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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONTROL BOARD
July 21, 1987
MINUTES
I. Call to Order
Chairperson Gayle Knapp called the meeting to order at 7:30.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
Lowell Kolb led the Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
Pamela Walker called the roll.
Present: Donald Eisenberg (arrives at 7:35 p.m.)
Stephen Gavlick
Gayle Knapp
Lowell Kolb
Absent:
Ray Fortner
Also Present: Pamela Walker
Department of Development Services
IV. Approval of Minutes
Mr. Kolb moved that the minutes of June 30, 1987 be approved
as submitted. Stephen Gavlick seconded.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Gavlick, Knapp, Kolb
none
Eisenberg, Fortner
V. Discussion: Draft Environmental Impact Report for Proposed
Amendment to Hellman Speclflc Plan and General Plan
Chairperson Knapp introduced the discussion as an
opportunity for public comment on the draft Environmental
Impact Report, and noted that comments could also be
submitted to staff over a 45 day review period.
Ms. Knapp suggested that the discussion follow the format of
the executive summary, beginning with geology and soils.
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Mr. Kolb inquired about the establishment of the earthquake
fault depth, and the 120 foot wide fault zone,
Ms. Walker explained that the Alquist Priolo Act mandates
the 120 foot setback around the fault within which no
habitable structures may be placed.
Mr. Kolb also noted a possible discrepancy in the text on
pages 4-2 and 4-3, wherein a statement on page 4-2 describes
the Seal Bach fault as "potentially active", while on page
4-3 the fault is "not considered to be active".
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Ms. Knapp raised the issue of liquefaction, and requested
Kirk Evans, Mola Development, to comment on the construction
of foundations within the project.
Kirk Evans, Mola Development, explained that soils reports
had found low liquefaction potential in the area proposed
for single family homes, and high potential for liquefaction
in the area designated for condominiums. Mr. Evans
elaborated on the recommended techniques for securing
foundations in both areas. He noted that these same methods
are employed elsewhere when liquefaction is a threat.
Ms. Knapp requested comments on hydrology and soils. None
were forthcoming.
On the subject of cultural resources, Ms. Knapp inquired as
to who would retain a certified archaeologist to monitor
grading, and what procedures would be followed if findings
of significance were made.
Mr. Evans answered that grading would cease upon a finding,
and an investigation would commence. Mola would provide the
archaeologist, subject to the City's approval.
Donald Eisenberg asked Mr. Evans what Mola's plans were
regarding Gum Grove Park.
Mr. Evans replied that Mola proposes to
60 percent of the park, and to extend the
Boulevard. He explained that studies had
Mola and the City to review the health of
which concluded that many trees were in
and were infested by the Australian
expressed Mola's willingness to dedicate
City for the City.
save approximately
park to Seal Beach
been conducted by
the trees, both of
danger of falling
borer. Mr. Evans
the park to the
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Mr. ~~r?'S. V10ted
M~. ~Aapp asc8rtaiRed that Mola has several options with
regard to satisfying the required parkland dedications,
including Gum Grove, in-lieu fees, and the golf course.1fMs.
Knapp also clarified, through Mr. Evans, the differences in
the conclusions of the two tree studies, noting that the
City's study was more optimistic that Gum Grove could be
saved through irrigation and proper maintenance.
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Mr. Robert Post, 1615 Crestview, suggested that trees
removed from Gum Grove be replaced, and that Mola contribute
to this process.
Mr. Carl San Fillippo, 801 Avalon, felt the mitigation
measure stating that the proponent work with the City to
develop a plan defining the configuration, features and
jurisdictional responsibilities of Gum Grove Park is
inadequate. He intimated that Mola probably wanted to get
rid of the park.
Mr. Evans stated that Mola would be willing to replace all
trees removed from Gum Grove, and that Mola had never
advocated getting rid of the park. Mr. Evans observed that
the 6.5 acres of Gum Grove to be preserved, the extension of
the park, and the golf course were more than adequate
mitigation for the portion of the park being removed. Mr.
Evans also pointed out that the decision on the disposition
of Gum Grove rested with the City.
Mr. Carl San Fillippo, 801 Avalon, stated he had mixed
emotions about Gum Grove Park. He asked that the City
address entrances, exits, parking, security and vehicular
access if the City decides to maintain Gum Grove as a park.
Mr. Robert Post, 1615 Crestview, inquired if Mr. Evans was
making a commitment to replace the trees Mola removed, and
if Mola would agree to irrigate the grove if necessary.
Mr. Evans stated Mola would, if that was a condition of
approval.
Mr. Kolb felt any tree for tree replacement should specify
sizes of trees and a time schedule for planting.
Mr. Eisenberg summarized the problem at hand as the lack of
any clear plan for the treatment of Gum Grove. He noted
that the draft EIR is deficient without such a plan.
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Mr. Evans replied that the draft EIR was simply stating that
there would be no significant environmental impact resulting
from the loss of a few acres in Gum Grove Park due to the
installation of a 105 acre golf course. He continued that
the EQCB could find such a mitigation measure inadequate but
that to include a plan for Gum Grove in the EIR would be
inappropriate at this stage. An alternative would be a
condition of approval requiring that a plan be submitted
showing tree for tree replacement in Gum Grove Park.
Mr. Eisenberg offered his view that Gum Grove Park and a
golf course were not equivalent land uses, and that while
the golf course would be an asset, it would not mitigate the
loss of eucalyptus trees. He also questioned whether the
benefits of maintaining the park in poor condition had been
contrasted with the costs, such as liability.
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Mr. Evans concurred with Mr. Eisenberg's assessment, and a
possible change to the mitigation measure. In response to
further questions, Mr. Evans indicated that if Gum Grove
were not dedicated to the City, it would be incorporated
into the rough as a buffer between the homes on Crestveiw
and the golf course.
Mr. Knapp also supported Mr. Eisenberg's comments, noting
that Gum Grove was the closest thing the City had to a
wilderness park.
Mr. Evans reiterated Mola's willingness to comply ,with the
desires of the City.
Mr. Eisenberg asked about the process for the abandonment of
oil we 11 s .
Ms. Walker stated that the Division of Oil and Gas specified
procedures for the proper abandonment of oil wells.
Ms. Knapp ascertained that Mola would be responsible for the
conversion of all active oil wells to electric motors.
Mr. Evans confirmed that
conditions of approval, and
out.
Mola would be responsible for all
was authorized to carry them
Mr. Carl San Fillippo, 801 Avalon, asked for an elaboration
on the potential Superfund sites near the project.
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Ms. Walker explained that
Garden apartments, and a
Station, and that neither
waste site.
the two sites were the Oakwood
portion of the Naval Weapons
had been designated a hazardous
Mr. Evans added that soil studies
not produce any evidence of the
adjacent properties.
Mr. Kolb asked whether tests had been conducted for the
presence of radon.
of the Hellman site did
hazardous wastes found on
Mr. Evans could not confirm this, but recalled that such a
request had been made of the consultant.
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Mr. Kolb asked that information from
investigations be included in an appendix.
Mr. Carl San Fillippo expressed concern that illegal dumping
was taking place on the site.
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soils
Mr. Randall Johnson, 1505 Crestview, proposed that there be
a condition of approval preventing night lighting. He felt
that excessive noise and insects would result, and that
screening would possibly be ineffective and unsightly.
In response to Mr. Johnson's question, Ms. Knapp noted that
the EQCB had the authority to recommend what he proposed,
and that she agreed with his concerns.
Mr. Bill Morrison, 1729 Crestview, also concurred with Mr.
Johnson, and stated that if the night lighting could not be
sufficiently mitigated, it should be eliminated.
Ms. Sally Hirsch, 1325 Crestview, expressed her concern
about noise and light emanating from the driving range.
Ms. Knapp inquired whether daytime noise had been addressed.
Mr. Randall Johnson, 1505 Crestview, reiterated his concerns
regarding impacts from night lighting.
Mr. Evans repeated that Mola was trying to address the
concerns of the people most affected, and that problems have
arisen where such concerns are in opposition.
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Mr. Ed Hirsch, 1325 Crestview, commented further on the
issue of night lighting.
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Mr. Anthony Sanchez, 105 Coastline, requested that an 8 foot
wall be included in the project between the homes on the
hill and the golf course.
Mr. Carl
for chain
course.
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San Fillippo, 801 Avalon, expressed his preference
link, in order to preserve views of the golf
He also felt the mitigation measures were very
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Ms. Walker noted that the EIR is a companion document to the
Specific Plan which is followed in turn by precise plans.
She observed that many of the issues brought up in
discussion would be further refined through the Specific
Plan and Precise Plan approval process.
Mr. Carl San Fillippo, 801 Avalon, questioned the impact of
construction and grading on dust and noise.
Ms. Walker explained that one of the mitigation measures was
to control fugitive dust during grading by regular watering,
and that noise impacts were anticipated to affect homes on
the hill only during grading.
Ms. Knapp asked what metfiods had been proposed for dealing
with the red fox population.
Ms. Walker stated that one of the mitigation measures
proposed was that grading be performed during a dry season,
when animal populations are low.
Ms. Knapp inquired as to the source of funds for the
additional city services required by the project.
Ms. Walker answered that the fiscal impact analysis in the
EIR showed a surplus to the City's Redevelopment Agency, and
outlined the sources of such revenues.
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Mr. Carl San Fillippo. 801 Avalon, requested additional
information on the disposition of the electrical lines
traversing the Hill.
Mr. Evans responded that Mola had proposed to abandon and
relocate the lines, subject to Southern California Edison's
approval.
Mr. San Fillippo asked what financial impact the sewers for
the site would have on City taxpayers.
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Ms. Walker explained that this infrastructure would be
financed through a Mello Roos assessment district, and hence
paid for by residents of the project.
Ms. Knapp concluded the discussion of the executive summary
and called for additional comments on the body of the EIR by
the Board.
Mr. Kolb opened additional
fault,and the technical issues
its location.
discussion of the Seal Beach
associated with identifying
Mr. Gavlick complimented Mr. Evans on the proposed golf
course and expressed confidence that the Gum Grove issue
would be resolved.
Ms. Knapp called for a recommendation from the Board.
Mr. Eisenberg moved that the EQCB recommend that the
provision of a 105 acre golf course be deemed unacceptable
as a mitigation measure for the removal of a portion of Gum
Grove Park; that a separate mitigation measure be proposed
which incorporates the City's decision on whether to save,
dispose of or improve the park; and that such mitigation
measure be a condition of approval for the project.
Mr. Kolb seconded.
Mr. Eisenberg observed that the park may not be worth the
liability associated with it, but that under any
circumstances the City should determine its position on Gum
Grove. He noted that a broad range of possibilities exist
for the park's future, and that Mola should not be solely
responsible for making such a decision.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Eisenberg, Gavlick, Knapp, Kolb
none
Fortner
Mr. Kolb moved that the Board recommend that the
consideration of chemical hazards on the site be more fully
presented in the Environmental Impact Report.
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Mr. Eisenberg seconded.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Eisenberg, Gavlick, Knapp, Kolb
None
Fortner
Mr. Eisenberg moved that the Board recommend that no night
lighting be permitted on the project's driving range.
Mr. Kolb seconded.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Eisenberg, Gavlick, Knapp, Kolb
None
Fortner
VI. Board Concerns
There were none
VII. Staff Concerns
Ms. Walker reminded the Board that the election of a
Chairperson and Vice Chairperson would be on the agenda for
the next meeting.
VIII. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.