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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES of DECEMBER 8, 1993
Chairman Dahlman called the regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:30
p.m. in City Council Chambers.
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Commission said the Pledge of Allegiance.
n. ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Dahlman
Commissioners Soukup, Law, Sharp, Campbell
Also
Present:
D~artment of Develo.,pment Services:
Craig Steele, Assistant City Attorney
Barry Curtis, Administrative Assistant
Joan Fillmann, Executive Secretary
Absent:
Lee Whittenberg, Director
ID.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of November 3, 1993
The Chairman indicated that the Planning Commission Minutes of October
22, 1993 have been amended in accordance with a motion at the
November 3, 1993 Commission meeting to reflect that former Planning
Commissioner Ron J essner did indicate the site at 99 Marina is not well
maintained.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to approve the Planning
Commission Minutes of November 3, 1993 as presented.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
ABSTAIN:
4-0-1
Sharp, Law, Soukup, Campbell
Dahlman
2. Information: ABC Conditions for B.J. 's Pizza, 209 Main Street
3. Information: Staff Memo re 909 Ocean Avenue * EI Burrito Junior
MOTION by Soukup; SECOND by Law to receive and rde items #2
and #3 as presented.
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MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
SCHEDULED MATTERS
5-0-0
Sharp, Law, Campbell, Soukup, Dahlman
4. Status Report: Housing Element Revision
5. Status Report: Proposed Rule 1504 (Backstop Rule) Cor Local
Government.
Staff Re,port
Mr. Curtis explained the two scheduled matters are reports which were presented
to the City Council and are now before the Commission as information items.
Item #4, the Housing Element Revision, addresses Assembly Bill 2172, which
extends the planning period of existing housing elements by two years, postponing
the due date for the City's next revision of its housing element from June 30,
1994 to June 30, 1996. Mr. Curtis said this extension was placed due to the
State's lagging economy.
Commissioner Campbell said she wanted the aviation report from the EIR on the
proposed Bixby project retroactively incorporated into the City's existing Housing
Element, noting that what goes on at the Los Alamitos airfield significantly
affects the City of Seal Beach and she does not want to wait unti11996 for this
to be done. The Chairman indicated the Planning Commission has not seen an
EIR for Bixby and Commissioner Campbell said she understood the EIR is in
City Hall. Mr. Curtis said the EIR is in draft form because the project has been
modified. Bixby submitted their final plans last week and based on that staff is
preparing a revised environmental review. Mr. Steele advised there is a
procedural requirement for amending the City's existing Housing Element, first
the EIR (of which the aviation report is a part)) must be approved by the City.
The incorporation of the aviation report into the existing Housing Element would
require an amendment of the City's Housing Element. Chairman Dahlman asked
staff to place this on the Commission's agenda. Mr. Steele said the California
Assembly is considering major amendments to the State's General Plan laws,
including Housing Element requirements; in the next few months there may be
further amendment to the City's responsibility under the affordable housing laws.
Commissioner Campbell said there is also going to be an ACUIZ study that the
military is presently undertaking and when that is completed she would like that
incorporated into the City's existing Housing Element. Mr. Curtis said the City
anticipates the Bixby hearings to start by early March.
Item #5, Proposed Rule 1504 (Backstop Rule) for Local Government, which is
intended to backstop local government implementation of transportation control
measures (TCMs) by making up the difference between the reductions that local
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governments achieve through implementation of TCMs and those reductions
targeted in the 1991 AQMD and the 1992 Carbon Monoxide Plan.
Chairman Dahlman said he would hold his technical questions for Mr.
Whittenberg, at the January 5th meeting.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to receive and rde Items #4 and #5.
MOTION CARRIES:
AYES:
5-0-0
Sharp, Law, Dahlman, Soukup, Campbell
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Mr. Steele indicated a resolution for Chevron's CUP (24-hour operation) should
have been brought before the Commission at this meeting. This item was
inadvertently left off this evening's agenda and, rather than amending tonight's
agenda on an emergency basis, this resolution will be brought before the
Commission at its next meeting, January 5th.
Chairman Dahlman said the Minutes were not clear on how it was decided to deal
with emergency gasoline deliveries between 2:00 and 6:00 A.M. The
Commission discussed what they thought had been decided. Mr. Steele said the
decision was to not provide for an emergency "window" so the City could look
at what emergencies did occur on an enforcement basis, allowing the City to
decide that if it happened once the City could consider that truly an emergency
and not take enforcement action. However, if it happened weekly, that may be
grounds to come back to the Planning Commission for CUP modification. The
Commission felt this was an appropriate way to handle this situation; staff agreed.
PUBUC HEARINGS
6. Conditional Use Pennit #93-14
Address: 2901-A Edinger Avenue
Business: Double-D's Dockside Cafe
Applicant: Richard J. Dorsey
Property Owner: County of Orange
Request: An alcohol-related land use entitlement
(on-premise beer and wine consumption)
at an existing restaurant (Double-D's
Dockside Cafe) located within the Sunset
Aquatic Park, an Orange County
Regional Park).
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Staff Re.port
Mr. Steele said the applicant has requested an amendment to the application for
CUP #93-14. This amendment was not Noticed in the original Notice of Public
Hearing. Staff has decided to withdraw consideration of this item from tonight's
agenda and re-Notice an additional Public Hearing. Mr. Curtis said the
applicant's original request was for on-sale service and he would also like to have
off-sale.
Commission Comments to Staff
Commissioner Sharp asked staff to check Orange County's rules and regulations
pertaining to the sale of alcohol beverages at their parks and provide the
Commission with a copy prior to the hearing on CUP #93-14.
Chairman Dahlman said he also wanted the subject of over-concentration
addressed.
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7. Conditional Use Permit #92-13
Address: 143 Main Street
Business: Papillon's Restaurant
Applicant: Nader Tahvlldari
Request: Review of entertainment permit at eight
months.
8. Conditional Use Permit #92-20
Address: 148 Main Street
Business: John's Food King
Applicant: Theodore M. Shepard
Request: Twelve-month review of ABC permit.
Consideration of shared parking lot
concerns.
Staff Re.port
The staff reports were presented together by Mr. Curtis. Mr. Curtis explained
these CUPs are considered together so the Commission may review their shared
parking lot use. Papillon's Restaurant is also under consideration for it's eight
(8) months review of the entertainment permit. John's Food King is under
consideration for it's twelve (12) month review and request for indefinite
extension on it's alcohol-related land use. Staff has not received any complaints
regarding either use and both establishments have been inspected by staff and are
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complying with all Conditions of Approval. Regarding the shared parking, staff
has conducted a usage survey of the parking lot, surveying the lot on 45 separate
occasions over 14 days, during normal working hours Monday thru Friday. The
lot's maximum usage was 68%, the mean was 33%.
Commission Comments on Staff Report
Chairman Dahlman said this staff report did not include old minutes, which would
show the Commission's prior discussion. His understanding was that both
properties are owned by one owner and the two leases divide the parking, giving
John's Food King 2/3 of the parking lot and the restaurant 1/3 of the lot. Mr.
Curtis said the market technically meets their parking because they have been in
business so long they pre-date the City's parking requirements. Papillon's
restaurant is a newer use and they had to meet newer parking standards. The
market has 12 spaces and they are required to have 20 spaces. The restaurant is
supposed to have approximately 19 spaces and they provide six on-site, have
leased seven spaces from the church and have 11 in-lieu parking spaces.
Chairman Dahlman said his understanding was different from plain
'grandfathering', noting that when John's Food King came before the City for
extension of hours and sale of alcohol, it was granted and 13 parking spaces
became theirs. Commissioner Soukup said the staff report, referencing their 45
inspections, suggest there isn't a parking problem, irrespective of the space
allocations.
Public Hearing
Nader Tahvildari * 143 Main Street/Papillon's Restaurant
Mr. Tahvildari introduced himself as the owner of Papillon's restaurant and said
he had no comments to make and agreed with the staff report as presented.
Mr. Tahvildari stated Papillon' s had not been in violation of any of the conditions
of its CUP. .
Ted She,pard. Jr. * 148 Main Street/John's Food King
Mr. Shepard said his current hours are 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. daily, winter and
summer. He has no complaints on parking and has not heard any customer
complaints. During the day the lot is about half full. At night, the market's
business ends when the restaurant's business picks up. On Friday and Saturday
nights there are a few instances where parking is not available but it seems to be
working out well.
David Rosenman * (No Address Given] Seal Beach
Mr. Rosenman said that immediately after City Council consideration, a change
in ownership in the market was announced and he wondered if the Planning
Commission should re-hear this CUP twelve months after that sale took effect.
He noted a deficiency in the staff report data, noting none of the staff review
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looked at parking over the summer months. He felt the lease terms regarding
parking should become part of the Minutes so that someone working back can
identify the facts. Mr. Curtis said that information was previously provided.
Commissioner Sharp said there are new regulations, whereby a CUP is now a
land use entitlement and transfers with the property. The old regulations
specified each new owner had to obtain a new CUP.
Mr. Curtis said he felt the Main Street Specific Plan will address the site as well.
If the Commission has concerns beyond that, staff would not have a problem
rescheduling both these CUPs to be re-heard at a future date. Commissioner
Sharp felt the Commission has spent enough time on this issue.
Commissioner Soukup asked Mr. Shepard about his hours of operation, noting
he has the option to stay open to 2:00 a.m. but is exercising option to stay open
to 9:00 p.m. He could see a problem if the market stayed open longer and
increased parking pressures on the parking lot. He asked Mr. Shepard for his
future plans. Mr. Shepard said he has no plans to stay open past 9:00 p.m. as
business does not warrant longer hours. He sells beer and wine and does not
want to apply for a general liquor license.
Mr. Steele indicated the City retains its right to modify or revoke a CUP at any
time, even if an indefinite extension has been granted. If evidence is presented
to the Commission at a subsequent time that the conditions or the entire CUP
need to be modified or revoked, the City is still retaining its right, even though
the permit itself is transferrable among different owners.
Chairman Dahlman asked if a condition could be placed that said "If this permit
should, in the future, become inconsistent with the City's General Plan the permit
would have to be renewed or reviewed II. Commissioner Sharp said this would
not have to be added because the City automatically has the right to do this. Mr.
Steele agreed, saying this condition is implicit in any CUP granted, because the
Commission is making a finding of consistency with the General Plan in retaining
the right to revoke or modify.
Commissioner Soukup said he wanted further clarification. The CUP allows the
market to stay open to 2:00 a.m. If it's sold and a new owner wants to exercise
that right immediately, does the Commission have the right to revoke their CUP
and start the process over? Mr. Steele said no, he was saying that if the market
is sold and the CUP is transferred along with it, and a new owner wants to stay
open to 2:00 a.m., if the Commission determines that if at some point the 2:00
a.m. use is inconsistent with the General Plan or is an improper land use for that
particular parcel, then the Commission has the right to modify the terms of the
CUP and provide for what the evidence suggests is appropriate. Commissioner
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Soukup asked if the applicant would like to amend his CUP to 10:00 p.m.? Mr.
Shepard said he wanted to keep his closing time at 2:00 a.m. Mr. Shepard noted
that the CUP was transferred from the Davis's to himself the day after the
Davis's received their CUP. This was not one of the conditions of that sale, it
happened to work out that way.
Mr. Tahvildari did not want to rebut and the Public Hearing was closed.
Commission Comments
Chairman Dahlman said it was his understanding, when this was previously
reviewed, that the parking seems to go with the market and not the restaurant.
The restaurant's use of that parking is at the pleasure of the market. He didn't
think the market is part of the problem on Main Street, it's the alcohol
consumption uses that are more of a problem if they run too late. They disrupt
the area. The other markets that John's Food King has to compete with are open
uniformly to 2:00 a.m. and sometimes 24-hours. He did not see any problem
with the current permitted hours at John's Food King. A problem may arise for
the restaurant if the market becomes busier later in the evenings. He felt this
would be best addressed in the Main Street Specific Plan. He asked staff if the
approval of these CUPs interfere with the Main Street Specific Plan? Mr. Steele
said a modification of one or both of these CUPs might become appropriate
during the course of the Main Street Specific Plan. As a matter of law, all use
entitlements of this type are subject to future amendments to general plans, so a
condition would not be necessary within the CUP.
Commissioner Soukup said both CUPs allow for an amendment to the in-lieu
parking programs that they are both adhering to. He felt this is a preferred
solution, where you have a shared parking lot between two businesses as opposed
to other Main Street businesses which have no parking lots. He suggested the
Commission approve these CUPs as presented, knowing the Main Street Specific
Plan will unfold and if there is a parking issue that needs to be addressed, and
these CUPs need amending, then that's the time to do that.
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to approve a twelve month extension
of Conditional Use Permit #92-13 subject to the original conditions and direct
staff to return with a resolution at the next meeting.
MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
5-0-0
Sharp, Law, Dahlman, Soukup, Campbell
MOTION by Sharp; SECOND by Law to approve an indermite extension of
Conditional Use Permit #92-20 and direct staff to return with a resolution at
the next meeting.
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MOTION CARRIED:
AYES:
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Sharp, Law, Dahlman, Soukup, Campbell
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VI.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
David Rosenman * [No Address Givenl Seal Beach
Mr. Rosenman indicated that page 2 of the ABC's conditions of approval for BJ's
Pizza says deliveries to and from the rear of the premises are permitted between
the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. daily.
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STAFF CONCERNS
Mr. Curtis indicated the December 22nd Planning Commission has been canceled;
the next scheduled meeting is January 5, 1994.
VID.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Sharp congratulated the Curtis' on their new baby.
Commissioner Law asked if Tortilla Beach has to get a CUP for entertainment?
Mr. Curtis said yes, if they want to continue beyond one month.
Chairman Dahlman noted there was a fire at Walt's Wharf and the restaurant was
able to open soon due to the efforts of Cox Construction and Building Inspector
Chuck Feenstra.
Chairman Dahlman said Unocal held a meeting last week at the Marina Center.
They agreed to pay for a focused EIR. Mr. Curtis said the City Council would
most probably table the appeal pending the Planning Commission's
recommendation to them and re-schedule the matter once the focused EIR is
completed and reviewed.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Dahlman adjourned the meeting, at 8:25 p.m., to January 5, 1994.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Joan Fillmann
Recording Secretary
APPROVAL:
The Planning Commission Minutes of December 8, 1993 were approved
by the Planning Commission on January 5, 1994. ~
December 8, 1993
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. MEMORANDUM
To:
Honorable Chairman and Planning Commissioners
Joan Fillmann, Planning Department ~
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF OCTOBER 20, 1993
From:
Re:
At the November 3, 1993 Planning Commission meeting, a member of the audience,
John O'Neil, questioned the Minutes of October 20, 1993, specifically the testimony
of Ron Jessner. He felt Mr. Jessner said the property at 99 Marina Drive is NOT well
maintained. The Minutes reflect Mr. Jessner as saying:
If anyone has gone by their faciDly recently they will note it's well
maintained.
I have reviewed the audio tape of that meeting and believe we can correctly correct
the Minutes to say the property at 99 Marina Drive is NOT well maintained per Mr.
Jessner's testimony.
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December 8, 7993
. MEMORANDUM
To:
Honorable Chairman and Planning Commissioners
From:
Joan Fillmann, Planning Department
Re:
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF OCTOBER 20, 7993
At the November 3, 7993 Planning Commission meeting, a member of the audience,
John O'Neil, questioned the Minutes of October 20, 7993, specifically the testimony
of Ron Jessner. He felt Mr. Jessner said the property at 99 Marina Drive is NOT well
maintained. The Minutes reflect Mr. Jessner as saying:
If anyone has gone by their facility recently they will note it's well
maintained.
I believe we can correctly correct the Minutes to say the property at 99 Marina Drive
is NOT well maintained per Mr. Jessner's testimony.
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I listened to the audio tape of that meeting and Mr. Jessner said:
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Whittenberg clarified that Mr. Jessner was talking about Exxon). Exxon,
that's correct. Exxon. Chevron's gone.
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The hearings we had and the testimony we had at that time with
Chevron, and it lasted quite a long time over a long period of time
because there was a lot of concerns and questions and a lot of residents
from the area. The testimony that came out was that there is a potential
for explosions. The noise, the fumes, all the things that were brought
up tonight are the same things, the same issues that were brought up
then. The findings of the Planning Commission at that time with regard
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to the CUP that was requested at that time was that it's an incompatible
use because of the residential uses all around it. That's been there for
a long time. That oil extraction use, the zoning that's there. But over
a long period of time the residential area has built up around it and it's
no longer compatible. We denied the CUP and Chevron went away.
Also, during our hearings, if I recall, the question was "Well, if you don't
get this approved and you want to bring your oil on-shore and do the
separating, can you pipe it someplace else?" And they said "Yes". So
this isn't the only place that this could be done. They could pump it and
send it to Wilmington or any place else that they want to run lines to.
So this isn't the do-or-die situation. I don't want to continue. It's just
that I'm opposed to this. I was opposed to it then and it's basically boils
down to an incompatible use and it's an unsafe use".
This is what was presented in the Minutes:
Ron Jessner * 1704 Bayou Wav, Seal Beach
Mr. Jessner introduced himself as a resident of Seal Beach and a former
Planning Commissioner who was on the Commission when the CUP was
heard for Chevron. At that time Unocal came with Chevron to the
Planning Commission hearing. Chevron said they would be wonderful
neighbors and Unocal said they were sorry their facility looks like a mess
but they've spent time and money cleaning it up and would take of their
facility. If anyone has gone by their facility recently they wHI note it's
not well maintained. The lengthy hearings and testimony demonstrated
there's a potential for explosions, the noise, the fumes are the same
issues that are brought up tonight. The Commission's findings were that
it is an incompatible use because of the surrounding residential uses.
While the oil separation facility has been there a long time, the residential
uses have also been building up around it over a long period of time and
the oil separation facility is no longer compatible. A t that time the
Planning Commission denied the CUP for Chevron and Chevron went
away. During those hearings, the question was asked could Chevron
pipe their oil some place else? Chevron said yes. Therefore, Seal Beach
is not the only place the oil from Platform Esther can be separated. It
could be sent to Wilmington or any place else they want to send lines to.
"This isn't a do or die situation". He stated he is opposed to this
application and was opposed to the Chevron application because it's an
incompatible and unsafe use.
I will amend the Minutes at your direction.