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available for beach sand if there were not so many street repair
projects in College Park East.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communications.
CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of
adjourn the meeting until Monday, August 23rd,
to meet in Closed Session.
the Council, to
1993 at 6:00 p.m.
The meeting was adjourned by unanimous consent at 7:40 p.m.
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Seal Beach, California
August 23, 1993
The city Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:00 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Forsythe
Councilmembers Brown, Doane, Hastings, Laszlo
Absent: None
Also present: Mr. Bankston, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, city Clerk
CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the City Council would meet in I
Closed Session pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9(a) to
discuss the matter of Sweet versus City of Seal Beach, pursuant
to section 54956.9(b) discuss matters where, in the opinion of
the City Attorney, there is significant exposure to a threat of
litigation, and time permitting provide a status report relating
to the Mola and Stark cases. It was the order of the Chair, with
consent of the Council, to adjourn to Closed Session at 6:02 p.m.
The Council reconvened at 6:37 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling
the meeting to order. The city Attorney reported the Council had
discussed the matters previously announced.
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ADJOURNMENT
Brown moved,
p.m.
second by Laszlo, to adjourn the meeting at 6:40
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None Motion carried
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Attest:
Seal Beach, California
August 23, 1993
The city Council of the City of Seal Beach met in reqular session
at 7:48 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the meeting to order
with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Forsythe
Counci1members Brown, Doane, Hastings, Laszlo
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Bankston, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, city Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Hastings moved, second by Doane, to waive the reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the waiver of
reading shall be deemed to be given by all Councilmembers after
reading of the title unless specific request is made at that time
for the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None Motion carried
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Forsythe declared Oral Communications open. Mr. Joseph
New, 4856 Fir Avenue, directed his comments to recent news
articles relating to the resignation/removal of Mr. Fife as a
member of the Planning Commission, which he claimed to be
inappropriate. Mr. New spoke of Mr. Fife's integrity, knowledge
and leadership, the efforts of the Commission in developing codes
and ordinances to serve as a quide to assure that businesses and
residences alike are developed in a uniform, fair and equitable
manner. He questioned the application of the conflict of
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interest laws in this case, claiming that the majority of a
future proposed development in the vicinity of College Park East
will be further than three hundred feet from the residence of Mr.
Fife. Mr. New inquired if alternate Commission members had been
given consideration where a conflict of interest may exist, and
recommended that Mr. Fife be kept on the Commission to complete
the remainder of his term. There being no further comments,
Mayor Forsythe declared Oral Communications closed.
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PRESENTATION
Ms. Tina stevenson, member of the Marina Park Improvement
Committee, expressed appreciation to those who served on the
Committee as well as Mr. Eagle and members of the Recreation
Department. She presented the recommendations of the Committee
and noted the improvements are to be funded by Quimby monies and
donations from various local organizations, donations thus far
received from the Junior Womens Club, the Womens Club Craft
Division, the Lions Club, and the Seal Beach Playgroup. She
reported that adequate funds are now available to purchase new
playground equipment, replace the Marina Center entrance doors
and patio slider, construct a dumpster enclosure as well as a
concrete border. Ms. Stevenson advised of the Committee
recommendation that remaining funds be held in reserve to cover
any unforeseen eventualities, and should funds remain at the
conclusion of the project that consideration be given to
landscaping Marina Park, a drinking fountain, a fence/wall along
Marina Drive, new heating ducts and a new heater unit for the
Center. Mr. Bob Eagle described in some detail the choice of
Columbia Cascade multiple unit playground equipment, wood, steel
and plastic construction, as well as the research that lead to
the selection of that manufacturer. He noted that the equipment
will be accessible to and meet the needs of handicapped youth,
and the approach to the equipment will be constructed of recycled
rubber tiles. Ms. Stevenson pointed out that the equipment was
custom designed for the community, incorporating community goals
and desires, meets the needs for physically challenged children,
and will offer stimulating activities for children ages two
through twelve. Ms. Erin Fekjar presented slides depicting the
various functions of the playground equipment. Mayor Forsythe
thanked the Committee for their efforts towards improvements to
Marina Park.
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COUNCIL ITEMS
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES - ANNUAL CONFERENCE - VOTING DELEGATE
At the conclusion of discussion, Brown moved, second by Hastings,
to designate Mayor ProTem Doane as the voting delegate for the
Annual League of California Cities Conference to be held October
16th through October 19th, 1993, and Councilman Laszlo as the
alternate voting delegate.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None Motion carried
APPOINTMENTS - BOARDS and COMMISSIONS
Parks and Recreation Commission
Mayor Forsythe appointed Ms. Carla Watson as the District Three
representative to the Parks and Recreation Commission for the
unexpired term ending July, 1994.
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Beach Commission
Councilmember Hastings appointed Mr. Tom Quinn as the District
One representative to the Beach Commission for the unexpired term
ending July, 1994.
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Laszlo moved, second by Hastings, to confirm the appointments as
stated.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None Motion carried
OLD TOWN CRIME
Councilmember Hastings mentioned a recent news article reporting
two armed robbery attempts in the downtown area, to which she
inquired as to the status of a police substation and the reserve
police officer program. The city Manager reported that staff is
looking at the feasibility of utilizing some portion of the
Lifeguard Tower for a substation, noted that $10,000 had been
designated for design purposes in the 1993/94 budget and should
funds become available for a substation it would be necessary to
amend the budget later in the year. He noted that names are
being accepted for reserve officers at this time, contact has
also been made with some police academies to solicit graduate
students that may be willing to assume a reserve officer status,
which would expedite additional downtown patrols. The Manager
acknowledged that robbery crimes have increased significantly
over the prior year. Councilmember Hastings encouraged citizen
caution pending realization of a substation and additional
patrols. The Mayor mentioned a recent newspaper rating of the
twelve most family oriented communities, and as opposed to just a
few years ago when Seal Beach was rated first, it received no
mention. She suggested that safety of the public is a goal that
the Council needs to address.
CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "E" thru "0" - "P. R. Sand T"
The subject matter of Consent Calendar items "E" through "0" were
read for information of the public. Staff requested, with
consent of the Council, to include on the Consent Calendar, Item
"P", the continuation until September 13th, 1993 of the public
hearing to consider the appeal of Planning Commission denial of
CUP 93-10 (Fit stop), Item "R", the continuation until September
27th, 1993 of the public hearing to consider the appeal of
Planning Commission approval of modification of conditions for
CUP 92-12 (Seaside Grill), Item "S", Resolution Number 4251,
ground lease agreement with Los Angeles Cellular Telephone
Company, and Item "T", the Request for Proposals for a Main
Street Specific Plan and Environmental Documentation.
Given her absence from the August 9th meeting, Mayor Forsythe
requested that Item "E" be removed from the Consent Calendar for
separate action.
ITEM "E" - MINUTES
Brown moved, second by Hastings, to approve the minutes of the
August 9th, 1993 meeting as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Brown, Doane, Hastings, Laszlo
None
Forsythe
Motion carried
Brown moved, second by Doane, to approve the recommended action
for Consent Calendar Items "F" through "0" and additional Items
IIp, R, Sand T" as presented. The city Attorney advised the
Council of minor changes to Item "S", the ground lease,
incorporation of todays date, lease commencement date of
September 1st, and designation of the appropriate address of L.
A. Cellular for noticing purposes. He also advised that no
additional notice will be given for the two continued appeal
public hearings.
F. Approved regular demands numbered 2847
through 3057 in the amount of $837,529.09
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and payroll demands numbered 2807 through
3269 in the amount of $627,284.30 as
approved by the Finance Committee, and
authorized warrants to be drawn on the
Treasury for same.
Received and filed the Monthly Investment
Report as of July 31, 1993.
H. Ordinance Number 1373 received second
reading and was adopted entitled "AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING ZONE CHANGE 93-1,
CHANGING THE ZONING FROM COMMERCiAL PARK
(C-P) TO SERVICE COMMERCIAL (C-l) AT 16
MARINA DRIVE" (Grotemat property). By
unanimous consent, full reading of
Ordinance Number 1373 was waived.
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I. Ordinance Number 1374 was introduced for
first reading entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA,
REGARDING ADJUSTMENT OF THE PER-BARREL
TAX ON OIL, GAS, PETROLEUM OR OTHER
HYDROCARBON SUBSTANCE PRODUCTION AND
AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SEAL
BEACH." By unanimous consent, full
reading of Ordinance Number 1374 was
waived.
J.
Received and filed the status report
regarding the proposed 1993 Regional
Comprehensive Plan (RCP) of the Southern
California Association of Governments,
and instructed staff to forward same to
the Planning Commission and Environmental
Quality Control Board for information
purposes.
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K. Authorized the Mayor to sign a response
letter to the Chairman and members of the
Assembly Local Government Committee
relating to Senate Bill 1234, Government
Financing and Redevelopment Reform (Bergeson
and Isenberg), and received and filed the
staff status report.
L. Authorized staff to execute an agreement
with Collectech Systems, Inc. to increase
collection of delinquent accounts receivable
of individuals who damage city property, etc.
M. Authorized staff to proceed with disposal of
a 1986 Toyota Pick-up Vehicle, Identification
Number JT4RN50R4G0153017.
N.
Proclaimed the month of October, 1993 as
"Escrow Month."
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O. Adopted Resolution Number 4251 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED
AS TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT
#619 - ADDITION/REMODEL AT THE NORTH SEAL
BEACH COMMUNITY CENTER." By unanimous consent,
full reading of Resolution Number 4251 was
waived.
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P. Continued the public hearing to consider the
appeal of Planning Commission denial of
CUP 93-10, a request for an alcohol-related
land use entitlement (on. premise beer and
wine) 12235 Seal Beach Boulevard (Fit stop)
until Monday, September 13th, 1993.
continued the public hearing to consider the
appeal of Planning Commission approval
of modifications of conditions for CUP-92-12,
a request for an extension of hours in
conjunction with an existing restaurant, 101
Main Street, Suite 0 (Seaside Grill) until
Monday, September 27th, 1993.
R.
S. Adopted Resolution Number 4252 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT WITH LOS ANGELES
CELLULAR TELEPHONE COMPANY AND AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SUCH LEASE ON
THE CITY's BEHALF." By unanimous consent,
full reading of Resolution Number 4252 was
waived.
T.
Approved the "Request for Proposal - Main
Street Specific Plan and Environmental
Documentation" and authorized staff to
circulate same, also established a
consultant interview panel consisting of
the city Council, Planning Commission and
Environmental Quality Control Board members
of District's One and Three to conduct
interviews on Monday, October 4th, 1993.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None Motion carried
PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL - HEIGHT VARIATION 93-1/CONDITIONS OF
APPROVAL - VARIANCE 93-3 - AMORTIZATION PERIOD - 1305 SANDPIPER
DRIVE - THOMPSON
Mayor Forsythe declared the public hearing open to consider an
appeal of Planning Commission approval of Height Variation 93-1
with associated Conditions of Approval for a property located at
1305 Sandpiper Drive. The City Clerk certified that notice of
the public hearing had been advertised and mailed as required by
law, reported receipt of communications from Mark and Elizabeth
Thompson and Mr. Mario Rossi in support of the appeal,
communications from Dr. Arthur Axelrad, Mr. Alan ShieldS, and Mr.
Jerry Andersen in opposition to the appeal. In addition,
communications submitted during this meeting from Mr. Larry
Nemirow in support of the appeal and Mr. E. T. Topping in
opposition. The Director of Development Services reported the
Planning Commission had conducted a public hearing on April 7th
and 21st regarding the subject height variation, variance, and
determination of amortization period which is the subject of this
appeal. He noted that copies of written communications submitted
to the Planning Commission have been provided the Council as well
as a petition initially submitted in 1990, resubmitted for the
recent Commission hearing which related to whether covered roof
access structures should be allowed on the Hill. The Director
stated that at the conclusion of the public hearing the Planning
commission made three determinations: 1) to approve the requested
height variation subject to certain conditions - that the
existing observadome be removed from the structure and that a
roofing material and style to match that of the house would be
required to replace the observadome; 2) denied the variance
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request because they felt findings could not be made as required
by state law and City Code regarding the uniqueness of this
property or special circumstances that did not exist on other
Hill properties; and 3) determined to give the applicant sixty
days from the time a final action is taken on the application to
require the removal of the existing observadome and replace same
with another structure that would more closely conform to the I
style of the existing residence. He reviewed the options of the
Council to either: 1) grant the appeal of the applicant, allowing
the structure to remain as it exists; 2) sustain the
recommendation of the Planning Commission, requiring removal of
the structure within sixty days of Council adoption of a
Resolution; or 3) consider alternatives proposed by the applicant
- allow the structure to remain as is, but paint the dome's
surface with a non-reflective coating that would either match the
off-white trim of the house or approximate the blue color of the
sky; allow the structure to remain, but refer the matter back to
the Planning Commission to determine, within ninety days, a means
of making the appearance of the dome conform more to the roofing
material on the rest of the house; or remove the dome, but allow
for a more lenient amortization period of at least five years,
commencing on the date of the final action of the Council, and
during this period the dome would be painted as described in
alternative one. The Director explained that an application for
a second story addition to 1305 Sandpiper was submitted in 1989,
which included a covered roof access structure to a roof deck,
the application was reviewed by the Commission as a minor plan
review, was approved, and building permits were issued. He
reported at that time CRAS were allowed up to seven feet above
the allowable height for the property, in this case a total of
thirty-two feet in height. He noted that once construction began
inquiries and complaints were brought to the Commission and I
Council as to the incompatible appearance of the dome with the
surrounding neighborhood, henceforth there was considerable
review by both bodies as to the issuance of permits for this
project, and at the time of final inspections the applicant was
advised that the City would not waive its right to require
modification at some future time, whereas during that period
consideration of the CRAS issue was under review by the
Commission and Council. The Director recalled the Council
adoption of new CRAS design requirements in 1992, also a
requirement that all previously approved covered roof access
structures once again receive Planning Commission review to
ensure that the use of those structures continues as initially
set forth on the original plans and that they meet the new
criteria as closely as possible. He reported there were more
than one hundred thirty such structures reviewed, staff
recommended modifications to one structure however that was not
imposed by the Commission, and in this particular case the
Commission felt they could not approve the project as it
presently exists given the current criteria that: 1) the
structure be of minimum size both horizontally and vertically to
provide access to the roof deck; 2) the structure not be
constructed along an exterior side of the property; arid 3) the
style of the structure should closely match the roof style of the
residence itself. The Director reported the.determination of the I
Commission to allow the height variation for the property thus
allowing the covered roof access structure to remain yet required
that the dome be removed and replaced with a roof that would
match the style and slope of the house, the variance was not
approved as it was felt the property is no different from other
Hill area properties, also felt that views were substantially
affected by the dome structure. With regard to the issue of
amortization, he noted the applicant had estimated that the total
cost to purchase, install, remove and replace the dome would be
approximately $18,600, a memorandum from the City Attorney's
office cited court cases in California that have determined a
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baseline criteria for amortization of about $10,000 per year a
billboard case in particular that was felt to be fairly ,
consistent with this situation, and using that reference and the
fact that this structure has been in place since 1990, determined
an amortization period based upon a $6,000 per year use figure.
In response to questions of the Council, the Director surmised
that it is possible that there could be a salvage value of the
dome should another person be interested in such equipment, that
there was considerable discussion at the April 21st Commission
meeting of the financial impact on the applicant, and the final
decision with regard to the amortization period is at the
discretion of the Council.
Mayor Forsythe invited the appellant to present initial remarks,
thereafter other interested persons to present their comments to
this appeal. Mr. Mark Thompson, 1305 Sandpiper Drive, said he
and his wife were present to request support for the granting of
their appeal, reversing the decision of the Planning Commission
and approving a height variation for a covered roof access
structure. Mr. Thompson said there are at least one hundred
thirty other homeowners that have covered roof access structures
that do not conform to the new Code criteria, they are either too
large, located to the side of the structure, or are of a
different roofing material, and in at least thirty instances the
structures are nonconforming due to two of the criteria, yet all
have received unconditional approval with the exception of their
application where the Commission ordered that the dome covering
the stairwell be removed at personal expense within sixty days.
Mr. Thompson said at the time application was made for a building
permit to remodel their residence the Code allowed a covered roof
access if it did not exceed the twenty-five foot height limit by
more than seven feet, therefore a minor height variation was not
necessary, stated the only reason the Planning commission ever
saw the improvement plans was that a minor plan review was
necessary for the remodel as a result of the substandard size
garage, and that plan review required that neighboring properties
within one hundred feet be notified. He claimed that the
Building Department knew of the dome during that process, had
requested detailed drawings of same, and a permit was issued for
its installation, and for the sake of argument, had the
Commission seen the detailed plans and determined to not approve
them, there would have at least been an opportunity to change the
design of the improvements prior to construction and investment
of $22,000 in the covered roof access structure, yet the project
met Code requirements, was built according to the plans, and the
inspector signed the final permit. He said it is inconceivable
that a portion of their residence is now being required to be
removed as a result of an ordinance that was not in effect at the
time their home was remodeled, the only homeowner that is being
forced to comply retroactively, which leads to suspicion that the
new ordinance was drawn to find some way to require removal of
the dome, resulting in feelings of discrimination and unfair
treatment. Mr. Thompson offered that his family has lived in
Seal Beach for eighteen years, have conducted a business, and
have been actively involved in the community, this appeal a
request for fair treatment, not special treatment, ~ chance to
retain the covered roof access as it is presently configured, the
opportunity to coat the dome with a non-reflective paint to match
the trim of the house or a blue to match the sky, which he said
is felt to be a fair compromise. He concluded that they have
always maintained that their CRAS was legal and conforming at the
time it was designed and built, yet the new Code provisions now
makes it nonconforming. Mrs. Thompson requested that the letter
from Mr. Larry Nemirow be read for the record.
Rabbi Howard Liabson, 4364 Ironwood Avenue, voiced his concern
with the problem facing the Thompsons and said they would never
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consider invading another's privacy. He expressed concern with
crime, development of business in the community to enhance the
City's economic base, and an understanding of people being
hesitant to move their business or home to Seal Beach since they
could shortly find themselves out of compliance with city Codes
which, in his opinion, is not the kind of outreach to business or
individuals that is either wise or welcoming. Rabbi Liabson I
deemed gazing at the stars as a wonderful, wholesome activity
that can be shared with children yet there are some that propose
to take that opportunity away in this case. He questioned if
there is more concern with aesthetics than families, and asked
that the council determination be different from that of the
Planning Commission. Mr. William McNeil, 1305 Seal way, spoke in
favor of the dome which he cited as a little creativity and
unique, not a detriment to the neighborhood. He expressed his
opinion that to require the Thompson's to go through this process
is not fair, and that true value is allowing children to view the
stars. Ms. Seretta Fielding, Seal Beach Boulevard, spoke for
approval of the variance and allowing the dome simply because the
applicant went through the due process initially. Ms. Linda
Stobbe, 130 Cottonwood Lane, spoke in favor of the appeal,
pointing out that the applicants received a building permit for
their covered roof access structure, passed the final building
inspection, and their architect found nothing that would restrict
this structure. She said it is inconceivable that just one of
more than one hundred thirty CRAS did not meet the requirements
of the new Code provisions, claimed the city is partially
responsible for this problem, yet the applicant has been told to
remove the dome at his expense. Mr. Peter Anninos, 350 Electric
Avenue, recalled Mr. Thompson having told him of his preparation
and submittal of plans to construct an observadome, of which Mr.
Anninos indicated his support. He cited this as an issue of I
fairness whereby the applicant had done all that was required of
him, and of the many other such structures this is the only one
that has been deemed to not conform to the new standards. Of
those persons he has spoken with, most think the dome is a good
idea, and some in the neighborhood do not even know it exists.
Mr. Anninos spoke favorably of amateur astronomy, the importance
of this structure to the Thompson's, their family, something
special for the neighborhood, different and positive. Mr. Ira
Irwin, 1235 catalina Avenue, said the uniqueness of the homes and
the community drew he and his wife to Seal Beach, and in his
opinion the Thompson home fits in with the uniqueness. He
questioned the reasoning and fairness to ask the Thompson's to
tear down this structure after having obtained city approval in
compliance with the Code at that time. Mr. Carl Middleton, 4674
Candleberry Avenue, noted considerable mention of family and
community values, however this family has complied with the
rules, received approvals, yet is the only one being asked to
remove their structure, at their expense, and asked that the
appeal be granted. Mr. Leonard Raif, 203 - 7th street, expressed
his 'view that if the applicant complied with all of the
regulations he should not be asked to remove the dome. Mr.
Dennis Brown introduced himself as the architect who worked with
Mr. Thompson on his project, which he said was a good project
until special restrictions started to be imposed. From the last I
Planning commission meeting Mr. Brown reported stated claims of
loss of property values, invasion of privacy, loss of view, etc.
yet said it is his belief that there are only three persons in
opposition to this covered roof access structure. He mentioned
that this project was reviewed and allowed by city staff however
once complaints were lodged the city allowed the structure to be
built yet said it would not be approved. He claimed that this is
a viable, good project, where all legal Code requirements were
met, therefore there should be no problem with the structure.
Mr. Thomas Thompson, 323 Spinnaker Way, said he has been a local
property owner and business operator for nineteen years, and
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explained that the dome is capable of operating three hundred
sixty degrees but only one hundred eighty degrees skyward
therefore can not invade the privacy of anyone. He offer~d that
a photograph can be made to reflect whatever one wants, and in
this case claimed that photographs of the subject property are
propaganda. Mr. Thompson stated that his son is an amateur
astronomer, many persons like the dome because of its uniqueness,
and the appeal should be approved. Mayor Forsythe read written
communications from Mr. Mario Rossi, Catalina Avenue, and Mr.
Larry Nemirow, Daisy street, in support of the appeal.
Dr. Anton Dahlman, 1724 Crestview Avenue, indicated his agreement
with a number of comments thus far, yet said it appears that all
of the facts are not known, for instance had the dome been built
below twenty-five feet it would have been legal, also the covered
roof access, even though it does not meet current Code, was
approved at the edge of the house as were other CRAS, however the
Planning Commission, on a five to zero vote, did not approve the
roofing material or the observadome. He pointed out that Mr.
Thompson does not always use the observadome to view the stars
rather uses a hand held telescope principally from his driveway,
on windy nights he uses the observadome. He advised that the
City Code does not micro-manage the appearance of homes in the
community, yet there is an effort to manage those few exceptions
that are above the twenty-five foot height limit. Dr. Dahlman
said the appearance of events is that the applicant deceived the
Planning Commission inasmuch as he omitted the dome from the
drawings that were submitted to the Commission, the Commission
approved the drawings, the dome was then added. He stated that
the dome was likewise illegal in 1989 in that the Code allowed a
CRAS up to thirty-two feet in height, required that it be used
solely as a covered roof access, yet as it presently exists it
has an additional use as an observadome. Ms. Beth Hemphill, 3740
Oleander, expressed her viewpoint that the dome is offensive, not
conforming to the area, privacy is an issue, and suggested its
existence be taken care at the earliest possible time. Mr. Alan
Shields, 1300 Catalina Avenue, advised that his residence is
adjacent to and underneath the dome, said the appeal should be
denied as being groundless and without merit, the dome was never
approved, and can meet none of the criteria set forth for a
covered roof access structure. He described its location as at
the edge of the house, the roofing material looking nothing like
that of the remainder of the home, the area is to be of minimum
size both vertically and horizontally to cover the stairwell
structure accessing a roof deck, and in this case the structure
is vertically twelve to thirteen feet above the roof deck with
the observatory dome housed approximately five to six feet above
the doorway onto the roof deck. He continued, claiming that this
structure is not appropriate for the style of the building, is
not appropriate for the character or integrity of the
neighborhood, it impairs the primary view of properties within
three hundred feet, is used as an observatory dome therefore is
not nonhabitable, and claimed that detailed and complete plans
for the variation of this CRAS were not submitted. Mr. Shields
read the findings of the Planning Commission in support of their
decisions. Noting that ten persons had spoken in support of the
dome, Mr. Shields made reference to a petition signed by two
hundred seventy persons in March, 1990 declaring that devices
such as this are not acceptable, two hundred sixty-six of those
persons from the Hill area, one hundred of those from streets in
the immediately vicinity of the subject property. He compared
statements of the applicant from the minor plan review
application of June 1989 to those of the resubmitted application
of February 1993 where the applicant stated 'the structure is
appropriate for the character of the surrounding neighborhood as
it fits with the overall architectural design of the house' and
that 'I am not aware how the present structure may be in any way
detrimental to other property in the neighborhood.' Mr. Shields
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charged that the drawings of the subject structure in no way
represents the appearance of the finished mechanical device
structure, and pointed out that Dr. Axelrad, Mr. Andersen, and
himself, those property owners most effected by the dome, have
all spoken against it. With regard to claim of discrimination,
Mr. Shields noted that of the one hundred thirty plus CRAS
ninety-eight are located in Old Town or surfside, of those
located in the Hill area only three were required to be
reconsidered and only due to size, those structures are located
to the central portion of the dwelling, the roofing materials are
architecturally compatible with the house, all of which lessens
the impact on the adjacent neighbors. Mr. Paul Klair, 713
Sandpiper Drive, said of all of the other CRAS none have had a
negative effect as has the Sandpiper dome structure, citing the
impact on adjoining properties and property values, and suggested
that the appellant could pursue his hobby without the use of an
observadome. Dr. David Rosenman, Seal Beach, indicated
concurrence with the concept of diminished values for properties
located adjacent to this structure, and spoke for a five year
amortization period. Mr. E. T. Topping, 720 Sandpiper Drive,
said although he does not live next to the dome it is visible
from his rear yard and balcony, and expressed his opinion that it
does not conform with anything in the Hill neighborhood. Ms.
Carla Watson, 1635 Catalina Avenue, offered that even though she
lives here and supports the community that does not give her the
right to construct anything she wants, rather, before building
any type of structure she would first contact her neighbors,
suggesting that the community and neighbors should learn to work
together. Mr. Les Hauth, 1315 Catalina Avenue, said given the
unanimous vote of the Planning Commission he felt quite certain
that the commission had done their job well and would likely feel
the Council to be remiss in doing their job if the Commission
decision is not supported in some manner. Mr. Jerry Andersen,
1301 Sandpiper Drive, said when he first observed the
construction of the covered roof access structure next to his
residence, before the observadome, he contacted his neighbor, Mr.
Thompson, and expressed concern with its height, that to no
avail, he then spoke with other neighbors, councilmembers, the
City Manager, was a proponent of the petition in opposition to
the dome, all of which is considered to be working within the
system. He questioned the accuracy of the architect in that the
report from staff confirms that the CRAS as built did not conform
to the elevation drawings. He offered that he again tried to
talk to Mr. Thompson, suggested that if he wanted to have the
dome it should brought down to within the twenty-five foot height
limit or just have the CRAS, not both, yet Mr. Thompson said that
the issue was over. Mr. Andersen commended the accuracy of the
staff report and actions of the Planning Commission whereby the
applicant is not denied the covered roof access structure but is
required to take the dome off of that structure. Mayor Forsythe
read the written communication from Dr. Axelrad in opposition to
the appeal.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to
declare a recess at 10:32 p.m. The Council reconvened at 10:43
p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the meeting to order.
The appellant, Mr. Thompson, indicated regret as to the affect
this issue has had on his relationship with Mr. Andersen and the
other neighbors, and hoped that can be repaired. Mr. Thompson
claimed certain quoted comments of Mr. Andersen were not entirely
accurate, and stated when he had said there was nothing further
to talk about the structure had already received City approval
and he was under the assumption he was protected by the City
Codes, he conveyed to Mr. Andersen that he respected his opinion,
was sorry he had not had earlier input, however at that time the
structure was completed. He said it would have been a tremendous
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hardship at that point to remove and relocate the structure to
another location of the dwelling. With regard to the issue of
integrity, Mr. Thompson reported he and his wife have had
discussions with the City Manager and Director of Development
Services who confirmed that due process steps had been followed
and the fact that th~ Commission did not see detailed drawings is
because the matter before that body was a different consideration
therefore there was no need, yet detailed drawings were
subsequently provided to the Building Department at their request
and thereafter were approved. Mr. Thompson mentioned there is
still some misunderstanding as to the size of their covered roof
access structure, yet that structure continues to be within the
legal size and height limit, the dome shorter and narrower than
it needs to be. He added that there is no salvage value of the
dome, and to replace the dome with something that would be
equally appropriate in their minds, would be a significant
financial hardship. Mr. Thompson questioned what would be an
appropriate replacement and how that would affect the neighbors
materially, offering that to simply take the dome off and leave a
flat roof would look terrible, which is not going to happen, or
if the dome were replaced with a pitched or hip roof the height
would be approximately what it is now, thus there would be no
material difference to the adjacent properties. Mr. Thompson
reiterated his opinion that due process was followed, some people
feel what has been done is appropriate, some do not, expressed
belief that the issue is a gray area, asked that his compromise
proposals be considered, otherwise allow an amortization period
of at least five years. There being no further comments, Mayor
Forsythe declared the public hearing closed.
Considerable discussion followed with members of the Council
posing questions and points for clarification. The appellant
stated he did not recall the exact number of inspections of the
project during construction; the Director clarified that the
plans contained within the staff report are plans approved and
stamped by the City's plan checking firm, subsequently approved
and stamped by the Building Department prior to construction
occurring; once construction commences, depending upon the
complexity of the project, there could be as few as five or as
many as twelve inspections to ensure that the project conforms to
the plans; Councilman Doane surmised that in the eyes of the
inspector construction was in accordance with the plans; the
Director noted that the initial drawings submitted to the City
were not in a detail that showed the actual observadome, nor was
the dome specifically shown on drawings provided to the Planning
Commission; the initial concept approval for the second story
addition with the CRAS was granted by the Commission in June,
1989, final permits issued in December, 1989, construction began
in January, 1990; the appellant argued that the dome was shown on
the plans when his project was before the Planning commission,
and it was not necessary to provide detailed drawings of the dome
until such time as requested by the Building Department;
Councilmember Hastings indicated her understanding that it was
not necessary to provide detailed drawings to the Commission as
the issue before that body was a minor plan review and the
CRAS/dome was not being considered at that time; the Director
noted that if the elevation drawings had shown a structure more
similar in shape to what actually exists rather than what is
shown on the elevation drawing it is likely that issue would have
been noticed by city staff or the Commission at the time of their
review, yet specific detail was not required; the issue as to
whether an observadome is an appropriate structure came up at the
time of construction, that issue then considered by the
commission and Council, with the City Council instructing the
city Attorney to forward a letter to the Thompson's advising that
although approval of the project was going forward, the city was
reserving its right of further review based upon whatever new
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criteria might be developed, the new guidelines under
consideration at that time; the Mayor pointed out that it is
understandable that the CRAS/dome was not questioned given the
elevation drawing where the CRAS appeared to be just that; the
appellant acknowledged his intent to install the observadome at
the time the elevation drawings were prepared/submitted, however
the specific style had not yet been chosen; the Director stated
his belief that it had been a staff request that more detail be
provided as what the dome area atop the stairway would actually
look like, that request subsequent to the Commission approval in
concept of the project, that detail shown as page sixty-six of
the staff report. Mr. Jerry Andersen contended that the
elevation drawing shown on page sixty-six is a building document
which shows how it will be constructed and whether it can be
constructed in a safe fashion, in this case that answer is yes,
is it appropriate for the structure, that answer is no.
councilman Brown said he did not feel any new information over
what had been provided to the Planning Commission had been
presented. Mayor Forsythe expressed concern with government
involvement in private property issues, however acknowledged that
given the close proximity of residential properties compliance
with City Cod~ is essential, in this case the dome is not
compatible with the area overall, and the suggested alternative
to coat the dome will not resolve the problem. Councilmember
Hastings expressed her belief that the dome was done in good
faith and that Mr. Shields and Mr. Andersen have likewise
presented their views in good faith. She mentioned the financial
hardship that could be realized by the Thompsons, as well as the
fact that a CRAS is meant for access to a roof deck, and noted
that the Council is bound to uphold the ordinances of the city.
councilmember Hastings moved to impose a five year amortization
period from August, 1990, then allow thirty to sixty days for
removal of the dome. Councilman Doane seconded the motion.
After brief discussion, the motion was amended to impose a two
year amortization period only. The City Attorney clarified that
the amortization period would commence this date and conclude
August 23, 1995. Discussion continued.
Councilman Laszlo moved a substitute motion to affirm the
decision of the Planning Commission, granting the height
variation with conditions, denying variance 93-3, however extend
the amortization period for one year until August 23, 1994.
Councilman Brown seconded the motion. After further discussion
Councilmember Hastings requested that the motion be amended to
direct staff to oversee the replacement of the roof treatment.
The amendment was accepted by the maker and second of the
substitute motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Laszlo
Hastings
Motion carried
The City Attorney advised that a resolution reflecting the action
of the Council will be prepared for consideration at the next
meeting.
COUNCIL CONCERNS
Councilmember Hastings inquired as to the status of the
entertainment and campaign reform ordinances. The City Manager
reported the entertainment ordinance is being worked on and it is
anticipated will be presented to the first reviewing body by the
first meeting in October. The City Attorney noted the most
recent communication from Seal Beach resident Mr. Goodwin
relating to the campaign financing issue, and offered to submit
an ordinance for the agenda upon direction of the Council to do
so. Councilman Laszlo requested that a draft of same be provided
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the Council for review prior to placement on the agenda.
Councilmember Brown spoke in support of developing some means to
provide an alternate representative to Planning Commission
positions, as had been suggested by a gentleman addressing the
Council at this meeting. Councilman Doane concurred, expressed
regret at the loss of Mr. Fife from the Planning Commission for
reasons of a potential conflict of interest relating to an
upcoming Bixby Ranch development proposal, suggested a means be
sought to reinstate him to that posit10n, and making reference to
provisions of the Municipal Code relating to the Planning
Commission, suggested that alternate representatives be given
consideration. with regard to a potential time frame for
considering the Bixby proposal, the Director of Development
Services reported the applicant has indicated intent to revise
their plans, those could be anticipated within two to three
weeks, the environmental consultants have indicated their
documents could possibly be revised within three weeks to reflect
the new project submission, therefore the draft environmental
document could likely be circulated for public review and comment
in about six weeks, that process taking forty-five days, then
hearings would commence before the Planning Commission. In
response to Councilman Doane's comments relating to former
Planning Commissioner Fife, Councilmember Hastings noted that the
city Charter takes precedence over provisions of the Municipal
Code and an appointee serves at the pleasure of the city Council,
and offered that the city is appreciative of the service Mr. Fife
has provided the community, however it is also important that the
Council district be represented by a vote on an issue affecting
that area. Councilman Laszlo said he appreciated the comments
relating to his Planning Commissiop vacancy and would take them
under consideration. Mayor Forsythe suggested an alternate
representative at large, to which Councilmembers Hastings and
Laszlo objected.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Forsythe declared Oral Communications open. Dr. David
Rosenman, Seal Beach, mentioned his attendance at a civic meeting
the prior day at which comments were made in support of
Councilman Laszlo's decision to ensure representation of the
needs of the people from that district at the Planning Commission
level. There being no further comments, Mayor Forsythe declared
Oral Communications closed.
CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to
adjourn the meeting until Monday, September 13th at 6:00 p.m. to
meet in Closed Session. With unanimous consent of the Council,
Mayor Forsythe adjourned the meeting a 1:32 p.m.
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