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issues with regard to the expansion of the Ganall Lumber
facility and the addition of Plow Boys.
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the Council would meet in
Closed Session, pursuant to Government Code Sections 54956.9
(c) and (b), to discuss the items identified on the agenda, a
conference with legal counsel with regard to one potential
case of initiation of litigation and three potential cases of
anticipated litigation. It was the order of the Chair, with
consent of the Council, to adjourn to Closed Session at 8:36
p.m. The Council reconvened at 9:33 p.m. with Mayor Yost
calling the meeting to order. The City Attorney reported the
Council had met in Closed Session to discuss the items
identified on the agenda, gave direction with respect to two
of the matters, no other action was taken.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 9:34 p.m.
Attest:
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Approved:
Seal Beach, California
April 12, 1999
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:01 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order.
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The Pledge of Allegiance was led by five members of Boy Scout
Troop 642. Counci1member Campbell announced that this is a
Seal Beach Troop, founded by College Park East resident Dr.
Hood, she introduced each of the Scouts including one young
man who is an Eagle Scout candidate and has just completed
his Eagle project in College Park East. Councilmember
Campbell presented each Scout with a commemorative Seal Beach
pin, and thanked the Troop for their participation.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Yost
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Absent:
None
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Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mr. Badum, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Ms. Stoddard, Director of Administrative
Services
Mr. Dorsey, Assistant to the City Manager
Ms. Beard, Director of Recreation and Parks
Mr. Dancs, Assistant City Engineer
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilman Boyd requested Item "G" removed from the Consent
Calendar for separate consideration, and Councilmember
Campbell requested that Items "J" and "L" be removed, and
requested that the agenda be amended to consider
authorization of the preparation of a letter relating to
issues as a result of her recent Washington, D. C. trip.
Given the fact that the matter came up subsequent to the
posting of the agenda, the City Attorney advised that the
agenda may be amended by a four-fifths vote of the Council.
Yost moved, second by Doane, to include the request of
Councilmember Campbell for preparation of a letter, added to
the agenda under the category of Council Items.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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Mayor Yost requested that Item "M" be removed from the
Consent Calendar as well.
Boyd moved, second by Yost, to approve the order of the
agenda as revised.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
PRESENTATIONS
EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS
The Director of Public Works introduced and recognized Mr.
George Bernard, a twenty year employee in the capacity of
electrician and presently as an assistant in the Public Works
Administrative department, Mr. Bill Moran, a nearly twenty-
one year employee serving as a City electrician the duties of
which include traffic signals, water system motors, pumps,
etc., and Mr. Steve "Slick" Stockett, a thirty year employee
and presently a Public Works Supervisor. Mayor Yost
presented each with a commemorative City tile plaque in I
appreciation for their services to the community. At the
request of Councilmember Campbell, Mr. Stockett recalled that
in preparation for the pier reopening dedication ceremony,
the cement base for the bronze seal was poured too late in
the day, he volunteered to oversee the statue throughout the
night, the local press did an article, took pictures, and
tagged the seal statue with his nickname, "Slick."
PROCLAMATION
The Council proclaimed May 8th, 1999 as "Fire Service
Recognition Day" and Councilman Boyd presented the
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Proclamation to Battalion Chief Bill Bundy who accepted the
recognition with appreciation and extended an invitation to
all to visit the Fire Stations on the 8th.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared Public Comments open. Dr. Rosenman, 8th
Street, directed the attention of Council to a conference
announcement for May 1st, 1999 presented by the Los Angeles
and San Gabriel Rivers Watershed Council on the subject of
storm waters. He suggested that consideration be given to
authorizing attendance of members of the Environmental
Quality Control Board and City Council. There being no other
speakers, Mayor Yost declared Public Comments closed.
COUNCIL ITEMS
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BUDGET CALENDAR
The City Manager noted a proposed budget calendar for the
upcoming 1999/2000 fiscal year, the calendar providing an
additional period of time for any Council workshops that may
be desired. He pointed out that the budget process began
about February commencing with projections for estimated
revenues, by the end of this month there should be a
projection of ending expenditures for the current fiscal year
which is a basis for expenditures in the upcoming year, there
is review of the next fiscal year of the Capital Improvement
budget, anticipated sales tax from the Towne Center when it
opens is being looked at in terms of capital improvements
that have been deferred for years. The Manager noted that
the period from April 23rd through May 23rd is primarily for
budget workshops. Councilman Boyd mentioned that the
suggestion of staff was that the Council provide a list of
persons interested in the budget process, based upon past
inquiries or discussions, relative to capital improvement
scheduling or other budget matters, who would be invited to
participate in the public budget workshops. Noting again the
public workshop period from April 23rd to May 23rd and
submittal of the recommended budget to Council on May 24th,
Councilman Boyd recommended that the budget process commence
on April 26th at the Council level for discussion of possibly
two or three cost centers at each regular meeting thereafter,
a set aside of time for that purpose of about thirty to
forty-five minutes, that would increase public participation
and home viewing, that in lieu of submitting names of
interested persons from the Council district. Mayor Yost
said he would not object so long as this would not overburden
the agenda process. Boyd moved, second by Campbell, to
commence budget discussions at the April 26th meeting,
starting with an overview of revenues and expenditures in
summary with a recommendation from the Manager based upon the
Strategic Financial Plan, then look at the individual cost
centers.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
LEGISLATION - SB 216 and AB 1355 - SAN GABRIEL RIVER
CONSERVANCY
Mayor Yost reported that he and Councilmember Campbell
attended a Gateway Cities meeting of cities in the watershed
area of Los Angeles and San Gabriel Rivers, SB 216 and AB
1355 are pending before the State legislature to deal with
the watershed of the San Gabriel River. He mentioned that
neither bill provides for representation for Orange County
even though there are ten cities in the County that are
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affected by both bills, there is also no provision for water
quality or pollution that ends up in the River, also no
language addressing any beach impact or cleanup issues, these
concerns were brought to the League of Cities and the cities
represented at that meeting, the Orange County League has
agreed to write a letter as will Seal Beach, and the
Surfrider Foundation has agreed to do so as well. Mayor Yost
said this item is simply an approval to send letters to the
authors of those bills advising that there are three things
that needs to be done, that there needs to be provision for
Orange County representation inasmuch as it affects ten
cities, a request for at least three seats on any
Conservancy, that water quality concerns need to be
addressed, the condition of the beach and beach cleanup as
well. With regard to gaining two or three seats on the
governing board, Councilmember Campbell suggested that one of
those be a representative of Seal Beach, noted that both of
the bills address Long Beach as being at the mouth of the San
Gabriel River, having representation on the board, yet it is
Seal Beach who lies downstream, also at the mouth of the
River, and is the recipient of the majority of debris, at the
recent meeting the attendees unanimously agreed that Seal
Beach should be a member of the Conservancy, and pointed out
that this does not merely include the cities along the San
Gabriel but the tributaries thereto constituting the
watershed. Mayor Yost noted that there was some concern as
to when the Conservancy usurps the rights of individual
cities when it comes to planning, zoning, and other
regulations, the interests of Seal Beach are quite different
than that. Boyd moved, second by Yost, to approve the
outline for the preparation of letters over the signature of
the Mayor to be forwarded to the local State legislators, the
letters to include the request for Seal Beach representation.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
REQUEST - BUDGET AMENDMENT - PIER RESTROOM PROJECT
Councilman Boyd made reference to the current project to
retrofit and restore the pier restrooms, his contention is
that if a public works project is to be done it should be
done once, done right, and complete, the restroom project
fails to meet one of those goals. He noted that there is
severe structural damage at the base of the pier, this has
existed for some years, the area is fenced off, the location
is where there is an arching of the pier and one can walk
from one side to the other, in the last section of concrete
there is spalling, which is deterioration of the concrete.
When the Council considered restoration of the restrooms,
there was not consideration given to any pier structural
damage in that area, the pylons, the spalling, and provided
pictures of the area. Councilman Boyd suggested that the
Council move forward with an amendment to the project budget,
the cost of the repairs is presently uncertain, so that I
repairs can be made to the entire area. The Director of
Public Works noted that the Council has approved a contract
for an outside structural engineer to inspect the pier, the
estimate of cost was somewhere between $25,000 to $40,000
depending upon the amount of damage that is uncovered, in
that as the deteriorated concrete is removed more may be
found. Councilman Doane asked if this was not part of the
Main Street Specific Plan, did the architects not include
such repair, to which the Director said the repair was not
included in that project, the restrooms were actually a stand
alone project with the intent to get them operational, in
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fact the pier damage in the vicinity of the restrooms is
relatively minor, the more extensive damage is in the span
outside the restroom area and closest to the ocean, somewhat
substantial damage in the columns that has to be dealt with,
that was not included in the restroom project program. The
Manager said that the Main Street Plan included and provided
that proposals would be solicited from vendors for a small
beach oriented business beneath the pier, to provide
improvements and construct that facility, at that point the
kind of structural improvements that would need to be done
had not been evaluated, that could have been negotiated if
the Council had chosen to seek proposals from private
concessionaires. Councilman Boyd countered that it was not
the intent of the Councilor at least not his intent as the
representative of this district, to put a concession below
the pier. Councilman Snow inquired if it is possible to
gunite the areas where there is spalling, or another means,
to which the Director responded that the consultant looked at
that, the process that will be recommended is essentially
digging around the existing rebar, blasting and cleaning for
rust, recoating with an epoxy type material, bonding the
surface, forming and injecting, gunite is an alternative that
was also recommended however that could be a problem
depending upon the operator of the equipment. Mayor Yost
inquired as to what this would do to the time frame for the
restroom project in that the Council had requested they be
open for the summer season. The Director said he was
uncertain as to an exact time frame in that once it is
started it is not known how extensive the repairs will be, a
guess would be one to two months, acknowledging that the
restrooms could be opened and this repair done separately, of
concern would be such activity in the area closer to summer.
Councilman Snow inquired as to the age of the concrete, the
response was likely sixty to sixty-five years, to that
Councilman Snow said this is the first time he has seen
reinforcement bar of this type, the Director explaining that
some of that is from the buildings that were formerly in that
location. The Mayor noted that this request would be an
unbudgeted item. The City Manager stated the intent was to
take the Main Street projects in phases, this repair would
require a budget amendment, acknowledged it is something that
needs to be dealt with, the idea is to methodically move
towards getting the entire area improved and the deferred
maintenance taken care of, in his opinion it is unrealistic
to think that all of this work could be done in a month or
month and a half, that because it has not been determined
exactly what approach to take, there is also specifications
and the bid process, there may be some funding sources that
could be looked at in the meantime, the intent was to place
this repair in the capital budget for the upcoming fiscal
year with a start sometime in the fall. Councilman Doane
said keeping in mind that this is a high priority it may be
well to make this project a budget proposal that will be
looked at in the next few months. The Mayor agreed, finish
and open the restrooms then tackle this problem. Councilman
Boyd reiterated his preference that if a project is to be
done it should be done right and at one time, this should
have been included with the restroom project yet it was not
taken to that extent, his belief is that there is enough
money in the capital budget from projects that have been
delayed or deleted that could be utilized instead of doing a
budget amendment for this repair, yet, it is not his intent
to draw down reserves for this. He said if it is the desire
of the Council to hold this over until fall that will be
okay, the Council was assured that the restrooms would be
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open for Spring break, that has passed, they are likely up to
a month behind, and when something is delayed it is always
another year given the fact that things are held over during
the fall and winter because it is the rainy season, bids are
called for in the fall, then it is winter, the delay usually
another year. Councilmember Campbell expressed concern with
integrity, the comment was made that it is no known what is I
needed until one can view the damage, yet if there is
substantial damage it can not be ignored, if there is
something wrong the Council needs to know and fix it.
Councilman Boyd said his motion would be to request staff to
determine the cost of repair, the estimate being between
$25,000 to $40,000, authorize staff to seek bids, rough bids,
from three reputable contractors who have experience with
this type of work, and present them to Council at the next
meeting if possible, the cost and length of time to complete
the repair from start to finish, it may be six rather than
two months or two weeks. In reference to the pictures
provided, Councilman Doane asked if any are in the restroom
area, to which Councilman Boyd responded there were two. The
Director stated that the areas reflected in the pictures will
be repaired as part of the restroom contract. Councilman
Boyd said if it is planned that they be fixed then questioned
why they were painted over. The Director said that was
something the contractor had done, in-house staff will be
used for that repair, the intent with this project was to try
to use in-house staff, and the reason for the range of cost
for the spalling is because it is a time and material
project, again, the actual cost will not be known until the
project is done, it is known however that the structure is I
not falling down, the repair is more cosmetic, the engineers
have assured that structurally it is save, a fire truck could
be run upon the pier, probably not a lot of excess equipment,
however it is safe. Councilman Doane stated he is not
opposed to the proposal yet would not want to see the repairs
to the pier in any way postpone the restroom completion.
Mayor Yost expressed his opinion that this repair should fall
in line with the other needed projects, it is not budgeted,
he would not want to use staff time to seek bids before the
next meeting, budget hearings for next fiscal year are
forthcoming, this will require additional staff time,
suggesting that for now efforts be directed to getting the
restrooms open. The Manager offered that once the Council
receives the upcoming budget materials and has opportunity to
compare this project with the other capital projects,
including funds available, if this is felt to be a high
priority bids could be sought immediately in the fiscal year
rather than waiting until early fall. It was clarified that
the intent then would be to separate the pier repairs from
the restroom project, that the restrooms be operable for the
summer season, the pier then considered for the next budget.
Councilman Boyd pointed out that the Capital Improvement
Project list is for a five year span, it can be seen where I
the pier repair would fall in that list, his contention is
that $200,000 is being spent for the pier restrooms then a
chain link fence will be placed around the area under
discussion, as it was for the past nine years.
Councilman Boyd moved to direct staff to seek rough estimates
from three reputable contractors having experience is this
type of work/repair, that information to be provided to the
Council at the next meeting for further consideration.
Councilmember Campbell seconded the motion.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Yost
Motion carried
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REQUEST - COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES - REVENUE AUGMENTATION -
TIDELAND BEACH FUND - BEACH CLEANUP
In dealing with issues relating to the beach, Councilman Boyd
said he has become aware that there are other cities,
specifically the City of Long Beach, that receive funding in
the form of revenue augmentation from the Los Angeles Board
of Supervisors for beach cleaning. Long Beach receives
$500,000 per year from Los Angeles County to aid with their
beach cleaning as a result of the San Gabriel and Los Angeles
Rivers, yet Seal Beach is the last stop for the San Gabriel,
most of the downstream debris does not flow around the jetty
into Alamitos Bay or onto their beaches, rather, it ends up
on the Seal Beach beach. Councilman Boyd said in talking
with the Chairman of the Board of Supervisors, Mr. Don Knabe,
and staff, it was determined that a written request could be
made to the Board for augmentation funds specifically for
beach cleanup, Long Beach has seven miles of beaches, it is
believed that the calculation is about $63,200 per mile. He
requested that staff be directed to draft a letter
requesting, but not limited to, expenses for beach cleaning
operations with a five year history, total tonnage removed
from the beach as well as storms and unforeseen rainfall
events, and a report with as much detail as possible of the
cost of a beach closure.
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Councilman Boyd moved to direct staff to prepare such request
for an amount within reason of about $125,000 to $130,000 for
the approximate two miles of beach in Seal Beach. It was
said that the Los Angeles River impacts Long Beach but the
San Gabriel really does not, to which the comment was made
that Long Beach believes the San Gabriel does. It was
mentioned that Long Beach has been receiving this monetary
assistance for more than a decade, and Seal Beach is in need
of a new beach rake, sanitizer, etc. Councilman Doane
seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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FUNDING REQUEST - LOS ALAMITOS AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL TOWER
Councilmember Campbell noted that the recent trip to
Washington, D. C. was specific to lobby for the El Toro
facility reuse as an airport, also, funding for the Los
Alamitos Control Tower for another year. She requested that
a letter be prepared to Congressman Rohrabacher seeking
approximately $1 million to fund the operation of the Tower
for the upcoming year, and that the Congressman in turn write
to the Military Construction Appropriations Subcommittee to
request a line item for that operation, and although the
deadline for such request has past it is hoped that the
Congressman can assist.
Boyd moved, second by Yost, to direct staff to prepare a
letter as requested. Councilmember Campbell requested that
the letter be forwarded by the upcoming Friday.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "E-1" thru "M"
Boyd moved, second by Snow, to approve the recommended action
for items on the Consent Calendar as presented, except Items
"G, J, L, and M".
E-1. Approved the waiver of reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that
consent to the waiver of reading shall be
deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
after the reading of the title unless
specific request is made at that time for
the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
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F. Adopted Resolution Number 4700 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER
4678 TO REVISE THE REPRESENTATION TO THE
WEST ORANGE COUNTY WATER BOARD." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 4700 was waived.
H. Approved the minutes of the February 8th and
February 22nd, 1999 regular sessions, and the
March 2nd, 1999 regular adjourned session.
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Authorized the Mayor to sign a letter
to the Orange County Historical Commission
and the California Office of Historic
Preservation in support of the efforts of
the U. S. Submarine Veterans of World War
II in designating the Submarine Memorial at
the Naval Weapons Facility, Seal Beach, as
an historical site.
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Accepted the resignation of Ms. Sonia
Johnston as the District Two appointee to
the Archaeological Advisory Committee, and
deemed the position to be vacant for the
unexpired term ending July, 1999.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "G" - DEMANDS
Councilman Boyd noted that the warrant list shows specific
check numbers with the amounts set forth for each, and
requested that year to date totals be included on the agenda
as are the warrant and payroll totals. Councilmember
Campbell said of more interest to her would be expenditures
for the specific expense code or account. Boyd moved, second
by Doane, to approve the request for a year to date I
expenditure figure to be shown on future agendas.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
RESPONSE LETTER - LEAF BLOWER POLLUTION HAZARDS
Councilmember Campbell requested to be provided a copy of the
Orange County Grand Jury Report relating to leaf blower
pollution hazards prior to taking action on this item. Boyd
moved, second by Doane, to hold this item over pending
receipt of the Grand Jury Report as requested.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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TRAFFIC SAFETY OFFICER REQUEST
In reference to the fiscal impact, Councilmember Campbell
noted the availability of sufficient funds for initial
implementation in this fiscal year due to short term salary
savings from recent staffing shortages, and that future costs
will be offset through revenue generated from traffic
violator fines, to which she expressed some concern with the
budget process. The City Manager said if the recruitment is
started by mid-April someone may be on staff by mid-June,
with only a couple of weeks until fiscal year end, possibly
bring in a lateral officer that has already been trained, and
it is certain there will be enough citation revenue to cover
the first month of the fiscal year. Boyd moved, second by
Campbell, to authorize the Police Department to hire an
additional motorcycle officer utilizing existing budget
resources.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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RESPONSE LETTER - DRAFT GROUNDWATER MONITORING STUDY - NAVAL
WEAPONS STATION SITES
Mayor Yost reported receiving calls relating to the news
article regarding the plume originating from the Weapons
Station, those persons had the impression that the City would
be doing nothing about it for some ten years, his intent is
to assure people that the City is taking an active interest
in the matter, to questions as to what they could do, he has
requested the addresses of the various organizations to which
people can write which he will post on his web site.
Councilmember Campbell asked if this is something the
Restoration Advisory Board is working on, to that the Manager
advised it is the Orange County Water District, also,
Councilmember Boyd reported that the representative to the
Metropolitan Water District indicated concern as well and the
District will be monitoring and maintaining continued contact
with regards to this issue. The Director of Development
Services confirmed that the Restoration Advisory Board is
monitoring as well.
Yost moved, second by Boyd, to authorize the Mayor to sign
the response letter with regard to the Draft Groundwater
Monitoring Study at IR Sites 1 and 7, Naval Weapons Station
Seal Beach.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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ORANGE COUNTY FIRE AUTHORITY - EQUITY STUDY
The City Manager stated this item pertains to a long standing
issue of equities among Orange County Fire Authority member
agencies, a lengthy study by a fiscal consultant to determine
which cities are under paying or over paying, Seal Beach fell
within a range that deems this City is paying its fair share,
slightly underpaying by less than ten percent, of concern is
that if this study and recommendations are implemented there
may be a withdrawal of members of the Fire Authority. The
Manager noted that he and Councilman Boyd have been
participants in this for some time and a conclusion has been
drawn that in the interest of preserving the Authority in its
present strength it would be best to simply receive and file
the report. Councilman Boyd presented a background of the
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Fire Authority, an independent agency of the County, Seal
Beach being a contract city with the Authority, all of the
member agencies, including the County, pay for services by
two means, a cash contract as is Seal Beach, or as structural
fire fund members through the payment of property taxes, the
amount that is determined necessary to provide those services
sometimes exceeds or is below the amount contributed by the I
structural fire fund city, Irvine is an example where their
property values are high, their population exceeds the
demands for services, they are a donor city whereby they
contribute $3.6 million too much into the Fire Authority
annually. When the Authority was formed there was a call for
an equity study, and although it is general consensus that
this may have been a good exercise it is uncertain whether
the money paid into the structural fire fund can actually be
returned to the cities that have overpaid. In all, to
implement the Fire Equity Study as presented does not address
all of the far reaching issues that would be caused by doing
so, of great concern is that the integrity of the
organization be assured, the twenty-two cities and
incorporated areas that are served by the Authority.
Councilman Boyd requested direction of the Council, he and
the City Manager have come to consensus that a letter should
be forwarded to the Chairman of the Authority suggesting that
three things be done, that there be a minimum five to seven
year commitment to maintain a seat on the Board, that the
Equity Report be received and filed, and that a future needs
assessment based on growth and population increases be
completed, that to address some of the concerns of the donor
cities. Councilman Boyd made a comparison to the purchase of
a home before and after Proposition 13, differences in the I
amount of taxes for equal services, pointed out that there is
an inequity in the State with regard to taxation, that will
need to be addressed at the State level, not through the Fire
Authority. Councilman Boyd requested authorization to
forward the letter to the Fire Authority Chairman and to vote
his conscience as a member of the Authority Board.
Doane moved, second by Boyd, to authorize that the referenced
letter be forwarded recommending that the Orange County Fire
Authority Board of Directors table the Equity Plan, and
direct the City's representative on the Board to represent
this position at future Board meetings.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES - SEAL BEACH BOULEVARD/
WESTMINSTER AVENUE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS - PROJECT NUMBER
665
The Director of Public Works explained that this is a request
to enter into an Engineering Services Agreement with Tetra
Tech, Inc. to provide the first of a two phase project to
improve the intersection of Seal Beach Boulevard and I
Westminster Avenue. He noted that as previously identified
in the Traffic Impact Report of 1990/91 and more recently
confirmed by the Bixby EIR Traffic Study, the intersection is
operating at a lesser capacity than it should. He pointed
out that this project is being funded in two phases as there
were two opportunities to obtain OCTA funding, the projects
one hundred percent funded by Measure M, and will improve the
capacity of the intersection. He pointed out that the first
phase includes an additional southbound left turn on Seal
Beach Boulevard, a total changeout of the existing signals,
this system needs to be tied in to the rest of the system and
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ultimately tied into the Kitts Highway intersection. As to
the second phase, that has actually not been determined nor
is the Council being requested to approve phase two at this
time. The approach to this project was to investigate the
intersection further, determine what is really needed through
a more exact engineering analysis, and then come back within
the next year or so with a proposal for phase two. Mayor
Yost inquired if any Bixby mitigation monies go towards this
project, to which the Director explained that this
intersection was substantially below capacity before the
Bixby project, that project may have made the capacity worse
by a minor amount, and since Measure M monies are covering
this project there will be no need to use Traffic Impact Fees
to improve the intersection, that allows taking all of the
Impact Fees received from the Bixby project and put them
towards the overcrossing project, that is a substantial match
of about $1.6 million total. He confirmed that these are not
discretionary General Fund monies, rather Measure M funds
that can only be used for streets and roadways. With
specific reference to phase two, Councilman Doane asked how
traffic will be handled when the actual improvements are
being made. The Director stated that traffic will improve
greatly, one of the deficiencies that was not identified in
the preliminary report is the east and westbound movements on
Westminster, it is presently not certain exactly what will be
required however what is envisioned is the widening of an
additional lane in each direction approaching and leaving the
intersection in order to improve the capacity as well as
additional space for turn movements, there may also be a need
to acquire small amounts of right of way, that too would be
funded by Measure M, the whole idea is to improve traffic at
that intersection and make it safer, the second phase will
also include an analysis of the alignment south of the
intersection on Seal Beach Boulevard. To an inquiry of
Councilman Doane, the Director responded that the thought is
to widen the roadway at the intersection, with regard to
working with the Navy for property acquisition, the response
was that that may not be necessary as a portion of that
parcel is an easement of the Sanitation District and it is
felt they will work with the City, there is additional right-
of-way that is available easterly of the intersection, more
so than westerly, the west side would likely be the area
where most right-of-way difficulties may occur. Councilman
Boyd expressed concern with this proposal for the reason that
he did not feel there is much wrong with the subject
intersection, he as well as the residents drive it
frequently, this is the type of project that takes
considerable time and energy of City staff that could be
better and more meaningfully spent on projects within the
City that affect the residents directly rather than those who
use Westminster and Seal Beach Boulevard as alternate routes
to their homes. He said he understands that the project is
totally funded by Measure M yet that does not alleviate his
concerns with regard to staff. An issue mentioned was
capacity, his opinion remains that it is felt the Boulevard
functions quite well with the exception of the area of the
overpass near Lampson Avenue. His concern is that the City
improve the signalization, replaced with equipment that
eliminates median traffic or collision hazards, specifically
the signals in the median area, again, he would not like to
see a significant expenditure of time and energy that would
not be a true benefit to the City, his feeling is that the
people are not looking to increase the capacity of City
streets. In response to a question from Councilman Boyd as
to funding, the Director stated that phase one is about
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$290,000, phase two, which will vary depending on the right-
of-way, $600,000. Councilman Boyd said he finds it difficult
to understand that that intersection needs $900,000 of
improvements other than new signals, removal of the concrete
medians replaced by some landscaping. Councilman Doane noted
that there is no traffic problem mid-afternoon yet with rush
hour there is considerable commuter traffic that travels
Westminster, when there are problems on the freeway, as an
example, Westminster does become impacted to the point that
it takes more than one signal cycle to get through the
intersection. Councilman Snow said he has observed this
intersection many times, agreed that the signal system should
be improved, however he could not envision how the lanes can
be widened or a lane added without encroachment onto property
such as the filling stations. Councilmember Campbell
recalled that when the railroad tracks were removed that
resulted in the sewer lines needing to be replaced, this City
has an aged infrastructure, in this case widening of the
intersection may again cause a sewer line problem, and asked
what such replacement might cost. The Director advised that
there is a project presently planned to replace that line
from the County pump station at Westminster back to Lopez
Drive, it is anticipated that bids will be sought sometime in
the next fiscal year, the City is fortunate also to have
obtained a grant to pave that entire length of roadway as
well. The Mayor mentioned that it has been some time since
staff has been requested to apply for grant monies so that
funds are realized from outside the General Fund for needed
projects, in this case application was made and funds will be
awarded to do this project, yet now the Council is
questioning whether the project should be done, to that
Councilman Boyd said he did not recall directing the staff to
pursue this project or its funding. The Director explained
that this project was identified, along with other
intersections, when the City did the Traffic Impact Study for
fair share and impact fees, these are peak operational
problems, sooner or later they will become greater problems.
He noted that the funds could be returned, yet reminded that
if they are the monies can not be used for any other purpose.
Councilman Doane offered that he was not opposed, also, it is
part of the traffic mitigation that will impact Seal Beach
Boulevard when Hellman is developed and Bixby goes in, the
Boulevard will then be more crowded, the only time it becomes
a problem is when the traffic hits an intersection, there is
question with widening as to where that land will come from
in that it can not be taken away from the service stations or
the sidewalks, if land could be obtained from the Weapons
Station then he could see no reason to not follow through
with the project. The Manager said he believed most of the
questions will be answered by the first phase. The Director
added that part of the phase one work is to more clearly
identify exactly what is needed, it is suspected that
additional through lanes are required however it has not been
determined how much space will actually be needed, it is
anticipated that a small portion, possibly ten feet or so on
each side may be required, no matter what design is chosen
every effort will be made to keep it at minimum, the desire
would be to not impact the businesses or pay considerable
monies for right-of-way. Question was posed if the
concentration is on Seal Beach Boulevard rather than
Westminster. The Director explained that they are tied
together, citing as an example, if one is traveling north or
southbound on the Boulevard during peak hours and there is
substantial traffic on Westminster there will be a longer
wait at the traffic signal on the Boulevard as the volume is
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r~s~ng every day, therefore if the intersection remains at
the same capacity the amount of green time on the through
move on Westminster will need to be raised, becoming an
inordinate amount of wait time on the Boulevard, the higher
capacity on Westminster will make the red through time
shorter on the Boulevard, the same on Westminster.
Councilmember Campbell offered that when the bridge is
widened it will be done from the east as there is
insufficient area to the west, currently, as one goes north
on the Boulevard past Leisure World the right lane becomes a
right turn only lane, inquiring if, when the bridge is
widened, will there be three through lanes plus one right
turn only lane onto the freeway. That was indicated as being
the understanding, three through lanes on either side.
Councilmember Campbell mentioned that then some area will
need to be taken from the Weapons Station and of concern as
well is the drainage channel. Councilman Boyd said this is
not specific to Bixby, the issue is capacity, said that there
is need to increase the capacity of the intersection, yet the
population is not growing so who is being served by doing
this project, it is not someone who lives in this City, staff
contention is that there are so many projects, not enough
time or help, therefore he suggested that staff be redirected
to projects that are more meaningful to the residents of the
City. Councilman Doane countered that the comment is
somewhat shortsighted in referencing the City, forgetting
that there is College Park East, West, and Leisure World. To
that Councilman Boyd responded that he was not, that by
decreasing the intersection it decreases pollution and
traffic, if the capacity of that intersection continues to be
increased to accommodate the growth around this City people
will tend to use these roadways as an alternative route, if
people come here to live, work, or shop that is one thing, to
just travel through and provide no benefit is another. A
question was posed as to those residents who travel daily to
school, work, etc. on the Boulevard, also what is entailed in
each phase. The Director explained that the first phase is
the engineering work, replace the signals, tie Kitts Highway
signal to the Boulevard/Westminster, and an additional
southbound left turn lane that was previously identified in
reports and needed as part of the Bixby project, phase two
would be improving the capacity of the Westminster through
move and turn movement which may require additional right-of-
way and may impact the storm drain whereby some modifications
would be required, that a reason for the greater cost, this
portion needs to be looked at in more depth. Given the
mention of straightening the curve on Seal Beach Boulevard,
question was if that is phase one or two, the response of the
Director was phase two, phase one will look at the conceptual
plan, the design for phase two will not occur until staff
returns to Council with a proposal, at this point phase one
will look at the improvements as a concept only, what will go
forward will be the plans and specifications, actually to be
built, will be the southbound left turn lane on Seal Beach
Boulevard and total replacement of the traffic signals,
including removal of the median poles. Question again, both
phase one and two will be funded by Measure M money, response
was affirmative, pointed out also that this money is not
available for small street projects, rather major arterial
projects, also, objection was raised as to the amount of
staff time being expended for these projects, a considerable
expense to the City.
Councilman Boyd moved to deny the recommendation to approve
the professional engineering services agreement with Tetra
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Tech, Inc. in the amount of $40,000 for Westminster Avenue
and Seal Beach Boulevard, however direct staff to secure
Measure M funding for new and improved signals and to
continue landscape design for the medians that are currently
not landscaped. Councilmember Campbell seconded the motion.
Councilman Snow inquired if staff is in agreement with the
motion to improve this intersection, the response of the
Director was that from an engineering viewpoint this
intersection has been identified in previous engineering
reports, this is a means to satisfy the Traffic Impact
Report. Councilman Boyd asked how many other similar
intersection improvement projects there are, as identified in
the 1991/92 report. The Director reported that funding has
been approved for the overcrossing, recalled that other
projects were Pacific Coast Highway/Seal Beach Boulevard,
Balboa/12th Street/Pacific Coast Highway, the intersections
at the 405 ramp, about seven or eight intersections in all,
and confirmed again that funding has been approved for the
405 overpass and this project.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Snow
Doane, Yost
Motion carried
The Public works Director advised that the funding can not be
used for median strips or signals alone therefore the funding
will need to be returned. It was confirmed again to
Councilman Boyd that the funding can not be used for signals
alone, explained that the funds are meant to improve
capacity, part of that is signal improvements, in order to
alter the funding package it would be necessary to drop out
and reapply in the next cycle, which is about one and a half
to two years. Councilman Snow stated he had not been aware
that the Measure M funding had been approved, to that
question was posed if there was then an intent to reconsider
the vote.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
Snow moved, second by Doane, to approve the Professional
Services Agreement with Tetra Tech, Inc. to provide planning,
environmental, and professional engineering services in
conjunction with the City's planned Seal Beach
Boulevard/Westminster Avenue Intersection Improvement,
Project Number 665, the cost not to exceed $40,000, and
authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement on behalf
of the City.
AYES:
NOES:
Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
Boyd
Motion carried
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STATE FUNDING REQUESTS - BIKEWAY / WATER QUALITY / ANAHEIM
BAY CHANNEL
Mayor Yost noted that this item relates to a funding request
for capital improvement projects for the bikepath on Marina
Drive, connecting with the Regional Bikepath through Sunset
Beach and Huntington Beach, monies to reduce Marina from four
to two lanes with a center median, Councilman Boyd has been
helpful in pursuing this with the State legislators, and
although this has yet to be funded the efforts will continue.
The Public Works Director first mentioned that staff has in
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fact forwarded this request to Sacramento. He pointed out
that what is being sought is about $650,000 for a Seal Beach
Regional Bikeway, to which he showed a diagram of the Santa
Ana River and San Gabriel River trails, in between an off-
road trail that essentially ends at Sunset Beach, the plan is
to continue that trail along Pacific Coast Highway, down Seal
Beach Boulevard into downtown Seal Beach, then tie into the
San Gabriel River trail, and clarified that the Class I trail
ends at Sunset where it becomes a striped bike lane to
Anderson Street. The first phase of this project would be
from Anderson to Seal Beach Boulevard and then tie into the
Electric Avenue Greenbelt, from there to Marina Drive where
the on-street bike lane will be restriped, then tie into the
new Marina Bridge and the San Gabriel River trail. He noted
that the Marina Drive project will involve storm drains in
addition to the bike lane, mentioning also that there needs
to be some extensive work to tie this into the greenbelt, yet
it was felt the cost would not be accepted at the State
legislature level, which could run a few million dollars for
just that project, sources of funding for that project are
being looked at, OCTA has expressed some interest in
assisting, it was felt that at this point the most cost
effective and successful project now would be the Coast
Highway bikeway segment in that it requires State support,
thus far support has been received from the local CalTrans
District Twelve, and with the help of Councilman Boyd,
Supervisor Silva as well. It was pointed out that
legislation is being carried by Assemblyman Baugh. The
Director tracked the bikeway for the purpose of information,
from Anderson Street an on-street trail on the southerly
shoulder of the roadway adjacent to Surfside, the bridge
cantilevered along the existing bridge, likely of plank, and
then a meandering trail through the remainder of residual
right-of-way along Coast Highway to Kitts Highway, at that
point building another small bridge and probably utilize the
old abutments from the railway bridge, the bikeway will then
go down Seal Beach Boulevard and tie into Electric to
complete the link. He brought to attention the fact that
there is presently no such facility on the Highway, there are
joggers, bicyclists, traffic at high speed, and continued to
show a mock-up of the conceptual appearance of this bikeway,
from Anderson Street westerly the curb would be extended out
for what can be described as a sidewalk bikeway, along
Surfside the proposal would be to move the traffic lanes
towards the inland side to provide extra space with a
concrete barrier to separate a Class I bikeway from the
highway, further west would be the meandering trail with a
small greenbelt which would improve that area substantially.
The Director mentioned also a request for $350,000 for water
quality purposes, proposing some type of boom structure for
the San Gabriel River and funding for additional beach
cleaning if possible, the last project relates to removal of
concrete debris and rubble that remains from the former
bridge over the Anaheim Bay Channel, State funds are being
sought since this was once a State highway bridge. Question
was posed if that bridge was downed during the 1933
earthquake, the responses were that the existing bridge was
constructed in 1969, the old bridge was demolished by the
Navy in 1967 or 1968. Councilman Boyd commended staff for
their efforts to put this funding request together, this in
response to a call from Assemblyman Baugh on Thursday, the
packet was in his office by the following Wednesday, it is
hoped that Senator Ross Johnson will lend his support as
well. He said to his knowledge this is one of the most
significant requests that Seal Beach has ever made to the
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State legislature, he would suggest a trip to Sacramento with
members of staff to visit with certain members of the
legislature, and would request that that be included in the
motion to receive and file. Mayor Yost said he would like to
see an addendum to include something for Marina to assure
that it goes from four to two lanes, especially if money is
spent for travel to Sacramento. Councilman Boyd noted that
Friday was the deadline for legislator requests, will then be
considered by budget sub-committees probably in the next
thirty days, then by the end of Mayor June the budget will
be on the Governor's desk. Boyd moved, second by Doane, to
receive and file the report relating to the State funding
request.
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NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 8:40 p.m., the Council reconvened at
8:50 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to order.
MARINA DRIVE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT - BRIDGE TYPE SELECTION
The Public Works Director stated that the Bridge Type
Selection Report, a standard CalTrans report, basically sets
the design of the bridge replacement over the San Gabriel
River on Marina Drive, to this additional information has
been included regarding the structure type, configuration of
the traffic lanes, and type of construction. The structure
type is basically a cast in place, pre-stressed box girder
structure, similar to freeway bridges with clean lines,
sealed top, bottom and sides for a nice appearance, standard I
piles are proposed as they work better in this situation and
are easier to construct, as to the traffic configuration, the
traffic analysis identifies that the existing lane capacity
is more than is required, a smaller volume of vehicles using
this bridge was identified, therefore the cost of the bridge
can be reduced by building a smaller bridge and upgrading the
pedestrian and bicycle facilities which are important in the
area given the connection to the San Gabriel River bike trail
as well as a major connection to Old Town, Long Beach, and
the commercial uses in the area. As to the type of
construction, the Director said there are basically two ways
to build the bridge, either close the bridge and proceed with
construction, or, construct the facility in phases, keeping
one or two lanes open, it is uncertain whether it is possible
to keep the lanes open however may be a possibility if there
is no pedestrian or bicycle access, the difference in cost is
about $1 million and an approximate additional year of
construction. The Report recommends closure of the bridge
for construction, since it is in a substantial drainage area
work can not be done in the riverbed from fall until spring
during the rainy season, that shortens the time available for
construction. He noted that the consultant has determined
that the bridge could be demolished, then construct the I
structure that is in the streambed, continue working and
complete the bridge within a year time span, or if the phased
project is selected it could take two to two and a half years
to complete the bridge. The Director said weighing the
inconvenience and additional cost the recommendation would be
to do a single phase project, and requested authorization to
forward a letter to the Long Beach city Council endorsing
this Report, seeking their support to move this project along
with an anticipated start in the spring of next year and
completion by fall. Mayor Yost expressed support for the
proposed reduction of travel lanes to two and indicated it
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would be of benefit to complete the project in a year rather
than so much longer, a phased project with a single lane and
signalized would not be convenient for anyone, especially for
a period of two or more years, also, for those who have
concerns with regard to potential development in the Long
Beach marina the two lane bridge with pedestrian and bicycle
facilities will serve to deter that, it also protects and
enhances the quality of life for Seal Beach.
Boyd moved, second by Campbell, to receive and file the
Structure Type Selection Report for the San Gabriel River
Bridge at Marina Drive, BR. NO. 53C-0029, and authorized the
Mayor to sign a letter supporting the Report recommendations
to the Long Beach City Council.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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PLANS/SPECIFICATIONS/ESTIMATES - CENTRAL AVENUE / 4th STREET
ROUNDABOUT - PROJECT NUMBER 803
The Director of Public Works stated that the plans and
specifications are the next step towards construction of a
roundabout at the intersection of 4th and Central Avenue, the
design is felt to be good, not elaborate, functional, a
number of safety features including lighting, landscaping, a
nice addition to the community. In keeping with the original
intent of this project, once this project is completed there
will be a monitoring program of traffic volumes and speed,
and as stated previously a speed survey has been conducted on
5th Street. Mayor Yost urged that 5th Street be considered
as soon as possible as they are part of the same problem.
Councilman Boyd inquired if the Council has reviewed the
plans and specifications as there was an initial concern with
the size of the circle, inquiring if it has been reduced to
the smallest possible. The Director confirmed that it has,
one thing, the plans will show a rolled curb on the outer
perimeter of the traffic circle, a mountable curb that can be
driven over by emergency vehicles, moving vans, etc., the
rolled curb is actually a few feet in from the perimeter, one
concern was, if there is not a substantial movement, wheel
turn, to get around the circle a vehicle will not slow down,
the intent of this project is to slow traffic. He noted that
before the actual bid process the intent is to physically
paint a couple of circles, possibly even some cones, in that
intersection that can be test driven. Councilman Boyd
offered that the intent was that this project be effective,
not a giant circle, actually a pilot project for other areas
of the City, the circle reduced from thirty feet to what is
now a twenty foot diameter raised planter with three feet of
rolled curb, thus a twenty-six inch total diameter, his
preference being to keep the structure as small as possible
and reduce the percentage of right-of-way required. The
Director reported that this has been designed in a way that
there is no longer need to acquire right-of-way. It was
mentioned however that for this to be effective it needs to
have the effect of slowing traffic to negotiate the movement.
Councilman Boyd mentioned that the cost associated with this
structure has a direct relationship with the amount of
concrete poured. The Director reported that the original
street was concrete, drainage is accomplished by means of
cross gutters at each leg of the intersection, to construct
the roundabout will require some alteration of the drainage,
upon further analysis of alternatives it appears to be just
as cost effective to remove what exists and pour new
concrete, asphalt could be used yet it is such a small amount
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it may not accomplish the intent. The Director pointed out
that some colored concrete is proposed, as is the rolled
curb, and the apron too is a different color, that is not
meant to be decorative or elaborate, rather, it is to provide
a contrast so that a driver can see the rolled curb and not
drive over it, of prime concern is visual and some of the
costs are driven by safety, what is desired is a quality
project. Councilman Boyd inquired as to the difference
between utilizing an existing concrete apron around the
circle and pouring new concrete at the corners where it is
necessary to decrease the public right-of-way, is substantial
money being saved by not pouring the entire intersection with
concrete, to that the Director offered that there is not that
much of a cost saving, what was found was with a minimal
amount of removal and replacement there is a higher quality
project when finished, some of the concrete could be saved
yet considerable drainage difficulties would be realized.
The Director confirmed that the final completed plans will
show a twenty foot diameter with a three foot rolled curb,
however clarified that the lip of the gutter of the rolled
curb is actually five feet out, the high point of the curb is
three feet, and stated that the plan looks bigger than the
actual structure.
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Boyd moved, second by Doane, to approve the plans and
specifications for Project Number 803, the construction of a
Central Avenue / 4th Street intersection roundabout, and
authorized staff to initiate the public bidding process.
Councilman Snow asked if it has been determined that the
$50,000 will be the maximum amount no matter what change of
design. The Director responded in the affirmative, however
it is hoped that lesser bids will be received and possibly
City staff can be used to some degree.
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NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT - LANDSCAPE / ENVIRONMENTAL
ENHANCEMENT / MITIGATION - SEAL BEACH BOULEVARD/WESTMINSTER
AVENUE
The Director of Public Works explained that this is a joint
project between the Recreation and Public Works Departments,
a grant received several years ago from the State under the
Environmental Enhancement and Mitigation Program for the
purpose of building medians and planting parkway trees on
Seal Beach Boulevard and Westminster, basically a seed money
project as there is not enough money to construct medians all
along those streets, however the intent was to do from Bolsa
to Lopez Drive with assistance of the future Hellman
development, some isolated plantings on Westminster, and the
parkways on Westminster and Seal Beach Boulevard, there are a
number of agencies involved, the Orange County Conservation
Corp, the Navy, Hellman Ranch, and the City. He noted that
part of the grant provides for some design money for a I
concept plan for medians and plantings. A substantial number
of trees will be planted as a result of this project,
retaining the consultants will help with taking the first
step of this project. The Manager noted that this was tied
to the Bolsa Chica development, the argument being that the
impacts created regionally by a project of that magnitude
warranted some environmental enhancement, the grant amount
was $235,000.
Boyd moved, second by Doane, to approve the professional
services agreement with Integrated Urban Forestry to provide
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planning, conceptual design, and project management services
in conjunction with the City's Seal Beach Boulevardl
Westminster Avenue Landscape Project at a cost no~ to exceed
$6,400, and authorized the City Manager to execute the
agreement on behalf of the City. Councilman Boyd asked if
this project identifies medians and parkways or just medians,
to which the Director responded that the grant calls for
medians and parkway trees. Councilman Boyd said his
preference would be that the greatest detail of work and
expenditure of time be spent on medians rather than parkways,
which is felt be of greatest benefit, explaining that a
parkway is typically from the curb and gutter to the
sidewalk, about thirty six inches, also, the Director noted
that in areas where there is no sidewalk it would be from
edge of roadway to the right-of-way marking. On Seal Beach
Boulevard there are parkway gaps.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
PUBLIC HEARING I ORDINANCE NUMBER 1419 - ZONE TEXT AMENDMENT
96-1 - DECK STRUCTURES
Mayor Yost stated that he would turn the conduct of this
public hearing over to Mayor ProTem Campbell inasmuch as this
matter affects his area directly and he wished to listen
closely to the testimony.
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Mayor ProTem Campbell declared the public hearing open to
consider ZTA 96-1 relating to deck structures in rear yard
setbacks. The City Clerk certified that notice of the public
hearing had been advertised and mailed as required by law,
and reported receipt of one communication from Mr. Reg
Clewley, Catalina Avenue, which had been provided to the
Council.
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The Director of Development Services presented the staff
report, this a reconsideration item, considerable information
provided as attachments to the staff report that gives a feel
for this in-going issue. He explained that in late 1997 an
ordinance was introduced to make changes to the Code to allow
non-permitted pre-existing decks on properties that abut the
Gum Grove Park and Hellman property to remain, this subject
to a minor plan review through the Planning Commission, part
of that ordinance also allowed persons seeking to build a new
deck in the rear ten foot area to make application through a
Conditional Use Permit process, the second reading of the
proposed ordinance failed, the Council requested staff to
come back with suggestions. Between 1997 and 1998 this issue
was returned to the Planning Commission for further
consideration, the primary issues were Code enforcement or to
amend the Code to not have to go through the enforcement
process. This issue began with 1733 Crestview with a deck
being constructed at the rear of that property, a stop work
order had been issued, the owners of the property applied for
a variance to approve the deck, upon Planning Commission
denial of Variance 5-90 the matter was appealed to the City
Council, the Council denied the Variance also, with that
denial the Council directed staff to not proceed with a Code
enforcement action, rather, develop some type of amendment to
the Code that would allow that structure, and others within
the area, to be legalized through some review process at the
City level. Thereafter staff prepared Zone Text Amendment
96-1, scheduled hearings before the Planning Commission in
1996, the Amendment went through a number of reviews at both
the Planning Commission and City Council level, the
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Commission ultimately recommended denial of the Zone Text
Amendment, that there be no change to the Code and that
existing Code be enforced. An appeal of that decision was
filed, the Council held a public hearing on the appeal,
between the start of hearings in late 1996 through 1997,
until early 1998 is when the ordinance was considered and
ultimately rejected. At this point the City continues to be
under instruction of the City Council to not enforce the
existing ordinance provisions for non-permitted structures
within the rear ten feet of properties that abut the Hellman
land and Gum Grove Park. It was noted that the City
considered an ordinance that would allow those non-permitted
structures to come before the Planning Commission for a
discretionary review to determine whether or not they should
be allowed to remain, the Council ultimately rejected that,
the matter is now back before this Council to determine what
direction to go with this issue. He noted that from a staff
viewpoint, a decision one way or the other would be greatly
appreciated, it is difficult to explain to the public that
staff is under instruction to not enforce a Code provision in
one area of the City, also, this issue has taken considerable
City Council, Planning Commission and staff time. The
Director directed attention to the photographs contained in
the staff report, reviewed by the Planning Commission as
submitted by a member of the public, photos to be shown also
that were taken by staff, this will provide greater
understanding as to the types and magnitude of the structures
in the area that are of concern. Councilmember Campbell
inquired if some of the four to six structures have been
inspected as to whether they meet Code, the response was that
they have not. The Development Services Director showed
photos submitted by area resident, Mr. Clewley, and then
those taken by City staff of twenty-two properties on
Crestview and Catalina Avenues and Coastline Drive having
various structures such as storage sheds, block walls,
fences, retaining walls, swimming pools, spas, patio
roofs/overhangs, sunrooms, playhouses, tree houses, and
decks, permits for some, no permits for others. As a point
of information, it was explained that if a storage shed is
less than 120 square feet in size no permit is required, if a
playhouse is less than 50 square feet in size no permit is
required, if a structure is less than 120 square feet in size
no permit is required, and if the structure is more than 10
feet from the rear property line, no Code violation of the
setback exists. Mayor Yost asked if there is a height limit
for a deck structure, how is it measured, the response was
that it is measured from the flat portion of the property
closest thereto on the same lot. It was explained that where
the decks exist is primarily where the rear yard slopes down
into Gum Grove Park, in fact there are some properties where
the property line is higher at the fence line and the
property slopes down into the residential area yet most slope
into Gum Grove Park, that is why the elevated deck structures
are seen. It was clarified that there is a permit for one of
the rear yard deck structures, also, there are a number of
retaining walls along the back of those properties, permits
were found for all but one. To a question of whether
retaining walls are allowed to go to the property line,
whether a retaining wall can be constructed up to the ground
level where a deck could be built, the response was
affirmative, most are between six and sixteen feet in height,
some have fencing on top, to the rear is sometimes backfilled
for a flat lawn or deck area, that however is not an issue
under consideration. Some properties have been terraced, one
has a stairway to the Gum Grove with a gate, the terracing is
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allowed by Code. The Director explained that there is a six
foot utility easement across the rear of all of the subject
properties, building in the easement is not prohibited, if
one wishes to do so it is typical to obtain written consent
from the owner of the utility easement to do so, even though
it is likely permission may not be given to build upon the
entire easement as access is required. To an inquiry as to
whether retaining walls into the easement are a problem, the
response was that retaining walls are at the boundary of the
property and once constructed and the property is leveled it
is actually easier for the utility company to access,
question was posed also as to by what means could a utility
company underground the power lines, under retaining walls,
in the easement, on Gum Grove land. While showing the
photographs, the Director pointed out the improvements for
which permits do and do not exist for each of the subject
properties. As to the 1733 Crestview property, where this
matter began, this deck has not been permitted, a stop work
order was issued, there was a change of ownership of the
property, the new owners were made aware of the non-permitted
structure, and they in turn signed a document acknowledging
their awareness of it, that the City was going through a
related zone text amendment and whatever the outcome of that
process they would need to comply. The Director mentioned
that there are two avenues for consideration, to uphold the
recommendation of the Planning Commission to not change the
Code and commence an enforcement action for those properties
that appear to be in violation of the current building
regulations of the City, or another option would be likened
to what was considered by the previous Council in 1997 and
1998, and similar to the Council action in 1992 and 1993 with
the adoption of standards for covered roof access structures,
at which time there were a number of such structures
constructed, building permits issued, and the City required
all of the previously permitted structures to come in for a
minor plan review. That process is likened to the action
being proposed in this case for Planning Commission review of
the deck structures to assure they meet minimum health,
safety, and public welfare standards, also, provision that
future deck requests go through the conditional use permit
process, the difference in process is that the CUP is a
public hearing item, noticed to three hundred feet of the
subject property, the minor plan review is a consent calendar
item and noticed within one hundred feet. Mayor Yost
inquired as to the age of the subject decks, to which the
Director said that is unknown as permits were not issued, the
one permitted deck was issued in 1989, some were likely built
in the mid to late 1970's, possibly twenty-five to thirty
years old. With regard to any problems with the CRAS
process, the Director offered that they were somewhat easier
to deal with, in that case the stairways were allowed as part
of the building permit, prior to the minor plan review they
were allowed by right under the Zoning Code, that issue began
with a CRAS on the Hill that had an openable dome and was
determined to not be in keeping with the intent of the Code,
that triggered calling in all permitted CRAS for review and
reapproval, the only CRAS required to make modifications was
the one on the Hill, all others were reapproved. In response
to the Mayor, the Director said from what can be observed
there appears to be five to six properties having decks in
this case out of eighty-two lots, and that assumes that the
storage sheds are portable, under the one hundred twenty
square feet, that can be moved if need be. The City Manager
recalled that at a previous hearing one of the solutions was
to allow the pre-existing decks to stand, with no enforcement
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action, new applications would need to request a
conditionaluse permit or a variance, the concern was that
with approval of the pre-existing structures that would be
rewarding unpermitted construction, and 'for those who may
have waited for the outcome would be at a disadvantage. The
effect of taking no action and let the Code stand as is would
be to direct staff to inspect the subject decks and commence
an enforcement action against the property owner, there would
be no opportunity for appeal or hearings, which could also
involve court proceedings in the event the property owner did
not comply. He mentioned that if the Council were to choose
the minor plan review process that would allow the
opportunity to establish reasonable conditions of approval
for these non-permitted decks, landscaping enhancements an
example.
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Mayor ProTem Campbell invited members of the audience wishing
to speak to this item to come to the microphone and state
their name and address for the record. The City Attorney
made reference to a letter received from Stephen Reg Clewley
dated April 10, 1999, its twenty-two pages to be entered into
the record. Issues raised by means of the letter are desired
to be addressed prior to receiving testimony, a request that
attachment eight, a Minority Report from Commissioner Dahlman
be suppressed and not entered into evidence, to that the City
Attorney said he had not seen the attachment, and reported
that Mr. Dahlman abstained from this matter when it was
before the Planning Commission, therefore his testimony is
treated as a resident and not as a Planning Commissioner,
therefore for those having an attachment eight it should be
treated as a letter from a resident, not as a Planning
Commissioner. Mayor Yost made reference to the issue of a
statement that 'no further hearings are required,' to which
the City Attorney explained that at the time of that comment
a number of public hearings had been held, there was a first
reading, a second reading, and request for additional public
hearing at that time, his ruling had been that no additional
public hearing was necessary as there were prior public
hearings on the matter, with respect to whether one is
required at this time, he had not looked at that as the
Council can always allow public testimony on any matter
therefore there is no legal problem seen with allowing people
to speak, there is no violation of any law by allowing people
to speak. Question was posed if there is a time limit for
each speaker or is that set by the Council, to that the City
Attorney confirmed that a Council Resolution allows five
minutes, that is the rule unless the Mayor wishes otherwise,
there is no applicant in this matter therefore no concern
with due process considerations, merely allow each person an
equal amount of time.
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Mr. Arthur Nighswonger, Catalina Avenue, stated he resides on
the opposite side of the street from the properties under
discussion. Mr. Nighswonger spoke for allowing the
construction of decks in the rear setback, with permit, as
appropriate, the properties are unique in that they do not
back to a neighbor, the persons on these three streets will
be backing to a golf course or other development. Again
stating that he would support the amendment of the Code to
allow construction of decks in the rear yard setback. Ms.
Lisa Long, Crestview Avenue, mentioned that she saw the
photographs shown of her home and decking, and brought with
her the paperwork relating to the deck with the approvals
thereon. She stated at some point they may want to replace
the existing decking, the ten foot setback seems to be unfair
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because in her case the fence is on the property line yet
this says that one can not use the last ten feet of their
property, some consideration should be given because of the
way the ground slopes downward. Mayor ProTem Campbell said
she believed that when the lots were originally designated,
the lots on Catalina, because of the slope, were allowed a
longer depth in consideration that there was less usable
space. To a question of Mayor Yost, the Director confirmed
that notice of the hearing had been sent to each property
owner and occupant, however had not been noticed that photos
may be shown on cablevision. Mr. Reg Clewley, Catalina, said
he was not certain the Council had an opportunity to review
the information he had presented. Mr. Clewley confirmed that
Mr. Dahlman had been asked to abstain from this issue at the
Planning Commission, he did, attachment eight of the
documents is the cover page of a minority report from then
Commissioner Dahlman. Mr. Clewley claimed that Mr. Dahlman
had no right to prepare a minority report as he had abstained
from the decision making process, that report should not have
been included in the Council information nor considered,
which he also claimed is a violation of the Fair Political
Practices Commission guidelines. He said there have been
problems in recent years with regard to documentation, his
communications have not been thoroughly covered in the
minutes, however have been provided in the packet of
documents he presented which raises a few more issues. He
offered that in September of 1997, when the motion for an
ordinance was made, the contention was concern that this was
something that had been built years ago and not known what
Codes were required at that time. September, 1996 minutes
reflect that the Director had explained that the setback was
adopted in 1957, yet there were no houses built on the Hill
prior to 1957, the Code has been in place longer than the
homes on the Hill, there were no pre-existing decks, the
motion made by Council was arbitrary for a structure to be
grandfathered, grandfathering is for a structure that
predates the applicable COde, when the Code has been standing
longer than the houses, and there is documentation of that,
then someone decides to build what they want, that can not be
grandfathered, that is a granting of a special privilege and
contrary to what can be done to implement a zone text
amendment. There is a lot of misinformation, it has been
said that maybe things were built before the Code, there were
not, there has been some support for the text amendment, one
speaker was the subject of an aborted action against his
property some years ago, the Council decided that was a civil
matter, the responsibility of someone other than the City to
prosecute. Mr. Clewley said the appeal of the denial was
without merit, the owners may have been greedy when they
spoke in favor before and by appealing they were selfish
beyond reason, Ordinance 1419 attempted to give special
privilege, it is detrimental to the Code and the confidence
of people in the building code to allow illegally constructed
structures to remain, if allowed now they will be allowed
later. Mr. Clewley stated there is going to be a real
problem with what the City Manager predicted will happen, the
City sends letters to people who offend this law, there are
only three properties that potentially have any near term
impact from the enforcement of the Code as it stands because,
in most cases, no one told them they were offending until
now, it has been the policy of the City to enforce nothing
until the property is sold, two of the properties are for
sale and if sold they would be noticed that they would need
to come forward, by allowing this to occur property owner
after property owner is wrong, the Code will never be
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enforced, and this case can be used against the City by any
person who wishes to avoid paying property taxes, increased
property taxes, building permit fees, etc., these are things
that can be avoided if one does not take out a building
permit and the City does not enforce the Code. Mr. Clewley
cited this as a complex issue, hoped that the documents he
provided are thorough, and offered to respond to questions.
He encouraged that the Code be supported and enforced, that
things be built the way they are supposed to be, and preserve
the fifty thousand square feet that is potentially being
stolen from the Hellman Ranch Specific Plan forage area, all
of the animals that are living in the wetland habitat, fifty
thousand square feet is being stolen by allowing people to
build up to that property line where that can not be done
anywhere else in the City, this land should be considered no
less valuable than anyone elses, especially with the problems
the City and Hellman has had with determining how many acres
have to go under water, and what is going to happen to all of
the animals, green space is valuable, his property is
affected by this, his house abuts the Hellman Ranch, stating
that he wants the green space for the entire mile preserved
as open space to enhance the Hellman Ranch Specific Plan.
The Mayor mentioned that it has been said under current Code
there can be a retaining wall to extend the backyard out to
the property line, a concrete structure of the same height is
allowed at the same height as the existing wooden structures,
asking if concrete structures up to that height would be
preferred. Mr. Clewley countered that there is a ten foot
limit for rear yard fences, to that the Mayor said he was
speaking of retaining walls and leveling the property to the
property line which allows use of that property, thus a
concrete rather than wooden structure is allowed, to him a
wooden structure that allows air underneath, allows plants to
climb and grow on it is more beneficial than a concrete
structure of the same height with dirt behind it. Mr.
Clewley predicted the existence of a fire hazard, yet the
higher decks mentioned may not be particularly dangerous.
The Mayor asked if Mr. Clewley was advocating that the City
go out and sue its residents, issue demolition orders, and
pull all of the people along the area into court for things
that have existed for thirty years. Mr. Clewley replied in
the negative, stating that the only property that is under an
enforcement order at this time is the property at 1733
Crestview, other properties have not been advised that they
are in violation of the Code, if they are advised then they
have the opportunity to ask the City Councilor Planning
Commission for a variance, they have the ability to appeal a
denial to the Council, upon denial of the Council, if there
is not compliance then there would be Code enforcement action
against the subsequent owners once the property is sold. He
said the City is not about to start demolishing structures on
the subject streets, they pursue Code enforcement only upon
complaint, only after all avenues of appeal have been
exhausted, and the property is sold, that has been done with
1733 and allowed to go down another generation of property
owners. To the mention of abandoned vehicles, Mr. Clewley
said he did not know of any law in the City that says one can
not park a car in the driveway, in his case he has a car in
the garage, in the driveway, and in the street, in his
neighborhood there are a number of old care enthusiasts. Mr.
Clewley again spoke for Code enforcement, there is a
procedure, it is best if it is followed. Mayor ProTem
Campbell noted that there are instances where a rear yard
slopes downward, yet there are some that go straight out to
the end of the property, in those instances is the property
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allowed a concrete deck within the ten foot setback. The
Director confirmed that an on-grade patio slab is allowed,
yet the question of the Mayor was to a property that has a
slope and the owner wishes to construct a retaining wall,
then behind the wall level the slope so that it matches the
grade of the property, can the owner then put in an on-grade
patio slab, the answer is yes they can, and in that situation
rather than seeing an underside of a deck you see a retaining
wall.
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Ms. Teri Meyers, 1733 Crestview Avenue, stated she bought her
home in 1995, the deck was apparently built in 1990, it is
sturdy and done well even though not permitted. Ms. Meyers
said she wished to speak in favor of the zone text amendment,
and reserve the right to speak later should there be need
after the decision as to a separate issue but pertaining to
what has gone over the years, and with regard to giving more
weight to testimony by being sworn, said she would do that if
it is necessary to speak a second time. Mayor ProTem
Campbell advised that Ms. Meyers would have the opportunity
to speak at public comments yet a vote may have been taken by
then. Ms. Meyers said she wished to limit her first comments
to this particular issue, she has obtained a copy of the
agenda and staff report, and commended the cooperation and
assistance of the City over this period. She noted the
listing of her residence in the staff report, the description
points out that 'permits are on file for a six-foot high
block retaining wall, a sundeck, swimming pool, and addition
to a pool house, that the larger deck is known to not be
permitted since this is the property subject to the initial
code enforcement action and variance was denied that started
the discussion of changing the rear yard setback for this
area of the City.' Ms. Meyers then read the ending sentence,
'subsequently, a cabana has been constructed on the non-
permitted deck without the benefit of permits,' to that Ms.
Meyers said she would like to know where that came from
because she does not have a cabana, the only thing she has
done since purchasing the property is an addition that is
fully permitted, she has done nothing to the deck and did not
know where the statement relating to a cabana came from. Ms.
Meyers did offer that when previous statements were made that
the deck was ugly, she had said she would be willing to plant
anything that would be desired, she stated that their deck
does not go all the way to the property line, there remains
several feet, there is a retaining wall that is legal and
believed does go to the property line, that was acceptable,
apparently the deck is not, that is what is hoped to be
changed. Ms. Meyers emphasized her support for the zone text
amendment, acknowledging that she does have a vested
interest, she claimed her deck is beautiful, it is felt to be
an enhancement, as she has said in the past, provided
pictures of the deck which also dispels the statement that
there is a cabana, rather, there is a table, chairs, and a
couple of umbrellas, she pointed out the level of the lawn
and deck as the same, the deck covering the slope which most
likely avoided erosion from the heavy rains in recent past.
Ms. Meyers said she invited the Planning Commission and
Council to visit her home and look at the deck, no one except
Councilmember Campbell did so, and she walked the area behind
the property, that was appreciated as has been said all along
they are sorry the deck was not permitted, it was not done by
them, they would like to keep the deck, it is felt to be an
enhancement, if it is required to be cut back that will
result in several feet and pose difficulty to maintain the
area, that could pose a fire problem, since she has lived
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there.the foliage has grown up around the deck, also when the
deck was Quilt, in order to not destroy the trees, the deck
was built around them, it is beautiful, there is wildlife as
well. Ms. Meyers said she believes that the property itself
is an enhancement, likewise she can not go back and change
the fact that it was not permitted, for that she is sorry,
she could not have not bought the property because the deck
had not been permitted, when a zone change was proposed she
spoke for it, she had been polite, helpful, believed they
were doing what they were supposed to do, they filed an
appeal within the appropriate time frame, the Planning
Commission denied it, they have followed the rules, this is
not their fault, they have tried to do whatever was
necessary, this started in 1995/1996 and is still not
resolved, again, the deck is now surrounded by foliage,
beautiful, and frequented by wildlife. Ms. Meyers stated
again that they just want to keep the deck, the deck is
merely a continuation of the floor and a fence, the property
is very safe. Mayor ProTem Campbell asked if the deck goes
into the setback. The Director responded that the deck
structure is closer than ten feet to the rear property line,
within the setback but not totally to the property line.
Mayor ProTem Campbell noted a stairway, asking if it is from
the addition, to which Ms. Meyers responded that there had
been a stairway, they merely brought it out some twenty feet
which then goes onto the beginning of the deck, all done with
permits from the City. There being no further comments,
Mayor ProTem Campbell declared the public hearing closed.
Mayor Yost cited this as a difficult issue, seeing both
sides, there are people who clamor for Code enforcement,
people who say it is not a good idea to let people build
things and not hold them accountable, otherwise, why have a
building department, why have a code enforcement process if
it is not going to be enforced, the reason for building codes
and code enforcement is to assure that buildings and
structures are safe within a given area, that the reason for
having things inspected and certified by the engineers and
inspectors. The problem as seen is that there are a number
of places where people stand and humans spend time yet no one
from the City has certified that these structures are in deed
safe, there has been adequate notice that there are a number
of such structures out there, should one of them fall and
injure someone the City would likely be liable, also, the
City would not be performing its obligation to not inspect
them and assure that they are safe structures. He noted that
they are called structures yet if a retaining wall is placed
on the rear property line as can be done by Code and extend
the backyard with a mass of dirt and concrete, that is okay,
yet if one builds a wooden structure, a deck, with vines
growing on it that is not okay yet it creates the same exact
living area for the residents, that because the deck is a
structure that lies within the back ten feet of the property,
which to him is an inconsistency. What is the responsibility
of the City, it is to provide homes and structures that are
safe for the residents, the City should not be climbing into
the yards of people looking for violations, people do have a
certain amount of privacy in their domain, nor should the
City be taking them to court for things that have existed for
over thirty years. If asked if he thinks it is a good idea
to reward people who have built things illegally, Mayor Yost
said he certainly does not, is it a good idea to reward those
who did not comply or ignore a stop work order, the Mayor
also said it is not, but his feeling is that what staff has
proposed regarding this particular issue is good, yet he
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would like to take it one step further in terms of future
regulations, put some type of limit on the height so that
they can be terraced to some degree, there is going to be a
golf course, homes, a nature preserve out there, he would
like some provision to assure an aesthetic situation, even
though most people take care of their homes, if certain codes
are not enacted there is really no protection to assure that
that takes place. Mayor Yost pointed out that the prospects
set up by the proposed Ordinance requires a conditional use
permit process and review and can require arborization,
plants, and"various means of screening. He said again, this
a difficult issue, much time has been spent, this needs to
come to an end, and he would support the recommendation of
staff with some language to provide for terracing, by doing
that there would be some assurance that the structures are
safe and they are permitted. Mayor ProTem Campbell said if
staff inspects all of these properties and if something is
found to not be to Code, will it come down, the response of
the Mayor was yes, to assure that it is safe. Councilman
Boyd asked what code, what is in question is not the good
faith effort of a property owner to maintain a nice property,
what is in question is the Code, and as it reads the decks on
these properties are not allowed, that has to be defined
before they are inspected and determined to be safe. The
Mayor offered that what would be looked at is the basic code
surrounding a structure in terms of size, ability to bear
weight, etc. to assure safety, that is done by the building
inspectors. Councilman Boyd stated that is the Uniform
Building Code, not the City Code, and subject to approval of
ZTA 96-1. Councilman Snow said in consideration of the
magnitude of the motion that may be considered, and the
effect it will have on the residents of Seal Beach Leisure
World as well, suggested that this item be postponed for at
least two weeks for further research, from his standpoint he
has not had time to look into the various impacts of the
recommendations. The Mayor noted that when an ordinance is
considered it has a second reading, that would be in two
weeks, this issue has gone on since 1990. Mayor ProTem
Campbell stated that she had walked Crestview from one end to
the other and was able to observe all of the decks, when the
Meyers put in their pool they used the dirt to further level
the property, there is no doubt that they have a lovely deck,
it was the previous owner that failed to obtain a permit yet
they knew that when they purchased the property, also, while
walking she observed other decks that were questionable to
her from a safety factor, even though they may be sound, to
Councilman Snow she offered that she had looked at this area
before, looked at it once again today, she has not gotten
through the entire agenda packet on this issue, she would
have no problem delaying the matter for two more weeks,
suggested too that her fellow Councilmembers also walk the
area. Mayor Yost stated that he too has walked the area, and
again reminded that this issue has gone on for nearly a
decade, noted that it was the past Council that recommended
this not be an enforcement issue, it is the job of the
Council to set policy, that is what would be done with the
zone text amendment, there is also a precedent to what has
been done, are areas of the City treated differently based
upon where they are, this is similar to what was done along
the Gold Coast with the overhangs, that essentially the same
process that the Council is endeavoring here. Again noting
that under the Code one can build a concrete structure to the
same level as some of the wooden decks, that is okay, but the
wooden deck, because it is in the setback is classified as a
different type of entity and therefore it is illegal, that
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creates the problem. As to the height of the concrete
structure, it was stated that it can be a height equal to the
flat grade of the property, no matter the height.
Discussion continued with regard to postponing this matter
for a period of two weeks. Question was raised as to further
testimony, some of which has been heard a number of times, to
which the City Attorney advised that the hearing has been
closed, however testimony would be at the discretion of the
Council. The City Manager noted that the Director of
Development Services would not be present at the next meeting
therefore requested that this item be continued for a month.
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Yost moved, second by Doane, to close debate on this item.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Yost
None
Snow
Motion carried
Mayor Yost moved to approve Zone Text Amendment 96-1 by the
introduction of Ordinance Number 1419, and that staff bring
back language with regards to terracing of property for
future applications for decks. The City Attorney advised
that if the motion is approved, assuming that it is to
introduce Ordinance 1419, in connection with the second
reading the staff can provide a report with the type of
conditions that the Council may consider as establishing as a
policy, similar to the Council action with regard to
restaurants that serve alcohol, a policy that is now standard
conditions, or there could be amendment of some of the
uncodified portions of the Ordinance, provisions that will be
in the Ordinance however not set forth in the Code. The
Manager stated this would be a listing of the conditions that
could be set as part of the minor plan review in the future,
terracing, landscaping, or other means to mitigate the visual
impact of decks. Councilman Doane made reference to the
listing within the staff report of the various properties
where things have ~een built or exist that have no permits,
inquiring what is to be done with those. The Director
explained that the Ordinance would require those properties
to come back to the City for a minor plan review through the
Planning Commission within a twelve month period. Mayor Yost
noted that the properties would be inspected to determine if
they are safe and habitable. Councilman Doane inquired if
the properties meet that criteria would they then receive a
permit, and if the Commission denies would they still have
the ability to appeal to the Council. The response was yes.
Mayor Yost moved again to introduce Ordinance Number 1419 as
stated by the City Attorney to include additional language
with regard to terracing, and screening by way of vegetation.
The title of Ordinance Number 1419 was read by the City
Attorney, "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH AMENDING
SECTION 28-401 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH TO
CONDITIONALLY ALLOW DECK STRUCTURES IN REAR YARD SETBACKS OF
PROPERTIES IN THE RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY ZONE, DISTRICT V,
WHICH ABUT THE HELLMAN RANCH OR GUM GROVE PARK." Councilman
Doane seconded the motion.
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ABSTAIN:
Doane, Yost
Campbell, Boyd
Snow
Motion failed
Mayor Yost moved to continue the matter of Ordinance Number
1419, Zone Text Amendment 96-1, until the next meeting.
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Planning Assistant could attend the next meeting, it was
suggested that he not inasmuch as he has been in employment
for less than a week. It was also suggested that the
Director meet with Councilman Snow prior to that meeting.
Vote on motion to continue:
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NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
The City Attorney clarified that the public hearing has been
closed, there is no further meeting notice required.
CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS
There was no report from the City Attorney.
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CITY MANAGER REPORTS
The City Manager announced the new Assistant Planner for the
Development Services Department, Mr. Mac Cummins. He
reported the first delivery of the Honda electric fueled
vehicles have arrived, paid for through a grant secured last
year, presently parked in front of City Hall for viewing.
The Manager announced that the Police Department is
scheduling a desk top emergency preparedness exercise,
possibly sometime in May, as background some of the staff
have attended disaster preparedness sessions and what has
come from that is that there is an industrial facility across
the street from the emergency operations center, the concern
was what type of chemicals they use and whether they would
jeopardize the EOC when it is needed most, after an
earthquake as an example, to that Captain Maiten investigated
and found there were no chemicals that would cause problems.
Councilmember Campbell asked who will be participating in the
exercise. The Manager said it would be the department heads,
the Weapons Station, Leisure World, Orange County Fire, and
Councilmembers if they wish to be involved. The Manager
announced that the City receives requests for cellular phone
antennas quite regularly, some are free standing like the one
on the Bixby site, some on City property near the freeway,
some are mounted on the Administration Building clock tower,
they do generate income to the City, yet he wanted to advise
the Council that as requests continue he has been dissuading
the cell phone companies because the proliferation starts to
create a visual blight, however they continue to come in with
new designs, one proposed for Arbor Park was a fake pine
tree, it is felt this City is nearing saturation. Unless the
Council feels otherwise, staff will continue to discourage
further antenna sites.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared Public Comments to be open. Mr. Gordon
Shanks, Surf Place, made reference to agenda item "0", a
request for revenue augmentation from Los Angeles County for
beach cleanup, to which he suggested a special emphasis of
the request be that this is the first surfing beach from the
other side of San Pedro, thus it is not that Seal Beach is
not providing a service to the County to the north, the
Supervisors may not know much about Long Beach or Seal Beach,
and the better they are educated the better chance of getting
some money. Councilman Boyd said he does anticipate
attending that meeting to speak to the Board in reference to
the request, and in the packet being forwarded to them it is
expected there will be sufficient information for them to
understand the geographic location, that Seal Beach serves
two million visitors a year, and a large percentage of those
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visitors come from Los Angeles County. Mr. Ken Kroft,
Crestview Avenue at the entrance to Gum Grove, referred to
comments with regard to placing trees in the parkways along
Seal Beach Boulevard, to which he said he thought there was
going to be sidewalks for pedestrian access associated with
the Hellman development. The Manager responded that
sidewalks were envisioned however the desire is to look at
all of the alternatives, then bring them all to the Council,
there may be some options without planting trees and have
another form of footpath, a desire was to connect the new
neighborhood with Bolsa Avenue and the school. Mr. Kroft
said at the time that plantings are being considered thought
should be given to sidewalks or pedestrian walkways, one
should not come before the other. Mr. Kroft mentioned too
that he has had conversations with members of the Council
with regard to the access of dogs into the Gum Grove Park
area, there is a sign that states no dogs, yet there is a
proliferation of dog walkers and users in the Park, that is
no problem to him, the issue is that there is an ordinance
that states dogs are prohibited, there is an ineffective use
of resources to police the situation and it is not being
resolved. He said with the Hellman development coming that
is going to be a concern and he would like to see that
situation resolved. Mr. Kroft proposed a solution, that
seems to have some satisfaction amongst the dog walkers,
police, animal control, etc., suggesting that in the
licensing process there be an additional license or fee that
might be available to residents who want to walk their dogs
in the Park with possibly a special tag, in that event
instead of the no dog sign there could be signage citing the
special license provisions and regulations by the special
permit. Of concern is that the majority of people that use
the Park are those who have dogs, which is fine as long as
they clean up, yet people likely come from other cities as
well to avail themselves of this Park, possibly they too
could use the Park with the special permit and additional
fee, and any monies that might come from this process could
be turned over to the Gum Grove group for augmentation of the
Park, cleanup or whatever. Mr. Kroft requested consideration
and that this process move forward. Mayor Yost declared
Public Comments closed.
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COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Doane said he wished to recognize another member
of the Council for doing something that he should have. He
quoted from an article in the Long Beach Press Telegram
entitled 'Project Effort to Keep Seawater Out Tied to
Collapse of Structure', relating to the seemingly harmless
Orange County Water District project of injecting wells along
the Alamitos Bay with fresh water which is designed to keep
subsurface migration sea water away from fresh water wells by
injecting the wells with fresh water...which led to a
liquefaction problem and the destruction of a twelve unit
complex in Leisure World.' He noted that Councilman Snow
pointed out this problem because if that water were added
that would severely impact the liquefaction problem.
Councilman Boyd mentioned having provided a memo to the City
Manager recently about the City's web site relative to
updates to assure that all of the information is correct and
that pictures of Councilmembers be taken and placed on the
web, a question also if a member of the Council could access
the web to update their pages on upcoming Public Works
projects, district activities, etc. Mayor Yost said he had
done his own, provided the address to staff which allows him
to update about once a month, the Councilmember has control
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over the update, etc. The Manager stated he had spoken to
staff, possibly before the next meeting the Council could
avail themselves of pictures. Councilman Boyd said he was
merely looking to enhance the Council web pages.
Councilmember Campbell thanked Boy Scout Troop 642 for their
presence at this meeting, to the Eagle project on Saturday,
landscaping six of the entrances to College Park East, she
thanked the Public Works employees for their assistance and
the nursery for donating some of the plant materials and
providing others at a substantially reduced rate for the
Scouts, thanking all who contributed to the Eagle project.
She noted the Bunny Bash held at Heather Park about two weeks
ago, thanked the three Girl Scout Troops who assisted, the
Park and Recreation Commissioner, the College Park East
Neighborhood Association, and the very special bunny.
Councilmember Campbell announced a meeting of the CPE
Neighborhood Association on April 22nd at 7:30 p.m. at the
North Seal Beach Community Center. She offered condolences
to the family and friends of Frank Clift, a former four year
member of the City Council, who passed away on March 29th.
Councilmember Campbell announced attending a seminar
sponsored by Congressman Rohrabacher on terrorism, copies of
some of that information provided to the Council particularly
with Seal Beach in the midst of the Naval Weapons Station.
She mentioned the recent trip to Washington, D. C., the
purpose of which was to lobby for airport reuse of EI Toro, a
very worthwhile trip, twelve meetings in two days, of
particular interest was the flight demonstrations, it will be
seen that the flights are not that noisy and with that
information the opposition to the airport will decrease,
support was also sought for interim cargo operations, it is
desired that those begin as soon as the Marines leave the
base on July 1st, the County will be responsible for
maintenance of the Station once the Marines are gone and the
interim cargo operation will offset the maintenance costs.
She noted there were many interesting and valuable insights
as to what is going on. Councilmember Campbell reported also
that a request for funding was put forth for the control
tower at the Armed Forces Reserve Center, the request in
support of that funding was requested at the beginning of
this meeting. A request was made as well for relocating the
commissary to the Naval Weapons Station. She offered that
the trip was very worthwhile, Seal Beach has a vested
interest in seeing that that airport is opened, if the
projection that South Orange County will double its size in
ten years those people will be utilizing the 405 Freeway to
get to LAX, this area is basically maxed out and South County
needs to do their share as to infrastructure. Councilmember
Campbell presented Chief Sellers with police badges from the
White Plains Police Department. Councilman Boyd announced
the upcoming Car Show on April 24th on Main Street, and Mayor
Yost noted that he would be at the Show at approximately 6:00
a.m. assisting with the parking of cars and invited all to
attend. Councilmember Campbell announced the Seal Beach 10K
Run this next Saturday, with Mayor Yost mentioning the lK and
5K as well.
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the Council would meet in
Closed Session to discuss the items identified on the agenda,
a conference with legal counsel relating to three potential
cases of anticipated litigation pursuant to Government Code
Section 54956.9(b), a conference with legal counsel relating
to existing litigation, Los Alamitos versus City of Seal
Beach pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(a),
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personnel matters as to the City Manager, City Attorney, and
Public Works Supervisor pursuant to Government Code Section
54957. The Council adjourned to Closed Session at 11:10 p.m.
and reconvened at 1:00 a.m. with Mayor Yost calling the
meeting to order. The City Attorney reported the Council had
given direction to the City Manager and City Attorney, no
other action was taken.
Yost moved, second by Snow, to approve the provision for
supplemental health insurance for a thirty-five year City
employee.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 1:01 a.m.
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Seal Beach, California
April 26, 1999
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:00 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Yost
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Badum, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Ms. Stoddard, Director of Administrative
Services
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Mr. Dorsey, Assistant to the City Manager
Ms. Beard, Director of Recreation and Parks
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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