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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair,
to adjourn the meeting at 5:58
with consent of the Council,
p.m.
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March 8, 1999
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:01 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order.
The Salute to the Flag was led by Girl Scout Troop 1282 from
College Park East. Councilmember Campbell presented a
commemorative pin to each Scout and expressed appreciation
for their leading of the Pledge.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Yost
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Absent:
None
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Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Ms. Stoddard, Director of Administrative
Services
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Mr. Dorsey, Assistant to the City Manager
Ms. Beard, Director of Recreation and Parks
Mr. Dancs, Assistant City Engineer
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Yost moved, second by Campbell, to approve the order of the
agenda as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared the Public Comment period open. Ms.
Doris Wagner, Mr. John Treadway, and Ms. Cassie Treadway
introduced themselves as residents of College Park East. Ms.
Wagner said their purpose for being present was to petition
the City on behalf of College Park East, believing it is time
that the streets of their area be repaired in a way that is
commensurate with.the value of the homes and the taxes they
are assessed. Ms. Wagner presented petitions bearing the
names of residents of the area, stated more would be
forthcoming, and requested the status of the streets in
College Park East, specifically the cul-de-sacs, more
specifically Carnation Circle. Mrs. Treadway noted that some
of the primary streets have been repaired over the years, the
condition of the cul-de-sacs is an embarrassment, the
residents try to maintain their homes, it is understood that
such repairs have been brought up before, nothing has been
done, and it is now four years later. The Mayor explained
that the City now has a Pavement Management Plan where all
streets in the City have been prioritized, the District
Council representative could share that Plan, a recent
Council workshop cited infrastructure as the number one
concern, the City may shortly realize somewhat more financial
stability, and a decision will need to be made as to what
gets repaired first, second, and so on, again suggesting
contact with the Council representative. Ms. Wagner surmised
from the comments that repair would still be some two years
away, however stated this has gone on too long. Mr. Clakel,
Rossmoor, said he opposes extending the operating hours for
Mr. K's Grill, and was advised he may wish to hold his
comments for the public hearing. Mr. Ken Williams, Trailer
Park, inquired if the City Manager and City Attorney were
familiar with the Covenants for the Trailer Park as there is
an issue coming up relating to the new Park owners attempting
to raise the rents, that needs to be discussed. Mayor Yost
advised that this item will likely be on the next Agency
agenda. It was stated the next Agency meeting will be March
22nd, 6:45 p.m. Mr. Reg Clewley, Catalina Avenue, expressed
his concern with the recent changes to the agenda, there is
no longer a Consent Calendar, items are now being placed
under the category of new business, this eliminates public
participation on a great deal of the agenda items. He
mentioned an ordinance amendment dealing with eucalyptus
grove preservation, yet the amendments do not go far enough,
a $100 fine for a first offense is not enough, $200 for a
second, and $500 for a third infraction, apparently within a
month, to which he questioned what constitutes an infraction,
suggested the fines should be levied per tree, the cutting of
one tree should be an infraction, and in the case of several
trees, subsequent violations should carry escalating fines
for each tree downed, with possibly a maximum of $10,000 per
tree. He stated the public should be afforded public
participation or such opportunity under the Consent Calendar
process, or, the opportunity for the public to remove items
from the category of new business, and there is no remedy
other than under the Public Comment process which limits
persons to five minutes. Mr. Clewley suggested
reconsideration of the recent changes to the agenda format
and a guarantee of public participation. Councilman Boyd
advised that the Consent Calendar has not been eliminated,
there were only a few such items therefore the Consent
category was not agendized, the Consent will likely be on the
agenda for next meeting even for just a few items. There
being no further comments, Mayor Yost declared Public
Comments closed.
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COUNCIL ITEMS
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4689 - GROUND WATER REPLENISHMENT SYSTEM -
PROPOSED
Councilmember Campbell requested that Resolution Number 4689
be held over pending the completion of the feasibility study
by the Orange County Sanitation District in conjunction with
the Orange County Water District. The Council honored the
request to hold this item over.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4690 - RED IMPORTED FIRE ANT CONTROL
MEASURES - SUPPORTING
Councilmember Campbell requested that Resolution Number 4690
be held over as well for the reason that the State Department
of Food and Agriculture has not yet determined which method
of eradication will be used, once that decision has been made
the Resolution will be brought back to the Council. As
reported in a news article this date, people do not want
aerial spraying as was done in times past, more needs to be
known about the types and impacts of the pesticides that may
be used. There was no objection to holding this item over.
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4694 - ORANGE COUNTY FIRE AUTHORITY
REGIONAL FIRE OPERATIONS AND TRAINING CENTER - SUPPORTING
REQUEST FOR FUNDING
Councilman Boyd reported that the Orange County Fire
Authority, with which the City contracts for fire and
paramedic services, has received an offer from the Irvine
Company for 16.5 acres of land on which to build a new
headquarters, the land having an assessed value of $10
million, however the conveyance must occur before January
1st, 2000, and in order for the Authority to receive this
land a site plan must be developed. He noted that the
existing facility in the City of Orange is about fifty years
old and antiquated. Councilman Boyd explained that the
Resolution conveys a request to the State for $3 million to
assist with the preparation of the site plan for this
facility, also, inasmuch as Seal Beach pays a contract price
for fire protection, the more the Fire Authority spends for
its infrastructure the more the City would pay, if the State
funding is realized, the less burden on the local tax dollar.
To a question of Councilman Doane, stated there is no fiscal
impact on the City relating to this request, there will be
some impact once the facility is approved and constructed.
Boyd moved, second by Yost, to adopt Resolution Number 4694
entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH SUPPORTING A REQUEST FOR STATE FUNDING FOR THE
ORANGE COUNTY FIRE AUTHORITY REGIONAL FIRE OPERATIONS AND
TRAINING CENTER." By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolution Number 4694 was waive~.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Doane moved, second by Boyd, to waive the reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the waiver
of reading shall be deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
after reading of the title unless specific request is made at
that time for the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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DEMANDS ON THE TREASURY
Doane moved, second by Boyd, to approve regular demands
numbered 22412 through 22596 in the amount of $384,077.69,
payroll demands numbered 2707 through 2849 in the amount of
$144,961.84, and authorized warrants to be drawn on the
Treasury for same.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4695 - BREITBURN ENERGY CORPORATION - WELL
21 - BOTTOM HOLE LOCATION - EXTENSION OF TIME
Resolution Number 4695 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
APPROVING AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO APRIL 14, 2000 TO RELOCATE
THE BOTTOM HOLE LOCATION OF WELL NUMBER 21 OF THE ALAMITOS
LEASE (BREITBURN)." By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolution Number 4695 was waived. Mayor Yost inquired as to
the proximity to the plume, and was informed it is
considerable distance, the plume nearer the NASA buildings.
The City Manager noted that Mr. Anthony, member of the Orange
County Water District, has offered to discuss with the City
any concerns relating to the plume issue. Yost moved, second
by Boyd, to adopt Resolution Number 4695 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4699 - COMPLETION - OFF MAIN STREET PARKING
LOT IMPROVEMENTS I SIGNAGE - PROJECT NUMBER 801
The Assistant City Engineer presented the staff report, noted I
that the original contract price was approximately $320,000,
there were some change orders and deletions, the final cost
is $303,000, the project is now substantially complete and
any remaining minor items will be completed before the
retention is released. He explained that pursuant to law the
City holds ten percent of a project cost until total
completion which is thirty-five days after the filing of the
Notice of Completion, if the minor items are not corrected
the City withholds two times the value of the corrections
from the retention. Councilman Boyd noted that he had
discussed his concerns with the Assistant relating to
landscape, lighting, and signage issues, and was assured they
would be corrected during the retention period.
Councilmember Campbell said upon observing the parking lot
she noted that there are no ramps from the front of the
handicapped spaces to the sidewalk as there should be
inasmuch as wheelchairs are not permitted to go behind cars,
therefore the lot is not ADA compliant. The Assistant
responded that he believed it is ADA compliant, that issue
was looked into and signed off by the design engineer,
offered to provide ADA language to the Council, his belief
was that there was insufficient space to put in a ramp. By
direction of the Council, this item was continued until the I
next meeting.
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS - EUCALYPTUS GROVE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE
Counci1member Campbell noted the reference to the penalty as
an infraction, inquired as to the corresponding fine, the
response was $100 for a first violation, $200 for the second,
and $500 for a third, to which Councilmember Campbell
expressed her preference for greater penalties. Councilman
Boyd asked if an infraction is defined and applied per grove
or tree given the definition of a grove as not less than
fifteen trees. The Director of Development Services pointed
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out that this item is submitted as was discussed by the
Environmental Quality Control Board, to the issue of whether
the penalty should be an infraction or greater, the option
would be that it be a misdemeanor, the problem with the
misdemeanor is that a penalty is assessed only by going to
court, and given the over-burdened court system they
typically place a very low priority on misdemeanor violations
of Municipal Code provisions, it is felt that the infraction
process is a more efficient method of getting the attention
of someone in cases where there are violations of the Code.
The Director noted that there are only two identified groves
of such trees in the City on private and City property, Gum
Grove Park over which the City has control, the other is the
windrow on the Bixby property along Seal Beach Boulevard,
that grove receives an inordinate amount of attention when
tree trimming takes place, the City is usually made aware
rather quickly and Bixby is aware of the process that they
need to go through. He pointed out that as the Code
presently exists it does not specify if a violation of those
specific provisions is a misdemeanor or an infraction,
therefore given the lack of specifying an infraction a
violation is automatically a misdemeanor which would require
going to court and have a judge impose a penalty assessment,
a difficult process, time consuming, and most often a judge
will attempt settlement rather appearance. The EQCB is
recommending an infraction process. with regard to whether
the penalty applies to a single tree or a grove of trees, a
grove being fifteen trees of a certain size above ground
level, the Director offered that in reading the provisions
his interpretation would be that the violation would be the
cutting down of one tree of the specified size in a grove.
The Manager said the intent of this item is to seek Council
direction as to treating a violation as an infraction or
misdemeanor. Councilman Snow inquired as to what created the
dimension of twelve inches at four and a half feet high, to
which the Director stated he was uncertain, it was developed
with the original ordinance in the mid-1970's, yet the EQCB
seemed to feel that is a fairly standard means of measuring
trees that the City desires to regulate. Councilman Snow
stated his assumption that this would not take into
consideration young trees coming up, to that the Manager
responded this is a means of determining when a tree reaches
protective status.
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Councilman Boyd moved to direct staff to prepare an
appropriate ordinance as recommended by the Environmental
Quality Control Board, the ordinance to specify that each
tree cut down or destroyed would be an infraction, damage to
two trees, as an example, would be two infractions, in a case
of damage to twenty percent of a grove that would become a
misdemeanor, as defined by Section 7D-3(b). Councilmember
Campbell seconded the motion.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4691 - AUTHORIZING DESTRUCTION - FINANCIAL
RECORDS
Resolution Number 4691 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING THE DESTRUCTION OF CERTAIN FINANCIAL
RECORDS." By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 4691 was waived. The Director of Administrative
Services presented the staff report, pointed out that this
item is the periodic disposal of financial records that are
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no longer needed, some records are required to be kept for
twenty years, those that are permanent are retained by means
of microfilm. with regard to a question as to retention
times, the City Attorney confirmed that Seal Beach is in
compliance with State law, that law applies to all cities and
there are different retention schedules for different types
of records. Councilmember Campbell noted that there is often I
information on invoices that is not reflected in the general
ledger therefore her request would be that paid invoices not
be disposed of. The Administrative services Director
explained that paid invoices and checks are not the type of
documents that are microfilmed prior to disposal, the
payables proposed for destruction are prior to June, 1992.
It was confirmed that from a historical perspective the paid
invoices have no real value. Boyd moved, second by Yost to
adopt Resolution Number 4691 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
AGREEMENT REVIEW - ORANGE COUNTY MARKETING COALITION -
VEHICLES I TRASH RECEPTACLES
The Director of Recreation and Parks noted a request of the
Mayor for review of the Orange County Marketing Coalition
agreements, one agreement provides five Marine Safety
Chevrolet Vehicles for a period of four years, a $78,720
benefit to the City, the second is for one hundred twenty-
five trash receptacles with a value of $35 each, the city
receives $2,000 in the first year for placement of the
receptacles on the beach, the total value to the City in the
first year was $6,073, the artwork for the receptacles is
reviewed by the Council with the ability to reject
advertising that is not deemed to be acceptable, thus far the
sponsors have been Mountain Dew, Gotcha, and the L.A. Times.
Mayor Yost reported receiving complaints with regard to the
trash receptacles and alleged commercialization of the beach,
he noted that from first observation the receptacles seemed
to be spaced about ten feet apart, to that he inquired if the
city has a say as to how many cans and the spacing, also if
the vehicle agreement is separate from that for the
receptacles. The Director advised that the City does have a
say and that the vehicle agreement is separate. Councilman
Boyd reported that a bakery has offered to provide the City
with blue or white heavy plastic cans that could be used for
trash, stated that putting cans on the beach with the Times
advertising is not a great personal issue to him however he
has received a number of complaints, primarily from residents
of Seal Way and Ocean. Councilman Boyd expressed concern
that the City is getting one hundred twenty-five cans, there
are an approximate three thousand beach visitors on a warm
day, yet the City is receiving only $2,000 and compared that
to a full page newspaper ad of $800 or more, suggesting that
if someone wants to advertise on the beach they should pay
the price for doing so, again referring to the bakery offer
of plain cans, as many as the City would like. Councilmember
Campbell mentioned a news article the prior day relating to
the beach advertising rights sold by Huntington Beach to Coca
Cola, Huntington is getting $300,000 per year and once a year
for the next ten years Coke will refurbish one of the City's
parks. To a question of Council, it was explained that a
wave runner is similar to a jet ski, a safety vehicle that
allows the lifeguards quick access to persons in the water.
Councilmember Boyd inquired if it is possible and what would
be the process to cancel the trash receptacle agreement. The
Director stated she would need to research the question, the
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initial contract was for five years with prOV1S1on for a five
year extension. Mayor Yost said he did not believe that
Huntington Beach understands the full implications of their
action for a number of reasons, Coke would likely be required
to sponsor events such as a marathon, they will probably be
required to provide drinks for City sponsored events as well,
and for a cost. He spoke for removing the L.A. Times
receptacles from the beach and that the agreement be
researched, his preference would be to see the beach void of
advertising. Councilman Doane cautioned against any breach
of the contract.
Councilman Boyd moved to direct staff to review the agreement
and provide options for discontinuing the contract for beach
trash receptacles. He noted that if the contract can be
discontinued he would work with staff to provide the heavy
plastic cans for refuse disposal. Mayor Yost seconded the
motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4692 - STREET CLOSURE - PACIFIC COAST
HIGHWAY/MAIN STREET - ANTIQUE CAR SHOW
Resolution Number 4692 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
APPROVING THE CLOSURE OF THE NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TURN
POCKETS LOCATED AT THE MAIN STREET/PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY
INTERSECTION." By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolution Number 4692 was waived. Boyd moved, second by
Doane, to adopt Resolution Number 4692 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
AGREEMENT - ARMORED CAR TRANSPORT SERVICES
Boyd moved, second by Yost, to approve the agreement with
Sectran Security, Inc. to provide armored car pickup service
for the City's daily cash deposits and parking meter coinage,
subject to approval by the City Attorney.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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ORDINANCE NUMBER 1435 - REDUCED BUSINESS LICENSE FEE -
PERMITTED HOME OCCUPATIONS - QUALIFIED SENIOR CITIZENS
Ordinance Number 1435 was presented to Council for second
reading entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
AMENDING SECTION 11-33 OF CHAPTER 11, ARTICLE II OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH REDUCING BUSINESS LICENSE FEES FOR
CERTAIN QUALIFIED SENIOR CITIZENS ENGAGED IN PERMITTED HOME
OCCUPATIONS." By unanimous consent, full reading of
Ordinance Number 1435 was waived. Boyd moved, second by
Doane, to approve the second reading and adopt Ordinance
Number 1435 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Approved the minutes of the December 14, 1998 regular meeting
and the January 5, 1999 regular adjourned meeting.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Yost
None
Snow
Motion carried
PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 99-1 - HOURS
OF OPERATION - MR. K's AMERICAN GRILL
Mayor Yost declared the public hearing open to consider an I
appeal of the Planning Commission approval of Conditional Use
Permit 99-1 with regard to hours of operation for Mr. K's
American Grill. The City Clerk certified that the notice of
public hearing had been advertised and mailed as required by
law, and reported no communications received relating to this
item. The Director of Development Services presented the
staff report, explained that the applicant is appealing the
hours of operation that were recommended by the Planning
Commission, the property in question was most recently
operated as Tortilla Beach on Seal Beach Boulevard just
northerly of Spaghettini's Restaurant, the site has been
vacant for approximately three years, is proposed to reopen
as Mr. K's American Grill, and noted the Council had been
provided with the detail of proposed interior and exterior
modifications/improvements to the building. The Director
reported the applicant had requested to operate the
restaurant from 11:30 a.m. until 1:00 a.m. daily, at the
Planning Commission hearing staff recommended hours of
operation from 11:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. daily, the reason
being that those are the hours allowed by the Conditional Use
Permit for Spaghettini's. He noted that the Planning
Commission had basically two different thoughts as to how to
treat the hours issue, one was to allow the business to
operate at maximum the flexibility felt appropriate by the I
Commission during the start-up period, if that became a
problem then at the six month review the City could restrict
the hours to something less, the other thought was basically
opposite, to restrict the hours tightly for the first six
months of operation then upon review if that did not seem to
be an issue the Commission could consider expanding the hours
of operation, the Commission ultimately determined to impose
the 11:00 p.m. closing hour, the applicant feels that is too
restrictive for his operation and to make the restaurant
profitable for himself and the City. The Director pointed
out that the report from staff provides the discussion of the
Commission, and the three basic findings that are necessary
for a Conditional Use Permit, the first, is the use permitted
in the zone, the answer being yes or the application would
not have been considered by the City, the second, is the use
compatible with the General Plan, it is, the property is in a
General Commercial Zone, the use of restaurant is permitted
subject to the issuance of a Conditional Use Permit, and
lastly, is the use compatible with the surrounding area and
the community in general, that the issue that the Commission
dealt with as to the hours of operation. He mentioned that
no individuals spoke in opposition to the request before the
Planning Commission, rather, it was primarily the concern of I
the Commission as to how this business operation should be
handled, somewhat of a mid-point between what the applicant
is requesting and the recommendation of the Commission as to
the hours of operation, possibly 11:00 a.m. until midnight,
Sunday through Thursday and 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m., Friday
and Saturday, with additional conditions for consideration
relating to landscape improvements and a contribution of
funds for a City entry identification sign. It was noted
further that the Resolution presented would be applicable if
the determination is to support the recommendation of the
Planning Commission with the 11:00 p.m. closing hour, an
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alternate Resolution presented as well should the decision be
to support the alternative position and conditions provided
in the staff report.
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Mayor Yost invited members of the audience wishing to speak
to this item to come to the microphone and state their name
and address for the record. Mr. Ron Bradshaw, representing
the Bixby Ranch Company, the owner of the property on which
the applicant has a lease. Mr. Bradshaw said he was present
to speak in support of the request of the applicant, the
hours of operation required by the operator to be a
successful restaurant operation in an area that is catering
to patrons who have other opportunities, as the property
owner the desire is that this be a successful operation not
only for the Bixby Office Park but also to be in keeping with
the concept of the restaurants that will be incorporated into
the Old Ranch Master Plan that will be forthcoming in the
near future, he would trust that the City shares the same
point of view for success of any business venture within the
City. Mr. Bradshaw pointed out the fact that there was a
lack of negative input from either written or public
testimony, the fact that the Spaghettini's Restaurant has
operated at that location for over twelve years with very
little public comments or issues brought by the Police
Department, and no creation of public nuisance that would
require extraordinary enforcement. He mentioned that Bixby
has long been looking for a proven operator, three years was
mentioned, but actually Bixby held off on putting an operator
at this location once work on the Master plan was commenced
because of wanting to make sure this would be a proven
operator and would fit in with the concept of development in
that area, there have been a number of interested parties,
some were more of a night club or bar concept, some fast
food, others just did not fit. Mr. Bradshaw offered that Mr.
K's does fit into the concept and is believed will be an
asset to the City, to the development, support of their
request is encouraged, also, because the issue is extending
the hours, in terms of what has been previously approved in
the area, his belief is that the concern of the Planning
Commission was that they would be extending or offering to an
operator hours that were not consistent with what has been
granted in the past. Mr. Bradshaw suggested that a policy
statement of consistency be adopted for all of the
restaurants that exist and will exist in the future that lie
within the Boulevard area between Old Ranch parkway and
Lampson Avenue, a maximum of four restaurants, two at the
Bixby Office Park and the two restaurant pads on the golf
course side between Lampson and the freeway. He noted that
he has been made aware that Spaghettini's has been operating
beyond the limits of their 11:00 p.m. CUP yet there is no
question that they operate a good, clean operation, they do
not require any undue enforcement, it is believed they are an
asset to the City, therefore there should not be punitive
action against that business but what should be done is bring
them into compliance, and this would be an opportunity to do
so, approve the extended hours for Mr. K's then allow
Spaghettini's the same consistency of operating hours. In
defense of Spaghettini's he said the property management
group has said on a number of occasions that when people are
looking for the Bixby Office Park they identify with
Spaghettini's, they are a top restaurant in Seal Beach,
certainly in gross revenues, and they should be encouraged as
long as they stay within the good grounds of operation, by
staying open beyond 11:00 p.m. it is expected their break
between food and alcohol sales is still within the seventy to
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thirty percentage range, and may be even greater with their
lunch business, in other words, first they are an eatery,
secondly they serve alcoholic beverages, and for anyone who
has been in that high end business they know that when it is
11:00 p.m. you do not require the patrons to leave, they are
typically repeat customers, you need to take care of them so
that they will come back, that has been much of the success I
of Spaghettini's. In reference to their operation of the
Chanteclair in Newport Beach, Mr. Bradshaw pointed out that
it is known they stay open later than 11:00 p.m. yet it is
one of the top eateries, it is believed that Mr. K's will
bring the same kind of success to Seal Beach as Spaghettini's
has. He spoke in support of approval of the hours requested
by the applicant and that consideration be given to bringing
the existing and future restaurants into the same compliance.
Mr. George Kookootsedes, the appellant, stated that he and
his family are the operators of the Chanteclair, the
Trocadero, and would like to be the operators of Mr. K's
American Grill in Seal Beach. Mr. Kookootsedes said he is
the third generation restauranteur, one of the things that
has defined the career path in the restaurant business is the
desire to be clearly intertwined in the communities in which
they do business, his family moved to California some fifteen
years ago with the expectation of bringing what had been
learned in Ohio and that which his grandfather had brought to
America from Greece, that with the idea of being able to
explore the opportunities that exist here, stating that they
have enjoyed the time spent in California and the
relationship with the communities in which they are involved. I
Mr. Kookootsedes stated it took them a long time to identify
where they would like to grow next, the location on Old Ranch
Parkway is one that is felt to be a good choice for their
kind of restaurant and operation, their principal customers
are not bar customers, night club people, or dine that late
as was sensed at the Planning Commission, they tend to be
locals and rely on the restaurant to be open certain hours
for dinner, a drink, and then go home, in addition, they
appeal to business clientele, the Chanteclair is somewhat of
a business restaurant, it does stay open past 11:00 p.m. on
occasion because they have major customers who have dined in
the restaurant and extend their evening to complete a
business transaction in the restaurant, from that the
restaurant benefits. Mr. Kookootsedes expressed belief that
their request for hours of operation is reasonable and the
closing hour will not be one that they will regularly stay
open until however they want the ability to stay open when
the need arises, in his opinion they will close most of the
time before 1:00 a.m., yet for the customers that may be in
the restaurant, for the success of the restaurant and the
City, it is important that they have that opportunity.
Mayor Yost invited members of the audience wishing to speak
to this item to come to the microphone and state their name I
and address for the record. Mr. Dick Lakle, Rossmoor, his
home backs to the area under discussion, acknowledged that
Spaghettini's is a good restaurant yet four to five times he
has called them due to noise, they have been gracious,
apologized for the inconvenience, and have taken care of the
problem. Mr. Lakle said he starts work about 5:30 a.m., goes
to bed somewhat early, when he hears engines and horns about
11:00 p.m. for approximately fifteen minutes that is not
necessarily bothersome, however if this is going to be
duplicated at 1:00 a.m. he may be upset, he has knowledge
that the City does have noise abatement laws, there may be
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additional police services needed, it is understood that they
will also have a patio where there may be music. To the
comment that there had not been opposition at the Planning
Commission, to his knowledge no one knew about this
consideration or they may have expressed an opinion. Mr.
Lakle was asked for one issue with Spaghettini's that he
could site and what hour he believes they close, to that Mr.
Lakle responded the periodic music or noise and about 11:00
p.m. Mr. Reg Clewley, Catalina Avenue, said he supported CUP
99-1 at the Planning Commission, then a day or two later
there was an incident that made him rethink his position, the
incident involved the Orange County Sheriff's Department
following burglary suspects from the Rossmoor area, the
suspects eventually rammed their vehicle into the proposed
Mr. K's restaurant. Mr. Clewley said by allowing a 1:00 a.m.
close of operations it creates an unnecessary and unwarranted
risk on the people of Rossmoor, the parking situation is
handy from a thiefs point of view, the cars from the
restaurant may not be expected to be totally gone until 2:00
or 2:30 a.m., which is more than adequate cover for someone
interested in criminal activity in Rossmoor. He spoke for
denial of the appeal and that the 11:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
hours of operation be applied.
By consensus of the Council, a brief recess was called at
8:20 p.m. The Council reconvened at 8:25 p.m. with Mayor
Yost calling the meeting to order.
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Mr. Walt Portman, Pansy Circle, questioned if this is to be a
restaurant or a bar, after 11:00 p.m. does not seem to be a
time that people are going out to dinner, and expressed his
opposition to a later closing. Ms. Donna McGuire, College
Park East, objected to a late closing, said she supports the
restaurant however after 11:00 p.m. believes it becomes a
bar. She stated she has no neighbor that wants this,
Spaghettini's is known as a destination point by being just
off the freeway, there are people from the area and outside
that will be leaving the area that have been drinking, it is
a busy intersection, one of the busiest freeways in the
world, an additional hazard is not welcome, it is believed
the people of College Park would prefer a 10:00 or 11:00 p.m.
closing, the restaurant will profit, of concern is the
potential for accidents keeping in mind the driving of her
own children, there is also the unknown factor of more
development, and if something should happen to the Mr. K's
restaurant, another restaurant can be found, whether Bixby
makes money should not be a factor.
Mr. Kookoostedes responded that Mr. K's is a restaurant,
offered that they have never owned a restaurant whose food
sales are less than seventy percent of total revenues, hours
of the Chanteclair and Trocadero have more to do with
allowing the people in the restaurant the opportunity to
conclude their business, the request is that there not be a
mandate that patrons must leave the restaurant at a certain
time. Mr. Bradshaw said with regard to progress in terms of
activity that will occur relating to the Old Ranch Towne
Center development, the lawsuit has slowed the process
somewhat yet things are going forward, grading plans are
ready, the archaeological group is reviewing the site, the
Corps of Engineers has been contacted for the 404 permit for
the drainage channel, meetings have been held with the tree
committee, an arborist has been retained to do an assessment
of the grove and all of the trees, given good weather it is
predicted that there could be ground breaking in about three
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weeks, asbestos has been removed from the pre-1980 bank
building, that building will be razed as soon as a permit can
be obtained from the City. It is felt to be in the best
interest of Bixby and the City and the identified tenants
that are forecasting an opening to go forward, it is felt
also that Mr. K's will fit in well with the overall
development plan, it is uncertain that delaying action on I
their request based upon what happens in the future would
have any major impact. It was clarified that the proposed
location of Mr. K's is in Council District Two, confirmed
that no entertainment permit has been requested nor does the
CUP allow dancing, reported that there is likely more than
seven hundred employees at the Bixby Office Park, and as to
the trees and wall that separates the Office Park from
Rossmoor, the wall was reported to be twelve feet in height.
Councilman Boyd noted his recent objection to the length of
the bar area initially proposed for the Hennessey's remodel
which was ultimately reduced from thirty-two to twenty-eight
feet and will seat twenty to thirty people, and to a question
of the applicant for Mr. K's reported the response was that
the bar seating will be about twelve. Councilman Boyd
suggested a Condition 31 to provide a reasonably small,
tastefully worded sign at the entry door to request that
exiting patrons be mindful of noise disturbances of
neighboring residences. Mr. Kookootsedes said there would be
no objection to the condition, however felt it should be
applied uniformly. Noting that Hennessey's was the latest
restaurant use to go through the process, Councilman Boyd
mentioned that many of the conditions placed on that business
have also been applied to Mr. K's, one being the requirement
for audit to assure that the requirements as a bonefide I
eating establishment are met, the applicant to be obligated
for the cost of same not to exceed $3,000. Councilmember
Campbell stated that the residents in the northerly portion
of the City do not want bars as does not downtown, her
preference would be an ordinance requiring a 11:00 p.m.
closing, this is a residential area, it is not right for
noise generated from a restaurant to wake surrounding
residents, and claimed that any such operation that is open
past 11:00 p.m. is a bar. Councilman Doane said he felt that
some of the important problems that the City is facing are
being missed. He claimed that because of past actions the
City has earned the reputation of being anti-restaurants, as
an example, there is a successful restaurant now operating in
the Market Place that first looked to locate in Seal Beach
until they learned of the City's reputation. Councilman
Doane pointed out that the City still faces financial
problems, restaurant business is at the top of generating
revenue, the more restaurants there are the more people that
will say Seal Beach is a great place to eat. He recalled
hearing anti-restaurant and anti-bar discussions for years,
there were those who even claimed that BJ's was a bar, this
reputation must be erased. Councilman Doane cited Mr.
Kookootsedes as the operator of two of the best restaurants, I
he now wants to bring one to this City yet limitations are
being placed on this business that would not be faced in
another community, and stated he does not want to see good
restaurants that want to come into town having to go
elsewhere because of limitations that are not conducive to
the restaurant business, the applicant knows what is needed
to operate successfully, the City needs him to operate
successfully so that needed revenues are generated, citing
the College Park residents who just asked when their streets
are going to be paved, the answer, when there is money to do
so.
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Councilman Doane moved to adopt the proposed Resolution for a
1:00 a.m. closing on Friday and Saturday and a midnight
closing Sunday through Thursday. Councilman Snow seconded
the motion.
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The Mayor asked the hours that Spaghettini's is actually
open, is there any documentation, to that the Director of
Development Services responded there is nothing that staff is
aware of, there have not been complaints, their closing hour
is supposed to be 11:00 p.m. however there have been comments
that they are open until midnight. The Mayor asked also how
many complaints have been lodged with the Police Department
over the past twelve years. The Director noted that the
staff report reflects information relating to crimes in
reporting districts, the district Spaghettini's is in is also
the Office Park, most of those statistics are ones where
there may be an arrest yet the crime may have taken place
elsewhere, there are few crimes in that district, believed to
be possibly five in the past year. Mayor Yost offered that
the Council had made a decision to go forward with the Bixby
project, it is essential to assure that that decision is
successful, yet there needs to be respect for the people who
live in College Park East and Rossmoor, his preference would
be to see guidelines for all of the restaurants in the area
as two new restaurants and the Towne Center are coming, there
is need for the revenue they generate, that is needed if the
infrastructure is going to be dealt with, agreed that it is
necessary to attract businesses and be business friendly yet
while being respectful of the nearby residents. Mayor Yost
said his preference would be a midnight closing.
Councilmember Campbell suggested a trial of a midnight
closing for a period of six months. Councilman Doane said he
felt what is proposed is a good package as far as what it
will do for the City, and would accept a six month review as
part of his original motion. Councilman Boyd pointed out
that the CUP is for a period of six months therefore it will
receive automatic review. To comments of Councilmember
Campbell, Councilman Boyd said he wished to respectfully
disagree, his feeling is that that area of the Boulevard is
not a residential area, there are some Rossmoor homes that
back to the Office Park, that area is considerably different
from the downtown, Main Street area, it is remembered that a
few years ago Main Street was an area that was nearly
blighted, the occupancy rate was low with numerous vacancies,
today as a restaurant or business leaves the vacancy is
filled within three months at a rate of upwards of $2 per
foot. He pointed out that the Seal Beach Boulevard location
proposed for location of Mr. K's was vacant for three and a
half years, which makes no sense, and agreed with Councilman
Doane that that is due to irresponsive planning by past
decision makers to not work with Bixby to fill that vacancy.
His feeling is that the Office Park with its seven hundred
employees is under served by restaurant services, an example,
lunch hour patrons of Spaghettini's either need reservations
or will face a wait. Councilmember Campbell offered that she
has no problem with the restaurant, it is the closing hour,
and it backs to the residential area of Rossmoor. Councilman
Boyd again noted that this is a six month CUP, the same kind
of conditions are being applied as was imposed on Taco Surf
in Surfside where in that case the business is just sixteen
feet away from residences, he made reference to the condition
relating to litter and trash receptacles that prohibits
outdoor dumping between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 7:00
a.m., that the same kind of condition imposed on downtown
restaurants to avoid evening noise. To a question of
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Council, the City Attorney confirmed that the Council could,
by separate motion, direct staff to consider the consistency
matter as suggested by Mr. Bradshaw. Councilman Boyd read
two additional conditions that the applicant has agreed to, a
landscape improvement plan for the frontage along Seal Beach
Boulevard and a contribution of $12,500 to a freeway off-ramp
entry monument sign. The appellant confirmed that the
estimated cost of renovation of this facility is $1 million.
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Boyd moved, second by Doane, to conclude discussion of this
item.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Doane
Campbell, Snow, Yost
Motion failed
Mayor Yost said no matter what this restaurant is allowed the
fact is that Spaghettini's has a 11:00 p.m. closing hour, to
which he asked if the intent is to then amend their CUP to
allow 1:00 a.m., also, there will be two additional
restaurants across the street, will they too be allowed 1:00
a.m., allowing 1:00 a.m. would be precedent setting for the
others, his preference would be midnight and applied to all.
Councilman Boyd inquired of the applicant if he was willing
to accept a midnight closing daily, to which Mr. Kookootsedes
he was not should all other conditions remain in tact. To
question of what he would desire to be changed, Mr.
Kookootsedes responded that it would be the condition for
contribution to the monument sign, that is something that was
not disclosed initially, they are willing to make an
investment in Seal Beach in consideration of the fact that
they want to be successful in Seal Beach and be part of the
community, adding that he did not feel their request was
unreasonable for what they believe are necessary operating
hours for success, which is also success for the City.
Councilman Doane responded in the negative to a question of
amending his motion to reflect a midnight closing hour daily
if the monument sign donation condition is eliminated.
Councilmember Campbell again stated that the 1:00 a.m.
closing would be precedent setting, would apply to the
existing and proposed for a total of four restaurants at that
intersection which could mean considerable exiting traffic at
1:00 a.m., and of particular concern is the traveling through
the Seal Beach Boulevard and Lampson Avenue intersection by
young, teenage drivers, again supporting a midnight closing.
Councilman Doane objected to the painting of a scenario of
droves of vehicles leaving the restaurants at 1:00 a.m.,
citing the fact that restaurants are not full until either
midnight or 1:00 a.m. closing. Councilman Boyd referred to
his experiences as a patron of the Chanteclair, usually in
late evening hours after or due to other commitments, on
those occasions there have been a number of notable persons
in the restaurant, it is not felt that Mr. K's will have the
same type of traveler traffic yet likely business people who
are enroute home at a late hour, that would be more common to
Monday through Friday customers, and pointed out once again
that 1:00 a.m. would be Friday and Saturday only with a
midnight closing the remainder of the week. Councilman Boyd
made mention of the Hellman project, the golf course area
that will have a restaurant facility and most likely will
host banquets and weddings from time to time, to which he
inquired if they too would not be allowed to remain open
until midnight or 1:00 a.m., suggesting that conditions can
not be applied equally citywide as the community is different
and very diverse. Councilmember Campbell argued that if
there is a restaurant in the middle of the golf course that
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is sufficiently far enough away from homes, as is the Old
Ranch Clubhouse, her concern is that this restaurant backs to
the Rossmoor homes, complaints have been received also from
residents of the condominiums to the north with regard to
noise from a fast food establishment. She stated her belief
in representative government, she represents her people, they
have contacted her and asked that she not support the request
to be open until 1:00 a.m. The City Attorney noted
considerable discussion relating to other locations, advised
that this item will not set a precedent, each property is
unique unto itself, however if staff is directed to come back
with uniform regulations that will then establish a
precedent, at this point this application will have no impact
on any other property. He pointed out that there was an
additional condition proposed by Councilman Boyd relating to
a sign at the entry/exit of the restaurant relating to
control of exterior noise to be made part of the motion, and
it was noted that the provision for audit was covered by
Condition 16, also, the applicant has gone on record as
accepting all conditions provided there is approval of hours
of operation of 11:00 a.m. until midnight Sunday through
Thursday and 11:00 a.m. until 1:00 a.m. on Friday and
Saturday.
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Vote on the motion to sustain the appeal, approving the hours
of operation as stated by the City Attorney, and additional
conditions proposed by staff and Councilman Boyd, by the
adoption of Resolution Number 4693 entitled "A RESOLUTION OF
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH SUSTAINING THE
PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF CUP NO. 99-1 AND REVISING THE
PERMITTED HOURS OF OPERATION, PERMITTING AN ALCOHOL-RELATED
LAND USE AT 3001 OLD RANCH PARKWAY (MR. K's AMERICAN GRILL)"
as amended. By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 4693 was waived.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Doane, Snow
Campbell, Yost
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CITY MANAGER REPORT
The Manager recalled a recent request of Council that the
City convey to Comcast Cable requests that have been made by
residents through them for added programming to their lineup,
the written response of Comcast was that the three channels
listed in the City's letter would result in increased costs
to all Seal Beach customers whether they requested the
channels or not. He said it is the intent of staff to make
Comcast aware of any such requests so that they know what
would be popular with some viewers, this serving to some
degree as an informal customer survey, and pointed out that
the City can not control programming pursuant to the Federal
Communications Act. With regard to the issue of the Consent
Calendar, there is a misconception as to what items public
comments can be made, the Consent Calendar is merely items
approved by one motion and has no effect on what the public
may comment on, in fact at the discretion of the Council
comment can be made to any item, Consent items are typically
those that are routine and most often do not require either
public or Council comments, in the future members of the
Council may request that routine items be placed on Consent.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared Public Comments open. Ms. Kathleen
Evers, Wisteria Street, mentioned that last fall the Army
Corps of Engineers provided documentation that the Balsa
Channel behind their home was going to be converted to a
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concrete channel rather than the rock channel, this in hope
of reducing the potential for flooding, as happened to some
properties north and northeast of the College Park East area
a few years ago. In response to the notice there were
comments returned to the Corp by several in objection to
cementing this Channel, there was also information relating
to environmental impacts and endangerment of species by
disturbing their habitat, it is uncertain as to what kind of
observation was made as there is multiple water foul in and
around that Channel, hawks, brown pelicans, ducks, herons,
terns, egrets, geese, etc., a concern also that the cementing
of the Channel will provide an easy access for unwanted
persons, there is concern with graffiti, the environment,
safety of children, decrease of property values, etc. Ms.
Evers expressed her concern that this project has been pushed
through, there was no response, no further notice, at this
point the adjacent residents do not know where to turn.
Councilmember Campbell recalled that during the rains that
had been referenced the Channel to the north of Lampson did
have some flooding, south of Lampson the Channel is wider and
the waters did not rise so much. There was further comment
from the speaker that she had video taped portions of that
rain storm, confirmed that there had been spillage northward
in Garden Grove and Los Alamitos, that is where improvements
need to be made, that the Channel is much wider south of
Lampson and again wider on the south side of the freeway
where it also goes into a dirt water bed. Councilmember
Campbell inquired if there is any way of having the subject
section of the Channel reviewed again. The Director of
Development Services said he would need to review the matter
with the City Attorney, noted that the Corps had sent
information, there was a negative declaration circulated, the
City commented on that document, it is uncertain at this
point what steps the City could take yet offered to explore
the matter. Mr. Reg Clewley, Catalina Avenue, requested
clarification from the City Manager to an apparent difference
of opinion. He said by placing all of the agenda items under
the category of New Business gives the Council too much
discretion as to whether public comments are permitted, there
are items that should continue to be placed on the Consent
Calendar where, until the last meeting, the public had the
opportunity to remove fro~ the Calendar and speak to any item
thereon, it appears that opportunity is being eliminated,
claiming that on occasion there have been items that should
have been placed on the Consent that intentionally were not.
At this meeting he said he did not hear an invitation to the
public to speak to New Business, questioned hearing the
matter of Mr. K's at this meeting, suggesting that the
Council should first be addressing issues that the Planning
Commission proposes in the order of importance, making
specific reference to the issue of rear yard decks, which he
deemed to be a safety issue and should be postponed no
longer. With regard to the public comment issue, the City
Attorney offered that it has been traditional for this City,
and required by the Brown Act, to allow any person to speak
to any item on the agenda, the Brown Act requires that prior
to the Council making a decision public comments be allowed,
that opportunity is provided under Public Comments. With
regard to the Consent Calendar items, the Attorney noted that
there is no law that requires a Council to allow persons to
pull items from the agenda, however because of this City's
Council consideration of the public they have often honored
their wishes, yet there is no legal requirement to pull items
from the Consent Calendar because a member of the public
wishes an item pulled, the opportunity to speak to any and
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all items on the agenda is afforded under Public Comments.
There being no other speakers, Mayor Yost declared Public
Comments closed.
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COUNCIL ITEMS
Councilmember Snow stated his agreement with some of the
actions taken by the Council at this meeting, the longer he
is in the organization the more it is appreciated, and he
will have further comments in the future. Councilman Boyd
said he felt there has been sufficient discussion regarding
the return of the Consent Calendar. He announced his town
hall meeting for the following day, Tuesday, March 9th, 7:30
p.m. in Council Chambers. He wished all a safe St. Patrick's
Day and acknowledged Chief Sellers and Captains Maiten and
Schaefer for their coordination of efforts with the business
community with regard to St. Patrick's Day festivities.
Councilman Boyd noted the next City election will be less
than a year from this date, that will be the Statewide
Primary, election for Councilmembers and Clerk, also
mentioned a prior request to consider certain Charter
amendments, he has two others, one is to Section 1010
relating to public works contracts, presently limited to an
expenditure of $5,000 or less without formal bid, the
proposal would be a limit of possibly $15,000 to $20,000,
also possible amendments to Sections 406, 604(bl and (cl,
701, and 707 relating to the appointment or termination of
department heads subject to City Council ratification. He
suggested the appointment of a Council ad hoc committee to
work with the City Attorney to review these and other Charter
amendments, and report back to the Council. Councilmember
Campbell thanked Girl Scout Troop 1282 for attending this
meeting, also announced that it is Girl Scout cookie time and
encouraged all to support their fund raising efforts. Mayor
Yost noted that the $5,000 expenditure limit is not a lot of
money, about half the cost of building a monument sign at the
College Park East entrance, and in jest it was pointed out
that it would also have to be put to bid. The Mayor
announced that the rear yard deck issue will be considered in
a month, thanked Mr. Gordon Duff, a marine biology teacher at
Los Alamitos High School and head of an environmental club
consisting of high school students that do water quality
testing at the mouth of the San Gabriel River, to which Mayor
Yost said he has posted the data collected from October 6th
thru February 22nd on his web page, Mr. Duff had requested
that a statement be made that this is not data from an
official governmental agency, however mentioned with cross
checking the data appears to be very accurate, to that the
Mayor said the first step in trying to fix something is to
determine just how bad the problem is. Mayor Yost mentioned
that the City of Los Alamitos has been formally requested to
provide any and all environmental information with regard to
the expansion of Ganall Lumber and the relocation of Plow
Boys, and said he looks forward to the completion of the
Bixby Towne Center. He mentioned also the sale of the
Trailer Park, one meeting has been held with the new owner, a
meeting is also scheduled for March 27th at 10:30 a.m. with
the Park residents, stating the Trailer Park is a special
place with special people. To a question of Council, it was
confirmed that the Council agendas are shown on the web page.
Councilman Boyd asked if it would be possible to include the
staff recommendation on the agenda for information of the
public with regard to items of New Business.
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The City Attorney announced that the Council would meet in
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Closed Session to discuss the item identified on the agenda,
a conference with legal counsel with regard to one potential
case of initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code
Section 54956.9(c). By unanimous consent, the Council
adjourned to Closed Session at 9:36 p.m. and reconvened at
9:49 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to order. The
City Attorney reported that the Council had discussed the
item previously identified, the Council gave direction to the
City Attorney, no other action was taken.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 9:50 p.m.
clerk
Approved:
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Mayor
Attest:
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Seal Beach, California
March 22, 1999
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:21 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Yost
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Badum, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Ms. Stoddard, Director of Administrative
Services
Mr. Dorsey, Assistant to the City Manager
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilmember Campbell requested that Items "G, H, and I" be
removed from the Consent Calendar for separate consideration.
Boyd moved, second by Campbell, to approve the order of the
agenda as revised.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried