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session be called sometime in the near future to discuss this
request and other related issues. Councilman Yost concurred.
Councilman Boyd pointed out that of seven Orange County
cities he has spoken with all of their City Managers provide
the Council with such report on a weekly basis with a one or
two page summary of activities. councilmember Campbell
deemed the comments made earlier by Ms. Quinlan to be
unfortunate, said she supports Cable Foundation member
Mahrer, the Foundation is in a transition period and it will
be welcomed to put all problems on the table for discussion
and resolution.
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the Council would adjourn to
Closed Session to discuss the items identified on the 6:30
p.m. and the 7:00 p.m. agendas, which is now being
reconvened. The Council adjourned to Closed Session at 9:02
p.m. and reconvened at 10:10 p.m. with Mayor Brown. calling
the meeting to order. The City Attorney reported the Council
had discussed the two items identified on the agenda, with
regard to the second item of anticipated litigation, pursuant
to Government Code Sections 54956.9(b) and (aI, the Council
gave direction to the City Manager, and with respect to the
personnel matter, pursuant to Government Code Section 54957,
the Council gave direction to the City Attorney.
ADJOURNMENT
By unanimous consent, the Council adjourned until August 10th
at 6:30 p.m. to meet in Closed Session if deemed necessary.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 10:11 p.m.
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Approved:
Attest:
Seal Beach, California
August 6, 1998
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in special
session at 4:10 p.m. with Mayor Brown calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
Mayor Brown read the Notice of Special Meeting as follows:
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"George Brown, 1710 Tam O'Shanter Road, 12-H, Seal Beach
Shawn Boyd, 229 - 7th Street, Seal Beach
patricia Campbell, 4433 Ironwood Avenue, Seal Beach
William Doane, 1401 Skokie Road, 83-A, Seal Beach
Paul Yost, 485 Schooner Way, Seal Beach
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NqTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that George Brown as presiding
officer of the City Council of the City of Seal Beach
hereby calls and gives notice of a special meeting of
the Seal Beach City Council to be held on Thursday,
August 6th, 1998 at 4:00 p.m., in the City Council
Chambers, 211 - 8th Street, Seal Beach, California, for
the purpose of:
Considering the call of a Special Municipal
Election of the City of Seal Beach to be held on
November 3rd, 1998, consolidated with the Statewide
General Election to be held on said date, to submit
to the voters of Seal Beach certain amendments to
the Charter of the City, and any and all other
actions required relating to the call and holding
of said Special Municipal Election.
DATED THIS 5th day of August, 1998.
(signed)
George E. Brown, Mayor
City of Seal Beach
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Joanne M. Yeo, City Clerk
City of Seal Beach"
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Brown
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Doane, Yost
Absent:
None
Also present:
Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Doane moved, second by Boyd, to waive the reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the waiver
of reading shall be deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
unless specific request is made at that time for the reading
of such ordinance or resolution.
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AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Brown, Campbell, Doane, Yost
None Motion carried
A member of the audience inquired if the public would have
the opportunity to comment on the items under consideration
prior to the casting of a vote, also pointed out that there
was no provision for oral communications listed on the
agenda.
AGENDA AMENDED
Councilman Boyd moved to amend the agenda to reflect an oral
communications at the end. There was an indication of
consensus by the Council.
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The City Attorney explained that pursuant to the Brown Act
before any action is taken at a special meeting there must be
an opportunity for the public to speak.
CONSIDERATION - SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION - CONSOLIDATION -
NOVEMBER 3, 1998
Councilman Yost inquired as to who can hear this issue, the
Mayor has called the meeting, the item affects him
specifically, does Mayor Brown need to excuse himself, can he
Chair the meeting, can he vote on the item, also, he has
indicated he does not wish to vote on the item. Mayor Brown
said he believed that he could Chair the meeting until the
item is under consideration. To the legal question, the City
Attorney explained that there is no conflict of interest, no
financial interest relating to any of the actions the Council
may take at this meeting, however certain members of the
Council may wish to abstain for personal reasons. As to the
issue of holding two offices, Councilman Yost noted that
another member of the Council holds an office that was
elected by the League of Cities, specifically Councilmember
Campbell as a member of the Airport Land Use Commission, to
which he asked if that would fall under the Charter provision
that is subject of this discussion. The City Attorney noted
that one of the problems with Section 409 of the Charter,
adopted in 1964, is that there is no legislative history, the
question is what did the drafters of that provision intend in
1964, there is only the language of Section 709 which reads
"any elective officer of the City who shall accept or retain
any other elective public office shall be deemed thereby to
have vacated the office under the City government," there is
no insight as to what was meant by 'any other public office,'
it could be viewed broadly, it could mean any public office
where there is an election, however it is believed that most
people would view the language as meaning any election by the
public, there lies the problem with Section 709. He offered
that one could speculate, yet clearly one would not want
councilmembers to be on the Board of Supervisors or in the
State Assembly, that is clear, that an opinion of the
Attorney General was that the positions of councilmember and
member of a local school board was incompatible, however the
Attorney General's opinion does not control court decisions,
and in the case on which the Attorney General gave that
opinion in 1990 the people brought an action against the
councilmember who was on the school board and the Council,
the judge ruled that the councilmember could do both, there
is nothing in the Constitution or State law that says that
one can not do both, it is a case by case analysis of each
position. He noted that a memorandum provided the Council
contains a list of positions found by the Attorney General to
be incompatible, examples are a County' Planning Commissioner
and School Trustee, a City Engineer and School Trustee, a
County Supervisor and School Trustee, a City Council Member
and School District Officer, and Trustee of a Unified School
District and City Council Member. In the case of a school
board, cities and school boards are vying for the same money,
redevelopment funds, school impact fees as examples, both
have the power to exercise eminent domain, therefore there
could be opportunities if a person sat on both boards to have
divided loyalties, an example of that could be that the
school board may wish to condemn a property to build a school
yet the city may wish to build city offices, a clear
incompatibility in that situation. Again, there are no on
point court decisions, and as to the Charter it is unclear
what 'elected public officer' means. with regard to the
League of Cities issue, the City Attorney inquired if the
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position is voted upon by other delegates. Mayor Brown
expressed his opinion that the League position was by means
of election by the Division members, Councilmember Campbell
countered that such positions are considered to be League
appointed, then questioned the Mayor's service as a member of
the Sanitation District. Councilman Doane stated his opinion
that that would not be considered as the public making the
selection, it would be the Mayors or their appointees, his
opinion based upon his serving on several committees through
the selection process, there are certain positions subject to
Mayoral appointment others are through the Selection
Committee of the League Division, which he again claimed is
not a public election process, the key word being 'public.'
The Mayor expressed his viewpoint that the positions on the
Airport Land Use Commission and the Sanitation District as
examples, are elected, Councilmember Campbell disagreed.
Councilman Yost made reference to the terminology 'publicly
elected official,' inquiring if that could be interpreted as
an election before the general public, not an election
amongst elected officials. The City Attorney responded that
that would seem to be the most reasonable interpretation of
the Charter, one of the reasons this issue is before the
Council is because if a group of people were asked what an
elected public office means some would say any form or sub-
district of government is public, even if elected by only
four board members as an example could be deemed as an
election, he would disagree with such interpretation yet that
is how broad the meaning could be.
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As a matter of explanation, Mayor Brown said he had been
approached as to his interest in serving as a trustee of the
Coast Community College District, his initial response was
that he could not as he was serving on the City Council of
Seal Beach, the District did not see a problem, he then
informed the City Attorney that he was thinking of serving as
a trustee, he in turn asked if there were campuses in Seal
Beach, the answer was no, they are located elsewhere in the
County, the City Attorney at that point did not see a
conflict. The Mayor said at that point he made contact with
the union, they could find no problem with serving as a
trustee nor did they see a conflict, then a couple of days
ago Mr. Shanks called his attention to Charter Section 709,
in reading 709 it was clear, if one accepts another public
office you are then off the City Council. His concern is
with clarification of the meaning of 709 to others in the
future, given the upcoming election the thought was to place
709 on the ballot, also other provisions of the Charter that
are in need of cleanup and revision. Mayor Brown said his
intention is, should he be elected to the trusteeship, to
step down from the City Council, what the Charter says
technically does not matter, however in principal, one should
not be on a school board or whatever and also serve on the
City Council. Mayor Brown suggested that the City Council
look at the provisions of the City Charter for things that
are in need of being adjusted, clarified, etc., he cautioned
the entire Council however that this is a Charter City and
that no rights should be given away that currently exist.
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Mayor Brown recommended that no action be taken to place
measures on the ballot for November 3rd and that a review of
the Charter take place at some point in the future when there
is adequate time to do so. Councilman Yost moved the
recommendation of the Mayor.
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Councilmember Campbell said this would be to establish a
Charter review committee, to which the Mayor Brown clarified
that his suggestion had "been a future Charter review, not
necessarily a review committee. Councilman Yost commended
Mayor Brown for his decision, stated his belief that the
lateness of taking such action may pose problems, and
reiterated his motion to accept the recommendation of the I
Mayor to take no action relating to the November 3rd
election. Councilman Doane seconded the motion for
discussion.
Councilman Doane spoke favorably of the wording of Section
709 as proposed, that the 'Charter of the City of Seal Beach
be amended to provide that elective officers' service in more
than one office is controlled by State law'. With regard to
the cost involved for a Special Election, the City Clerk
explained that for the Charter amendments proposed, to be
voted upon citywide, the cost would be approximately $10,000
at minimum. Councilman Doane offered that the Council is in
fact second guessing what the intention was of those who
created the Charter, agreeing with the City Attorney that it
appears to be clear that those persons were specifying that
one not serve on two elected bodies, the technical reading of
709 should be revised at some point but in the least
expensive way. He expressed pride in the fact that Seal
Beach is a Charter City, the Charter is owned by the people
and they deserve to have the chance to make the decisions,
however, he could not support the cost of an election at this
time. Councilman Boyd expressed his opinion that it is the
five persons sitting as the Council that should review the I
Charter, and it should be revised by the year 2000.
Councilmember Campbell spoke favorably of reviewing the
Charter however suggested a more methodical way, the Charter
is a good document however times change and it does need to
be updated, when there are attempts to refine things they
often end up being reactionary, there may be provisions that
need to be added to the document, this may not be the time to
call for a charter review committee, however when that takes
place 709 can be looked at as well, and noted there are a
number of persons in the community who would be well
qualified to do this. It was suggested that such review is
about a two year process, request was made also that in the
future the staff provide a brief one paragraph synopsis as to
an approximation of cost, ramifications of the proposals,
etc. Members of the Council again indicated their non-
support for the expenditure of an approximate $10,000 for an
election at this time, and a suggestion was made that
possibly Charter amendment proposals be held over until the
next local election.
COMMENTS / ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Gordon Shanks, Surf Place, commended the decision of
Mayor Brown. He recalled that the City formed a committee in
the 70's that looked at Charter amendments, this has been I
done in the past and needs to be done again, and noted the
point made by the City Clerk that the next local election
could very well be citywide, yet it would not be in the best
interest to put off a Charter review for any length of time.
Mr. Shanks claimed that the Coast Community College does have
a conflict in that it leases space within the City, some
courses supposedly given in Leisure World and at the Mary
Wilson Library. He noted also that this Junior College
District is the second largest in the State with a budget of
around $136 million, only smaller than the Los Angeles
College District, and it is understood that one of the goals
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of being on the District is to frequent Sacramento to secure
and protect funds as there is always a conflict between the
UC, USC, and Community College Systems for funds, and if
there was a potential for conflict between a local school
district and City Council persons it is certainly believed
that a case could be made that there would be a conflict with
the Community College District whether or not there is a
campus in this City. Mr. Reg Clewley, Catalina Avenue,
acknowledged that the Council motion is to take no action to
place Charter amendments on the upcoming election ballot,
said the citizens are not anxious to spend their tax dollars
on an election, objected to the wording of the proposed
amendments as misleading, they suggest a vote in favor, and
that as worded too much control would be afforded the State.
Dr. Rosenman, Seal Beach, also commended the decision of
Mayor Brown. He said since the position of Community College
Trustee has a stipend attached thereto it would seem to him
that there would be an inherent conflict of interest if
someone is voting to place an amendment on the ballot that
would allow them to hold two offices.
The vote on the motion to take no action to place Charter
amendments on the November 3rd election ballot:
AYES:
NOES:
Boyd, Brown, Campbell, Doane, Yost
None Motion carried
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Ms. Mitzi Morton, Seal Beach, stated she was proud of the
decision of Mayor Brown, that he would be missed as a member
of the Council however he has done the right thing.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 4:44 p.m.
Approved:
Attest:
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Seal Beach, California
August 10, 1998
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:00 p.m. with Mayor Brown calling the meeting to
order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Brown
Councilmembers Boyd, Campbell, Yost