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Seal Beach, California
May 3, 1993
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 7:03 p.m. with the Planning Commission and
Environmental Quality Control Board. Mayor Forsythe called the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Forsythe
Councilmembers Brown, Doane, Hastings, Laszlo
Absent:
None
Plannina
Present:
commission:
Chairman Fife (arrived at 7:20 p.m.)
Commissioners Dahlman, Law, Sharp, Soukup
Absent:
None
Environmental
Present:
Oualitv Control Board:
Chairman Voce
Boardmember Hotchkiss
Absent:
Boardmembers Hood, Hurley, Logan
Mayor Forsythe stated the purpose of the joint workshop was to
seek input as to problems and/or suggested solutions to parking
concerns in the downtown area. She noted that recent and prior
information/studies relating to parking were available for public
review. Staff advised that two hundred fifty notices of the
workshop had been mailed, the list of Main Street property owners
obtained by means of the most recent assessors parcel roll. The
Mayor invited those present to express their views.
Comments to the downtown parking issue, in general, were:
Parking impacts to 8th and 10th Streets occur after 5:00
p.m., weekends, and throughout the summer. An
alternative parking area for restaurant/bar traffic would
be helpful.
* Parking and noise impacts on residents of Central Avenue
should also be given consideration. Impact is the
greatest from Friday through Sunday, 5:00 p.m. until
2:00 a.m.; there should be additional signs and police
enforcement to ensure use of off-street parking areas.
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* Parking problem perceived to be no more than any other
beach community.
* There were no such impacts from parking or noise twenty
years ago.
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The overflow from Main street and beachgoers impacts all
downtown streets on weekends and during the summer.
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* The impact of Tuesday night activities at some
establishments have brought forth complaints.
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Parking is a problem on all downtown
people do not park in their garages.
Pasadena prohibits nighttime parking
parking sticker.
streets because
The City of
without a local
* Main street businesses and the residential community
must learn to co-exist. Parking'study suggested use of
beach lots for nighttime parking, yet residents must
use their garages for vehicle parking, not for storage.
* A rental may provide parking for one vehicle per unit,
however as most often occurs, the occupants of the unit
have two cars, therefore one must then utilize street
parking. It is also not uncommon that certain vehicles
can not access a garage as it exists.
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None of the garages of an apartment complex backing to
7th street alley are used for vehicle'parking, and
resolution of the parking issue shOUld start with garage
use.
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Employees of Main street businesses generally utilize the
parking lots, most businesses purchase annual permits for
off-site, lot parking for employees.
* Question was raised as to the hours that parking is
permitted in the lots by means of a parking permit.
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* After 5:00 or 6:00 p.m. the 8th/Central lot is full and
there is no enforcement.
* Evening utilization of the parking areas behind businesses
on the east side of Main street was mentioned.
* Directional signage to parking areas in lieu of Main
street was suggested, the beach lots as an example.
* Signs within the local businesses directing patrons to
'parking at the rear' was mentioned.
* Prior recommendations have included a parking structure
located at the 8th/Central lot, restriping of the
streets, including portions of Electric Avenue.
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An easement behind the alleys was offered for consideration.
Reduction of Main Street parking to one hour with an
incentive program for use of the beach lots was suggested, a
free entry, pay exit program.
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* Abuse of the two hour parking on Main street by beachgoers
was mentioned.
* It was noted that there is presently two twenty-four
minute parking spaces adjacent to the mid-street cross
walks.
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* Support for a merchant validation program in conjunction
with use of the beach lots was indicated.
* Question was raised as to the position of the Coastal
Commission with regard to extended use of the beach lots.
Question was posed as to whether parking is a perceived or
real problem; claimed there is a schism between the
residents and business community as a result of a small
citizens group; the business community has never been
healthier, yet can not survive on summer traffic only.
Suggestion was made that patrons of Main Street stores seek
parking behind those locations. Parking was cited as a
problem at the Mary Wilson Library given the small area and
inadequate spaces, thus an impact on residential streets;
likewise the parking issue may resolve itself with the
replacement of multi-residential with single family units.
* The in-lieu parking program was claimed to be the problem.
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* Recommendation was made that the in-lieu fees be looked
at for increase; also expert assistance will be necessary
to resolve the in-lieu issue.
* The goal is to implement short term solutions, then proceed
towards a long term resolution.
It was claimed that there are no in-lieu parking spaces by
any formula, as there is no in-lieu program in the eyes of
the Coastal Commission. with regard to intensification of
use on Main Street, statement was made that no matter what
is approved at the City level it will not be approved by the
Coastal Commission unless some parking is provided. It was
acknowledged that twenty-three spaces in the beach lot were
created for the Hennessy's location through restriping,
approved by the Coastal Commission.
* Implementation of some type of people mover from the beach
lots to various shopping areas in the city had been
indicated as a positive step by the Coastal Commission.
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* A two story parking structure at the 8th/Central lot could
be offensive to some adjacent residents, yet a sub-structure
could be considered.
* Looking five to ten years in the future, a stacked parking
structure should be the goal; garage use should be
encouraged with incentives rather than punishment.
* Reference was made to a parking structure in the city of
Laguna, a clean-line structure with dual access.
* It was mentioned that quite often on-street areas that
could accommodate four cars, as an example, are occupied
by only three.
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Suggestion was made that streets near Main Street could
be striped for diagonal parking on the travel side least
used with parallel parking on the other side; also
compromise is necessary from all concerned to resolve
this issue.
* Objection was raised to noise resulting from car doors
being slammed in late night hours.
* Support was indicated for diagonal parking, possibly
a 40 or 60 degree angle on the streets where it could
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be accommodated, from which an excess of a hundred
spaces could be realized. Support was likewise indicated
for an increase of the in-lieu fee; identification of a
location for a parking structure; and construction of such
structure accomplished by means of bonding was mentioned.
A second city was mentioned that does not allow street
parking after 7:00 p.m. without resident permit, and
allowance for only a specified number of guest passes.
* It was alleged that it appears the intent is to revert
thirty years backward; restaurant establishments are an
asset; parking is reflective of any beach town.
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* One perception was that there is not a parking problem
but a parking shortage, which is typical of a beach
community; instead of the notion that business is
creating the parking problem it is more likely that
parking is impacting business, that problem likely
to continue. If one returns home after working hours
one must search for parking if there are inadequate
on-site spaces, yet if one returns home at 1:00 a.m. Main
Street is not the problem. The lack of adequate funds to
develop a parking structure was cited, as well as a
potential conflict between the generation of sales tax
and parking.
Claim was made that all studies relating to parking since
the 1960's have reached the same conclusions; the Council
and Planning Commission should review each option from an
economic standpoint, then present the findings to the public
as to whether or not they are feasible and affordable.
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Support was indicated for diagonally striped spaces,
night street parking by permit only, decking of the
8th/Central lot, and retention of two hour Main Street
parking. Question was raised as to whether people would
utilize beach lot parking and walk to the restaurants.
* Preference was noted for additional 20 minute spaces
and the reduction of street parking from two to one hour.
* Anticipating upcoming applications for Main Street
businesses, it was suggested that the environment and
quality of life be considered first.
* A suggestion was made that the merchants be the ones to
pose solutions to the parking situation; possibly the
rear of the stores could be cleared to provide additional
area for parking space(s), with a posted time limit.
* It was noted that the vacant area on the east side of
Main in the 300 block is for Chevron employee parking,
yet sometimes accommodates other vehicles.
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It was reported that a survey of the 100 block of the
8th Street alley during the dinner hour, prior to
this workshop, revealed forty empty parking spaces,
some were posted for no parking, twenty-four hours
per day, yet the particular business was closed.
It was suggested that the businesses must cooperate
with the City and other businesses after regular business
hours to free the use of parking spaces as an alternative
to parking on adjacent residential streets. Support was
indicated for resident permits for street parking during
nighttime hours, however as a beach community, parking
will likely always be a problem.
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* Mention was made that parkinq on Main street appears to
have worsened over the past two years yet residential
population has decreased; a request also for improved
safety for bicyclists on Main street.
with reqard to a qreater number of persons frequentinq
the community, the increase of population nationally
over recent years was pointed out.
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Another comment acknowledqed that Main street is busier
than in years past, yet restaurants, such as Walts Wharf,
not only create activity in the down town area, they
promote the retail community.
* It was suqqested that retail businesses extend their
hours to coincide with the restaurants, qivinq the
opportunity for increased profit.
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* Once aqain there was mention that there must be a
cooperative effort by both residents and merchants;
suqqested that attractive, liqhted window displays could
be an incentive for persons awaitinq a restaurant seat to
revisit a business if it does not choose to stay open
later; fences and walls could be allowed to be built
hiqher as a deterrent to noise.
* Consideration should be qiven to a senior citizen rate
for the beach parkinq lots.
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Question was raised as to liability should a business
choose to make their on-site parkinq available to another
business after daytime hours.
Any chanqe of use of a Main street property poses problems,
especially where there is an intensified use; potential for
concern with the use of the beach lots after 10:00 p.m.
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* Density of Main street is a problem; impacts from
surroundinq development; need to provide safety for
bicyclists; implement short term parkinq improvements,
plan for lonq term resolution.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to
declare a recess at 8:30 p.m. The Council reconvened at 8:41
p.m. with Mayor Forsythe callinq the meetinq to order.
* Invitation was offered for anyone who may have a problem
with the Council implementinq any of the various solutions
offered to let it be known at this time.
* Preparation of an environmental impact report for the
entire Main street area, rather than for individual
businesses, was suqqested; preference for a lonq term
commitment rather than a short term fix.
Noted that approximately two hundred parkinq permits for
business employees are issued annually at a cost of $40
each, allowinq parkinq in any of the city lots.
* Suqqested that staff develop quidelines for the use of
parkinq stickers.
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* Noted that a Main Street property with qrandfathered
parkinq loses the riqht to operate a like business
after a periOd of ninety days; the ninety day period is
too short and has the potential to impact a number of Main
street businesses; all properties, whether commercial or
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residential, should be required to pay a fee for each
parking space that is lacking, such fees placed in a fund
for a long term solution; a long range plan for Main street
should be developed in order to identify what is desired for
the area in future years.
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Grandfathered parking should no longer be allowed;
concurrence that all persons that have a shortage of
parking should be required to pay a fee.
* Assessment of a fee for each parking space lacking
could drive low volume businesses from Main street and
encourage those of high volume.
Mayor Forsythe expressed appreciation for the attendance and
comments from all persons present at the workshop, and advised
that the suggestions will be evaluated for implementation short
and long term.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to
adjourn the city Council session to Monday, May 10th at 6:00 p.m.
to meet in Closed Session.
By unanimous consent of the City Council, Planning Commission,
and Environmental Quality Control Board, the meeting was
adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
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Attest:
Seal Beach, California
May 10, 1993
The regular adjourned City Council session scheduled for 6:00
p.m. this date was cancelled as a result of the lack of Closed
Session items for discussion.
ED THIS~ day.
J nne M. Yeo, cit
ity of Seal Beach
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