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personnel matters as to the City Manager, City Attorney, and
Public Works Supervisor pursuant to Government Code Section
54957. The Council adjourned to Closed Session at 11:10 p.m.
and reconvened at 1:00 a.m. with Mayor Yost calling the
meeting to order. The City Attorney reported the Council had
given direction to the City Manager and City Attorney, no
other action was taken.
Yost moved, second by Snow, to approve the provision for
supplemental health insurance for a thirty-five year City
employee.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 1:01 a.m.
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Seal Beach, California
April 26, 1999
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:00 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Yost
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Badum, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer
Ms. Stoddard, Director of Administrative
Services
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Mr. Dorsey, Assistant to the City Manager
Ms. Beard, Director of Recreation and Parks
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilman Doane requested that Item "Q" be removed from the
agenda and be tabled. The City Attorney referred to Item
"L", Ordinances numbered 1444 and 1445 relating to the Zoeter
Park Skate Facility, Section 2 thereof, changing the title of
the individual charged with the responsibility of posting
applicable signs from the Director of Community Development
to the City Manager. Doane moved, second by Campbell, to
approve the order of the agenda as revised.
With regard to the tabling of Item "Q", Councilman Boyd asked
if the intent was that there be no budget discussions at this
meeting. Councilman Doane said that would be his
recommendation, the reason being that there is not as yet a
balanced budget, piecemeal considerations are not the best,
also, placing that discussion at the end of the agenda is not
fair to those who want to be present. He offered that he was
in favor of the changed budget discussions when suggested at
the last meeting however in talking to some of the people who
want to participate it may be well to go back to the public
workshop format. Councilmember Campbell said she favored the
Council meeting forum ho~ever ~ants to have the budget pages
under discussion a week ahead to have the opportunity to
review. To the question posed by Mayor Yost as to whether
the budget is complete, the City Manager advised that the
budget is not complete, four departments were presented for
consideration at this meeting yet those are only tentative as
the revenue projections have not been finalized, so at this
point even the four could not be recommended as a balanced
component of the budget. Mayor Yost offered that he first
thought the piecemeal approach would be workable however upon
further thought it may be better to look at the total
picture, consider comparisons of issues as they relate to
priorities, otherwise it may be impossible to have a balanced
budget, at this point his preference too would be to table
the budget discussions and return to the previous workshop
format. Councilmember Campbell objected to late afternoon
meetings as people are returning from work and unable to
attend, discussing a little at a time with a concluding
overall review would be acceptable, things that are carried
over from year to year should be reviewed to see if they
continue to be pertinent, her concern is with receiving the
information on the same day as the meeting. She suggested an
adjourned meeting or at the beginning of the agenda.
Councilman Boyd said he brought this issue up as he felt each
cost center should be reviewed individually, to adopt the
budget all at once would be fiscally irresponsible, a member
of the Council had said there should be more public
participation, to which he stated this is the public forum,
his idea had been to review each cost center, not adopt, at a
Council meeting where the public can either view from home or
attend and participate. As to cablecasting of a mid-week
adjourned session, it was noted that that would be a decision
of the Cable Foundation, funding is generally only for
Council and Planning Commission meetings, to that it was also
mentioned that possibly a non-broadcast workshop would be
more relaxed for participation by the public, and to that
comment there was disagreement. A mid-week session with a
two hour limit was suggested. As to the expectation of the
City Manager for this meeting, he stated just a walk through
of the four preliminary cost centers, possibly resolve some
questions or confusion, offering that for the budget to be
adopted there will be one or two cablecast public hearings
were there is an overview of the entire document, the fund
balances, estimated beginning and ending balances, budget
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highlights, and policies, the schedule depends on how much
detail the Council wishes to review the budget and how formal
that process should be.
Vote on the motion to approve the order of the agenda as
revised:
AYES:
NOES:
Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
Boyd
Motion carried
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared Public Comments open. Mr. Reg Clewley,
Catalina Avenue, said he wished to speak to Item "M",
proposed Ordinance Number 1419, at this time as the item was
not on the Consent Calendar where it could be removed for
separate consideration, and in this case requested that the
time limit be waived. He stated he presented materials for
information of the Council, recalled that the District Three
representative proposed arguments in favor of this Ordinance
at the last meeting, that because the thirteen foot tall
fence had been permitted, thus the fifteen foot six inch
structure similarly situated to the property line at 1733
Crestview should also be permitted, that was a good argument
until the fact that the wall at 1505 was permitted
inadvertently, carelessly, or wrongfully. He referred to
Code Section 28-2316 (2)(0) that he said speaks to a property
line on or within a lot of no greater than eight feet as
measured from either side of the fence, page one of the
materials submitted provide a photograph of the only
permitted wall along Catalina, Crestview, or Surf Place, that I
a height of thirteen feet, there is a nine foot six inch
retaining wall and a forty-two inch guard rail that has been
permitted on top. Mr. Clewley read 28-2316(2)(0) relating to
retaining walls, also included in the materials submitted,
claimed there are peculiar circumstances on those three
streets, then the Council adopted an amendment to Section 28-
2316, Zone Text Amendment 92-6, subsection (2)(H)(3),
allowing ten foot high fences for purposes of security in the
'back yards of Hill homes adjacent to vacant Hellman land and
Gum Grove Park' whether they be retaining walls, hedge
plantings, screening devices, something six foot tall could
be built but under no circumstances at either side of the
fence could the wall be more than ten feet tall. He then
referred to page thirteen of the Planning Commission minutes
of October 3, 1990 with regard to comments relating to
structures, flatwork, raised materials, and backfill during
discussion of the 1733 Crestview property, thereafter he
referred to page nine of Planning Commission minutes of March
6, 1996 from which he read an except as had been explained by
the Development Services Director with regard to deck
setbacks, reference to the same property, then he read a
quote of Planning Commissioner Brown from a Sun newspaper
article of March 26, 1998, citing Code enforcement as a
problem. With regard to the permitted wall that had been I
constructed, he claimed there was no issue raised by staff as
to how the permit was issued, to which he stated it was not
in compliance with the Code. Mr. Clewley said the argument
at the previous meeting in favor of the proposed Ordinance
came up because the wall at 1505 Crestview was permitted,
that too should be an illegally constructed structure as at
1733, it does not comply with Seal Beach Code, and he had
been referred to some County Code that deals with freeway
escarpments and related properties. Mr. Clewley stated if
the proposed Ordinance is adopted there will be a complaint
filed, claimed that his property and the lives of his family
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are endangered with the passage of this Ordinance. He
mentioned also that his neighbor has a structure, if he were
to catch fire his house would be finished and this City
should be sued. Mr. Gordon Shanks, Surf Place, mentioned
that he is getting feedback from people with regard to the
newly metered parking lots, he was not aware that they were
going to be $1 per hour, a little excessive, to which he
asked if the Council has considered a study to determine if
the lots may do just as well at fifty cents an hour and
possibly feel better about that, also, what kind of
reputation is the City getting when one wants to stroll the
pier and when they return to their car they are met with a
$34 parking ticket, noting that the lot in the one hundred
block of Main Street is nearly empty. The Manager responded
that the revenues from the metered lots are being watched,
the intent was to get through a peak summer season, gather
statistics on their usage and revenue, to allow the Council
to evaluate whether the rates are appropriate, if near
capacity most of the time that would likely mean the rates
are acceptable, if they are near empty in the summer that
would be a concern. Mr. Shanks claimed that this is a three
and a half month City, the remainder is fall, winter, and
into spring, to evaluate on a basis of three and a half
months is not to evaluate for a twelve month period, it is
known that the City will be busier in the summer, yet is that
making an impact on the businesses for the other eight and a
half months, this City can not be judged on the three plus
summer months. He requested that this be looked into. With
regard to issue just addressed, Ordinance 1419, Mr. Shanks
said people should remember that when the Hill was built,
commencing in 1958, Seal Beach was a flat City, when the
codes were adopted for Crestview especially, not so much on
Catalina and Surf place, they did not take the slope issue
into account, the City is getting caught up with having a
steep bluff to the back, the City is making an effort, and
spoke for passage of the Ordinance and resolving this issue.
Mr. Stan Anderson, Balboa Drive, expressed appreciation for
the help of the City with the Car Show held on Saturday, also
the Seal Beach Chamber and Business Association, the
volunteers, and the car owners. Mr. Anderson reported that
persons have again talked to him regarding the standing water
in front of St. Anne's Church, and requested that someone
contact those persons with regard to dates and times of any
upcoming work. While walking and talking this weekend he
also received complaints regarding the parking and restrooms,
there needs to be some signage with regard to restroom
facilities, possibly they should be looked into as a budget
item, that is only fair to visitors as well as the residents,
and businesses complained about people utilizing their
facilities. Mr. Anderson mentioned also complaints that the
metered lots are too high, that these lots should not be
metered unless there is a total parking management program,
offered to obtain information from a contact in Belmont Shore
regarding their program, said more and more people are
parking on the residential streets, the businesses had been
using those lots for themselves and their customers, now they
have no good business parking program, it is hoped that can
be resolved. He expressed appreciation to the Recreation
Department for their efforts in developing the skateboard
park, noted that the park is already being used a great deal
and people are appreciative of having some place for
skateboarding other than on the sidewalks, possibly others
can be developed in other areas of the community, and
mentioned that some of the Recreation personnel will be
joining him on an upcoming public access program that will be
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shown on May 6th. In response to a question of Councilman
Boyd, Mr. Anderson confirmed that the Belmont Shore Business
Association does own the parking lots, also explained that
their meter rate is fifty cents per hour, are operative until
6:00 p.m., this similar to what the Business Association had
previously looked at in terms of encouraging use of the beach
lots, also, in Belmont Shore the businesses have parking I
available for their use and at a reduced rate. Councilman
Boyd asked if the beach parking rate is not the same as the
Main Street lots, $1 per hour with a $6 maximum, the Manager
responded that the beach lots are variable rates, a flat $6
in the summer with a reduced $2 rate after 5:00 p.m., also a
$1 hourly rate. Mr. Anderson said he would even like to see
some free hours offered to the beachgoers in order to
encourage use of those lots, if people are offered one hour
free they will likely be there the remainder of the day.
Mayor Yost announced that the beach restrooms are now open.
There being no further comments, Mayor Yost declared Public
Comments closed.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4701 - OPPOSING SAFE AND HEALTHY
COMMUNITIES INITIATIVE eEL TORO)
Resolution Number 4701 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, OPPOSING THE SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITIES
INITIATIVE." By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolution Number 4701 was waived. Councilmember Campbell
explained that this resolution was drafted by the Orange
County Regional Airport Authority in response to this
proposed Initiative, and expressed objection to the
connotation of certain language in the Initiative itself I
relating to the responsibilities of politicians.
Councilmember Campbell pointed out that the Orange County
Regional Airport Authority is going on record as opposing
this Initiative, encouraged all persons to read it before
signing a petition, and pointed out that the people of Orange
County have twice voted for airport use of El Toro, this
Initiative is trying for a third vote. Campbell moved,
second by Boyd, to adopt Resolution Number 4701 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
LEGISLATION - OPPOSING ASSEMBLY BILL 1248 - ISSUANCE OF
REVENUE BONDS and ASSEMBLY BILL 1479 - LOCAL AIRPORT
AUTHORITY - EL TORO REUSE
Councilmember Campbell explained that revenue bonds do not
require a vote of the people as they do not obligate the tax
payer where general obligation bonds do require a vote,
revenue bonds are paid from the revenue that a project
creates. She claimed this to be an attempt to again confuse
the public, there is no vote required for the County to issue
revenue bonds as there is no tax obligation of the public.
With regard to AB 1479, Councilmember Campbell explained that I
the City of Irvine is attempting to acquire another seat on
the Local Reuse Authority which would then be an even number
of members, produce a split vote and nothing would be
accomplished with regard to the reuse of the El Toro base.
Councilmember Campbell moved approval of
opposition to both AB 1248 and AB 1479.
seconded the motion.
the letters in
Councilman Boyd
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To a question of Councilman Snow, Councilmember Campbell
explained that the Base Realignment and Closure Commission
outlines the procedures for the closure and reuse of military
facilities, those facilities are first offered to other
federal agencies, then to local agencies, in this case the
federal government is making the El Toro Marine Station
available to the County of Orange at no cost if it is used as
an airport, the Orange County Board of Supervisors has been
designated as the Local Reuse Authority, the Local Reuse
Authority is the body that decides the disposition.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
APPOINTMENT - ARCHAEOLOGICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Councilman Snow nominated and moved to appoint Ms. Joyce
Basch as the District Two appointee to the Archaeological
Advisory Committee for the unexpired term ending July, 1999.
Councilman Doane seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "0" thru "L"
Doane moved, second by Yost, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented.
D.
Approved the waiver of reading in full
of all ordinances and resolutions and
that consent to the waiver of reading
shall be deemed to be given by all
Councilmembers after reading of the
title unless specific request is made
at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
E. Approved regular demands numbered 22986
through 23150 in the amount of $430,161.45,
payroll demands numbered 3290 through 3430
and 27643 in the amount of $132,910.25, and
authorized warrants to be drawn on the
Treasury for same.
F. Approved the minutes of the March 8th and
March 22nd, 1999 regular meetings.
G. Approved a letter to be forwarded to
the Orange County Grand Jury relating
to their report on Leaf Blower Pollution
Hazards in Orange County, and authorized
the Mayor to sign the response letter on
behalf of the City.
H.
Proclaimed the month of May, 1999 as
"Veteran Appreciation Month."
I.
Proclaimed the May, 1999 as "Clean Air
Month."
J. Approved a letter to be forwarded in
support of ACA 16 that provides that State
and local public agencies have the
authority to contract for professional
services, architectural and engineering,
and authorized the Mayor to sign the
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letter on behalf of the City.
K. Adopted Resolution Number 4702 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING THE SUBMITTAL OF
THE APPLICATION FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL
INTERCONNECT AND COORDINATION IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT ON SEAL BEACH BOULEVARD/LOS ALAMITOS
BOULEVARD TO THE ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
AUTHORITY FOR FUNDING UNDER THE COMBINED
TRANSPORTATION FUNDING PROGRAM"
and
Adopted Resolution Number 4703 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING THE SUBMITTAL OF THE
APPLICATION FOR BIKE LANES ADDITION TO THE
MARINA DRIVE BRIDGE PROJECT TO THE ORANGE
COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FOR FUNDING
UNDER THE COMBINED TRANSPORTATION FUNDING
PROGRAM." By unanimous consent, full reading
of Resolutions Numbered 4702 and 4703 was
waived.
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L. Adopted Ordinance Number 1444 entitled "AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH ADDING
CHAPTER l5C TO THE CODE OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH PERTAINING TO THE USE OF ZOETER
PARK SKATE FACILITY AND DECLARING THE
URGENCY THEREOF"
and
Approved the introduction of Ordinance
Number 1445 entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF SEAL BEACH ADDING CHAPTER 15C TO
THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH PERTAINING
TO THE USE OF ZOETER PARK SKATE FACILITY' and
that it be passed to second reading.
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NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
ORDINANCE NUMBER 1419 - ZONE TEXT AMENDMENT 96-1 - REAR YARD
DECK STRUCTURES
Mayor Yost mentioned that at the last meeting he had turned
the conduct of the public hearing over to Counci1member
Campbell, will do so again, public comment on this matter has
been closed, and he had the opportunity to speak to this item
at the last meeting. Mayor ProTem Campbell assumed the
conduct of the meeting relating to this item. She inquired
if her fellow Councilmembers had walked the rear of these
properties. Councilman Snow stated that during the past two
weeks he has spent several hours in conferences, visiting
people on Crestview, and walking the area along Gum Grove
Park, he has done considerable study of certain comments and
minutes over the past ten years, concurred with the public I
comment that some of the problems of the past should be
corrected, and read an excerpt from the news article where
Planning Commission Chairman Brown stated that 'many of the
exceptions made by the Planning Commission have to do with
inadequate rearyard and sideyard setbacks' to which he said
when one expands that it can be seen where mistakes have been
made over the years, especially with property along
Crestview. Mr. Snow said he spent about four hours walking
the back of the subject properties, there are a number of
places that need inspection as to stability, there is concern
with the potential of fires and possibly with camping out, it
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is believed much of that could be avoided by actions on the
part of City management, yet he would not like to see damage
to any of the citizens either emotionally or financially,
some of the backyards are beautiful, he would not like to see
them damaged, and it needs to be understood that health and
safety of the citizens is first and foremost in the thoughts
of the City. Councilman Snow mentioned that this has been a
difficult issue for the Planning Commission and City staff,
and expressed his support for approval of Ordinance Number
1419. Mayor Yost mentioned again that he had made a
statement at the last meeting, that with the proviso that
there needs to be limits on the height of retaining walls and
that future decks be terraced. Councilman Doane said he
feels that in the case of a structure being built without
permit, a year should be allowed to secure the permit, the
property is then inspected for safety for that property and
surrounding residences. He mentioned that he had visited one
property, viewed the structure, was pleased with other
improvements that have been done and permitted, he felt there
were no safety factors in this particular case, which is what
the City inspectors will review. Councilman Doane emphasized
however that he felt a permit should be required for all
decks that were built without permit, they should be
inspected, he would not be looking to tear things down, and
should there be safety problems they need to be corrected.
The Mayor agreed that there are many things that are not
permitted, have not been inspected and he would support
taking acting on anything that is determined to not be safe,
correcting or removing it, again, the prime concern is the
health and safety of the citizens. Councilman Boyd stated
that the Code does specify how high a retaining wall can be,
in fact a member of the planning staff explained during a
Commission meeting of October 3, 1990 that a retaining wall
can be six and a half feet with an additional forty-two inch
fence, his feeling is that if something is built it has to be
to Code, and if it is built illegally one should not expect
it will stay even if it has been in place for ten years. He
said he would sympathize with those who bought a house with
this deck structure, but the fact is that laws are not
changed just because people break the law. Mayor Yost read
Code Section 28-2316 with regard to retaining walls, stated
there is no reference to what the height of the retaining
wall should be, only that a fence, screen planting, or
whatever can be six feet on top of the retaining wall, what
the planner was explaining in October of 1990 was how high a
fence could be on top of the retaining wall, and stated his
intent to request amendment of the Code to specify a height
for retaining walls. Mayor ProTem Campbell referred back to
the previous Council denial of this matter, it was because it
was felt there was a loophole in that it was proposed that a
year be allowed to bring a non-permitted structure into
compliance, yet in the meantime someone else could build a
structure out to the property line and then request after-
the-fact approval, the issue was not retaining walls, rather
it was people building into the setback, five foot sideyard
setbacks and ten feet to the rear, and then upon viewing the
subject decks it was realized they have never been inspected.
After-the-fact permit requests are irritating, people know
they need permits yet they go right ahead and build things,
an example is the subject of this Text Amendment, there was a
stop work order, the deck was completed over a weekend, and
the house immediately sold, this is now the problem of the
new owners. The issues are many, are decks going to be
allowed to remain in the setback, are they going to be
required to come into compliance, decks moved out of the
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setback, now there is an issue of retaining walls, is there
going to be limits on those, yes there will, there are
pictures of the properties that have decks, however, there
are no pictures of the properties that do not have decks.
Mayor ProTem Campbell stated that the Ordinance is not
complete, it needs to address the height of retaining walls,
require that the owners of pre-existing decks apply for a I
permit within twelve months from the date of this ordinance,
and address the setback issue. Mayor Yost suggested an
inventory of all properties, no new deck construction within
the next year without going through the permit process,
establish a height of eight feet for retaining walls, and
limit decks to twelve and a half feet with terracing.
Councilman Boyd again made reference to Section 28-2316,
subsection (2)(D), relating to retaining walls, quoting again
that 'for retaining walls located on a property line or
within a lot a fence, wall, or screen planting may be placed
on the retaining wall, the height of such fence, wall, or
screen planting shall be six feet in height measured from the
highest elevation of land contiguous to the fence, wall, or
screen planting, but in no case shall be greater than eight
feet as measured from either side of the fence,' to which he
said that means the retaining wall can be no more than eight
feet high and the fence atop can be no more than forty-two
inches, that a fact verified by the former and contract
planner. The Mayor again said he found nothing in the Code
that specifies the height of retaining walls, that verified
by the Development Services Director at the last meeting.
The Manager offered to clarify the height of retaining walls
by the next meeting. The Mayor noted that the initial order
relating to the 1733 Crestview property was issued in 1989, I
how could this go on for ten years, the question is how does
the City want to treat its citizens, a point was brought up
as to how many properties may possibly be involved, asked if
it is the intent to send the planning staff into the
backyards of properties with their tape measures, that is
something the City has generally chosen not to do, to that
there was comment that they will be in the area one way or
another, verifying whether the structures should stay or go.
Mayor ProTem Campbell inquired if the intent is to
grandfather the building in the setbacks, to that Mayor Yost
noted that a retaining wall can be constructed in the setback
yet one can not put a deck in the setback, to him that a
total inconsistency, the question is do you treat properties
in different areas of the City differently, the answer is
yes, and used the overhangs on the Gold Coast as an example,
that due to location, sun, etc., a property having a slope
behind it too needs to be treated differently, that is what
the CUP and ZTA process is for. Mayor ProTem Campbell again
inquired as to opinions regarding building in the five foot
sideyard and ten foot rear setbacks in the subject area, the
response of the Mayor as to the rear setback, as specified by
this Ordinance, yes, as to the sideyard setbacks the answer
was no, again with regard to the rear yard setback, it was I
noted that a retaining wall is already allowed to the rear
property line, decks allowed only in accordance with this
Ordinance that will require a CUP before the Planning
Commission which requires permitting, screening, etc., to the
question of grandfather those currently in the rear setback,
the answer was yes. Mayor ProTem Campbell made reference to
the reading of Section 28-2316 relating to retaining walls,
eight feet high plus a forty-two inch fence, to which
Councilman Boyd said was verified by the contract planner
this date, the retaining wall measured from each side of the
wall. The City Attorney stated that if there is a motion on
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the floor, the issue of the retaining wall will be clarified
before second reading of the Ordinance, from the discussion
there appears to be agreement that retaining walls should be
no more than eight feet, the question is simply whether it is
currently in the Code or not, if not it could be incorporated
into the proposed Ordinance. Councilman Snow questioned the
reference to grandfathering, keeping in mind that under the
proposed Ordinance persons will still have to apply for a
permit, determination will then be made by the inspectors as
to what is dangerous and what is not, therefore this is not
one hundred percent grandfathering. The Mayor stated again
that if there is a dangerous structure of any type he would
totally support enforcement, demolition, whatever is
necessary. The question of Mayor ProTem Campbell was intent
as to whether encroachment into the ten foot setback and
existing retaining walls are being grandfathered. Councilman
Snow noted that there are two retaining walls that are higher
than eight feet. The Manager said this is actually not
grand fathering otherwise there would not be a requirement to
apply for a permit, conditions can be set yet there could be
an approval process after the fact. Point was raised that
the Planning Commission could determine to turn down each of
these minor plan reviews, is the City ready to deal with
that, the response was that a minor plan review is typically
a Consent Calendar item, that is not forseen as an issue, and
should not preclude deciding this matter. Mayor ProTem
Campbell again expressed concern with there being a loophole
where someone could construct a deck into the setback within
the twelve month period and then seek an after the fact
permit claiming the deck has existed all along. The City
Attorney advised that an earlier version of the ordinance had
a definite date, suggesting for instance that a date of
January 1, 1999 could be used which would prevent someone
from building a deck after the fact, that would make it
somewhat tighter, however unless an inventory is taken there
is nothing that would prevent someone from constructing a
deck, suggesting a visual observation that would not be
intrusive. The Mayor agreed that there should be no problem
with doing a quick inventory. Councilman Boyd referred to
Section 28-2316, subsection (K), relating to non-conforming
fences, that they 'can be maintained and reconstructed in the
non-conforming configuration until such time as the property
upon which such fence is located is redeveloped, upon
redevelopment new fences shall be constructed pursuant to the
regulations set forth', to that he requested an
interpretation and clarification. As to the way a city is
updated, the Mayor said that is when there is an application
for a major remodel and the property is required to be
brought into compliance with current law, making an example
of a one story house with an inadequate side setback, they
are not allowed to build straight up rather build the second
story within the setback so that all of the new construction
is within Code, another example being the existing garages in
Surfs ide that are on the old Pacific Electric Right-of-Way,
none of which have adequate setbacks for their garages.
Councilman Boyd then asked how many of these homes that this
law is being considered for have been redeveloped with this
existing provision in the Code, in other words the properties
should have been required to come into conformity when the
homes were remodeled. The City Attorney offered that
provisions of the Code could be reviewed, however it is not
felt that that would affect this particular ordinance, the
term grandfathering should not be used, what this does is
make a use that was not permitted a permitted use, that is
done frequently and often years later when a city decides
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something should be a permitted use, if approved, there will
be members of the Council that will feel that because of the
circumstances in this particular location decks should be
permitted to encroach into the rear yard setback. with
regard to the question relating to fences he deferred a
specific opinion until later. Mayor Yost offered that no
matter the decision there will be some that are not pleased,
some will claim the law is the law, on the other hand if not
passed there will be a situation of the City policing the
area and issuing demolition orders, taking people to court
and whatever, that is not what the City is for, and stated
his belief that the staff has come up with a reasonable
opportunity for compromise that allows for permitting, that
provides for public safety to make certain things are built
within safety standards, and if not they will come down.
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Mayor Yost moved to approve the introduction of
1419 with the amendments previously mentioned.
Doane seconded the motion.
Ordinance
Councilman
The City Attorney directed attention to Section 5, subsection
3, a change to read "...appropriate permits prior to January
1, 1999...", that will preclude persons from constructing
decks in the next sixty days; a new section 6 which, after
staff research could be deleted upon second reading of the
Ordinance, to read "maximum height of retaining walls shall
be eight (S) feet from either side"; to Section 5, subsection
4, which addresses any new development of decks, language to
reflect "maximum height of twelve and a half feet" and that
they be "terraced"; and that the existing Section 6 shall be
renumbered as "Section 7". Mayor ProTem Campbell made a
statement that she always backs decisions of her Planning
Commissioner, however in this case there have been sufficient
changes to what the Commission considered. The Mayor
mentioned that the Commission has had this issue for ten
years as well, this a good compromise and takes into account
Commission concerns as well. The City Attorney read the
changes once again. It was clarified that the existing rear
and sideyard setbacks stand unchanged.
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NOES:
Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
Boyd
Motion carried
The City Manager said if anyone has an idea of constructing a
deck within the next year while this process applies, they
will take the chance of being found, red tagged, and fined,
also the title of their home would have a notation of an
unpermitted structure that would need to be disclosed in any
real estate transaction. Mayor ProTem Campbell questioned
setting precedent. The City Attorney stated he did not see a
precedent, rather this is unique to this particular area of
the community, it is always uncomfortable to try to resolve
things that do not have permits, it has happened in the past,
there is no guarantee it will ever happen again, and it is I
not felt that if anyone were to try to build a deck within
the next year without permits that there would be any
approval from this Council. As to an inventory, the city
Manager stated it may have already been done, if not, it
could likely be done fairly soon.
STATUS REPORT - ORANGE COUNTY FIRE AUTHORITY - EQUITY PLAN
~ouncilman Boyd made reference to the prior discussion
relating to the Orange County Fire Authority Equity Plan at
which time the Council authorized him to cast a vote to
receive and file that study. He explained that the study
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basically identifies the member agencies, whether they be
contract cities or structural fire fund cities, that over pay
and under pay for fire services and how that situation can be
rectified. The study was prepared, there were numerous
workshops, the cities were requested to comment, a working
group was formed to discuss the issues, however since Seal
Beach issued its formal statement to the study the
determination as to how much this City underpays has changed
dramatically, it is specifically tied to utilization and this
community uses considerable paramedic services, the change is
about a quarter of million dollars per year. Councilman Boyd
said there now needs to be a determination as to whether the
desire continues to be to table and receive and file the
Equity Study, then address a policy issue that would be
consistent with the new recommendations of the Study, if it
is received, tabled, and passed at the Fire Authority level,
it is then understood that there will be no further costs
incurred above the approximate fourteen percent that is
currently known. At this point in time it appears that the
majority of the member agencies support tabling the Study. A
letter has been prepared expressing the disappointment of
this City with the revisions of April 20th, the opinion being
that there is no defined equity method based upon assessed
value and utilization, this could be a significant issue with
the upcoming budget. He pointed out that the letter has been
forwarded to the Chairman of the Fire Authority Board of
Directors. Boyd moved, second by Doane, to receive and file
the status report.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
ORANGE COUNTY WATER DISTRICT MASTER PLAN
The City Manager said as is known, the source of the Seal
Beach primary water supply is the groundwater basin governed
by the Orange County Water District, the District has
prepared a Master Plan to the year 2020 which has
implications for the groundwater basin and the water supply
of Seal Beach. The plan anticipates growth scenarios within
the boundaries of the Water District as well as the proposed
annexation of the area in the vicinity of Irvine, the Irvine
Water District area, the Master Plan proposes to deal with
that growth through the use of treated wastewater flows of
the Santa Ana River, also on the assumption of the continued
availability of Bay Delta and Colorado River water, and on
the supply of ground water replenishment from the Groundwater
Replenishment System. The concern for Seal Beach and other
cities is that there is a lack of certainty that any of the
three strategies will continue to be available over the life
of the Plan, given the pace of development in Riverside and
San Bernardino Counties there will be a significant increased
demand for water from upstream supplies, it is also known
that cutbacks are forthcoming for imported water due to
environmental constraints on the Delta and legal decisions on
the Colorado River, any delays or modifications to the
groundwater replenishment system could jeopardize the third
source of water, in addition, Seal Beach and other coastal
cities need to deal with salinity issues on an ongoing basis.
The Manager said in the opinion of staff the Plan does not
thoroughly or adequately deal with ensuring that the existing
member agencies of the Water District will have their issues
on water quality, salinity in the case of Seal Beach,
addressed and have some security that future demand on the
water basin will not further degrade the water quality. With
regard to annexation and pricing, the Manager said that
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relates to new demands on the system that would place a major
strain on the ground water system and require an acceleration
of increasing the supplementation of ground water supplies,
with that member agencies such as Seal Beach would be asked
to pay an increased rate in order to support the cost of new
facilities and delivery of water to the annexing agencies,
primarily South county, that is something that the District
Board of Directors was requested to take into account,
possibly tiered pricing to assure that the City would not be
paying more because of future annexations in high growth
areas. The Manager noted that some of the surrounding member
agencies have taken a rather aggressive approach by demanding
that the EIR be recirculated and revised to more specifically
deal with the issues mentioned, this would be inserted into
the record by requesting that the District take the concerns
of Seal Beach into account. If the Council has no objection,
the Manager stated that the letter proposed will be formally
submitted to the District.
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Yost moved, second by Doane, to authorize the submittal of
the letter to the orange County Water District defining the
concerns of Seal Beach regarding the 2020 Master Plan.
Councilman Boyd noted that it is the Sanitation District that
is undertaking the ground water replenishment system, there
is a video that has been produced by the District and may be
aired on local television telling about the Sanitation
District and the ground water replenishment system, a $121
million system, taxpayer money, would be used to treat
wastewater, pump it back up the Santa Ana River to a holding
basin that would then seep back down into the aquifer and
eventually be extracted for drinking water, this would be in
lieu of creating another outfall.
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NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 8:42 p.m. The Council reconvened at
8:50 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to order.
MONTHLY INVESTMENT REPORT
With regard to the Monthly Investment Report Councilman Boyd
made reference to the Investment Chart, specifically the
Excess Over Expenditures column, inquiring if that reflects
more expenditures than revenues received, and if it is the
purpose of the TRAN to cover this. The Director of
Administrative Services confirmed that that is the purpose of
the TRAN, also to be kept in mind is that this is cyclical
and a large payment of property tax and franchise payment is
due shortly, this a typical time of year situation. Boyd
moved, second by Yost, to receive and file the Monthly
Investment Report for March, 1999.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Snow, Yost
None Motion carried
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CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
No report was presented.
CITY MANAGER REPORT
No report was presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Yost declared the period for public Comments to be
open. Mr. Gordon Shanks, Surf Place, made reference back to
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the deck structure rear yard setback issue considered
earlier, stating there are two issues of concern to him. He
mentioned the holding of public hearings on certain
ordinances, from time to time changes are made to an
ordinance to the point that the public hearing no longer has
an affect, in his opinion that was the case with the deck
ordinance, his personal opinion in support of the action
taken with regard to the disposition of the existing decks,
yet there was then action to include a limit on the height of
walls and of decks however that was not a proposal under the
public hearing, in his opinion those issues should go back to
the Planning Commission and look at what other cities have
done. Mr. Stan Anderson, Balboa Drive, again mentioned the
success of the Car Show, commending a job well done by the
two chairpersons as well as past chairpersons whose efforts
are making the Show even better. There being no further
speakers, Mayor Yost declared Public Comments closed.
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COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilmember Campbell noted that the Bixby Company took down
a number of trees on the golf course this past week,
explained that the Bixby project consists of a number of
different phases, on the south side of Lampson there will be
a senior care facility, a hotel, and two restaurants, at this
time proposed to be Islands and an Out Back Steak House, on
the north side of Lampson there will be the Towne Center
north of St. Cloud, the golf course will be rebuilt, they
will work on the western nine holes first, the eastern nine
holes are presently open, then reverse the areas for
improvement, this expected to be complete a year from June,
her disappointment is that they could have left the Oleanders
along Lampson, and looking to the golf course area now one
only sees the trees that have been taken down, that is making
some residents upset. There is little being done with the
shopping center area with the exception of some grading, and
the interior alterations of Mr. X's has begun. Councilmember
Campbell again advised the Director of Public Works that the
streets of Columbine, Banyon, Camelia, and the cul-de-sacs
are in need of repaving, those residents are most unhappy and
have been gathering signatures on petitions, no streets were
done last year, supposedly only Harvard Drive in College Park
West will be done this year, and when the capital improvement
budget is considered it is for certain the people from
College Park East will be present. Councilmember Campbell
inquired about the recent trip to Sacramento. Mayor Yost
extended appreciation to Councilman Boyd who traveled to
Sacramento last week to lobby for monies for the continuation
of the bike path, which was somewhat successful. Councilman
Boyd mentioned that the City Manager and Director of Public
Works went to Sacramento as well. With regard to
establishing a beach committee, Mayor Yost said there will be
an informal education session on May 13th at 7:00 p.m.
featuring a representative of the Orange County Health
Department speaking to water quality in the San Gabriel
River, similar sessions planned to be held every couple of
months. For information of the public, he announced that
water quality comparison reports are available on his web
site through the City's site. Councilman Doane made
reference to the Talk of the Town show hosted by Rick Paap,
announced that he will be the stand in host for the next show
on behalf of, that Mr. Stan Anderson and Councilman Boyd will
each do a fifteen minute segment, and recalling the prior
cautions of Mr. George Briggeman with regard to reduction of
refuse to the landfills by fifty percent by the year 2000 or
be subject to substantial fines, he announced that Mr.
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Russell Dicks of the City's disposal service will be speaking
to that issue, and encouraged all residents to watch and
listen. With reference to Mr. George Briggeman, it was said
it is believed he continues to have a connection with the
Briggeman Disposal Company. Councilman Doane mentioned how
obvious the sidewalk problems on Main Street are when one
sees the street vacant of cars, as he did this past weekend,
to which he said that sidewalk problem must be tackled.
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the City Council would meet
in Closed Session to discuss the items identified on the
agenda, conferences with legal counsel with regard to two
potential cases of anticipated litigation pursuant to
Government Code Section 54956.9(b), and existing litigation
pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(a) in the cases
of Los Alamitos versus City of Seal Beach and League for
Coastal Protection versus the Coastal Commission. The
Council adjourned to Closed Session at 9:05 p.m. and
reconvened at 9:44 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting
to order. The City Attorney reported that the Council gave
direction on one item, no other action was taken.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m.
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Seal Beach, California
May 10, 1999
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:00 p.m. with Mayor Yost calling the meeting to
order. Councilmember Campbell welcomed Girl Scout Troop 1441
of College Park East who led the Salute to the Flag. The
Scouts introduced themselves, Councilmember Campbell
presented each with a commemorative Seal Beach pin, noted
that they assisted with the recent lOX run as well, and
thanked them for their attendance. Councilmember Campbell
offered that this type of participation is a continuing
effort to introduce youth to their City government.
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