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Seal Beach, California
June 30, 1998
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 4:00 p.m. with Mayor Brown calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Brown
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Yost
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mayor Brown made reference to the agenda item relating to a
status report on the El Toro Reuse Plan, advised those
present that there had been a misunderstanding as to the
focus of discussion, the intent had been to merely review the
procedures, not a discussion of taking a position on a Plan,
and that this item will be continued to an unspecified date
without discussion at this meeting.
Brown moved, second by Campbell, to approve the order of the
agenda as revised pursuant to Mayor Brown's statement.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Brown, Campbell, Doane, Yost
None Motion carried
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Boyd moved, second by Campbell, to waive the reading in full
of all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the
waiver of reading shall be deemed to be given by all
Councilmembers after reading of the title unless specific
request is made at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Brown, Campbell, Doane, Yost
None Motion carried
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CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING / ORDINANCE NUMBER 1433 -
MORATORIUM - THREE STORY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES - MAIN STREET
SPECIFIC PLAN AREA
Mayor Brown declared the continued public hearing open to
consider extension of the moratorium on three story
structures within the Main Street Specific Plan Area. The
City Clerk certified that notice of the continued hearing had
been posted as required, and reported no communications
received. The Director of Development Services presented the
staff report that reviewed the moratorium currently in place,
the impacts of the moratorium on the property located at 328
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Main Street, the various approvals that the 328 property has
received through the City and the Coastal Commission, as well
as an overview of previous moratorium ordinances that the
City adopted where a policy decision was made by the Council
at that time to exclude projects that were going through the
process and would have been impacted by the moratorium
ordinances. It was noted that the report also addressed I
vested rights where, under California law, this particular
property has no vested rights at this point, and until there
is an issued building permit and substantial funds have been
expended to implement the building permit there is
technically no vested rights under the law in California.
The Director noted there are two ordinances presented for
consideration, one to maintain the exemption for 328 Main
Street, the other to remove that exemption, the impact of
that ordinance would be to basically not allow building
permits to be issued for the 328 Main Street project, also,
any future development proposal for that property would need
to comply with standards as they exist at that time. He
noted that attachments to the staff report included Coastal
Commission staff reports, various permit approvals that have
been received to date, and copies of deposit fees that have
been paid to the City, primarily the Public Works Department,
for grading, plan check, water connection, etc.
Mayor Brown stated that the purpose of the continued hearing
was to allow comments from those having an interest in the
328 Main Street property. Councilman Yost reported having
reviewed the tape of the last meeting from which he had been
absent, the documentation as well, also, ex-parte
communications from Mrs. Mitzi Morton and Mrs. Carla Watson I
in favor of the moratorium being applied to 328 Main Street,
Mr. Don Cox and Mr. Ron Bennett who had opposite opinions.
Councilman Boyd reported that he had been left a message by
the applicant, a call was returned however no communication
took place, there has been communication with Mr. Dick
Mitchell and Mrs. Mitzi Morton. Councilmember Campbell
reported ex-parte communications with Mrs. Mitzi Morton and
Dr. Hood, the District Four Planning Commissioner. Mr. Bob
Griffith, Catalina Avenue, identified himself as the owner of
the 328 Main Street property, also a twenty-six year Main
Street business owner. Mr. Griffith said when the design for
the property was prepared he had waited for the Main Street
Specific Plan to be completed, that with some knowledge of
the requirements, political views, etc., his intent was to
comply with every regulation. He noted that he read the
Specific Plan when it was adopted, for more than two years
people had input to that Plan, it is a good document, does
not try to micro-manage each parcel of property as each is
unique, and it brings structures into the guidelines of
thirty feet. Mr. Griffith said his design was premised on
the thirty foot height limit, nothing additional has been
requested, thirty feet was the goal, the plan was brought to
the Planning Department from which an approval in concept was I
received, the plan was taken to the Coastal Commission, with
the approval in concept, only to find that the City is not as
stringent with regard to parking as is the Coastal
Commission, under the Specific Plan five to seven parking
spaces were required, the Commission noted this as being a
new project, they were informed that the top floor would be
utilized as his office for possibly two to three persons, to
meet Coastal requirements the project was redesigned, the
project finally received a permit, providing every parking
space that the Coastal Commission required, on-site, no
phantom parking spaces, no in-lieu, no spaces located on
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other properties. Mr. Griffith expressed his affection for
Seal Beach, the goals of the Specific Plan propose to
maintain the small town, village atmosphere, the character,
noted his enjoyment in walking Main Street, talking to
friends, and to inquiries as to what he planned for the 328
property, that was an unanswerable question as it was not
known what would comply with City guidelines. He said he
never gave appearing before the Planning Commission a thought
as he had complied with all of the rules, the Commission is
for those that do not comply. He noted a rumor that the plan
is for a car museum, that then appearing as a flier, the
rumor is not true. He said the facts need to be made clear,
what the plans are, where they do or do not comply, where it
fits with the goals of the Specific Plan, explained that the
top floor is set back by fourteen to sixteen feet, the
appearance is that of a two story building, thirty feet in
height, the adjacent building is within six inches of the
height, the theater is thirty-eight or forty feet, this
structure four to five feet taller than the building to the
south. Mr. Griffith asked why people did not call him if
they had questions as to his plans, as to not being at the
last meeting where this was discussed, he received no notice
of the discussion, again, why would he be present since his
plan complies, his would be one of the few legally conforming
buildings on Main Street, Seal Beach is uniquely eclectic,
people do not want all the same architecture, his building is
unique as is the property, no other property the same on Main
Street, and a unique design. Mr. Griffith offered to answer
questions of the Council.
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Councilman Yost inquired as to the amount of expenditure on
this project thus far. Mr. Griffith responded that the
property was purchased about two years ago for approximately
$180,000, design work and plan check has been about $50,000.
Councilman Yost noted that between the City concept approval
and Coastal approval there are differences in square
footages, the office space on the third floor increased from
1,095 to 1,804 square feet. Mr. Griffith said the redesign
cut back the size of the third floor and the commercial, the
intent to issue permit from Coastal gives the exact size.
Councilman Yost also questioned the first floor retail
reduction from 936 to 703 square feet, also, what is
conceived as to how the parking will occur in that a
requirement of the Specific Plan is that it be publicly
accessible, who will it serve, how will it service the
commercial area, question with regard to the lift, and
attendant to man the lift as well. To that Mr. Griffith
stated the commercial was redesigned for the reason that
Coastal requires more parking than does the Specific Plan,
three spaces will be provided on the first floor primarily
for public parking, second floor parking will serve the
office with a car lift, confirmed that a qualified lift
operator would be available at all times when the businesses
are open, in fact that will be a requirement of employment,
they will be given instructions and signed off, it is
basically a matter of pushing a button, the Coastal
Commission addressed this issue as well by requiring an
approved parking program. It was alleged that the second
floor parking appears to be for employees rather than public,
the response was yes and no, it would be public parking if
the person were to have business within the building. Mr.
Griffith acknowledged knowing of the 1984 Downtown
Revitalization Study, noted another was done some years
later, both saying basically the same thing. Councilman Yost
noted that by consensus it had been recommended that
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requirements should allow no more than two stories, and
inquired if staff had reviewed the 1984 Task Force report in
dealing with the 328 Main Street application with regard to
documentation, applicable laws, etc. as the recommendation
was contained in the Task Force final report. The Director
of Development Services explained that when building plans
are submitted they are reviewed for compliance with the Code I
of the City, the Code currently specifies thirty feet in
height however does not specify the number of stories, that
applies to all commercial zones, noted that there was a 1984
recommendation from the Task Force to the Council however the
City to date has not adopted story limitations for commercial
zones, reiterating that a project is judged against what is
set forth in the Code. Mr. Griffith said he would believe
that that was merely a recommendation, which Councilman Yost
acknowledged, however noted some other recommendations appear
to have been adopted. Councilman Boyd said if he had the
ability to build a nice office he too may have taken the
approach of Mr. Griffith, yet there are other factors that
need to be taken into account. He inquired as to Mr.
Griffith's familiarity with the 1984 Study, or participation
in, to which Mr. Griffith acknowledged he was aware of the
Study and has participated in some other study committees.
To the inquiry if he had any concern if his plan would be
questionable when brought to the City, what instructions had
been given the architect, anything specific to the parking
area, Mr. Griffith responded in the negative, this is a
unique building for a unique property, he was aware the plans
were required to be approved in concept, there are no two
like buildings on Main Street, this a goal of the Specific I
Plan, the instruction to the architect was to design a nice
looking building, comply with all of the rules, comply with
all parking regulations, and that he had made the suggestion
that that could be accomplished with a lift, lifts common in
other areas such as San Francisco, designed as a two story
building with concealed on-site parking. Councilman Boyd
asked why not construct a two story building with parking on
the top floor, also, if driving down the alley there is a
garage door shown, to which Mr. Griffith said that third
story parking had been a thought however he was not
necessarily comfortable with an extra ten feet of elevator,
it could have probably accomplished the same goal, yet he
chose otherwise, and the door off the alley is a security
door open during business hours, desirable also is to have
cars parked out of the sun. Should the three story building
be approved, Councilman Boyd asked if a condition to not
allow vehicle storage from midnight to 5:00 a.m. would be
acceptable, to which Mr. Griffith responded that it could be
a condition, however believed that has been addressed as a
deed restriction, to which he noted that if the property were
to change ownership the use can not be intensified.
Councilman Boyd noted that the building proposed to be
constructed is about 7,600 square feet, the net retail is 515
square feet, eight percent of the building, which is I
interesting in that with that size of a building, to build
out, as valuable as property is, and the reason this has not
been addressed before is that no one would build a three
story building to park vehicles in, and if, according to the
Coastal Commission the project is required to have ten
parking spaces, at $3,500 per space through a development
agreement with City that would be $35,000, where the cost of
building an additional story on the building will likely be
much more than that, therefore it does not seem to be
economically viable to building a building with one story
dedicated solely to parking. He acknowledged that inside
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parking is a unique idea, common and necessary in San
Francisco and other areas of the world. Councilman Boyd
noted that the Coastal Commission has also required that
balconies and deck areas not be enclosed, and inquired as to
the thinking behind the third floor deck. Mr. Griffith said
the deck as now proposed was part of the redesign, the City
ordinance requires a top deck to be set back, confirmed that
the back setback was because of parking, the front setback
was revised as well, also, in reference to the Coastal
Commission report and the City's in-lieu parking program, Mr.
Griffith noted that the Commission deemed the program as not
a means of mitigating the parking, they would not have
approved the project, that again the reason for the project
redesign. Councilmember Campbell recalled discussion of
third stories at the Planning Commission level during
discussions of the Main Street Specific Plan, that was
considered a moot point because the Commission had thrown out
in-lieu parking, the Council in turn put it in, therefore
knowing the Commission concern, when this plan came in for a
third story asked why it was not questioned. The Director
responded that the public hearing process was gone through
before both the Commission and Council with regard to the
Specific Plan, and there was no discussion by the Council to
place a story limit in the Plan, the ordinance adopted that
set forth the design standards does not include a story
limitation for that area of the City, therefore that was not
seen as an issue. Councilmember Campbell noted that there
were strong feelings as to third stories at the Commission
level. Councilmember Yost inquired if, since Councilmember
Campbell discussed and deliberated on this subject matter at
the Planning Commission level, does that pose an issue now as
a member of the Council. The City Attorney advised that this
is a legislative matter, not quasi-judicial, therefore can be
acted upon at both levels. Councilman Yost inquired as to
the height of the parking area in the 328 plan, and the
minimum height to classify as a story. The Director
responded that seven feet, six inches is the minimum ceiling
height under Code for a story, however was uncertain as to
the height proposed for the parking level of this structure.
Councilman Yost said it is believed that all are concerned
that three stories on Main Street is not the best of ideas as
that is a thirty to fifty percent increase in the intensity
of use. Mr. Griffith contended that if Main Street were
retained as it is presently, and the City was approached with
plans for any building on the Street that complied with all
parking requirements, there would be at least a fifty percent
reduction of commercial space, if that were to happen that
would be a significant disintensification. Councilman Boyd
explained that the Council will not be deliberating whether
or not 328 Main Street can be built, it is whether 328 should
be included in the moratorium, the issue is if 328 can go
forward and be built or if the project will be required to
wait until the Council determines what is felt to be
consistent with the Main Street Specific Plan and the
integrity of the community, to which he noted one of his
campaign issues was keeping Seal Beach a small town. If 328
Main Street were included in the moratorium, Mayor Brown
inquired as to the options of the property owner. The City
Attorney responded that if 328 Main Street is removed from
the exemption the applicant has the opportunity to apply for
relief from the moratorium, a public hearing would be held at
which evidence would be presented, some of which has already
been presented, and the Council could grant relief from the
moratorium, another option would be to wait, if the ordinance
is adopted at this meeting, which will be in effect for a
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maximum ten months and fifteen days, giving the City time to
study the issue. With regard to vested property rights,
Councilman Yost noted that one issue was the amount of
expense, said to be about $50,000 thus far for plan check,
Coastal Commission review, architect fees, etc., and
questioned if that comes close to a significant level of
expenditure. The City Attorney advised that those expenses
must be incurred after the issuance of a building permit, the
key requirement is that the applicant is relying on a validly
issued building permit and significant expenses are incurred,
pre-issuance expenses do not give a vested right, courts do
not look at money spent before issuance of a permit. Council
again requested assurance that there is no vested right even
if the applicant is relying on the issuance of the permit or
if it had been implied by staff that it would be issued. The
City Attorney emphasized that the permit needs to be issued
first, that is the key component of the vested right
doctrine, having the permit in hand the applicant can then
spend significant money, the courts have generally looked at
somewhere in the area of $300,000 to $400,000, that of course
dependant upon the size of the property. Councilman Boyd
stated he wished to assure the property rights of the
applicant are protected, also assure that the legal exposure
of the City is limited, that there is solid ground, he would
not want to send the applicant away or have the business
community unhappy on a questionable decision. The City
Attorney stated that is why there is a relief provision built
into the ordinance, if the applicant were to avail himself of
that option he would gather his evidence, be more precise on
what was spent, the Council could then decide whether or not
the project is compatible. Councilman Doane said from his
observation the applicant did not apply for a permit
therefore the money spent thus far does not count, yet, how
does one apply for a permit without incurring expenses, one
must have something tangible to show at the time of applying
for the permit. As a point of clarification, the Director
explained that when someone comes to the City to construct a
building or an addition they submit a set of plans, those
plans go through a plan check process to assure compliance
with all Building, Mechanical, Plumbing, Fire Codes, once
that is complete and corrections have been made to those
plans, at that point the applicant is able to obtain a
building permit, a fee is initially paid for plan check, then
there is a building permit fee, in this case the applicant
has gone through the plan check process, the plans are now
out for some corrections that need to be made, yet they have
not as yet been submitted back for checking and a building
permit, the City Attorney is saying that you vest your right
to continue building the project once the building permit is
in hand and once a substantial amount of monies have been
spent in reliance on that permit to do the grading,
foundation work, framing, etc., until the building permit is
in hand there is no authority to build anything. Councilman
Yost inquired if a parking area is built under the seven foot
six inch limit for a habitable structure could it then never
be a habitable structure. The Director explained it would
not be a habitable area however would be a story under the
definition of the Building Code, review shows that this
project shows the second story as seven feet, ten and three-
quarter inches. Councilman Boyd made reference to the third
floor area on the plans submitted to the Coastal Commission,
something that looks like a piano, to which he requested
confirmation. Mr. Griffith suggested that question be posed
to the architect, directed attention to a subsequent page
showing a dog, and stated that is not his dog either, these
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are referred to as architectural things. Councilman Boyd
offered that when plans are submitted for review that show a
sink and a kitchen, parking spaces, an elevator, etc., it can
then be assumed that the floor plan and contents are
accurate, including a piano.
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Mr. Ron Bennett said he is the owner of the property just
west of the 328 Main parcel and had no particular objection
to the building, he found Mr. Griffith's plan an interesting
idea with the provision for ten parking spaces, otherwise he
predicted that the Councilor Planning Commission would allow
someone to build a much smaller building on that property,
buy parking spaces at $3,500 each, which is actually about
$1,500 to the City, those are parking spaces that do not
exist, which means his building would have parking spaces yet
not on the street or in his parking area. He claimed the
current system is a terrible idea for the City, a good idea
for business persons like himself to buy them, yet this does
not work, and in his opinion people should not be allowed to
buy parking spaces. With regard to height, Mr. Bennett
pointed out that the theater must be at least forty feet, the
next building is twenty-nine and a half, his building is
nearly twenty-seven feet, it is unclear if people object to
the thirty foot height limit, which everyone should be aware
of, if not that, then the issue must be the three stories.
With regard to the plan of Mr. Griffith, said he does not see
three stories, rather a ground floor with a small retail, a
second story for parking use which is not deemed to be a
habitable story but an innovative use of space, and the level
above that is set back sixteen feet from the property line
which gives the building the look of a two story building
from the sidewalk or across the street. Mr. Bennett said the
rules have been written for years, the property owner came up
with an innovative solution, and in the end those persons who
do nothing positive for the community complain. He pointed
out that the Coastal Commission required ten parking spaces,
the City required just seven, that is a positive for him,
thirty percent more than the City would require. With regard
to the comment that this is not economically feasible, that
may be so for most, it doesn't make money, stated that Mr.
Griffith has lived in Seal Beach for years, raised his
family, has a business here, and wants his personal office,
it matters not if he loses money, to which he offered that
Mr. Griffith paid too much for the property, if he can not
build what he thought he could pursuant to City Code, he has
already incurred expenses for architects, Coastal Commission,
etc., and now is being considered to be included in a
moratorium. Mr. Bennett offered that he has no problem with
moratoriums, he too does not want to see three story
buildings on Main Street, maybe thirty feet is even too tall,
yet this applicant complied with all of the rules, was
straight forward, did not appear before the Planning
Commission because there was no requirement to do so, if
three stories were such an issue why was it not brought up
before, and how was one supposed to know about a 1984
reference to a feeling that some people had relating to three
stories. To a question as to whether the parking would be
accessible to the public, Mr. Bennett said basically none of
it is because it would be surprising if any building on Main
Street serves any more than the people who work there, most
spaces are actually labeled by the businesses, and if Mr.
Griffith just covers his own parking use, his clients, he
will have done more than other businesses, providing more
than others. With reference to a comment regarding over-
night parking, he said if the applicant were to choose to
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ride his bicycle and leave his car over-night what is the
difference, that question seems to be somewhat intrusive, if
he used three of the spaces for his personal use even that
would be reasonable. He noted comment also that the issue is
inclusion in the moratorium, ten months plus in itself is
economically devastating, then, what happens at the end of
that period of time, if this property is included in the I
moratorium his opinion is that the answer to the project is -
no, to that the suggestion of Mr. Bennett was that 328 Main
not be included in the moratorium, let the building be built,
then if so desired do not let such a plan happen again, and
it is likely not feasible for someone else. Mr. John Baker,
said he is a thirty year plus resident and business owner,
recalled having used the subject property for parking,
whether that may have been legal or not, the property owner
was then given permission to remove the paved area, it was
fenced, and became a dust bowl, the price of the property was
considered inconceivable for most due to the restrictions of
the City, then Mr. Griffith decided to purchase the land, he
followed all of the rules, and from the design concept it can
not be determined whether it is two or three stories, that is
no consequence if it meets the requirements for the street,
he has worked hard at making the building fit the design of
the Street, and questioned why the attempt to stop the
project. Mr. Baker said he believed he was a member of the
1984 Task Force, no one thought of three stories and thirty
feet, it was two stories and thirty feet, no one brought up
the fact that possibly three stories could work, things like
setbacks, store fronts, areas for outdoor tables, etc. were
the considerations. Mr. Baker said he does not understand
the concern with this project, there is no impact on parking, I
the City should support what works, suggesting that the
proposal be allowed to go forward. Mr. Stan Anderson,
businessman and more than forty year resident, concurred with
the comments of Mr. Bennett, noted that the project as
proposed meets all requirements, and urged Council support.
Ms. Geri West, Electric Avenue, stated that Mr. Griffith, Mr.
Baker, Mrs. Morton, and Mrs. Kredell and others had served
with her on the 1984 Downtown Task Force, Mr. Griffith was a
representative of the business and property owners, the
committee on which they served reached a consensus that
buildings on Main Street should only be two stories in
height, therefore he knew of the sentiment in the community
when his project was conceived. She said she and Mrs. Morton
have a list of the members, the committees, and the minutes
of those meetings, and noted that citizens have spent many
hours testifying before governmental bodies, serving on task
forces and committees to make this City what it is today. In
response to a prior comment, Ms. West said she was one of
those who formed against duplexes being built on the Electric
Avenue right-of-way some thirty years ago, among other
involvements. She asked that the moratorium be extended and
that 328 Main Street not be exempted. Mr. Roger West, I
Electric Avenue, expressed support for the moratorium
prohibiting three story structures on Main Street and
specifically for the attempt at approval for 328 Main,
claiming that this is setting precedent, if this one is
allowed others will seek the same. He objected to the
comment that the 328 Main property owner had little notice to
prepare for this meeting, to which he countered that he and
others had no notice, had to seek out information on their
own, in fact certain information before the Council was
provided by them, the other argument, which may have some
consideration, however not thought to be justification in
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this case, is the amount of money that the 328 Main Street
property owner has spent thus far and that he should now be
recompensed by the City if he is not issued permits, yet the
law states that there is no justification until after
receiving permits. Mr. West said there are a number of
things to consider, Mr. Griffith is a nice person, has been a
resident for a long time therefore should have known better,
should have sought community approval in advance, if allowed
the City will need to let the project be finished, to that it
is argued that there is need for the three story building to
be a profitable project, with regard to other projects that
were exempted at the time of moratoriums they were not such
egregious violation of standards and use, reiterated that
this project is precedent setting and should be included in
the continuance of the moratorium. Ms. Mitzi Morton, Seal
Beach, objected to comments of a prior speaker that those in
opposition to this have done nothing positive for the
community. As points of background she stated in 1982 the
Old Town Business Association established a Main Street
Revitalization Committee in an effort to make the Street
economically viable which would benefit property owners,
merchants and the City through increased sales tax, a
consultant was retained in 1983, two Task Forces were
appointed which included residents from every district,
including Leisure World, members of the Business Association
and some building owners. One Task Force was formed to study
traffic, parking and urban design, consisted of six business
and nine resident representatives, the second Task Force was
charged with the responsibility of marketing and business
analysis consisting of eight business and seven resident
members, community members and merchants also attended the
meetings and provided input, several of which continue
business on Main Street today. Ms. Morton offered that the
community has come a long way from the less than desirable
Main Street to what it is today, which is the result of the
studies and recommendations of the Task Force, expressed
pride in having been part of what has been accomplished and
the decision to limit buildings to two stories on Main
Street. Ms. Morton claimed that when the 328 Main Street
plans were brought to the city the staff should have known
the project would be controversial, as the Coastal Commission
noted, this would set a precedent, there are not even three
story structures on Pacific Coast Highway or Seal Beach
Boulevard, only Boeing, there was opportunity to bring this
to the attention of the Councilor Commission, rather, the
City worked with the property owner and builder to get
approval from the Coastal Commission. Ms. Morton requested
that the 328 Main Street property be included in the
moratorium extension to allow for further review. Mr. Gordon
Shanks, Surf Place, mentioned the reference to the use of car
lifts in San Francisco, pointed out that this is a twenty-
five foot lot, theoretically if it were a fifty foot lot this
could be done, however everything is parallel parking, to use
the second story parking one would drive in, use the
elevator, then back onto the floor to park, to exit would
require going forward and on the first floor back out of the
building, which he deemed to not be adequate parking. Mr.
Shanks again mentioned the twenty-five foot width of the lot,
a difficult lot for development, and pushing the parking
capabilities to the limit, too, this will be the only public
parking with a garage door, it is understood that that door
will be open at all times yet Coastal Commission requires a
speaker box outside the door to allow people entry. Mr.
Shanks supposed that if at some point Mr. Griffith sold his
business, the second story parking could become a storage
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area with security, of prime concern is the garage door that
could be left closed rather than allowing people to see where
they can park to frequent the stores, and sometimes share
parking in the evenings with adjacent businesses, etc. Mr.
Shanks expressed his opinion that the 328 Main Street
proposal sets a bad precedent for parking, that should have
been a warning at least, questioned the parking adequacy as I
called for by Coastal Commission, to which he stated they
should not have granted their approval, nor should the City,
spoke favorably of the moratorium continuance and inclusion
of 328 Main Street. In an effort to provide more parking
spaces, question was posed as to what is foreseen as the
problem with putting the spaces into a structure, to which
Mr. Shanks responded that there are many people who are not
capable of backing cars out of a space, parking for
handicapped persons would be even more difficult. Mr. Chi
Kredell, Seal way, stated his opposition to three story
buildings on Main Street, there is presently only one such
structure and it is four stories.
Mr. Griffith asked what the conditions are that he is not
meeting or not meeting close enough, would it be more ideal
to have parking on a twenty-five foot lot, the goal is to not
add a square foot of building space on Main Street, which
people are doing, it seems to be easy to say why things can
not be done. He again said this is a thirty foot building,
the design makes it look like a two story building, no one
can see the parking, the adjacent building is thirty-eight
feet, his second story has no commercial value, it only
provides parking for that which the City has failed to
provide, his idea was to design something that provides every 1-
parking space. With regard to notification, he offered that
the Coastal Commission has a requirement to notice, there was
not one opponent at the Commission hearing, possibly he
should have been aware of the previous moratorium discussion,
there has been nothing out of line, he was willing to
redesign with the two-story look that complies with every
rule of the City, of the Coastal Commission, the building is
unique, and asked who wants to maintain the small town
character more than he does. Mr. Griffith asked to be
treated fairly, that the moratorium extension be passed with
the exemption of 328 Main Street or let the first adopted
moratorium expire, there is no public safety issue with this
item. To a question posed, the project architect reported
the interior garage height is seven feet ten inches. There
being no further comments, Mayor Brown declared the public
hearing closed.
Councilmember Campbell inquired as to what can be done with
this building if it is built and at some point Mr. Griffith
determines to sell the property, at that point could in-lieu
be applied. The Director of Development Services responded
that the building could be used for the uses as permitted,
the parking would remain parking, parking is based on the I
square footage of the building, City and Coastal Commission
parking requirements are different, Coastal is more
stringent, a deed restriction on the property has been
recorded that limits the square footage for office and retail
uses, and stipulates the required number of parking spaces to
be maintained, that deed restriction runs with the land and
will continue irregardless of the ownership of the building.
As to in-lieu parking the response was no in that the Coastal
Commission does not recognize the in-lieu program of the
City, therefore to build a new structure parking must be
provided to meet Coastal Commission requirements, that is the
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reason a number of Main Street businesses over the years have
had to lease spaces at another location in order to obtain a
Coastal permit. It was clarified that the deed restrictions
require that any change to the project must go back to the
Coastal Commission. Councilman Yost stated he could see
positive aspects of the 328 Main Street project, eliminating
the need for street parking is good, leaving more spaces for
persons to park in front of the various businesses, and
according to legal opinion alleviates the issue of vested
interest. On the other hand in his opinion this does set a
precedent, it is not felt that anyone would want to see a
fifty percent increase of intensity on Main Street if three
stories are allowed, in this case a story of the building is
for the purpose of on-site parking albeit not in the most
user friendly manner as a speaker had described, also the use
of the property has not been thoroughly researched, nor has
it been before the Planning Commission. Councilman Yost
mentioned that of considerable concern was the request of the
new Council to enact an urgency ordinance for an issue that
has been before the City for some time, particularly given
the documentation from 1984 and prior that shows people have
given thought to three stories and determined that was not
desired, said he personally has no problem with the thirty
foot height limit, of concern is setting a precedent for
three stories, again on the positive side the project does
provide parking on-site, more parking than the City would
have required, more cars off the street, and the design seems
to be in character with the area. The Mayor offered that he
had come into this meeting somewhat sympathetic to the 328
Main Street project, the initial impression had been that the
property owner had no knowledge that a third story was a
problem, yet it has been said that the owner was a member of
the 1984 Task Force that determined that third stories could
be a problem, which is troublesome, of concern also is if
this building is permitted, the difficulty the Planning
Commission will have in addressing a moratorium for three
story buildings when there is one already in the process.
Councilman Doane pointed out that the reason for the
moratorium is to prevent additional three story buildings if
the Planning Commission so chooses, however he could see no
objection to this proje9t even if the Commission and Council
determine to restrict three story structures in the future.
He offered that when the plans for 328 Main were developed
the property owner followed all of the restrictions and
parameters necessary, his feeling is that this is a good use
of a very small lot that is currently being used for nothing,
it takes nothing away from the small town atmosphere that
everyone desires, his preference would be to allow the 328
Main project to continue through the process.
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Councilman Doane moved that the moratorium be extended and
that the 328 Main Street property be exempted. Mayor Brown
seconded the motion for discussion purposes. The City
Attorney confirmed that a four fifths vote is required to
continue the moratorium as well as to remove the exemption,
and noted that two ordinances have been drafted for
consideration by the Council, one extends the moratorium
Ordinance 1432 without change, the other deletes the
exemption for 328 Main Street. It was noted that the intent
of the motion was to continue the exemption of 328 Main.
Councilman Doane made reference to a prior comment that
identified certain members of the 1984 Task Force, to which
he pointed out that one of the members built a three story
structure on Electric and provided parking underneath, there
is an existing four story on Main Street, thus precedent has
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been set, the moratorium will merely prevent further
precedent. It was noted that the four story is grandfathered
under pre-existing law. Councilman Boyd noted that this
issue specifically relates to his Council district, he
campaigned on keeping Seal Beach what it is, that is felt to
be the opinion of all even though there may be differing
views of what Seal Beach should and should not be, the plan I
of Mr. Griffith is good, he reviewed the Code, determined
what he wanted to build and build into. Putting that aside,
Councilman Boyd said of immediate concern is that if he owned
a twenty-five foot lot on 8th or 10th Street he could not
build thirty feet high nor build a cupola that is sixty-four
square feet, only twenty-five feet maximum is allowed, and it
is not believed to be the intent of any person that owns or
rents a piece of property or vacations in Seal Beach to
expect the residential component of the City to be diminutive
in comparison to the commercial districts, it is believed
that the desire is to have a cohesiveness, an environment of
not having one tower over the other. Councilman Boyd said he
favors the moratorium for the reason it gives the opportunity
to look at whether the community wants to allow Main Street
to be five feet taller and possibly have three stories yet
not allow the residential areas to do the same. He commended
the innovation of the parking plan for 328 Main, deemed the
in-lieu program as something that needs to be revisited and
restructured, citing $3,500 per space as a bargain, to which
he said if there were property available it would likely be a
good idea to purchase it and sell spaces for $9,100 as the
Coastal Commission has suggested. Councilman Boyd again
commended the 328 Main plan, it has maximized everything,
taking a creative approach to a small piece of property, yet I
he must represent the electorate of this district that can
only build to a maximum of twenty-five feet, the architecture
of 328 is likewise well done, from the front no one would be
aware it is a three story building, possibly from the back,
his intent is to look at everything in the City, not just
Main Street or 328, the whole picture, the question is if
this is something that the City wants to allow at this time
or take the ten months and fifteen days to review. To the
question of Councilman Yost if the deed restriction is to
only allow parking to be used for parking, the Director
responded in the affirmative, the staff report packet
contains a copy of the recorded deed restriction on the title
of the property on behalf of the Coastal Commission which
limits the first floor retail, the third floor office use,
and requires the parking areas to be maintained for parking,
and to a question if it could ever be used for something
other than that would intensify the use on Main Street, the
Director said he could not commit to never because the
property owner could request an amendment to the approval
through the Coastal Commission, which would require another
hearing under the approval process, public hearings before
the Planning Commission and Council would not be required
given the construction of the Code at this point in time, as I
his project as proposed is in compliance with all current
City zoning provisions, there is no requirement for a
conditional use permit, no variances are requested, the
parking is provided in accordance with City standards, the
building meets size requirements, for that reason this
project did not go to the Planning Commission initially
because it met all requirements of the Specific Plan, however
noted that if the standards are changed for the area,
depending upon what new standards mayor may not entail, any
change to the project mayor may not require approval before
the Planning Commission. Mayor Brown suggested a vote be
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forthcoming on the moratorium including 328 Main or excluding
328 Main, which requires a four-fifths vote, otherwise the
moratorium will simply expire. Councilman Yost suggested a
vote on just the moratorium extension to assure that it does
not expire.
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After further discussion, the vote on Interim Ordinance 1433,
extending the moratorium and allowing an exemption for 328
Main Street, was:
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane
Boyd, Campbell, Yost
Motion failed
Councilman Yost moved to adopt Interim Ordinance Number 1433
and to include the property located at 328 Main Street.
Councilman Boyd seconded the motion. It was again pointed
out that a four-fifths vote is required.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Yost
Brown, Campbell, Doane
Motion failed
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Councilman Yost said based upon the response of the Director
of concern is that it appears that at some point the parking
floor could be taken before the Coastal Commission for a
change of that use without the requirement of appearing
before a local body for approval, to which he noted that
parking off-street is good but this could be an adverse
precedent, also expressed his feeling that this matter should
have been considered by the Council some time ago. The
Director explained again that as the Code is now written
there is nothing that would require any future modifications
to come back before the City so long as there is compliance
with the Code, also, once the City goes through the
moratorium process and possibly new standards are developed,
not allowing a third story as an example, the building then
becomes legal non-conforming, the building can continue as it
then exists yet it can not be changed unless it were to come
before the City for a change under the non-conforming
provisions of the Code, which requires a conditional use
permit hearing before the Planning Commission, at this point
that is presupposing what a future determination of the
Commission or Council may be, again, assuming some changes to
the Code in the future it mayor may not require some Council
or Commission review if there are changes proposed to this
building, or any other building on Main Street depending upon
what new height standards may be for the Main Street area.
Councilman Boyd said at issue is whether a three story
building can be built on Main Street, the Code now allows it,
the real problem is parking, it is required, the Coastal
Commission will not accept mitigation by means of parking in-
lieu, therefore if the property owner were not required to
provide this number of parking spaces would he be asking for
a three story building with one entire floor dedicated to
that purpose. He indicated his support with those whose
desire is to maintain Seal Beach at twenty-five feet tall,
support also for the business people who are having to abide
by the in-lieu program that does nothing, suggested however
that the business community could have come together to buy
property for parking, as has been done in Belmont Shore,
there are a number of options that could have been addressed.
Doubting that a four-fifths vote can be attained at this
meeting, Mayor Brown suggested adjournment to another date.
To that other members of the Council indicated their desire
to continue deliberation at this meeting.
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To a concern of Councilman Yost with regard to subsequent
review by the City, the City Attorney explained that Section
5 of the ordinance provides that in the event a property is
exempted from the ordinance the Council may place reasonable
conditions on the development, therefore the Council could
require a public hearing before the Planning commission
should there be any change proposed, that as a condition of
the exemption. Councilmember Campbell objected to attempting
to pass something that people do not want because it is
controversial, also to taking action after the fact.
Councilman Boyd offered that the issue of three story
buildings would not be under consideration if it were not for
having to meet the parking requirement, Councilman Yost
disagreed, his concern is with the precedent of a three story
building, increasing the density by fifty percent, Councilman
Boyd countered that there would not be one issue without the
other, voiced support for the moratorium and a Main Street
height of twenty-five feet. It was cautioned that the height
could come back at thirty-five feet. As to the issue of
precedent, Councilman Doane once again stated that the
purpose of the moratorium is to prevent any further three
story buildings, with the moratorium in place no one else,
other than Mr. Griffith, can submit plans for a three story
building.
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Councilman Doane restated his original motion to approve the
Interim Ordinance extending the moratorium and that the
property at 328 Main Street be exempted. It was noted that
should the moratorium expire then a building permit could be
issued for the 328 Main Street property.
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The City Attorney reported that the moratorium established by
Ordinance Number 1432 is due to expire July 9th. He noted
that regardless of what action the Council may take, there
remains a requirement of State law to issue the report before
the Council at the last and present meetings, that required
to be done ten days before the July 9th expiration date. The
Mayor offered that the moratorium issue could be postponed
until the July 9th date. The City Attorney concurred that
the issue could be continued, however if there is not the
required four-fifths vote by the deadline the moratorium will
cease to exist.
Mayor Brown seconded the motion of Councilman Doane.
Councilman Yost requested that the motion be amended to
include a deed restriction to require that any change in the
use of the parking area must come before either the Planning
Commission or City Council for review, this to ensure that
the parking area will never be intensified to more commercial
or a use other than what it is intended. No action was taken
on the amendment.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane
Boyd, Campbell, Yost
Motion failed
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Councilmember Campbell offered that if 328 Main Street is
included under the moratorium, that does not deny that
project, rather, delays it until the three story issue can be
resolved. Councilman Boyd suggested a moratorium of ninety
days. The Director said realistically the process can not be
gone through in ninety days, explained that an ordinance must
have two readings, a thirty day period to take effect, just
that is sixty days after adoption, that allows only thirty
days for public hearings before the Planning Commission and
City Council, some form of environmental analysis as well,
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even a mitigated negative declaration has a twenty day public
comment period. Comment was made that this project has been
in the process for at least a year, could it not wait another
ninety days, another was that under the moratorium he would
not be able to build, another was that if the Council remains
at impasse it will be only a few days before a building
permit can be issued, and if this property is included in the
moratorium and the determination is to not allow three story
projects, the project is finished. Councilman Boyd stated
what is being requested is to revisit the land use intent of
what the community desires are for Main Street, if something
is to be done there should be a means to accomplish
legislation within ninety days. The Director explained again
that pursuant to the laws of the State of California under
which the City must operate there is a public hearing process
mandated before both the Planning Commission and City
Council, two readings of the ordinance, and thirty days
thereafter before it takes effect, that process can not be
done in ninety days, realistically the time frame would be
more like five to six months at minimum. Mayor Brown said he
did not believe that the time frame is of importance, his
understanding is that what is requested is that the Planning
Commission come up with recommendations, the Council would
then vote, that would allow Mr. Griffith to build, that can
not be done at this meeting, so what is going to change in
five or so months with the process, that must be gone
through. Councilman Boyd said the request is for time to
look at the intent of the moratorium so that the Commission
and Council can visit the issue of three stories on Main
Street. The Mayor asked if it is not believed that when the
matter comes back to the Council that it will be no three
story structures on Main Street. If that be the case,
Councilmember Campbell raised the question as to why it would
be allowed now, to that the Mayor responded that Mr. Griffith
has already made application, it is not truly three stories,
there is a parking area in between, a number of reasons, and
to that Councilmember Campbell stated he is not vested.
Supposing that the moratorium is voted upon separately, the
exclusion is then addressed and agreement can not be reached,
Councilmember Campbell asked what happens then. Response was
that by taking no action that essentially makes no change to
the Code, a building permit can then be obtained and is then
vested. The City Manager offered that if there is no
moratorium there are others that are interested in a third
story under this concept, as was heard at a prior meeting, it
is a matter of timing in that anyone would need to design and
develop plans, therefore it may be that review of this issue
could be completed before another gets to the building permit
stage, however that could be a risk. Mayor Brown asked if
those in opposition could make a suggestion to move this item
forward. Councilman Yost asked what is the problem with
putting parking on-site on a second level, of greater concern
to him is the precedent of a third story, however if there is
a deed restriction that states the parking area can never be
residential, commercial, or intensified, what are the
arguments against. Councilmember Campbell cited practicality
and the reality check, this will be a tandem parking
situation with people backing in and out of a limited area,
that is a problem in itself.
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As moved by Councilman Yost, there was a consensus of the
Council to reopen the public hearing to allow comments from
the architect for 328 Main Street.
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Mr. Paul Gyer stated he has been designing projects in Seal
Beach since 1977, his third project on Main Street. He
reported the Coastal Commission requested that a parking
attendant be on duty at all times during business hours,
therefore no one would be backing up one hundred seventy
feet, nor park their vehicle. Councilman Yost asked Mr. Gyer
if this were his building and he wanted to have parking on a I
floor, would his reaction be any different. If her building,
Councilmember Campbell said she would not want to put parking
on a floor, to Mr. Griffith money seems to be no object, from
a business standpoint it seems there would be a better
economic use for the second story, a better way to maximize
ones investment. Mr. Griffith acknowledged that there may be
however under the rules it is impossible, there is not enough
parking to have another use on the second story, the reason
the building is larger is so that there can be some retail
and office space, in practicality parking needs to be on-site
in order to comply with the rules as there is no off-site
parking available. Councilman Boyd inquired if, from a legal
standpoint, parking needs to be on-site. The City Attorney
noted that the Coastal Commission addressed this issue, their
staff report said they allowed off-site parking in the past
with other properties on Main Street however there are no
more spaces available, that according to Coastal staff, the
Commission imposed the parking condition. Councilman Boyd
concluded that the Coastal Commission has put the City in the
position that if Mr. Griffith is not allowed to build and
within the confines of the building provide parking, then
neither he or anyone else can build on Main Street. The
Attorney acknowledged having this problem in the past where
the City has approved projects with in-lieu parking, then the I
Commission says it does not like the in-lieu program.
Councilmember Campbell pointed out that this is the only
empty lot on Main Street, to which she inquired what if
someone has a building that they want to demolish and build
something new, a single story structure as an example, does
that put them in the position of having to deal with the
Coastal Commission, also, if they were to propose a second
story how would the parking be provided. As it is
understood, the Director stated that the in-lieu program of
the City is not acceptable to the Coastal Commission thus
they require parking in accordance with their standards,
which is more stringent than the City, requiring more parking
than the City for the same amount of building space, there
lies the conflict, the local standard is felt to work
throughout the City, Coastal Commission disagrees and
believes it should be greater. The City Attorney pointed out
that the interest of the City is to provide parking for
customers of the businesses and the employees, the Commission
is only concerned with providing access to the beach. With
regard to the question of someone wanting to demolish a
building on Main Street and construct a new one, to meet
Coastal Commission requirements on a twenty-five foot lot one
would see about six to seven hundred square feet of retail I
space on the lower level with parking behind that and if the
proposal were to place additional retail or office use on
another level there would need to be a level of parking, that
results in a smaller building on the property that what
existed, therefore from a realistic standpoint one will not
demolish a two thousand five hundred to three thousand square
foot building to construct a smaller building with a parking
structure because the financing does not work, when dealing
with a raw parcel of land it is a different situation.
Councilmember Campbell posed the scenario of a person wanting
to intensify their building then it would seem that new
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construction would need to be done on the top of the existing
building, to which she asked if that too would be subject to
Coastal Commission regulations. The response was in the
affirmative, the Director explained that the primary reason
that buildings are not being enlarged on Main Street is
because Coastal Commission requirements can not be met. To a
question of Councilmember Campbell it was said that there are
no other vacant lots on Main Street, and reconfirmed that
anyone wishing to intensify their building would need to meet
Coastal requirements as well as those of the City.
On the recommendation of the City Attorney, Boyd moved,
second by Brown, to confirm the issuance of the report
describing the measures which have been taken to alleviate
the condition which led to the adoption of the interim
moratorium ordinance.
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Brown, Campbell, Doane, Yost
None Motion carried
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Subsequent comment was that as far as setting a precedent,
there can not be another like project as this is the last
vacant parcel. Question was posed if any other party has
approached the City for a three story building, to that the
Director reported that inquiry has been made with regard to a
new residential development in conjunction with an existing
commercial building on Main Street, that being a completely
different issue and will not be allowed under current Code.
He said there appears to be an attempt to predict what
current Main Street building owners may want to do with their
building, he would not pretend to understand what each
building owner may want, however could not foresee a number
of them wanting to tear down what is there now to build
something similar to 328 Main, to undertake the cost of
reducing the retail area and leasable building space to
create parking inasmuch as rents are based upon leasable
space, not parking spaces. Councilmember Campbell again
expressed her feeling that there is a much better economic
use than a parking structure, to which the Director confirmed
his prior comment with regard to tearing down an existing
building and reconstructing, she also questioned again long
range future alternative uses. Councilman Yost inquired of
Mr. Griffith if he would take issue with a deed restriction
that would require the parking area to remain as just that.
The response_was no. By unanimous consent of the Council,
the public hearing was again closed.
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Councilman Doane moved to extend the moratorium with an
exclusion for the property located at 328 Main Street subject
to the execution of a deed restriction with regard to the
parking area.
Councilman Boyd stated again that one can not build to thirty
feet on a twenty-five foot residential lot, this is a matter
of principal, said when the Main Street Specific Plan was
adopted that established a thirty foot height limit for the
area, considerable discussion occurred as is evidenced by the
1984 Revitalization Study conducted by the business and
residential communities that there was to be a thirty foot
height limit with a maximum of two stories. The Mayor
pointed out that that was a recommendation of the committee,
never adopted, as may have been the case with other
recommendations. Councilman Boyd said he was going on public
opinion, it is the public that created the Revitalization
Study, it is the public who said thirty feet with a maximum
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of two stories, a five foot height variance was for
architectural features. Question again was why that was
never adopted. The Director of Development Services said he
could not speak for years prior to 1989 as that is when be
began with the City, however subsequent to the Council being
advised of the 1984 recommendation a review of the minutes
from that time period has been done, the only action that the
Council took with regard to the recommendations was an issue
of establishing a Business Improvement District, several
meetings dealt with that topic yet the District was never
implemented, a number of meetings also with regard to the
application of Hennessy's and the in-lieu parking issue, and
during that time frame there is no evidence that other
recommendations of the Task Force received any Council
action. Councilman Yost offered his opinion that the only
way to protect Main Street from three stories in the future
is to exempt 328. Councilmember Campbell suggested that
monies from the in-lieu fund be used to purchase this
property, again asking what, in reality, can be done with
this lot. The Director offered that the proposal under
discussion is what can be done with that lot under current
City and Coastal Commission requirements, the uses on the
property could probably be reconfigured however the same
number of parking spaces would be required, if it were
desired to increase the retail area the office area would
need to be decreased because the parking requirements dictate
the square footage of building area. As to Coastal
Commission parking requirements, the Director said based upon
memory he believed retail is one to two hundred fifty square
feet, the City is one to three hundred square feet, for
office use the City is one for every two hundred fifty square
feet, the Commission is believed to be one for every two
hundred, again, the Commission requires more parking per
square footage than the City, therefore in order to obtain
Coastal approval for this size of lot what is proposed would
be the type of use that would been seen for new construction,
in this case parking requirements are ten spaces. The City
Attorney confirmed the response of the Director, page six of
the Coastal staff report, what is called parking
deficiencies, one parking space for every two hundred fifty
square feet of gross floor area, made reference to page
twelve as to discussion of off-site parking, and confirmed
that the Commission requirements must be met in order to
obtain a Coastal permit. Councilmember Campbell voiced
objection with the Commission imposing these requirements
because of it being a vacant lot, therefore the owner is
either allowed to build this plan or do nothing and it
remains a vacant dirt lot. A member of the audience
suggested a structure of less square footage, revised
placement of parking spaces. Mayor Brown seconded the motion
of Councilman Doane.
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AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane
Boyd, Campbell, Yost
Motion failed
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Councilmember Campbell noted that Mr. Shanks had suggested
revised placement of the parking spaces, the concerns with
the third story, with the feasibility, reality, and
practicality of the lot because of the parking, Coastal
Commission even said that is controversial. The Mayor
pointed out that the project has been submitted and
resubmitted as revised to the Commission several times,
finally met their requirements, at that time had met City
requirements which did not prohibit three story buildings,
even though the applicant may have known the intent, and
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stated once again his desire to approve the moratorium so
that this problem does not resurface and that there are no
future three story buildings. Councilmember Campbell
questioned if a reduction of parking by reduced size of the
building would alleviate the concerns of those opposed to
this structure. Mayor Brown mentioned that the owner needs
to use the property to his best use, the City can not dictate
how to build his property so long as it meets Code, which it
does to some degree in this case, the intent is to not allow
anyone else a third story, that can be accomplished by the
moratorium. Councilman Yost asked if certain members of the
Council would be more comfortable without a moratorium.
Reduction of the size of the building was again mentioned.
The building contractor, Mr. Cox, said even if the floor area
were fifteen hundred square feet the second story parking
would be needed.
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Councilman Yost moved to extend the moratorium and exempt
therefrom the property located at 328 Main Street with a deed
restriction that the areas designated for parking shall
remain only for parking unless considered by a body of the
City, whether that be the Planning Commission or City
Council, should any change be proposed. Mayor Brown seconded
the motion with the understanding of the importance of the
moratorium, however his opposition to the building per se,
adopting Ordinance Number 1433 entitled "AN INTERIM ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH EXTENDING INTERIM ORDINANCE NO.
1432, ESTABLISHING A MORATORIUM ON THE ISSUANCE OF
DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS FOR ANY THREE-STORY COMMERCIAL
STRUCTURE WITHIN THE MAIN STREET SPECIFIC PLAN AREA AND
DECLARING THE URGENCY THEREOF." By unanimous consent, full
reading of Ordinance Number 1433 was waived.
Councilmember Campbell stated her vote is under protest, her
objection is to the third story yet understands that the
property will either be developed as presented or nothing.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Campbell, Doane, Yost
Boyd
Motion carried
The City Attorney clarified that by this action Ordinance
Number 1432 has been extended with no change, stated that
staff will develop a deed restriction to be executed by Mr.
Griffith as a condition of the exemption.
CITY MANAGER REPORTS
No report was provided.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Brown declared Oral Communications open. Ms. Reva
Olson, Seal Beach, said she was certain the citizens did not
know there was a three story provision in the Code for Main
Street, also, the community was led to believe that the in-
lieu parking was legal, the merchants are paying into that,
and according to AB 1600 at the end of five years the money
must be returned, those businesses will be looking for
parking, there is no vacant land for that purpose, and will
they be out of business. Mr. Chi Kredell, Seal Beach,
criticized the handling of 328 Main Street by the City, it
was certainly known to be controversial, and suggested that
no variance should be allowed except in extreme hardship
cases. Ms. Nancy Kredell, Seal Beach, reported that an
elevator ramp exists in an apartment complex on 7th Street
and it is never used. There being no further comments, Mayor
Brown declared Oral Communications closed.
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COUNCIL CONCERNS
Councilman Boyd requested that the subject of the Armed
Forces Reserve Center Fireworks Show be placed on the
upcoming agenda inasmuch as this City has not paid its share
for the past couple of years. The Mayor indicated his
preference that the amount of $5,000 be put towards the
swimming pool, Seal Beach Boulevard, or other worthy projects
rather than fireworks. Councilman Boyd said the request
would be for a retroactive payment, with the condition to
form a steering committee for next year with a contribution
of less money and corporate sponsorship. He requested also
the consideration of an urgency moratorium with regard to in-
lieu parking with the instruction that no new in-lieu parking
be granted pending development of a new in-lieu plan. The
Mayor suggested that could be a matter for discussion at the
next meeting to possibly provide a deadline for closure of
that program. Councilman Boyd explained that he had voted
against the moratorium extension for the reason that he
wanted all properties included. Councilman Yost expressed
his feeling that the subject of discussion at this meeting
was difficult and frustrating, he too did not want three
story buildings on Main Street, that is not consistent with
the area, the Council needs to be made aware of issues, staff
should advise of anything in the future that is foreseen as
potentially controversial, the process itself could withstand
improvement. With regard to the budget, Councilman Yost said
he was encouraged to see a reasonable amount of money
included for improvements to infrastructure and services
which is of benefit to all, it increases property tax,
property value, income to the City, and makes the community a
nicer place to live. As to Hellman, he said that is going
forward, the property owner, developer, and Hellman
representative are making efforts to develop the plan so that
it is approvable, and that he is personally guardedly
optimistic. Upon reviewing the tape of the last meeting, .
Councilman Yost said he was pleased to have seen the Council
following the recommendation of the Planning Commission on
another issue, commended the strength of the Commission and
knowledge of its members, suggesting their dec~sions should
be overturned only when absolutely necessary. Councilmember
Campbell emphasized her desire that in the future the Council
be informed of any issue that might in any way be
controversial. She mentioned the closing time for news items
to the local papers of Tuesday night, requested that the
Council agenda likewise be concluded by then so that they can
be noticed in the papers for information of the public.
Mayor Brown suggested that the topic be discussed with the
City Manager as to practicality. Councilmember Campbell
invited all to the 4th of July celebration in College Park
East.
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced the Council would meet in Closed
Session to discuss the item identified on the agenda, an item
of existing litigation pursuant to Government Code Section
54956.9(a), Bolsa Chica Land Trust et al versus Koll Real
Estate Group. By unanimous consent, the Council adjourned to
Closed Session at 6:48 p.m. and reconvened at 6:52 p.m. with
Mayor Brown calling the meeting to order. The City Attorney
reported the Council had discussed the item previously
identified, directed their attorney, Mr. Bill Seymour, to not
pursue the Bolsa Chic a case any further.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting until Monday, July 13th at 6:30 p.m.
to meet in Closed Session. The meeting was adjourned by
unanimous consent at 6:54 p.m.
Attest:
Mayor
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Approved:
Seal Beach, California
July 13, 1998
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:31 p.m. with Mayor Brown calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Brown
Councilmembers Boyd, Doane, Yost
Absent:
Councilmember Campbell
By unanimous consent, the absence of Councilmember Campbell
was excused.
Councilmember Campbell arrived at approximately 6:40 p.m. and
joined the City Council in Closed Session.
Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Boyd moved, second by Brown, to approve the order of the
agenda as presented.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Boyd, Brown, Doane, Yost
None
Campbell
Motion carried
CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the City Council would meet
in Closed Session to discuss the item identified on the
agenda, a conference with legal counsel with regard to
anticipated litigation pursuant to Government Code Section
54956.9(b). The Council adjourned to Closed Session at 6:33
p.m. and reconvened at 7:10 p.m. with Mayor Brown calling the
meeting to order. The City Attorney reported the Council had