
the Commission provided that no action may be taken on off-
agenda items unless authorized by law.
7. Staff Concerns
8. Commission Concerns
9. Adjournment
Agenda Forecast:
February 4, 1986
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9lil9 Ocean Avenue
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF
JANUARY 21, 1987
The Seal Beach Planning Commission
Wednesday, January 21, 1987 at 7:35 p.m.
the Salute to the Flag.
met in regular session on
Commissioner Suggs led
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Jessner
Commissioners Sharp, Suggs
Commissioner Covington arrived approximately 7:40 p.m.
Commissioner Perrin
Absent:
Also
Present:
Edward Knight, Director of Development Services
Pamela Walker, Administrative Aide
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman Jessner requested that Item A of the consent calendar,
the minutes of Planning Commission meeting of April 16, 1986 be
deferred until later in the evening when all Commissioners would
be present who were on the Commission in 1986.
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Mr. Knight requested that Item
from the consent calendar
Commissioner Sharp moved to
calendar, Suggs second.
B, Plan Review
and opened up
remove Item B
28-86, be removed
for discussion.
from the consent
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Covington, Perrin
Motion Carried
Item B. Plan Review 28-86 - 1510 Marine
Mr. Knight, the Director of Development Services, indicated this
type of plan review is normally on the consent calendar for minor
action. The concern is that the roof deck will create a noise
problem. Staff indicates it is very routine to have this type of
roof deck in this community. To mitigate this problem and to
make it applicable to what is allowed in Seal Beach, staff is
recommending that instead of the entire parking area becoming a
deck, the northern half of the parking area be utilized as a deck
and that a 3rd condition be placed limiting the use of the deck
to the northern half and the gazebo placed in that location.
With that addition, staff recommended approval of Plan Review 28-
86. Mr. Mike Clements, 425 Poplar Street, Laguna Beach, spoke as
the owner's agent, indicating there was no objection to any of
the three conditions. Mr. Clements fully realized that the size
of the deck will be considerably smaller than originally
intended. Commissioner Sharp moved to approve Plan Review 28-86
with the three conditions noted; Suggs seconds.
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AYES:
NOES:
Absent:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
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Item A. Minutes of Planning Commission Meeting of April
18, 1986
Chairman Jessner requested that Item A of the consent calendar be
considered at this time. Commissioner Covington moved to approve
the minutes of April 16, 1986 as presented, Jessner seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner
None
Sharp, Suggs
Perrin
Motion Carried
PUBLIC HEARING ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 1-87 INCREMENTAL
UPGRADING OF LANDSCAPING IN NONCONFORMING RETAIL CENTERS
Mr. Knight requested this public hearing be continued to the next
regularly scheduled meeting to allow for the affected property
owners to have more time to formulate their opinions. As there
were no persons in the audience who wished to give input on this
matter, Commissioner Sharp moved to postpone ZTA 1-87 to February
4, 1987; Covington seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
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PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 2-87 - DEFINITION OF ROOF
SIGN, REGULATIONS FOR HISTORIC SIGNS
Pam Walker explained this ZTA was initiated by the City Council
after Council denied the request for Variance 12-86, an
application by Great Western Savings to permit a roof sign in
Rossmoor Center. One of the issues arising from that appeal was
what constitutes a roof sign. Consequently, Council directed
staff to prepare a specific definition for a roof sign along with
regulations for historic signs. Nearby cities were surveyed and
it was found that defining wall signs, roof, roof signs and
parapets would enhance the definition of roof signs. Staff
recommended the Commission adopt the four definitions as noted in
the staff report of January 21, 1987. With regard to historic
signs, Ms. Walker stated that conditions were provided which
would discourage frivolous applications for exemption from height
and size limits and also protect surrounding uses from adverse
impact. It was requested that historic signs be considered
through the conditional use permit process. It was recommended
that the Planning Commission approve the amendments and recommend
to the City Council for adoption. For clarification, it was
pointed out any wall sign attached to a parapet which is part of
the wall, must not extend above the parapet. If the wall sign
extended above the parapet, it would then become a roof sign. In
response to a Commission member's concern that overly large
equipment could be installed on a rooftop with a parapet thus
impacting the surrounding neighbors, the size and height
limitations to the actual sign itself, combined with the
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definitions would produce a sign proportional to the structure,
according to the Director. Mr. Knight indicated there is some
recourse which allows staff to architecturally review on the
basis of aesthetics. As to satellite dish antennas, there is an
ordinance which affords greater control. Great Western Savings,
whose sign was originally determined by the Planning Commission
to be a roof sign based on the definitions available should this
ordinance be adopted would clearly meet the criteria for a legal
wall sign. Knight explained that under Section 28-2907, appeal
to the Commission under review of plans, the Commission has the
right to approve with conditions or disapprove a design or review
brought to the Commission (this includes architectural review).
These plans would come to the Commission for appeal should staff
reject the plans. A Commission member expressed concern that
the historic sign definition has no minimum age for a sign to be
considered historic. Knight felt an age limitation would be
appropriate.
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Chairman Jessner declared the public hearing open. Mr. Rob
Vermand, 617 Seabreeze, congratulated staff on ZTA 2-87. Mr.
Vermand represented Great Western Savings at their variance
hearing. Vermand suggested Commission adopt the recommendations
of staff. Mr. Bob Keenan, 415 West Foothill Blvd, Suite 212,
Claremont, 91711, Executive Director of California Electric Sign
Association & Sign Users Council of California, indicated he
worked in 58 cities last year, including Seal Beach. Mr. Keenan
indicated a sign company requested he review the amendment. Mr.
Keenan expressed his concern regarding the definition of a roof
and therefore the definition of a roof sign. Keenan also
congratulated staff for their in-depth report and for the fact
they were open to suggestions. Keenan suggested that the
standard roof line definition used in the sign industry be
adopted, which is: "a roof line is the top edge of the roof or
top of the parapet whichever forms the top line of the building
silhouette." This removes the discretion of staff and provides a
clear definition for all. The Director indicated he felt staff's
roof sign definition is adequate as it states no sign can extend
above the parapet or roof line itself. He felt the four
definitions would provide an ironclad guidance. Mrs. Mitzi
Morton, 1513 13th Street, wondered if the City would object if a
merchant put up a parapet 10 feet high in order to make a facade
to build up the height of a building so it will be viewed as a 2-
story. Mrs. Morton explained that the Downtown Task Force were
encouraged by the former City Manager and Planning Department to
encourage the merchants to put up these two-story facades for
aesthetic reasons. A Commissioner felt there would be objections
from the Fire Department and Police Department to these false
facades as they may present a hazard. Mrs. Morton felt the
Commission should consider this when making a decision. Jerri
West, 1201 Electric Avenue, felt staff's definition of a roof
would be less open to interpretation than that proposed by Mr.
Keenan. Mrs. Morton also concurred that an age limitation be
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used in defining historic signs. Commissioner Covington felt
that the age limitation should be shorter than that used for
historic buildings, which is 50 years. As no others spoke in
favor nor in opposition to this matter, Chairman Jessner declared
the public hearing on ZTA 2-87 closed. Commissioner Covington
recommended approval of ZTA 2-87, subject to the following
recommendations:
1) That the definition of a roof be changed to that approved by
the staff which was provided with a definition by Mr. Bill
Keenan of the Sign Users Council. Covington made that
recommendation based on staff support and their confirmation
that the definition is more clearly consistent with the
definitions used by the State Uniform Building Code.
2) That under the historic sign section, a sentence be added
that staff feels appropriate which would state "any sign
otherwise complying with the requirements of this ordinance
as an historic sign, must be at least 25 years old."
Commissioner Sharp seconds. After
determined that a 25 year limitation
Beach - not excessive nor too liberal.
some discussion, it was
was appropriate for Seal
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
SCHEDULED MATTERS - PLAN REVIEW 1-87, 350 OCEAN AVENUE
The Director reported this plan review, submitted by Jim Watson
for his residence on 350 Ocean Avenue, was a request for minor
height variation to allow a turret addition which falls within
the 10% allowed under plan review. Staff, therefore recommended
approval of the plan review with the conditions noted in the
staff report of January 21, 1987. Mr. James Watson, 101 Main,
Suite A, indicated he concurred with staff conditions noted in
the report. Mr. Watson felt this was one of the oldest homes on
the bluff which he has been in the process of improving. He
stated staff recommended this possible solution to an aesthetic
problem Watson had with the floor elevation. Commissioner Sharp
moved to approve; Suggs seconds.
Mr. Paul O'Brien, III 4th Street (across from 350 Ocean Avenue),
felt the turret addition would visually impact his view. It was
pointed out that Watson's original variance application was
granted prior to Mr. O'Brien's improvement. After discussion, it
was determined that the blockage of view would be minimal.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
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SCHEDULED MATTERS - PLAN REVIEW 2-87 - 94 WELCOME LANE - LATTA
Ms. Walker reported that the plan review was an application for
architectural review and minor height variation. The applicant
proposes the construction of a 2-story Victorian-style cabana in
the Seal Beach Trailer Park. Ms. Walker further noted the
applicant is also requesting a minor height variation to permit a
nonhabitable portion of the roof to exceed the 25-ft. height
limit. Staff recommended approval of Plan Review 2-87 subject to
four conditions noted in report of January 21, 1987. Mr. Robert
Latta, 94 Welcome Lane, presented pictures of existing cabanas in
the trailer park. Mr. Latta objected to the earth tones
recommended by staff and was desirous of using multi-hued, light-
toned shingles. Ms. Walker explained that in reviewing past
architectural reviews of cabanas, earth tones were predominantly
used. As this is not spelled out specifically in the municipal
code, staff recommendation was for earth tones or muted blues to
maintain consistency within the park.
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Some discussion occurred regarding the mobility of the trailer
within the cabana structure. Ms. Walker reported the zoning
ordinance does not state specifically whether or not the trailer
should be removable through an open area on the cabana. This
matter comes under the authority of Title 25 of the State
Administrative Code. Knight also clarified that prior to the
issuance of any building permits, the structure would have to
conform to Title 25 which is an administrative function of the
Building Department. Title 25 does not specifically address the
2-story cabana, it provides a definition and regulations to
insure that the structure remains a trailer so that it can be
removed under the provisions of Title 25. The plans will be
reviewed under the provisions of Title 25 when they are
submitted. Mr. Latta stated he would have no objection to making
any adjustments to comply with Title 25. Mr. Covington was
concerned that decks and balconies be included in the cabana
construction to fully utilize the view and open space as has been
done in the past to be consistent with the history of cabana
development within the trailer park. Mr. Latta indicated that
while he is not providing balconies, he is setting his building
back and providing a garden area. It was Covington's feeling
that the original intent of the cabana should be preserved, i.e.,
to provide decks or balconies to ease denseness due to
substandard lots. Commissioner Sharp moved to continue Plan
Review 2-87 to allow the Commission to take a closer look at the
trailer park and allow staff and the applicant to consider
revising the plans to take into account the substandard lots and
the need to provide balconies or decks to relieve this denseness;
Covington seconds.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Covington, Jessner, Sharp, Suggs
None
Perrin
Motion Carried
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SCHEDULED MATTERS - IN-LIEU PARKING PROGRAM
Per Planning Commission request, the Director provided a report
updating the status of businesses utilizing parking variances in
the Old Town Main Street area. Six businesses have conditions on
their variances which require them to enter into agreements to
participate in a City-approved "in-lieu" parking program. It was
noted that Walt's Wharf, Old Town Wine & Gourmet, Hennessey's,
Nick's Deli, 326 Main Street are currently participating in the
program. 901 Ocean has since closed and is no longer in the
parking program. The total number of parking spaces utilized is
117 with a yearly income to the City of $11,700. It was
explained that the Development Services Department will be
working with the Finance Department to insure prompt payment of
the fees. The City Attorney prepared, per Commission request, an
interim "in-lieu" parking agreement, valid until a permanent
program can be established. This agreement will be forwarded to
each of these businesses for execution. Chairman Jessner
requested additional information on the Kyle development on
Pacific Coast Highway. Jessner felt there was a shortfall of
parking spaces that should be included in the in-lieu program.
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Responding to a Commission member, the Director explained the
City Manager and he are planning a work program to implement
Phase 2 of the Downtown Task Force. This program will identify
all steps necessary to show what existing demand is, what future
demand will be and specifically identify projects and make a
commitment to those projects. A cost will be determined for
those projects and a consultant hired to provide a vehicle, such
as in-lieu program, to pay for those projects. An in-lieu
parking district and program in Old Town will be identified and
adopted, if that is the recommendation of the consultant.
With regard to nonpayment of in-lieu fees, Knight updated the
Commission. Every business is current for 85/86. Walt's Wharf,
Hennesseys and 326 Main Street have not paid their full fees for
86/87. Knight indicated each of the businesses have been sent a
letter requesting payment of fee and providing the information
that should the fee not be paid, there is a possibility their
variance could be revoked.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
The Director clarified for Mitzi Morton that
program shall continue until such time
permanent in-lieu program or until such time
of off-street parking spaces required by the
the business. The City does have the option
lieu fees.
the interim in-lieu
as the City adopts a
as the total number
code are provided by
to increase the in-
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Jerri West, 1201 Electric, felt the Planning Commission
representative for District 1 should be present at all Commission
meetings. The Chairman explained that the Councilmember from
District 1 will be making an appointment to the Planning
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Commission soon as Mr Perrin has been unable to attend all
Commission meetings.
STAFF CONCERNS
The Director reported that the large family/small family day care
ordinance was adopted by the City Council as well as the hotel
amendment to the Code. He also noted a property owner at 705
Ocean Avenue requested Council to rezone the open space in the
700 block of Ocean to Public Land Use. Staff will be bringing
that back to the Planning Commission for their determination. It
was further noted that the DWP has successfully removed most of
the asbestos on the site, to be completed in February.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Covington requested the City Council agenda packet
be delivered to each Commission member.
Chairman Jessner indicated he had received a letter
Cable Communications Foundation asking that live
coverage of Planning Commission meetings be allowed, to
by the Foundation. It was determined to consider this
the February 4th Commission meeting.
from the
or taped
be funded
matter at
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission and so ordered by the
Chair to adiourn the Planning Commission meeting of January 21,
1987 at lO:4fup.m.
THESE MINUTES ARE TENTATIVE, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
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