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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONTROL BOARD
March 24, 1987
MINUTES
1. Call to Order
Chairperson Gayle Knapp called the meeting to order at
7:30 p.m.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
Lowell Kolb led the Pledge of Allegiance.
3. Roll Call
Pam Walker called the roll.
Present: Donald Eisenberg (arrived approximately 7:50 p.m.)
Stephen Gavlick
G,ayle Knapp
Lowell Kolb
Absent:
Ray Fortner
Also Present: Pamela G. Walker
Department of Development Services
4. Approval of Minutes
Lowell Kolb moved, Steve Gavlick seconded, that the minutes
of February 3, 1987 be approved as submitted.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Gavlick, Knapp, Kolb
None
Eisenberg, Fortner
Steve Gavlick moved, Lowell Kolb seconded, that the minutes
of February 24, 1987 be approved as submitted.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Gavlick, Knapp, Kolb
None
Eisenberg, Fortner
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5. Scoping Session: Environmental Impact Report for Amendment
to Hellman Specific Plan
Chairperson Knapp explained the environmental review process, and
the purpose of the scoping session. Ms. Knapp introduced Kirk
Evans, a representative of the Mola Development Corporation, and
asked him to discuss Mola's proposal for the Hellman property.
Kirk Evans, Mola Development Corporation, 8072 Adams Avenue,
Huntington Beach, indicated that Mola hoped to obtain public
input through the scoping process, and to answer any questions
the public might have. Mr. Evans brought out two issues relating
to Mola's proposal: He stated that Mola would forego the
inclusion of a Hyatt Hotel due to the negative public response.
He also informed the Board that Mola would be preserving 6.8
acres of the 9 acre Gum Grove Park, encompassing 60-70% of the
trees and the entire nature trail. In addition, Mola would be
providing land for the extension of the trail to Seal Beach
Boulevard. Mr. Evans stated further that two horticulturists are
studying the park to make recommendations as to which trees to
preserve. Mr. Evans referred to a newsletter summarizing Mola's
site plan which was mailed to residents on Crestview, adjacent to
the project site, and to residents of Leisure World. He noted
that since Mola's initial presentation to the City Council, the
street access to the project had been redesigned to allow through
access from Pacific Coast Highway to Seal Beach Boulevard. Mola
may also abandon or realign the 66 KV lines running through the
Hill in conjunction with development. As an additional feature,
the 7 1/2 - 8 acre water system on the golf course addresses the
wetlands issue raised in response to a previous development
proposal.
Chairperson Knapp asked Mr. Evans what access would be provided
to Gum Grove Park, as the plans do not show a parking lot at the
end of Avalon. Mr. Evans responded that Mola anticipated
pedestrian access only. He observed that it was not clear that
any significant parking demand existed at the park, and that no
specific design for parking had been proposed at Avalon or Seal
Beach Boulevard. Mr. Evans indicated that Mola could consider
parking at Seal Beach Boulevard, but that the safest access is
probably from the Hill.
Chairperson Knapp inquired whether Mola had considered including
public tennis courts in the plan in response to questions at a
previous scoping session. Mr. Evans stated that Mola cannot
provide the tennis courts, nor can Mola provide for all of the
community's needs. He suggested that interested parties discuss
the possibility of using City property off of Regency Drive. He
recalled that such discussion have been held with City staff.
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Mr. Jerry
course was
Mr. Evans
spaces.
Imhoff, 613 Beachcomber Drive, asked whether the golf
public, and how many parking spaces were provided.
responded that the course is public, with 127 parking
Mr. Anthony Sanchez, 105 Coastline Drive, asked what type of wall
would be provided between the golf course and the residences on
the Hill. Mr. Evans stated that Mola was not advocating any type
of fence, as the golf course would be below the level of the
homes. Mr. Evans noted, however, that this presentation does not
preclude any changes to Mola's plans in the future.
Mr. Randy Johnson, 1505 Crestview, inquired whether the City
would have any say regarding which of the trees in Gum Grove Park
would be removed. Mr. Evans said that two independent
horticulturists would be recommending trees for removal, and that
one study had already found many trees to be diseased or unsafe.
Because Mola will be dedicating the land to the City, the City
will be responsible for ultimately identifying any trees to be
removed. Mr. Johnson asked further whether vermin problems were
being addressed. Mr. Evans answered that the EIR would examine
that issue. Mr. Johnson asked whether a fence would be provided
between Gum Grove Park and the golf course. Mr. Evans stated
that Mola was not now proposing such a fence. Mr. Johnson
inquired lastly about the price ranges and square footage of the
homes proposed by Mola. Mr. Evans provided a rough price
estimate of approximately $350,000 for the single family homes
and, based on current prices for similar products elsewhere in
Orange County, $150,000 - $180,000 for the condominiums. Square
footages would run between 2,500 and 3,000 for the single family
homes, and between 500 and 900 for the condominiums.
Mr. Carl San Filippo, 801 Avalon, voiced his strong support for
the golf course, and preference for chain link fences so as not
to obstruct the view of the course from the Hill. Mr. San
Fillippo stated further that Gum Grove Park has been a nuisance
to Avalon residents as the park is used primarily for walking
dogs and for parties on weekend nights. He also objected to the
idea of connecting Seal Beach Boulevard with Avalon. Mr. San
Fillippo observed that during construction, dust may be a problem
to nearby residents, as may the likelihood that excavation could
disturb sites of past chemical dumping. He asked what the height
of the buildings would be. Mr. Evans responded that the average
height of the three-story buildings would be 35 feet, and that
all roof lines would be below the pads of the homes on the Hill
Mr. San Fillippo asked how traffic on Pacific Coast Highway would
be addressed. Mr. Evans noted that he would not have an answer
to that until the traffic studies are completed. Mr. San
Fillippo wondered if there would be an opportunity for one-on-one
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discussion with Mola staff. Mr. Evans stated in the affirmative,
that Mola was meeting the next evening with a homeowner's
association, and that he would be happy to meet with other
groups. Mr. San Fillippo observed that the development had moved
to the west on the site plan since the last presentation before
the City Council. Mr. Evans explained that the site plan had
been rearranged in order to relocate the access road to the
north.
Ms. Helen Sebring,
problems on
Pacific Coast Highway
where congestion would
this issue be examined
1705 Bolsa Avenue, stated that traffic
may result in increased traffic on Bolsa,
be more troublesome. She requested that
in the EIR.
Mr. Robert Post, 1615 Crestview, asked for an explanation of the
staking in Gum Grove Park, noting that it appeared that greens
would be close to the homes on Crestview. Mr. Evans responded
that the closest feature to existing homes would be a raised tee,
approximately 50-60 feet from the homes. In explaining the
staking system, he stated that the area above the stakes would
remain untouched by the project. Mr. Post asked whether grading
would be severe. Mr. Evans said it would be no steeper than now.
Ms. Donna Kett, 805 Avalon, expressed concern regarding Gum Grove
Park, and the possibility of a nature trail from Avalon to Seal
Beach Boulevard. She observed that the transient presence in the
park comes from Pacific Coast Highway, and that with direct
access from Seal Beach Boulevard the problem would not be
corrected. Mr. Evans stated that Mola was considering the
extension of the nature trail in response to community wishes,
but that the final proposal could include or delete that option.
Councilmember Joyce Risner, 845 Driftwood, observed conflicts
between this discussion and Mola's previous presentations. She
asked Mr. Evans whether the tennis courts would be public. Mr.
Evans said no, that two or three courts are now proposed for the
condominiums. Ms. Risner asked whether Mola could consider a
joint project with the City, sharing in the liability. Mr. Evans
responded that the realignment of the road through the project
site had precluded some tennis courts. In addition, the
homeowner's association in the condominiums would have a role in
determining the use of the courts. Ms. Risner also spoke on the
wall issue, noting that Mola had offered to provide one at a
Redevelopment Agency meeting. Mr. Evans stated that Mola would
consider any such request. Ms. Risner asked how close the
structures on the Hellman property would be to property lines on
the Hill. Mr. Evans answered that they were over 300 feet away.
Ms. Risner reiterated her appreciation of Gum Grove Park, and
observed that Mola's offer to remove the 66 KV lines along Bolsa
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would be a boon to residents of the Hill.
Mr. Bill Morris, 1729 Crestview Avenue, asked whether lighting or
netting would be included in the golf course. Mr. Evans
responded that the EIR would address these issues.
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Ms. Frances Johnston, 125 Coastline, expressed concern regarding
the large number of trees tagged for removal in Gum Grove Park,
and asked whether the hotel was still a possibility. Mr. Evans
explained the responsibilities of the horticulturist, and said
that a hotel was no longer being considered.
Mr. Matthew Mikkelson, 125 Surf Place, asked whether the golf
course could be City-owned. Mr. Evans stated that the City would
determine that.
Ms. Sally H~SCh, 1325 Crestview, expressed her support for
maintaining Gum ~rove Park.
Mr. Bob Charles Newber, Crestview Avenue, spoke on the park and
fence issues, and suggested that road access to Westminster be
provided.
Mr. Evans emphasized that Mola is not taking any stand on the
park issue, but is open to the suggestions and requests of the
City.
Councilmember Joyce Risner, 845 Driftwood, introduced letters she
had received about the Hellman plan into the record. These
letters discussed Gum Grove Park, traffic, noise from oil wells,
erosion on the Gum Grove slope, and monarch butterflies habitat
issues.
Mr. Dave Bateson, 62 Windjammer, Long Beach, spoke as a member of
the Island Village Homeowner's Association. Mr. Bateson
requested that Mola provide bicycle access to Pacific Coast
Highway from the north side of the project site, and include
pedestrian paths along the proposed roadway. Mr. Bateson also
proposed that the EIR address the liability involved in
maintaining Gum Grove Park along the golf course.
Mr. Randall Johnson, 1505 Crestview, discussed
night lighting on the golf course, and noise
production.
Mr. Carl San Fillippo, 801 Avalon, requested that access to Gum
Grove Park, noise from construction, and animals currently
inhabiting the vacant property be addressed in the EIR.
. Mr. Jerry Imhoff, 613 Beachcomber, expressed concern about
Gum Grove Park,
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traffic impacts, and the possibility that a hotel would be
suggested again in the future. He requested that a hotel not be
included as a land use option in the EIR, and that an amended EIR
be required if a hotel is proposed later.
Mr. Mike Vincent, 125 Coastline, stated his oplnlon that access
from Seal Beach Boulevard to Gum Grove would be unworkable, and
requested that parking be provided in the park.
Ms. Frances Johnston, 125 Coastline, spoke about access to Gum
Grove Park, and police patrols in the park.
Mr. George Jueler, 1709 Crestview, reiterated the benefits of the
park, and the need for easy police access.
Councilmember Joyce Risner, 845 Driftwood, requested that
additional information be provided by tree studies, including how
diseased trees might be cured. Ms. Risner supported the concept
of pedestrian access through the entire project.
Mr. Anton Dahlman, 1724 Crestview, spoke on the noise issue.
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Mr. Don Eisenberg commented that
statistics on pedestrians and
Park, especially on weekends.
concern regarding police access.
it would be helpful to have
automobile traffic in Gum Grove
Mr. Eisenberg also expressed
Ms. Mary Johnson, 1505 Crestview, asked about the public notice
procedure.
Mr. George Jueler, 1709 Crestview, requested that mosquito
abatement be addressed in the EIR.
Councilmember
prepared and
complete.
6. Adjournment
Joyce
public
Risner
notice
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be given
that
when
news
the
releases be
draft EIR is
With the unanimous consent of the board, the meeting was
adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
THESE MINUTES ARE TENTATIVE, SUBJECT TO
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONTROL BOARD.
APPROVAL BY THE
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Respectfull.t submitted,
01)b
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Department of Development Services