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Seal Beach, California
September 30, 1996
The city Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:30 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling
meeting to order with the Salute-to the Flag.
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ROLL CALL
Present:
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Absent:
Mayor Forsythe
Councilmembers Brown, Campbell, Fulton
Councilmember Hastings
Brown moved, second by Fulton to excuse the absence of
Councilmember Hastings from this meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
Also present: Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Brown moved, second by Fulton, to approve the order of the
agenda as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
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CLOSED SESSION
By unanimous consent, the Council adjourned to Closed Session at
6:31 p.m. to discuss the items identified on the agenda, a
conference with the City's labor negotiator relating to the
Police Officers Association pursuant to Government Code section
54957.6, and a conference with the real property negotiator,
pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.8, relating to terms
of payment for Ruby's Restaurant. The Council reconvened at
7:05 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the meeting to order. The
city Attorney reported the Council had discussed the items
listed on the agenda, gave direction to the city Manager, and no
other action was taken.
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 7:08 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
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Mayor Forsythe
Councilmembers Brown, campbell, Fulton
Absent:
Councilmember Hastings
Brown moved, second by Campbell, to excuse the absence of
Councilmember Hastings from this meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
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Also present: Mr. Till, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, city Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mr. Badum, City Engineer/Director of Public
Works
Chief Stearns, Police Department
Officer Paap, Police Department
Officer Mullins, Police Department
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilman Brown requested that Item "E", the Fire Prevention
Week proclamation, be removed from the Consent Calendar for
separate consideration, Mayor Forsythe asked that Item "N",
relating to the Bolsa Chica project, be removed, and members of
the audience requested that Item "F", a Resolution honoring Fred
Barrera, and Item "G", Ordinance Number 1409, be removed. As a
point of clarification, the City Manager noted that the action
to be taken on Item "L", the award of the contract for street
improvements, would be to approve the specific contract amount
and that any proposed additional work, approximately $100,000,
will be brought back to the Council for consideration at a
future meeting. Brown moved, second by Fulton, to approve the
order of the agenda as revised.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe Fulton
None
Hastings
Motion carried
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Forsythe declared Oral Communications open. Ms. Carla
Watson, Catalina Avenue, announced the commencement of Founders
Day activities early in October to celebrate the city's eighty-
first birthday, a bowling tournament on October 12th, the
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Masquerade Ball and Monster Mash on October 25th, a dance for
middle school students the following Saturday, the festivities
concluding with the parade and 'Day On The Green' on Sunday,
October 27th. Ms. Watson invited the city council, city staff,
and the community to participate in the Founders Day
celebration. Ms. Ann Tuler noted that in 1996 a group of
citizens created a directory of neighborhood services entitled
Neighbors Helping Neighbors, they are now soliciting ads for the
1997 directory, and invited anyone wishing to be included to
contact her. Ms. Tuler presented a gift to each member of the
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Council. Ms. Dorothy Whyte, College Park East, expressed
support for adoption of the daytime curfew ordinance, also
suggested that the Council agenda be displayed on the local
cable channel. with regard to the Bixby property, Ms. Whyte
stated there is concern on the part of many persons with regard
to a possible commercial development of the tennis club site,
cited the importance of recreation facilities and open space, I
and expressed her opinion that placing commercial in the
northerly portion of the City is unfair. She asked that the
Council consider every issue on a city-wide basis, and suggested
that there be a public forum to discuss all options for the
Bixby land. Ms. Whyte questioned who requested that there be a
police ofticer present at the recent forum held by the College
Park East Councilmember. Dr. David Rosenman, 8th street,
scolded those persons who have been distributing unidentified
fliers containing false information, basically with regard to
the Bixby land, and condemned this as an attempt to fragment the
community. Mr. Larry Nemirow, twelve year Daisy street
resident, expressed his concern with current and future
development plans for the Bixby property and with the potential
of Bixby deciding to sell their land, concern al~o that his
Council representative did not discuss this issue at her recent
pUblic forum, no subsequent meeting has been held, and no survey
has been received by College Park East residents. Mr. Nemirow
claimed that time is running out, Bixby may go forward with
development that no one will like, stated the College Park East
election was not a mandate of the type of development that would
take place in that community, it is time for the community to
come together, the citizens demand the right to determine their
future, and asked that the options being discussed for the Bixby
property be outlined for the citizens, including the
ramifications of each option. Mr. Nemirow stated he did not I
favor all commercial, nor did he know how many residents in his
area would, that he also did not want the value of his residence
to go down, possibly a mixed plan would work but details need to
be known, and certainly it should not be felt that Bixby can be
lead along forever without doing something. Mr. Ace Yeam, Fir
Avenue, reported that the committee against a commercial
development distributed fliers to each residence in College Park
East which set forth three potential options for development of
the Bixby property, thus far the choices have been three hundred
twenty-seven for residential and two for the default commercial
plan, and asked that the Council take this information into
consideration at such time as a development plan is considered.
He noted an example of other communities encouraging the
development of residential. Mr. Nicholas Rini, Seal Beach,
expressed appreciation on behalf of himself and a majority of
the citizenry for the manner in which the College Park East
Council representative has handled the development issue for the
Bixby property, first seeking facts and a development proposal
that can then be discussed at a public forum. He noted a prior
plan for the property was pulled when it was determined there
were not sufficient votes to approve it at the Council level,
and now that plan is being brought forward through a vocal
minority and attacks on the Council representative. Mr. Frank
Laszlo, Candleberry Avenue, added his congratulations to I
Councilmember Campbell for doing a good job, despite differences
of opinion in the community. with reference to the recent
Council election in College Park East, Mr. Laszlo stated that
the candidate that supported the residential project was
defeated by a nearly two to one margin, also, the pro-
development group threatened that an undesirable Plan B would be
developed if their candidate did not win, to which he stated
there has never been a Plan B, only Plan A, which had been
submitted to the City, a threat also that Bixby would develop a
commercial project across from the Rossmoor Center and demolish
the tennis courts to accommodate an office building. He noted
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it has been six months since the election, nothing has been
done, and predicted nothing will be done. Mr. Laszlo made
reference to statements made by persons outside of the recent
town hall meeting that Home Club was going to purchase and
develop the Bixby land, that to occur within ten days, and
similar comments with regard to the tennis club property. Mr.
Laszlo recalled that the Bixby development proposal was
submitted to the City sometime last year, the project was
considered and denied by the Environmental Quality Control
Board, the Planning Commission accepted it due to legal
requirements, and as noted by the EIR consultant there were
unmitigatable impacts, traffic congestion, flight noise, school
crowding, smog, water and drainage capacity problems, etc.
therefore the Council would need to determine that there were
overriding considerations in order to approve the project, which
in turn would set a precedent for any other project in the city
regardless of the impacts. He suggested that planning for the
Bixby property be done in a manner similar to the Hellman land.
There being no further comments, Mayor Forsythe declared Oral
Communications closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "A" thru "T"
Campbell moved, second by Brown, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented, except
Items "E, F, G, and N", removed for separate consideration.
A.
Approved the waiver of reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that
consent to the waiver of reading shall be
deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
unless specific request is made at that
time for the reading of such ordinance or
resolution.
B. Approved regular demands numbered 13715
through 13838 in the amount of $1,162,351.61,
payroll demands numbered 18622 through 18860
in the amount of $340,963.85, and authorized
warrants to be drawn on the Treasury for same.
C. Proclaimed October, 1996 as "Escrow Month."
D. Approved the minutes of the september 9th,
1996 regular meeting.
H. Proclaimed October, 1996 as "Domestic
Violence Awareness Month."
I. Held second reading and adopted Ordinance
Number 1410 entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING
CHAPTER 16-B OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH RELATING TO PIPELINE FRANCHISES."
By unanimous consent, full reading of
Ordinance Number 1410 was waived.
J.
Received and filed the staff report relating
to the review of the Draft Environmental Impact
Report - Marine Corps Air Station El Toro
Community Reuse Plan, authorized the Mayor to
sign the response letter thereto, directed staff
to provide additional information as deemed
appropriate, and that this item be forwarded to
the Planning Commission and Environmental Quality
Control Board for information purposes.
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Received and filed the staff report relating
to the review of the Draft Environmental Impact
Report, 1997 Air Quality Management Plan (AQMP),
South Coast Air Quality Management District,
requested that staff monitor the 1997 AQMP
development process, provide additional
information to the Council as deemed appropriate,
and directed that this item be forwarded to the
Planning Commission and Environmental Quality
Control Board for information purposes.
L. Bids were received until September 18, 1996 at
2:00 p.m. for Project Number 673, Citywide
Pavement Resurfacing, at which time they were
publicly opened by the City Clerk as follows:
K.
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R. J. Noble
Ruiz Engineering
Hillcrest Contracting, Inc.
All American Asphalt
Excel Paving Co.
Sully Miller Construction Co.
$ 309,040.00
321,282.00
321,607.40
321,839.00
324,544.00
338,200.00
Awarded the contract for Citywide Pavement
Resurfacing, Project Number 673, to R. J.
Noble Company in the amount of $309,040.00
and authorized the City Manager to execute
same.
Authorized the City Manager to execute the
contract professional services agreements
with Robert Bein, William Frost & Associates,
and W. G. Zimmerman Engineers for construction
inspection and management services as authorized
by the Director of Public Works on a project by
project basis at the approved hourly rates not to
exceed five percent of the final construction
project cost unless specifically authorized by
the City Manager.
o. Approved the proposal for contract professional
services from Integrated Urban Forestry in an
amount not to exceed $7500 for the preparation of
grant applications to the California ReLeaf/National
Urban Forestry Grant Program and the Environmental
Enhancement and Mitigation Program.
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P. Received and filed the status report relating
to the Air Quality Management Plan Application,
Quick Charge Program Proposal, instructed staff
to prepare additional status reports as deemed
appropriate, and that this item be forwarded to
the Environmental Quality Control Board for
information purposes.
Q.
R.
Received and filed the staff report relating to
the Sunset Harbor Maintenance Facility,
California Coastal Commission Report, authorized
the Mayor to sign the response letter thereto,
and directed that this item be forwarded to the
Planning Commission and Environmental Quality
Control Board for information purposes.
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Adopted Resolution Number 4502 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH APPROVING THE SUBMITTAL OF A FUNDING
APPLICATION TO THE ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
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AUTHORITY FOR FUNDING UNDER THE COMBINED
TRANSPORTATION FUNDING PROGRAM." By unanimous
consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4502
was waived.
S.
Denied the claim for damages of Sandra E.
Trepasso.
T.
Received and filed the staff report relating
to the Naval Weapons Station Site 1, Non-Time
Critical Removal Action, Request for
Identification of Applicable and Appropriate
Requirements (ARARS), authorized the Mayor to
sign the response letter thereto, and directed
that this item be provided the Environmental
Quality Control Board and Archaeological
Advisory Committee for information purposes.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "E" - PROCLAMATION - FIRE PREVENTION WEEK
Mayor Forsythe read in full the Proclamation of "Fire Prevention
Week", October 6th through October 12th, 1996. Representatives
of the Orange County Fire Authority accepted the Proclamation
with appreciation, noting the theme for this year is "Test Your
Detectors". Councilman Brown commended the Orange County Fire
Services for achieving their goal for a Labor Day holiday
without a child drowning incident, this accomplished primarily
by public education through the efforts of the Fire Services.
Brown moved, second by Forsythe, to approve the Fire Prevention
Week Proclamation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
ITEM "F" - RESOLUTION NUMBER 4501 - HONORING FRED BARRERA -
CITY OF ORANGE
Mr. Gordon Shanks, Surf Place, questioning the identity of the
honoree, suggested that all commending resolutions be considered
and read separately for information of the public. It was
explained that Mr. Barrera is a retiring twenty-plus year member
of the City of Orange City Council, and Councilman Brown noted
that such resolutions are courtesies between cities. Brown
moved, second by Campbell, to adopt Resolution Number 4501
entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL
BEACH HONORING AND RECOGNIZING MAYOR PROTEM FRED BARRERA FOR HIS
DEDICATED COMMUNITY SERVICE." By unanimous consent, full
reading of Resolution Number 4501 was waived.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
ITEM "G" - ORDINANCE NUMBER 1409 - DAYTIME CURFEW
Mr. David Buffett, 2nd Street, introduced his wife Maryann, and
said it occurred to him that no one would want to stand before
one of the nation's heros and admit that we gave away a freedom
that they gave their life for, those heros would be appalled
that parents do not know whether their children are or are not
in school, by the gang problems, and to relinquish a freedom
would be intolerable. Mr. Buffett stated his feeling that any
curfew is unconstitutional, recalled providing each member of
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the Council a copy of a paper prepared by a group of
constitutional lawyers citing why this curfew is
unconstitutional, asked if it had been read, and said the
tendency is that once a freedom is relinquished another will
follow. Mr. Nicholas Rini, Seal Beach resident and Deputy
District Attorney in a neighboring county, explained that the
Fourth Amendment does not make it illegal to stop someone, I
rather, illegal to make unreasonable stops, that community -
safety is a legitimate concern of law enforcement and is a
legitimate basis for making a stop. He stated that if people
understand what the daytime curfew ordinance is about and what
it is meant to do he could not see how one could disagree, it is
meant to protect the children and the citizens of the community,
to make parents responsible for their children so that the
police department does not need to become involved or bring the
child into the criminal justice system. He said this is another
tool to keep crime out of the City, the police officers are
trained to recognize criminal activity, gangs, etc. and identify
those who come from outside the community, this ordinance
provides the police the ability to stop students that come into
the city that may cause harm to the local children. Mr. Rini
stated that truancy and school drop-outs are a major,
significant issue, and it has been shown that the most
significant correlation to persons in the criminal detention
facilities is the junior high and high school dropouts, also
between truancy and dropouts, as opposed to factors of
economics, residence location, etc., this ordinance aimed at
keeping kids in school. He noted that a police department is
not judged on how many youths they arrest or cite, rather how
safe from violent crime they make the community, also, State
Department of Justice research shows that within ten to fifteen
years violent crime amongst juveniles has and will double. Mr. I
Rini again stated this ordinance provides a means to keep kids
in school, away from crime, makes parents responsible for the
whereabouts of the children, and said the police department will
use the same discretion in its enforcement as it does now. Ms.
Laura Wegter, 4th Street, in listening to the discussion
relating to Bixby she said she did not see it as a sin for
people to have a different opinion from that of their Council
representative or to meet to discuss their views. She stated
the same holds true with the proposed curfew ordinance, so many
people, a majority being Seal Beach residents, spoke before the
Council against the ordinance yet it was approved, not speaking
because of a lack of support for the pOlice department, rather,
they support their families and want to protect the right of
parental permission. Ms. Wegter asked that the ordinance not
receive final approval, or if it is deemed to be necessary,
requested that the right of parental permission be protected.
Mr. Don Smoot, Seal Beach, expressed objection to the ordinance
as written, suggested that Section 15-5.5 could be changed to
read "...the curfew set forth in Section 15-5.4 of this Chapter
shall not apply when the minor is accompanied by, or has written
permission from his parent", explaining that it is his
obligation to raise the child, not the school. Mr. Smoot stated
he felt his rights were being violated by the proposed
ordinance, that alternatives should be looked at, and noted that I
there was a majority of persons, Seal Beach residents, at the
last meeting that spoke against this ordinance. He clarified
that there is nothing against the police department, the desire
is that the police do their job as well as they can, they are
supported, however this proposal is not right, parents should
have the right to say what their children are doing. Mr.
Richard Hauser, Fir Avenue, made reference to the large sums of
money that goes to boards of education, and commented that if he
missed school as a youth a telephone call would be made to his
parents or there would be a visit to the vice-principal, to
which he stated that parents need to be responsible and the
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schools should follow up. He noted that there is no prevention
aspect in the ordinance, police officers are trained to
recognize criminal behavior and they have the right to apprehend
on that basis, however said he did not see this ordinance
resolving the problem. Mr. Gordon Shanks, Surf Place, stated he
did not believe that the ordinance will accomplish what is
desired. From his observation of the schools he felt there is a
fairly alert administration, most likely could name the truants
immediately, concurred that there is a gang problem, more so in
some other cities, however expressed his opinion that this
ordinance is not the answer, it will do little to resolve the
gang problem given the curfew hours of 8:00 a.m. until 2:30
p.m., and further, the real problem is during the summer months.
Mr. Shanks said a law can not be passed to solve every problem,
there should be less rather than more laws, and expressed
resentment to any thought that being opposed to the ordinance is
an expression of being anti police. Mr. Jeff Christ, College
Park West, offered that primarily this ordinance will prevent
children from coming to Seal Beach from the surrounding areas
where such an ordinance is already in effect. He noted that the
daytime curfew is going to go into effect citywide in Los
Angeles, thus far in the areas where it is has been tested
daytime burglaries, etc. have gone down. Mr. Christ spoke for
adoption of the ordinance. Mr. Jim Fresetta, 7671 Alhambra
Drive, Huntington Beach, made reference to the opinion section
of the September 23rd Orange County Register relating to the
skewed priorities of the District Attorney and the belief of the
president of the Orange County City Attorney's that the daytime
curfew is unconstitutional, has not been upheld in a court of
law, to which Mr. Fresetta stated if it is deemed
unconstitutional the fines must be refunded. He claimed that in
1995 the District Attorneys office notified the Orange County
cities that they would no longer prosecute as misdemeanors
crimes commonly referred to as wobblers, the District Attorney
has the discretion as to how those crimes are prosecuted,
examples relate to the purchase, attempt to purchase,
consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors, which prompts him
to question the prosecution of daytime curfew ordinances, also,
if a minor is issued a citation the police officer will then
merely drive away rather than return the child to school, home,
or the police station, thus the anticipated reduction of crime
will likely not be realized. Mr. Rex Wegter, Seal Beach, urged
that there be reconsideration of passing the daytime curfew
ordinance. He asked how children will be identified as local
youth, offered the possibility that he could be stopped and
cited while with his child during school hours unless he had the
proper paperwork, all of which he deemed to be wrong, reminded
that there are places other than a school classroom where
children learn, and if similar ordinances seem to be working in
other communities questioned why those youth are out of school
and coming into Seal Beach.
Mayor Forsythe stated that this ordinance, as written, allows
more discretion and freedom with ones child than current law,
where existing truancy law requires a specific reason to have
ones child out of school, illness, doctor or dental appointment,
funeral, etc., the ordinance proposed deletes reference to the
Education Code and provides that if a child has permission from
the parent or is with the parent that is adequate. Chief
Stearns explained that the "in writing" requirement is in
reference to a guardian or other adult person, a written
instrument is needed when the child is under the care of someone
else, there is no requirement for permission from the school,
and clarified again that the criteria in section 15-5.4 does not
apply when there is compliance with section 15-5.5. The Mayor
emphasized that there is no written permission required when a
child is with the parent. The Chief cited as an example an
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eighteen year old male accompanying a sixteen year old female
during school hours, and in that situation the police officers
would likely verify with a parent their permission to be out of
school, and in the case of a student out of school yet having a
written note, there would be an attempt to contact the parent to
verify the permission, and explained further that the officers
still have discretion under the Education Code therefor even 1-
after seeing a note in the possession of the child they could
return a student to school. To a scenario of a child and parent
walking down Main street, question was posed if the police have
the right to stop the child or the parent, and the response was
that they can be stopped, questioned if the adult is the parent,
if the response is yes, no citation would be issued. As to
verification of a written permission with the parent, question
was raised as to procedure should the parent not be available by
phone, the response was that the option remains to transport the
student back to school under the Education Code or to issue a
citation until such time as the permission is verified, in most
communities the procedure is to transport to school on a first
occurrence, cite on a second. In response to a question from a
soon to graduate high school student who will then be just
seventeen years old and on a college schedule, the Chief
explained that a student identification will suffice. Mr. Dave
Dorrans, Los Alamitos Assistant Principal, suggested also that a
call could be made to the school in the morning to let it be
known that the student will be absent, then the police officers
can call the school for verification when necessary. The Chief
confirmed that that suggestion can be incorporated into tne
police procedures. Councilman Brown said although there are
some mixed emotions regarding this matter it is likely worth a
try, and if it does not work he would be one of the first to
rescind the ordinance. Mayor Forsythe invited parents to report I
any concerns that may arise and if there are problems the
ordinance will be revisited.
with the addition of punctuation to Section 15-5.5 as suggested
by Councilmember Campbell, the City Attorney read Section 15-
5.5, "The curfew set forth in Section 15-5.4 of this Chapter
shall not apply when the minor is accompanied by his or her
parenti or guardian, or other adult person having authorization
in writing, granting care and custody of the minor." It was
clarified that if a situation falls under Section 15-5.5,
Sections 15-5.4 and 15-5.7 do not apply. Mayor Forsythe
explained again that this issue will be reviewed in three
months.
Brown moved, second by Fulton, to adopt Ordinance Number 1409,
as amended, entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, ADDING SECTIONS 15-5.2 THROUGH 15-5.11, INCLUSIVE,
TO CHAPTER 15 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH TO ESTABLISH
A DAYTIME CURFEW FOR MINORS SUBJECT TO COMPULSORY FULL-TIME
EDUCATION, AND RENUMBERING OTHER SECTIONS OF THE SAME CHAPTER."
By unanimous consent, full reading of Ordinance Number 1409 was
waived.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
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ITEM "N" - BOLSA CHICA PROJECT - CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION
With regard to the proposed response letter to the Bolsa Chica
Project, Consistency Determination, Coastal Conservancy Project,
and Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles Master Plan Amendments
for Wetlands Restoration, Mayor Forsythe requested that the last
sentence of the third paragraph be amended to read "Residential
development will be precluded on all but. 42 acres of the Bolsa
Chica Lowland however, the city of Seal Beach still adamantly
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opposes any development of the Bolsa Chica which includes the
Mesa due to the unmitigatable adverse impacts to the surrounding
communities." Brown moved, second by Fulton, to receive and
file the staff report, authorize the Mayor to sign the response
letter, as amended, favoring wetlands restoration of the
Lowlands at Bolsa Chica, and instructed staff to forward this
item to the Planning commission and Environmental Quality
Control Board for information purposes.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL - ZONE TEXT AMENDMENT 96-1 - REAR YARD
SETBACKS - CRESTVIEW/CATALINA/SURF PLACE
Mayor Forsythe declared the public hearing open to consider the
appeal of the Planning Commission denial of Zone Text Amendment
96-1, Rear Yard Setbacks for decks along crestview, Catalina and
Surf Place. The City Clerk certified that notice of the public
hearing had been advertised and mailed as required by law, and
reported no communications received either for or against this
item. The Director of Development Services presented the staff
report and background detail relating to the Planning Commission
consideration and denial of ZTA 96-1 which addresses the ability
of homeowners adjacent to the Hellman land to construct raised
patio decks on the rear portion of their property. He noted
that in 1990 a code enforcement action was commenced on a patio
deck being constructed closer to the rear property line than
current Code allows, which is a ten foot setback, the property
owner at that time then requested a variance to allow the
structure to remain within the ten foot non-permitted area, the
Planning commission recommended denial of the variance, an
appeal was filed upon that denial, the Council denied the
variance as well however requested that there be no code
enforcement until such time as a Zoning Text Amendment could be
considered to revise those Code standards. The options proposed
for consideration of the Commission with regard to ZTA 96-1 were
to allow a raised patio deck structure to extend to the rear
property line, a request of several property owners in the area,
the staff recommendation was to allow a raised patio deck
structure with a six foot setback from the rear property line to
be maintained as an open space area where it adjoins the
boundary of the Hellman land, part of the reasoning for the six
foot setback being that there is an Edison easement that runs
through the rear of those properties, and the third option was
to leave the Code as it presently exists. The Director reported
that the Commission determined to recommend that no changes be
made to current Code, that resulting in an impact on four or
five properties that have constructed some type of a structure
within the ten foot setback area. He explained that the setback
was adopted in 1957 therefore anything constructed since that
time has been done without a permit, there have been no
inspections, and there is no knowledge as to the condition or
safety of the structures. He reviewed the options for Council
consideration to deny the appeal and retain present Code
standards, sustain the appeal of Mr. and Mrs. Gary Myers and
revise the Code to permit decks at an appropriate distance from
the property line, or refer the matter back to the Planning
commission if new information is presented. He directed
attention to a map showing the footprint of each lot and
boundary line between the residential structures and the Hellman
property within the area of discussion. with regard to the
topography of the area he noted there are approximately twenty-
five to thirty lots that have a fairly steep drop-off from the
residential lots into the Gum Grove that either have similar
structures, or, if the Code were changed there would then be a
potential to build something of a raised nature out to the
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property lines. Councilman Brown inquired as to how many of
those residences may have Deen sold and if there was a
requirement of the seller that the discrepancy with the Code
provisions De disclosed. The Director offered that there is
knowledge of the sale of the one property for which the variance
was denied, in that case the potential Duyers did contact the
City, were informed that the deck continued to De an issue under I
consideration, the Duyers signed a document acknowledging their -
awareness that the structure existed illegally and that they
would comply with any ultimate decision DY the City. councilman
Fulton asked if any of the structures go Deyond the Hellman
property line. The Director responded that there may De a few
fences that extend past the boundary Dut not necessarily a
raised structure such as a patio deck Duilt from the house to
the property line, which poses a fire safety issue. To
Councilman Brown's inquiry as to under-structure maintenance
requirements, the Director explained there are no Code
provisions dealing with that issue as the Code does not allow a
structure to be Duilt out to the point where there is an
underneath open area, therefore that issue falls under the
safety requirements of the Fire Department.
Mayor Forsythe invited members of the audience wishing to
address this item to come to the microphone and state their name
and address for the record. Mrs. Terri Myers, appellant,
identified herself and her husDand as the purchasers of 1733
Crestview Avenue, stated they had Deen made aware that there was
a concern with the deck on the property, however told it was
likely nothing would De forthcoming regarding the setback issue
for possiDly a few years, her understanding was that there were
about seven such properties that would have the opportunity to
present their arguments when this issue was considered, however I
the Code Amendment was denied, and her perception of why it was
denied was set forth in the appeal. Mrs. Myers stated they did
not construct the deck, was made aware of the problem, and
apologized for the problems it has caused. She noted that their
property backs to Gum Grove Park and the Hellman land, the deck
is not built to the property line however does not meet the ten
foot setDack either, stated she felt the deck deters soil
erosion of the slope, it was constructed in a manner that saved
the trees on the property however if the deck needs to De
modified the trees will be lost, the neighbors on either side
could be impacted yet have assured that there is no problem, the
deck is well maintained, and to concerns of the Hellmans and
their representative an offer was made to cover the portion of
the under-deck that was felt could become an aesthetic problem,
to cover it would also provide a safety factor. She offered to
do anything to the deck that is felt necessary, whether
structurally or otherwise, however stated her support for the
Zone Text Amendment to allow a structure to be built to the
property line or at least allow the existing decks to remain.
Mr. Gary Myers said there is a large amount of vegetation Dehind
the deck, only aDout one-fourth of it can be seen, it enhances
the looks of this property as well as the neighborhood, to
remove part of it would be an eyesore, to which he stated his
opinion that it should remain as it now exists and has for six I
to seven years. Mr. Gordon Shanks stated his Surf Place
residence is at the westerly end of the subject area, as a
general rule he opposes variances however there are cases where
they are due when the circumstances are different from the
standard. He referred to Seal Beach as basically a flat city
where it may not be viable to have a ten or five foot setback in
the subject area, none of these properties will encroach onto a
backyard neighbor, a number of the residents have planted ground
cover to control erosion, and cited these properties as the only
ones having the opportunity to take advantage of being built on
a bluff, therefore the circumstances are different than the
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standard. Mr. Bill Morris, neighbor of the appellant, expressed
support for the Zone Text Amendment to allow the use of the rear
ten feet of these properties which, in turn, would provide the
ability for the City to control, aesthetically screen, and
maintain the area up to the property line, where it is presently
unusable and unkept. Mr. Reg Clewley, Catalina Avenue, read his
written communication to the Council with regard to his concerns
and comments to such issues as the lack of compliance with
building codes, securing proper permits, arguments in support of
ZTA 96-1 relating to structure safety, protection against
hillside erosion, the need for code enforcement, objection to
exterior staircases without requiring additional parking, etc.
The communication of Mr. Clewley appeared to indicate an
opposition to the appeal. Mr. Dave Bartlett, representing
Hellman properties, stated that the quality of the edge of
property conditions is important to them, the southerly property
boundary of approximately five thousand linear feet, whether it
be with development of the Hellman property or the abutting
properties, of particular concern is privacy, noise, light,
glare, aesthetics, etc., and generally they are not supportive
of the reduced setback yet are trying to be responsive to the
issues that the City is attempting to resolve. He noted that a
letter had been forwarded to the Planning Commission stating
that they are supportive of some type of arrangement that would
appease the property owners that have this existing condition,
yet the Zone Text Amendment may not be the correct vehicle,
rather, a variance process given the few affected properties, to
which they suggested an average ten foot setback with a minimum
of six feet which would allow some articulation of the deck and
some landscaping, thus eliminating massive deck structures to
the six foot line, the intent being that the area be landscaped
and screened so that it would be aesthetically pleasing from
both sides of the property line, with particular attention to
the elimination of clutter from the underside of decks. Mr.
Bartlett concluded that their recommendation still stands. Mr.
James Goodwin, Crestview Avenue, inquired as to the reason for
the setback in the first place, also the correctness of a
comment that a wall could be constructed on the property line
therefore a deck should likewise be allowed to the line. The
Director of Development Services again noted that the setbacks
for the area were changed in 1957, the reasoning for the change
is uncertain, generally setback requirements from property lines
are to prevent the spreading of fire from structure to
structure, for light and ventilation around residential
structures as well, typically cities have different Code
requirements for fences than they do for structures, fences are
allowed to be built on a property line however a city may
regulate the height and design thereof, yet very few cities will
allow structures that have the potential to spread fires to be
built close to a property line. Mr. Goodwin said he had
envisioned, yet questioned, that one could increase their
property area by constructing a wall on the property line, fill
the area with dirt, and then, abiding with the five foot
sideyard and ten foot rear setbacks, build a structure. The
Director responded that the concept of Mr. Goodwin was correct,
and explained that provisions of the Code allow the slope area
to be filled or terraced to the rear property line, it is the
raised structure above grade level that is currently prohibited.
There being no further comments, Mayor Forsythe declared the
public hearing closed.
Councilman Brown inquired if there is another mechanism, such as
a variance, to address the rear setback issue for these few
properties, as had been suggested by Mr. Bartlett, in addition
there should be some type of agreement that the property owner
would maintain a deck underside in a proper, aesthetically
pleasing manner. The city Manager said it was his understanding
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that the variance process had been tried and it failed, also,
that process requires that findings be made. The Director
explained that the initial report to the Planning Commission
proposed construction to within six feet of the setback, which
protects the Edison easement, however to build within the four
foot area would require either a Minor Plan Review or a
Conditional Use Permit which would require public notice to I
properties within one hundred and three hundred feet
respectively, the Planning Commission determined that neither
process was appropriate and that the Code should remain
unchanged. The Manager mentioned that since the Planning
commission had considered the CUP process the Council could
direct staff to prepare an ordinance to implement that process
to deal with this setback issue. Mayor Forsythe noted a concern
that there can not be a blanket policy to deal with this issue
as each property is significantlY different, the CUP would allow
consideration and discretion on a property by property basis.
Brown moved, second by Fulton, to direct staff to prepare an
ordinance setting forth regulations to address the rear setback
issue on a property by property basis.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
The City Attorney recommended that an action be taken relating
to the appeal under consideration. Mayor Forsythe noted that
her concern is not merely with this subject property as there
are others that encroach into the Gum Grove, her personal
opinion being that they are hurting no one, her preference would
be that landscaping and decks not be required to be torn out as I
long as they are not obtrusive, unsightly, or affect another's
property values or views. The city Attorney explained that the
appeal is not site specific, the direction of the Council is
that an ordinance be drafted, and if adopted each property
having decks, etc. that fall under the setback ordinance will
need to be heard before the Planning Commission either as a
Minor Plan Review or a Conditional Use permit, and confirmed
that the alternative would be removal under current Code.
Brown moved, second by Fulton, to defer taking an action on the
appeal until such time as a draft ordinance is prepared and
considered by the city Council.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
PUBLIC HEARING - APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS - POLICE SERVICES -
AB 3229
Mayor Forsythe declared the public hearing open to consider the
appropriation of funds for police services as provided by AB
3229. The City Clerk certified that notice of the public
hearing had been advertised as required by law, and reported no
communications received either for or against this item. The I
City Manager presented the staff report relating to $61,315 to
be forthcoming from the State General Fund under Assembly Bill
3229 which stipulates that the funds must be used for front line
municipal police services, requires that a special fund be
established for those monies, also that the Police Chief and
City Manager establish proposed uses for the funds and
considered under public hearing. Chief Stearns explained that
the items proposed to be funded are four mobile data computers
for marked police vehicles, $7,500 each, a portable field
command post for the trunk of the supervisors car, $800, and a
four-wheel drive, marked black and white, utility vehicle,
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$28,000. There being no comments from the audience, Mayor
Forsythe declared the public hearing closed.
Fulton moved, second by Brown, to approve the request of the
Chief of Police to purchase any combination of the prioritized
items presented, as determined by the Chief and the City
Manager.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Brown, Campbell, Forsythe, Fulton
None
Hastings Motion carried
CITY MANAGER REPORTS
The City Manager reported having attended a recent meeting of
the Orange County Business Council which afforded the
opportunity to meet some of the department directors of Rockwell
International, soon to be Boeing employees, the future of the
aerospace industry and impacts on Orange County being one of
several discussion items. Of particular interest to Seal Beach
is that upon conclusion of the sale, the Rockwell headquarters
will become the North American Division headquarters for Boeing,
and immediate plans are to enhance and expand the Boeing
aerospace operations. The Manager announced the conclusion of
the Parks and Recreation/Community Services Director recruitment
and the selection of Ms. Nancy Beard for the position,
commencing October 21st. He noted her current position as
Deputy Director for the City of Riverside, previously affiliated
with the city of Newport Beach. To the previous Council
approved petition to the Local Agency Formation Commission for
the detachment of the Rossmoor wall, he reported the receipt of
a letter from LAFCO staff requesting additional documentation
such as legal description of the property, property tax monies
to be transferred between the County and the cities of Los
Alamitos and Seal Beach, spheres of influence, services to the
unincorporated territory, etc., to which he reported having
advised the Assistant Director of LAFCO that the request was
considered to be unreasonable for this nine hundred fifty square
feet of land. He noted that the issue of the wall will appear
on the Rossmoor Community Services District ballot in November
and if approved the request may become mute. Councilman Brown
offered to mention this concern to LAFCO representatives that he
meets with monthly. The Manager noted there had been some
concern with the city's practice of keeping a substantial amount
of monies on deposit in the checking account at a local bank, a
non-interest bearing account, to meet payroll and warrants twice
monthly. He said he wished to clarify that while, in the
strictest sense, there is not an interest earnings there is an.
earnings allowance in that the cost of the various services
provided to the city is approximately $2,700 monthly, therefore
by maintaining a certain amount in the account the earnings
allowance is applied towards those costs without the City having
to make a payment back to the bank. He noted also that it has
been found that the bank offers another corporate program where
costs could possibly be reduced by $400 to $500 per month, which
will be looked at.
COUNCIL CONCERNS
In reference to the daytime curfew discussion, Councilman Fulton
said for a student to write their own excuses to school has not
been all that uncommon in the past. with regard to flooding
during severe storms, Councilman Brown announced that the Board
of Supervisors have authorized monies to rework the pumps at
Seal Beach Boulevard and Electric to increase the capacity by at
least twenty-five percent, hopefully by the end of this year,
also, it is hoped a meeting can be arranged with the residents
and City staff in the near future to review procedures in the
event of flooding. Chief Stearns announced that one of the
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City's Senior volunteers, Ed Raichel, expired last Friday at the
Rossmoor Community Services site. On behalf of the City, the
Chief extended condolences to the Raichel family and
appreciation for allowing him to share his talents. councilman
Fulton commended the recent dedication of the Rossmoor Community
Services Center.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communications.
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ADJOURNMENT
By unanimous consent, the Council directed that the October 14th
regular meeting be canceled and adjourned to October 28th at
6:30 p.m. to meet in Closed session if deemed necessary. It was
the order of the Chair, with consent of the council, to adjourn
the meeting at 9:30 p.m.
Approved:
Attest:
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Seal Beach, California
October 14,' 1996
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach did, at their regular
meeting of September 30th, 1996, direct that the regular meeting
of October 14th, 1996 be canceled due to a conflict with the
League of California cities Annual Conference. The October 14th
meeting was canceled and adjourned until Monday, October 28th,
1996 at 6:30 p.m. to meet in Closed session ,if deemed necessary.
Seal Beach, California
October 28, 1996
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The city council of the city of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:30 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.