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CITY OF SEAL BEACH
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONTROL BOARD
March IS, 1988
MINUTES
10 CALL TO ORDER
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Environmental Quality Control Board of the City of Seal
Beach met at 8:00 p.mo and was called to order by
Chairperson Knapp with Lowell Ko1b leading the Salute to the
Flag.
III. ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Knapp
Board Members Eisenberg, Fortner, Gavlick, Kolb
Also
Present:
Pamela Walker, Administrative Assistant
Department of Development Services
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Fortner requested that the last paragraph on page three
be deleted as he felt it did not reflect his concerns.
MR. KOLB MOVED, SECONDED BY MR. FORTNER, TO APPROVE THE
MINUTES WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO PAGE THREE.
AYES:
EISENBERG, FORTNER, KNAPP, KOLB
NOES:
NONE
ABSENT:
GAVLICK
V. ASBESTOS IN THE HOME
Mr. Eisenberg reported that he had examined the ducting in
his home, and it was made of alumibestos. He also looked at
neighbors' attics, and found alumibestos there, too. He
concluded that many homes in College Park East would have
the same materials.
Ms. Knapp inquired if any of the ducting was damaged.
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Mr. Eisenberg replied that it was not, but noted that the
material was fairly lightweighto He expressed his
nervousness that he had discovered the alumibestos, and
stated that he planned to have it removedo He noted that he
was much more concerned than before, and that there could be
quite a .problem in College Park East. He also expressed
reservations about the finding that asbestos is only a
hazard when it is friable.
Mr. Kolb referred to a report he had filed with the City on
asbestos.
Mr. Fortner inquired whether there were state standards on
acceptable levels of asbestos.
Ms. Walker responded' that no such standards had been
established for asbestos in the home.
Mr. Fortner discussed the possibility of testing homes, and
finding sources of funding for testing.
Ms. Walker noted that the City had an outstanding planning
contract for CDBG funds which might be reprogrammed for
asbestos testing. She noted, however, that the County would
provide funds but not services. The City would have to
submit an acceptable' proposal for reprogramming the CDBG
funds, and perform the services.
Mr. Gavlick arrived at 8:15 porn.
Mr. Fortner inquired of Mr. Kolb if a testing program would
address the problem as he perceived it.
Mr. Kolb replied that he felt the problem was the presence
of materials containing asbestos, not how much asbestos was
there, or in what form. His goal would be to get the
ducting taken out before it broke down to avert a potential
problem.
Ms. Knapp raised concerns about how much removal would cost.
She noted that there were special licensing and disposal
requirements for asbestos work. She also raised a concern
about liability to the City.
Mr. Kolb expressed concern about the threat to people's
lives, and observed that asbestos was not identified as a
carcinogen until after the construction of the tracts.
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Mr. Fortner stated that the City would have no liability on
this matter.
Ms. Knapp noted that Mro Eisenberg's action had been a first
step. She called for suggestions for a second step from the
Board.
Mr. Eisenberg noted that material about asbestosis was easy
to obtain. He recommended that the Board make a
recommendation to the City Council noting their concern
about this issue, and presenting information about the
presence of alumibestos ducting in College Park East and
West homes, and recommending that the City Council inform
the public about the existence of this potentially hazardous
substance.
Mr. Gavlick felt this suggestion was appropriate given the
Board's authority.
Mr. Eisenberg added, in response to comments by Mr. Kolb,
that the Council's information not be done by a notice in
the newspaper.
Mr. Fortner suggested that the Board contact the members of
the City Council individually to see what would help them to
move on the issue, including recommending potential actions.
Ms. Knapp inquired about the possibility of including a
message with the water bill.
Mr. Kolb asked whether the Board would just concentrate on
College Park Easto
Ms. Knapp felt the entire City should be covered due to
changes in ownership since Mr. Kolb had campaigned in
College Park West. Leisure World might be excluded since
the homes are all electric, and the ducting only applies to
gas homes.
Mro Kolb discussed methods of sending flyers around the
Cityo
Ms. Knapp suggested coming up with a list of recommendations
for the Council. She inquired if a building inspector could
assist her with examining her ducting.
Mr. Fortner suggested enlisting the aid of a community or
youth group in distributing flyers.
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Ms. Knapp requested staff to return with some language in a
resolution making a recommendation to Council. In the
interim, the Board would develop some suggested actions.
VI. DISCUSSION: MEASURE A
Mro Eisenberg asked for a clarification of the availability
of open space in the City, particularly with regard to the
statement in Article I of Measure A that the City has not
met the ratio of 5 acres of open space/parkland for every
1000 residents.
Ms. Walker responded that calculation of the open space
ratio in Seal Beach depended upon how one defined open
space. If the beaches, proposed facilities, naval weapons
station and water area were included, there would be well in
excess of five acres of open space per 1000 residents.
Ms. Knapp noted that an Orange County Register article
reporting on open space in various cities did not employ a
consistent methodology from one city to another in
calculating open space acreage.
Mr. Eisenberg commented on the ambiguities contained in the
section of Measure A discussing the DoW.Po property.
Ms. Walker reported that the
voted to oppose Measure A due
distortions and confusion in
to the D.W.Po Specific Plan.
D.WoP. Advisory Committee had
to what they described as
presenting provisions related
Ms. Knapp asked what items were subject to a 2/3 vote of the
electo~ate under Measure Ao
Mso Walker replied that changes in land use on property
classified as public or quasi-public, construction or
reconstruction of streets, and planned unit developments
would be subject to such a vote.
Mso Knapp noted that these items
development of the Mola project.
would include the
Mr. Eisenberg requested information on the office building
construction on Seal Beach Boulevard next to Beverly Manor.
Ms. Walker explained that the office project complied with
zoning regulations and therefore did not require Planning
Commission or environmental review.
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Ms. Knapp explained that she had requested placing Measure A
on the EQCB's agenda as the Planning Commission, the D.W.P.
Advisory Committee, and the Parks and Recreation Commission
had all considered the initiative ordinance and taken a
position on it. Ms. Knapp asked the EQCB to discuss Measure
A and determine whether to take a stand on the initiativeo
Mr. Eisenberg inquired whether all the other committees had
taken stands against Measure A. He felt the ordinance was
over broad.
Mso Walker reported
commissions taking a
oppose the initiative.
that all the other boards and
position on Measure A had voted to
Mso Knapp expressed doubts as to the legality of the
initiative.
Mr. Kolb felt the Board should take its position on Measure
A from and environmental standpoint, since that is the
subject matter of the Board. He brought to the Board's
attention that the impartial analysis of Measure A showed
that an affirmative recommendation from the Department of
Forestry of a recognized California University would be
required to cut trees within the City. He noted that this
provision is cumbersome as only Berkeley and Humbolt State
had Departments of Forestry. He felt, due to the
unworkability of the recommendation requirement, that the
provision is environmentally unsound and would be to the
detriment of the health of the city's trees.
Ms. Knapp asked whether that section would affect property
owners cutting the trees in their yards. Mso Knapp also
asked the definition of urban forest contained in the Public
Resources Code.
Ms. Walker
trees on
definition
noted that
noted that the initiative ordinance referred to
public and quasi-public land. She read the
of urban forest in the Public Resources Code, and
it included "residential" trees.
Mr. Fortner noted that Measure A does exempt routine tree
maintenance. He opposed the provision, however, emphasizing
that it contained many definitional problems. He suggested
that the real target of this section was Gum Grove Park or
the windrow on Seal Beach Boulevard.
Ms. Knapp suggested that the Board focus on three or four
points to define its position on Measure A. She raised the
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issue of the strict enforcement of the 35 foot height limit
mandated by the initiative, noting that the municipal code
limits building heights to 25 to 30 feet for the most part.
She noted that the increased height limit would enable the
expansion of residential uses to an extent not permitted
under the existing zoning code, and that more residential
traffic would be the result.
Mr. Eisenberg asked what exactly was meant by enforcing the
35 foot height limit, and whether it would actually expand
existing height limits.
Ms. Walker noted that the text of the ordinance was unclear
as to whether the drafters of Measure A intended to increase
the height limit, or whether they erred in representing the
maximum height limit.
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Mr. Eisenberg reported that the undercurrent was that the
proponents of Measure A really wanted to allow maximum
expansion of residential uses, and that the other provisions
of the initiative were used to gain popular support. He
also noted that the ordinance violated the State Elections
Code by requiring a 2/3 vote of the people for a number of
items.
Ms. Knapp noted that there were three items now before the
Board: the tree issue, the 35-foot height limit and the 2/3
vote.
Mr. Eisenberg opened discussion about parking issues,
including shared parking and in-lieu parking. He requested
clarification as to how strictly staff enforced parking
codes, and what was meant by in-lieu parking.
Ms. Walker explained that .the in-lieu program grew out of
the downtown improvement study, and should have been
followed by additional study on parking facilities. The
current in-lieu program is only an interim effort, and
collects $100 per space per year to establish a fund to
build a parking facility. Participation in the in-lieu
program is granted through the variance process. Ms. Walker
noted that removing the in-lieu program would make it very
difficult to upgrade properties on Main Street according to
the recommendations of the downtown study. Ms. Walker
explained the differences between in-lieu parking and shared
parking provisions under the zoning code.
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Mr. Kolb noted that the provisions of the initiative would
turn the clock back on building on Main Street, while it
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would increase
properties.
opportunities to expand on residential
Mr. Eisenberg and Ms. Knapp commented that the Zoeter site
was commercial on one portion because leasing the commercial
properties would enable the city to purchase the park
portion. Since this item would probably be litigated, the
EQCB would not include it in its comments.
Mr. Fortner highlighted a section of Measure A, included
under an article designed to alleviate parking problems,
which would allow enlarging' existing nonconforming
residential properties. He felt that this section would
exacerbate parking shortages, thereby doing exactly what the
article purported to prevent.
Ms. Knapp noted that this was also a negative environmental
impact due to the parking problems created.
Mr. Fortner said there is a residential parking problem, and
this section makes it impossible for the City to correct
that problem.
Mr. Gavlick noted that many in Leisure World were opposed to
the ordinance due to the many conflicting statements in the
measure.
Ms. Knapp called for a motiono
MR. FORTNER MOVED, SECONDED BY MR. KOLB, THAT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONTROL BOARD FORMALLY OPPOSE MEASURE
A BASED ON THE AMBIGUITIES AND DISCREPANCIES DISCUSSED BY
THE BOARD:
THE PROVISIONS RELATING TO TREE CUTTING WOULD LIKELY
DETRACT FROM THE HEALTH OF THE URBAN FOREST THE
ORDINANCE IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT;
THE MEASURE WOULD ENFORCE A 35-FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT WHICH
DOES NOT ACCURATELY REFLECT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS
PERMITTED UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND WHICH MIGHT
INCREASE THE HEIGHT PERMITTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY;
THE MEASURE CALLS FOR A 2/3 MAJORITY VOTE ON A NUMBER
OF ISSUES, IN VIOLATION OF THE CALIFORNIA ELECTIONS
CODE AND THE CITY CHARTER;
THE MEASURE PERMITS EXPANSIONS TO NONCONFORMING
RESIDENTIAL USES WITHOUT PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL
PARKING, THEREBY ADDING TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING
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PROBLEM EXISTING IN THE CITY AND MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE
FOR THE CITY TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM
AYES:
Knapp, Eisenberg, Fortner, Gavlick, Kolb
NOES:
None
MOTION CARRIES, FIVE TO ZERO (5 - 0).
VII. BOARD CONCERNS
Mr. Eisenberg complimented the heating repairs in the
Council Chambers.
Ms. Knapp brought two more sign enforcement cases to the
attention of staff: Don Juan's blinking roof sign and the
Oakwood Apartments leasing signs.
Ms. Walker reported that the sign enforcement program was
generally successful.
Mr. Fortner suggested that the Board consider recommending
an ordinance prohibiting leaf blowers, and requested staff
to bring sample ordinances from other cities.
VIII. STAFF CONCERNS
There were n0 dtaff concerns.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
With the unanimous consent of the Board, the meeting was
adjourned to May l7, 1988 at 8:00 p.m.