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future of Old Ranch golf course and plans of the Bixby
Company for a signature eighteen hole course, waterscaped
throughout, with one hundred sixty high quality homes
enhanced with lake or golf course views, a hotel and
restaurant south of Lampson. Councilman Laszlo said the
letter mentioned a future general membership meeting to
discuss the plans, cited a recent effort at the City Council I
level to place the Country Club/golf course in District Four
rather than District Two, reported that Mr. Laszlo had vowed
to oppose the plans, and encouraged persons to attend the
February 11th Council meeting to oppose the redistricting
effort. There being no further comments, Mayor wilson
declared Oral Communications closed.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the m~eting until February 25th at 6:00 p.m. to
meet in Closed 'Session. "
The meeting adjourned at 12:25 a.m.
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Seal Beach, California
February 25, 1991
The city Council of the city of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:02 p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Wilson
Councilmembers Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt,
Laszlo
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Archibold, Acting city Manager
Mr. Barrow, Assistant city Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
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CLOSED SESSION
The Assistant City Attorney announced the city Council would
meet in Closed Session pursuant to Government Code Section
to discuss pending litigation, Mola Development Corporation
versus City of Seal Beach, threatened litigation regarding
the same property, and labor negotiations. It was the order
of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to adjourn to
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Closed Session at 6:04 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 7:00
p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the meeting to order. The
Assistant City Attorney reported the Council had discussed
the matters previously announced, also discussed cases
numbered 517450 and 507914 with Special Legal Counsel and
gave direction to said Counsel.
ADJOURNMENT
Wilson moved, second by Forsythe, to adjourn the meeting at
7:01 p.m.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
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Seal Beach, California
February 25, 1991
The city Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:15 p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the meeting
to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Wilson
councilmembers Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt,
Laszlo
Absent: None
Also present: Mr. Archibold, Acting City Manager
Mr. Barrow, Assistant City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
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WAIVER OF FULL READING
Laszlo moved, second by Hastings, to waive the reading in
full of all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to
the waiver of reading shall be deemed to be given by all
Councilmembers after reading of the title unless specific
request is made at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4001 - COUNCIL MEETING PROCEDURAL RULES
Councilmember Forsythe moved to postpone consideration of
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Resolution Number 4001 until the next meeting. Councilman
Hunt seconded the motion. Councilman Laszlo moved a
substitute motion to follow the agenda format as printed
even though Resolution Number 4001, the basis for that
format, has not as yet been adopted. Councilman Hunt
seconded the motion. After brief discussion Councilman
Laszlo withdrew the substitute motion and for the purpose of I
clarification, moved a second substitute motion to include
Council Concerns, in addition to the Council Items/Other
Concerns listed on the agenda, after agenda item "H".
Councilmember Hastings seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
Vote on the motion to hold Resolution Number 4001 over until
next meeting:
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
PROCLAMATIONS
Mayor Wilson proclaimed March 1, 1991 as IIpeace Corps Day."
The Mayor proclaimed February 17th through 23rd, 1991 as
"National PTA Week in the Los Alamitos School District."
AGENDA AMENDED
Forsythe moved, second by Wilson, to amend the agenda to
consider proposed Resolution Number 4022, paying tribute to
Al Lopez.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4022 - HONORING/PAYING TRIBUTE TO ADOLFO
"AL" LOPEZ
Resolution Number 4022 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, HONORING AND PAYING TRIBUTE TO THE MEMORY OF
ADOLFO LOPEZ." By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolution Number 4022 was waived. Councilman Laszlo noted
the passing of Mr. Al Lopez, Public Works Department
Superintendent, and commended him as a valued employee,
dedicated to the City of Seal Beach, the community and its
residents. Laszlo moved, second by Hastings, to adopt
Resolution Number 4022 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Wilson declared Oral Communications open. Mr. James
Goodwin, 1405 Crestview Avenue, said the consensus of the
experts is that the Hellman.property is a dangerous area
upon which to build, that the three independent experts had I
reviewed the Mola plan, each having determined that
additional data was needed to clearly define the wetlands
and liquefaction areas. He showed a diagram comparing the
high and moderate liquefaction areas of the Mola plan to the
ponderosa proposal, claiming that thirty of the ponderosa
homes would have been destroyed by an earthquake, and up to
six million dollars in damages plus death and injury would
be realized, and in the Mola plan eighty-eight homes would
be in the low or moderate liquefaction area where $1.2
million could be an estimate of potential damages. Mr.
Goodwin said he was uncertain if earthquake insurance would
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be available to homes on the Hellman property, also if the
high liquefaction zone extends to the state Lands parcel,
however the liquefaction issue is likely as a result of the
similar elevation of the area. Mr. Galen Ambrose, Seal
Beach, representing the Wetlands Restoration Society, stated
his review of the Initiative shows that two hundred forty-
seven homes will be built before there is any major
restoration of the wetlands and at that point the 6.5 acre
buffer area will only be planted with pickleweed, and
inquired if there was some provision in the Initiative that
would prevent a developer from ceasing construction prior to
the wetlands restoration and building of the remaining
higher priced homes. He asked also if this city would need
to make improvements to its water facilities to accommodate
the new construction, at a cost to the tax payers, as is
being considered in Huntington Beach. Mr. Bruce Stark, Seal
Beach, said he felt that a letter in the Long Beach
newspaper this date regarding the Redevelopment Agency was
misleading, that his understanding was tha~ the Agency is
several million dollars in debt, that no attention is being
paid to the costs that may be the result of the Mola
project, yet it was once projected at $200,000 annually
greater than tax revenue. He referred to the potential for
water rationing, however new homes are being considered that
will result in increased water rates. Councilman Hunt
responded that the Seal Beach tax payer has not paid an
Agency debt, and although the city has loaned the Agency
monies, the interest the Agency pays is greater than could
be earned if that money were in a bank. Mr. Victor Grgas,
Seal Beach, offered that there is misunderstanding as to
what an Agency can and can not do in California, that Seal
Beach has benefitted from Agency activities such as the
greenbelt, library, Zoeter School, baseball diamond,
childcare, etc., that the citizens do not pay more taxes,
and in many cities the use of Agency monies has avoided the
need to use General Fund monies. He pointed out that there
is legal opinion that Agency funds may be used to repair the
groin and replace sand on the beach, and said those monies
could come from the Agency through the Mola project. Making
reference to the number of signatures on the Initiative
petition, Mr. Grgas requested that the Initiative be placed
on the ballot, and that no additional measures be
considered. He suggested that the monies that would be
spent on legal costs could be better spent on street or
sidewalk repair, alleys, etc., also that opinions with
regard to liquefaction and earthquake laws should be based
upon State law. Councilman Laszlo said he felt the
expenditure of legal fees will be realized if the Mola
project is approved. Councilmember Hastings noted that
Redevelopment Agency monies can not be used for general
maintenance or repair, also claimed that the entire budget
for legal fees had been expended in the first months of
1990. Mr. Frank.Ellsworth, Leisure World, reported after a
recent Archaeological Committee meeting three of the five
members met at a local restaurant to informally work on some
changes that had been discussed during the regular meeting.
He said it has been suggested that the meeting of the three
members could be interpreted as a violation of the Brown
Act, however as Chairman of the Committee his interpretation
was that it was an act of enthusiasm to provide the best
Archaeological and Historical Element possible, and upon
receipt of new State guidelines it is the intent of the
Committee to complete their work. In response to Council,
Mr. Ellsworth explained that since there had not been
agreement at the regular meeting, he believed the intent was
to develop language that would be acceptable to the
Committee as a whole. In response to Council, the City
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Attorney said a violation would depend on whether this would
be considered a meeting under the Brown Act or if decisions
were being made. Councilmember Hastings noted that the
meetings of the Committee must be public, that the meeting
of the three appears to be a violation, that anything
resulting from that meeting should not be allowed, that the
participants should not sit on the Archaeological Committee, I
or the Committee should disband and submit what has been
developed thus far. Councilman Hunt said he felt ,it would
be appropriate for the City Attorney to discuss this matter
with the individual members of the Committee. Councilmember
Forsythe inquired if there was a report completed prior to
the last meeting, prior to any changes that are a matter of
this discussion. Mr. Ellsworth responded that there were
two reports, somewhat different is wording and structure,
that could be made available. The Acting city Manager said
he would be willing to discuss the issues of the Brown Act
with the Committee members. Councilmember Hastings
suggested that the City Attorney should render a decision as
to what took place.
Councilmember Forsythe moved that the Council be provided
with copies of the reports compiled prior to the last
meeting of the Committee, look at any modifications to those
reports as a separate issue, and have the Committee continue
to meet to attempt to agree on one report. Councilman Hunt
seconded the motion. Discussion followed. The Assistant
City Attorney stated that more information would be
necessary to determine if there was a violation of the Brown
Act, and suggested that the staff communicate with the
members of the Committee to determine what happened at the
impromptu meeting and if an action was taken. Councilman I
Laszlo asked that this subject be placed on the next agenda
for further discussion.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
Hastings Motion carried
Mr. Robert Smiley, Leisure World, expressed his support for
the Mola project, thanked members of the Council and the
staff. Mr. Dick Ramzier, Seal Beach, suggested that the
debate over the Hellman land has gone on too long, the
number of dwellings has decreased from more than seven
hundred to three hundred twenty-nine, the developer has
complied with the requests of the Council, that the plan has
met the requirements of the Coastal Commission, Fish and
Game, National Wildlife Service, Marine Fisheries, and urged
that this issue now be placed on the ballot. Mr. John
Nakagawa, 320 - 12th Street, said he had observed the
members of the Archaeological Committee together at the
restaurant, and requested that the city Attorney review the
Administrative Procedure Act, Public Records Act, and the
Brown Act. There being no other comments at this time,
Mayor Wilson declared Oral Communications closed.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 8:15 p.m. The meeting reconvened at
8:24 p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the meeting to order.
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CITY COUNCIL ITEMS/OTHER CONCERNS
HELLMAN RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN INITIATIVE ORDINANCE and RELATED
DOCUMENTS
Councilmember Hastings asked that the report prepared by the
Finance Director of the Hoffman Associates financial report
be reviewed. Councilmember Forsythe suggested a review of
the City Attorney analysis. Councilman Laszlo referred to
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four financial reports prepared by Stanley Hoffman
Associates, a May, 1986 analysis of seven hundred seventy-
three units showing an annual loss to the city of $21,600, a
May, 1989 analysis of four hundred twelve units showing a
$97,845 loss, a November, 1990 analysis of three hundred
forty units projecting a $174,000 loss, yet the most recent
analysis, paid by the development company, projects an
annual financial gain to the city with eleven less units.
Mayor Wilson offered that the financial projections would
change as a result of the different number of units and
benefits that were not originally a consideration.
Councilmember Forsythe inquired as to what means is used to
calculate certain fiscal benefits to the City, as an example
the taxable purchases based on household income is shown as
35.15 percent, where the purchase of many large items are
not available in this community. The Director of
Development Services responded that he believed such
information is based upon federal data such as the census of
retail sales that is conducted about every five years within
community, the consultant then makes projections from that
information. He noted that typically a city will fall
within the forty-five to fifty-five percent range, and the
thirty-five percent represents the total spendable income
within this city given the lack of availability of major
purchase goods. Councilman Laszlo mentioned the $45 per
capit~ cost for fire services and inquired if future
increases had been considered. The Acting City Manager
noted the cost for fire services is based upon a formula
taking into consideration calls for service, assessed
valuation and population, and that he did not know if future
increases had been considered. councilman Hunt stated
although there may be some minor inaccuracies of the
numbers, he felt that the Stanley Hoffman report was
reasonably accurate and incorporates the industry. standards
for compiling such data. Councilmember Forsythe asked for
clarification of a $173,000 reduction of public works
recurring costs and noted the Finance Director's answer
regarding the reduction of citywide overhead from $59,000 to
$23,000. Councilman Hunt said he had discussed the public
works costs with the Finance Director, and made a comparison
between this project and Leisure World with regard to public
works where their services are necessary only on occasion,
pointing out that this project would be a closed community
having a homeowners association that will be responsible for
the repair of streets, trimming of trees, etc., however
First Street would be a dedicated street falling within City
maintenance. The Acting City Manager noted an explanation
of the difference in public works costs commenced at the
bottom of the first page of the February 7th letter from
Hoffman Associates, then proceeded to read the February 12th
memorandum from the Finance Director in full.
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Councilman Laszlo requested Mr. Martin Coren' of McClelland
Coren Consultants to respond to the Hoffman Associates
financial analysis, and so moved. Councilmember Hastings
seconded the motion. Discussion followed. Mr. Gordon
Shanks said as a result of concerns with the Hoffman report
by Seal Beach citizens United, Mr. Coren had been requested
to do an independent analysis.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
Mr. Coren introduced himself as a Redevelopment Financial
Consultant, McClelland Coren Consultants, and stated he had
been retained by Seal Beach citizens United to examine the
Hoffman report in the specific area of redevelopment
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revenues and that he had not reviewed other areas of that
report. He said the basis of his review, attempting to
utilize the same development functions as the Hoffman
report, it is felt that report significantly overstates the
tax increment revenues that can be generated from the
project area, that conclusion based upon the assumption that
the taxable values will grow from the project area at six I'
percent annually and apparently ignoring Proposition 13
which limits ,growth to two percent annually, where in order
for the project area to grow at six percent annually either
all of the homes would need to change ownership at a six
percent appreciation or the percentage of the homes that
change ownership would have to be significantly higher than
the six percent in order to bring the total project area up
to six percent. He said their calculations, based upon one
assumption of the Hoffman report that ten percent of the
property would turnover per year, were appreciated at six
percent, another element he felt the Hoffman report did not
take into consideration was the required twenty percent tax
increment set aside for low and moderate income housing,
there is a 1.25 percent administrative cost on property
taxes in Orange County that was not taken into
consideration, also there was difficulty with the manner
Hoffman Associates calculated the present value of the tax
increment, commencing their revenue stream from 1993
forward, yet the report deals with 1990 dollars or three
years of additional inflation which tends to diminish the
present value calculation that they utilized. Mr. Coren
stated as a result of their calculations it is felt that the
redevelopment portion of development will generate
approximately $14,280,000 from 1993 through 2012 as opposed
to the $29 million plus projected by the Hoffman report, I
with a present value of $4.5 million versus $10.8 million.
In response to a number of questions posed by Councilman
Hunt, Mr. Coren explained they had used six percent for the
annual increase however only applied that figure to ten
percent of the property each year where Hoffman had applied
the six percent to all of the property in the project area,
that it was felt to project that the entire property would
increase six percent was unrealistic, that Hoffman had based
the present value on nine percent and the increases on six
percent. He said he had not used industry standards for the
calculations, rather tried to use the standards of the
Hoffman report, that their January 9th memorandum indicated
for purposes of calculating property transfer tax a
projection of ten percent or more turnover every ten years
was used. He confirmed that the twenty percent set aside
had been subtracted from the total income that would be
received by the Agency, that it is assumed there is a tax
increment flow that would generate sufficient revenue to
satisfy any set aside debt, and offered that under
Redevelopment law there is a means to defer payment of the
set aside to meet pre-existing obligations, projects,
programs, and activities started before 1986, however there
must be a plan as to how those deferrals will be paid,
likewise redevelopment monies can not be spent on a new
project area until the deferrals are paid. The Assistant I
City Attorney confirmed that there must be a twenty percent
set aside for any new projects, and explained that in 1986 a
Resolution was adopted that listed the existing obligations
of the Agency, at that time the set aside could be
accomplished by two methods, one was to payoff the existing
debt, the other was to make a finding that there were
existing programs that was consistent with the intent of the
twenty percent set aside, and in 1988 or 1989 there were
legislative changes where the Council could no longer defer
setting aside the twenty percent. He noted that if the
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Initiative is approved and the City starts rece~v~ng tax
increments from that project, twenty percent must be set
aside. In response to Council, Mr. Coren said he had not
heard of the Stanley Hoffman firm prior to this time.
Councilman Laszlo made reference to proposed Assembly Bill
315 that would increase the set aside from twenty to forty
percent for existing project areas unless the city has
failed to meet its low/moderate income requirement in which
case the set aside would be fifty percent, therefore if this
project were passed and the projected tax increment is $14
million, $7 million would go to the low/moderate set aside.
Mr. Coren said if AB 315 were to pass it would be forty
percent of the gross amount, noting that the twenty percent
had been deducted from the projected $14 million tax
increment, however still a significant amount. Councilman
Laszlo suggested that if that amount of money were required
to be set aside it is likely this City would be required to
develop low income housing at some point in the future, the
result of which could be a cost to the city, less available
tax increment for other uses, and concluded that the Agency
is currently in debt and that situation may get worse. He
also questioned if Redevelopment monies could be required to
be used to develop housing on the remaining Hellman land.
Councilmember Hastings stated the Initiative does not
guarantee that one hundred sixty-four homes will be built in
the project area, therefore the Hoffman financial
projections would be incorrect. Councilmember Forsythe
noted the substantial differences between the analysis of
Mr. Coren and Hoffman Associates, the differing opinion
regarding Prop 13, the twenty percent set aside had not been
applied nor had the 1.25 percent administrative costs, and
the use of 1993 calculations versus 1990. Discussion
continued between Councilman Hunt and Mr. Coren regarding
Table 4 of the Hoffman report. Mr. Coren concurred with the
projected ten percent turnover ratio, cited his use of six
percent increase of property values to be consistent with
the, study, noted that property values in Los Angeles county
have increased eleven percent in recent years, this past
year the values are either stable or dropping. Councilman
Hunt said long term the industry accepts nine percent as the
annual increase for Southern California coastal cities given
a ten percent turnover, which could result ~n the difference
between the analyses, and over a period of ten year that
would result in an average six percent increase in the
property tax increment. Members of the Council expressed
their views as to the accuracy of the two analyses. Mr.
Coren was thanked for his presentation.
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It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 9:36 p.m. The meeting reconvened at
9:49 p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the meeting to order.
Councilmember Forsythe suggested that a date be set for a
special election, then discuss the analysis of the
Initiative. Councilman Laszlo said if there is question as
to whether an advisory measure will be considered, he would
prefer to consider that first.
Wilson moved, second by Forsythe, to call a Special Election
for June 4th, 1991. Councilman Laszlo said he felt the
Initiative is flawed, may result in further legal actions,
and could be illegal. Councilmember Hastings disagreed with
calling an election at this meeting as requested by the
Initiative Committee, inquired if the Committee was prepared
to present a $25,000 check to the' City and if the election
is set would that eliminate further legal actions as claimed
by a February-5th letter. Councilmember Forsythe said that
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setting the election at this meeting was not the result of
the referenced letter, that it was likely the necessary
number of signatures would be obtained on the second
petition drive that is currently in progress and requesting
an August election date, therefore to obtain maximum voter
turnout it would be her preference to hold the election in
June prior to summer vacations. Councilmember Hastings I
agreed with the reasoning, however stated she would abstain,
as an election could be called at the next meeting of the
Council. Councilman Laszlo expressed preference for a
November election, yet agreed that vacation schedules could
pose a problem. Mayor Wilson and Councilman Hunt supported
the June 4th date.
Vote on the motion to adopt Ordinance Number 1326 entitled
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, CALLING AND GIVING NOTICE OF THE HOLDING OF A
SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY ON
TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 1991, FOR THE SUBMISSION TO THE VOTERS OF A
QUESTION RELATING TO THE HELLMAN RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Ordinance Number 1326 was
waived.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Forsythe, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None
Hastings Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4009 - REOUESTING COUNTY SERVICES -
SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION - JUNE 4. 1991
Resolution Number 4009 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, REQUESTING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE
COUNTY OF ORANGE TO RENDER SPECIFIED SERVICES TO THE CITY
RELATING TO THE CONDUCT OF A SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO
BE HELD IN THE CITY ON TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 1991." By unanimous
consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4009 was waived.
Hunt moved, second by Wilson"to adopt Resolution Number
4009.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Forsythe, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None
Hastings Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4010 - WRITTEN ARGUMENTS - SPECIAL
MUNICIPAL ELECTION - JUNE 4. 1991
Resolution Number 4010 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE' CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA; SETTING PRIORITIES FOR FILING A WRITTEN ARGUMENT
REGARDING AN INITIATIVE MEASURE AND DIRECTING THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN IMPARTIAL ANALYSIS." By unanimous
consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4010 was waived.
Hunt moved, second by Wilson, to adopt Resolution Number
4010 as amended to authorize Mayor Wilson and Councilman
Hunt to file a~ argument in favor of the measure and
Councilmembers Forsythe, Hastings, and Laszlo to file an
argument against the measure.
Councilmember Hastings noted that the ballot question
throughout the documents pertaining to an election there is
reference to three hundred twenty-nine single family
dwelling units, however there is no mention of the one
hundred twenty-five units on parcels eight, nine and ten,
which she claimed is part of the Initiative. Councilman
Hunt pointed out that the summary prepared by the City
Attorney defines the boundaries of the project as the one
hundred fifty acres, even through argument could possibly be
made that somewhere in the Initiative petition it could be
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construed that it includes the one hundred twenty-five
units. After some discussion, the Assistant city Attorney
recommended that the vote be taken on Resolution Number 4010
and subsequently should the Council choose to reconsider
Ordinance 1326 that action could be taken, or the additional
units could be addressed at this time. Councilmember
Forsythe noted the analysis points out uncertainties as to
what would be applied to the remainder parcel in the future,
also there is reference to the flood retention basin in the
Initiative, and questioned if consideration is being qiven
to a two hundred twenty-five acre development at some point
in time regardless of the Mola development, that there is
reference to elections at a later time for the seventy acre
one hundred twenty-five multi-family units and options
regarding the flood retention basin, therefore if the
Initiative binds two hundred twenty-five acres of the
Hellman parcel, people should be made aware of that fact.
The Assistant City Attorney responded that he saw no
reference in the analysis to acreage other than the 26 acres
of parkland and 41.4 acres of wetlands, and explained that
the portion of the Hellman Ranch proposed to be developed by
the Measure is one hundred forty-nine acres, below the
extension of First street, yet the Initiative does affect
more than the one hundred forty-nine acres, that there is a
reference in Specific Plan section 4.5.1 that is not
entirely accurate, the analysis pointing out that 'the 1990
Housing Element does not make the construction of these
affordable units a certainty, the program calls for public
hearing to determine the appropriateness and benefits of
redesignating the Hellman Remainder Parcel for uses
including both single family detached market rate residences
and either medium or high density multifamily affordable
housing units, to promote a more balanced housing inventory
within the community,' and the conclusion in the analysis is
that 'because this paragraph of the Specific Plan merely
refers to the one hundred twenty-five affordable housing
units noted in the Housing Element, it is unlikely that the
Specific Plan will be read to impose any more restrictions
on development of the Remainder than does the 1990 Housing
Element.' He explained further that the Housing Element
states the one hundred twenty-five units is a program the
City will explore and after further studies determine if it
is appropriate housing, that the Initiative does include the
parcels yet does not impose any further restriction or
commitment of the city on the Remainder with respect to the
one hundred twenty-five units, and should the Initiative be
approved it would not prohibit the City from changing or
modifying the Housing Element after the studies are
conducted. Councilmember Hastings questioned the appearance
to a court should the city choose to amend the Housing
Element to eliminate the possible one hundred twenty-five
low income housing units on the Remainder. , The Assistant
city Attorney said it would be difficult to'determine the
position of a court should the City follow its program, hold
hearings, and make a decision that it is or is not
appropriate to place that housing on the Remainder, and at
that time if there were action to contest the decision of
the City it is possible argument could be made that it was
contained in the Housing Element and the Specific Plan
Initiative. Councilman Hunt said that mention of the one
hundred twenty-five units does not mean it is part of the
Specific Plan Initiative. Councilman Laszlo offered that
the Remainder would provide a location for Mola to place
low/moderate income housing if required to do so.
Councilman Hunt pointed out that the developer is being
required either provide $360,000 or thirty-three affordable
housing units at an undetermined location in the City.
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Councilmember Forsythe questioned why reference to parcels
eight, nine and ten, one hundred twenty-five housing units,
and the Flood Control Basin is made in the Initiative unless
there was a specific purpose for making such reference.
Councilmember Hastings noted that a letter from the Hellman
attorney indicated that they were not aware that parcels
eight, nine and ten had been included in the Initiative. I
Councilman Hunt again pointed out that the boundaries of the
project are clearly defined in the Initiative, and that the
five acres outside of those boundaries was referenced
because Mola/Hellman had a responsibility, as previously
agreed to, to sell that land to the city to be subsequently
zoned as Public Land Use. Discussion continued regarding
the Remainder and the requirement to address affordable
housing. The Director of Development Services explained
that the initial Housing Element submitted to the State
Department of Housing and Community Development did not
indicate general areas where a potential existed for
creating a possible demand for low and moderate income
housing in the community, the State then determined that the
city needed to develop a more precise description of areas
and establish a potential time schedule to consider those
areas for future development, which was a concern of both
the Planning Commission and Council when the Element was
going through the adoption process. with regard to concerns
brought forth in the letter from the Hellman attorney, the
Director reported the response from the City had been that
it was understood the reference was to correspondence
between the developer and his representative, and if not the
City would be willing to provide them any information with
regard to future discussions regarding their property.
Councilmember Forsythe inquired as to what legal grounds the I
city would have should the Initiative be approved by the
voters and a proposal were submitted for multi-family units
on the Remainder and it was found that use was inconsistent
with the a use desired by the city. The Assistant City
Attorney stated the key issue is how any type of development
could be provided on the Remainder if the Initiative is
passed, that the Initiative document is inconsistent
regarding whether the Remainder is a part of the Initiative
or whether the Initiative affects the Remainder. He cited
as an example, if someone wants to place some type of future
use on the Remainder in the future, the question would
become is this future development consistent with the spirit
and intent of the Initiative, noting that in reading the
document one can not determine what the spirit and intent of
the Initiative is with respect to the Remainder, that being
the problem that will be faced regardless of what the
project may be or the reference to one hundred twenty-five
units. He again pointed out that the Housing Element does
not provide for one hundred twenty-five units on the
Remainder, however one of the programs of the Housing
Element states that public hearings will be held to analyze
whether it is appropriate to place housing on that property,
which is substantially different from saying public hearings
will be held because the Housing Element provides for those I
units. with regard to any future use of the Remainder he
said their opinion is that an amendment would be required,
whether it would require a vote of the people is presently
unknown and depends on whether it would be consistent with
the spirit and intent of the Initiative. The Assistant City
Attorney expressed opinion that the city would not lose any
power over what the future development of the Remainder will
be, yet if that power is reserved for the voters there could
be a loss of control depending upon the type of proposal and
determination of the purpose and intent of the Initiative,
also that he could not envision what an administrative
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amendment might be with respect to the Remainder.
Discussion continued. with regard the enforceability of
conditions, as set forth on page five of the analysis, the
Assistant city Attorney explained that development
agreements are agreements between two parties, the City and
the developer, the developer agreeing to certain things in
return for assurances from the city, however an initiative
is a unilateral action imposed by the voters and consent to
a development agreement is not required on the part of the
developer nor can it be obtained in that manner, yet in
their opinion if Initiative is approved it would be in the
best interest of the city to have a development agreement or
impose whatever conditions that can be justified with
approval of the subdivision map, and concurred that there
could be some difficulty in obtaining the amenities offered
through the Initiative from a successor developer unless,
once again, there is a development agreement or conditions
are imposed on the subdivision map. with regard to page
twenty-two, section 1.3 of the analysis, he noted there is
uncertainty with any development that the city will receive
the benefits outlined, as an example, if the units are not
built the City would not receive the $1 million, as was the
case with the 1989 approvals as well as this Initiative.
The Assistant City Attorney clarified that the Specific Plan
constitutes the zoning of the property to which any
developer would be required to comply, and if adopted, the
Initiative controls the entire Hellman Ranch, yet given the
inconsistencies there is question as to what would apply to
the Remainder if this Initiative does not, considering that
the Initiative would repeal the 1987 amendment, and it is
unknown if the intent was to go back to the 1981 plan with
respect to the Remainder. He noted that although not
specifically addressed in the analysis, in comparing the
1981 plan, the 1987 amendment, and this Initiative, they
essentially call for the same use on the Remainder, oil
production/future development, that.there are also some
variations of the boundaries that can be addressed at a
later time if necessary. He again clarified that a
development agreement could not be entered into unilaterally
in the case of approval of the Initiative by the voters,
that would require the consent of the developer, however if
such consent were given there would be less concern with the
enforceability of conditions. Councilman Hunt asked if a
statement could be made in a development agreement that the
one hundred twenty-five units were not a part of the
Initiative project. The Assistant city Attorney indicated
that would be difficult, rather that would be a statement of
the proponents of the Initiative as to its intent. With
regard to the precise boundary definition of the Initiative
project area, Councilman Hunt again stated he could not
understand how one could construe any area outside of that
project to be part of the Initiative. The Assistant city
Attorney again stated there is no question that the area .
proposed for development is one hundred forty-nine acres,
the next question becomes how is the remainder affected by
the Initiative, that there are areas of the Initiative that
states there are three planning areas that are designated
for oil production and future uses, a reference to the five
acres, and another reference to the one hundred twenty-five
units, therefore if the 1987 amendment is repealed by the
Initiative document, which also included references to the
Remainder, the Initiative then stating that it does not
apply to the Remainder, is it then suggested that reference
be made to the 1981 Specific Plan, which was essentially
repealed by the 1987 Plan, then does that control. He said
the question can not be answered because the Initiative goes
back and forth, yet all three plans set forth basically the
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same use, and in the analysis Section 4.5 of the Initiative
was the deciding factor as to how the Initiative would
affect the Remainder where it makes three references to
section 6.4 which advised how to revise, amend or adjust the
Specific Plan, administrative revisions, administrative
adjustments, neither of which is believed to apply to the
Remainder, therefore with reference to section 6.4.2 the I
only way to amend the provisions concerning the Remainder is _
if it is consistent with the spirit, intent and purpose of
this Initiative, therefore the one reference to one hundred
twenty-five units is not felt to be enough to bind the city.
Councilmember Forsythe inquired if the City would have the
resources to implement the Subdivision Map Act with all of
its inconsistencies. The Assistant City Attorney advised
that the city does have the power to make certain findings
with respect to consideration of the Map, at such time as
there are public hearings before the Planning Commission and
the City Council there remains the power to apply the
Subdivision Map Act and apply conditions to mitigate certain
impacts with regard to public health and safety concerns,
yet if the Initiative is approved some of the power to
condition for aesthetic reasons as an example would no
longer exist. with regard to aesthetics, Councilmember
Forsythe noted that some homes could be as close as eight
feet from the street, the lot coverage could be fifty
percent, parking spaces would be covered spaces but need not
be garages, and the allowable height would be thirty-three
feet, and requested clarification as to the city's ability
to revise those standards. The Assistant city Attorney
confirmed that if the Initiative is approved those
conditions could be amended at a later date by vote of the
electorate. Councilmember Hastings pointed out that the I
administrative adjustments and revisions set forth in
Sections 6.4.1 through 6.4.3 are extensive and should
thoroughly be reviewed by the public, and Councilmember
Forsythe added that those sections allow the staff to relax
five development standards which deviate from standards that
exist in other areas of the City without notice or hearing.
Councilmember Hastings again asked for a motion to
reconsider the election documents to change the number of
units addressed by the Initiative from three hundred twenty-
nine single family units to four hundred fifty-four units.
The Assistant city Attorney stated that in his legal opinion
he did not believe the Specific Plan Initiative Ordinance
calls for anything more than three hundred twenty-nine
units, yet the Council has the discretion to reconsider and
change the language of the ballot question, however
recommended that such language be precise and track the
wording of the Initiative.
Vote on the motion to adopt Resolution Number 4010 as
amended to reflect the names of the members of the Council:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Forsythe, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None
Hastings Motion carried
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Councilman Laszlo moved to reconsider the election documents
with regard to the number of units referred to in the ballot
question. Councilmember Hastings seconded the motion. The
Assistant City Attorney said he felt this action would
unnecessarily complicate the question presented to the
voters, and if there is additional language it should
address the Housing Element and the designation of one
hundred twenty-five unit. He expressed belief that what the
Housing Element provides has been mischaracterized, and
again pointed out that it does not designate the number of
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units for the Remainder, rather the program to consider the
appropriateness of placing units on those parcels. The City
Clerk explained that the attachment to Ordinance Number 1326
is the summary of the Specific Plan Initiative Ordinance
that was contained with the entire text of the Initiative
Ordinance that was part of the Initiative petition, that the
summary was used as the attachment to the Ordinance
specifically for the purpose of the required three
publications of an Ordinance calling an election required by
the City Charter in order to avoid the necessity to publish
the entire text of the Initiative three times which would be
a considerable cost, however the request of the Council is
that the entire text of the Specific Plan Initiative
Ordinance be printed in the Sample Ballot Pamphlet for the
information of all voters. Councilmember Forsythe suggested
that the possibility of one hundred twenty-five units on the
Remainder and the five acre baseball diamond may be best
addressed in the arguments. Councilman Hunt cautioned
against making reference to four hundred fifty-four units on
the one hundred forty-nine acres. Councilman Laszlo
withdrew the motion to reconsider.
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4011 - PROVIDING FOR REBUTTAL ARGUMENTS
Resolution Number 4011 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, PROVIDING FOR THE FILING OF REBUTTAL ARGUMENTS
FOR CITY MEASURES SUBMITTED AT MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4011
was waived. Hunt moved, second by Wilson, to adopt
Resolution Number 4011.
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NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Forsythe, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None
Hastings Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4012 - CANVASS OF JUNE 4. 1991 ELECTION
Resolution Number 4012 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, ORDERING THAT THE CANVASS OF THE SPECIAL
MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 1991, BE
MADE BY THE CITY CLERK." By unanimous consent, full reading
of Resolution Number 4012 was waived. Hunt moved, second by
Wilson, to adopt Resolution Number 4012.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
Hastings moved, second by Laszlo; to direct that the Hellman
Ranch Specific Plan Amendment Initiative Ordinance be
printed in its entirety in the Sample Ballot Pamphlet.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
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It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 11:31 p.m.
Mayor Wilson excused herself from the meeting at 11:34 p.m.
due to illness.
The Council reconvened at 11:45 p.m. with Mayor ProTem
Laszlo calling the meeting to order.
Forsythe moved, second by Hunt, to appropriate $50,000 to
the Elections Account for the June 4th Special Municipal
Election.
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NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Hastings
Wilson
Motion carried
HELLMAN SPECIFIC PLAN COMMITTEE - CONCEPTUAL PLAN
The Assistant City Attorney reported the Council had
directed staff to prepare certain language in the event
placement of an additional measure on the ballot was
desired. The Director of Development Services suggested
that the Council may wish to consider a revision of the
draft language of the advisory measure to specify the size
of a hotel facility by possibly the number of rooms as
opposed to square footage. Councilmember Forsythe proposed
an advisory measure question to read: "In the event Measure
A-91 on this ballot (the Hellman Ranch Specific Plan
Initiative Ordinance) does not receive a majority vote,
should the city adopt a specific plan for the Hellman Ranch
calling for a public golf course, parkland, wetlands, and a
combination of the following elements to be located only in
areas to be seismically safe for habital structures: country
club, restaurant, conference center, retail center, hotel or
residential". Mayor ProTem Laszlo indicated he could not
support hotel use, and Councilmember Hastings said her
support would be based upon deletion of residential use.
Councilmember Forsythe pointed out that residential use
could be considered on the bluff area overlooking a golf
course, that the various options would allow a committee to
select and work with one or more of the alternatives, and it
will be necessary to have some type of development on the
bluff area to generate revenue.
"Recreational areas II was added as to the ballot question as
a possible use, and the statement "This is an advisory
measure that is not binding on the city Council" was also
added as required language. Councilmember Forsythe moved
approval of the advisory measure language as amended.
Councilmember Hastings again stated her preference for
retail use, rather than residential, on the bluff area, also
cited noise as a factor along Seal Beach Boulevard. Mayor
ProTem Laszlo seconded the motion for discussion, added that
his primary interest would be to promote between seventy to
eighty acres of wetlands with a golf course, which would
serve to eliminate housing on the hazardous areas of the
property. A member of the audience suggested a bed and
breakfast. Ms. Carla Watson, 1635 Crestview Avenue,
suggested that housing on certain areas of the property
should not be precluded, and that mixed uses are a
possibility. Discussion continued. Mr. Blake Hastings
suggested that the amount of acreage for wetlands and golf
course be determined first, then the means to pay for that
acreage as it relates to what would be placed on the balance
of the property, as an example a hotel with banquet
facilities would generate considerable revenue, also that a
plan would need to be developed that would generate monies
sufficient to pay for the greatest area of open space, and
pointed out that commercial and retail generates higher
revenue than residential. Ms. Francis Johnson, 125
Coastline Drive, said she has heard no reference to Gum
Grove Park in the Initiative, and that the height of the
units should be resolved before being placed on the ballot.
Councilman Hunt responded that eleven acres is designated
for Gum Grove Park in the Initiative. He stated further
that he could not support the advisory measure as he felt it
was misleading to the public, not economically feasible, and
there is insufficient area to accommodate the uses
mentioned. He said besides the Gum Grove Park acreage there
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is forty-one acres for wetlands, sixteen acres for parks,
six acres of roads, twenty acres for development, and the
remaining fifty-four acres is inadequate for a golf course,
stated there is insufficient draw to support retail, also
mentioned the competition that the new redevelopment area
development in Los Alamitos will have. Mayor ProTem Laszlo
suggested that the reference to housing be deleted, that the
hotel use remain, and since the measure is advisory possibly
residential units could be added at some point in the
future.
Councilmember Forsythe moved to amend the advisory ballot
measure question, designated as B-91, to set forth the uses
of country club, restaurant, conference center, retail, or
small scale hotel. Councilmember Hastings seconded the
motion.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None
Hunt
Wilson
Motion carried
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As a point of clarification, Measure B-91 as amended was
read in full as follows: "In.the event Measure A-91 on this
ballot (the Hellman Ranch Specific Plan Initiative
Ordinance) does not receive a majority vote, should the city
adopt a specific plan for the Hellman Ranch calling for a
public golf course, parkland, recreational areas, wetlands,
and a combination of the following elements to be located
only in areas to be seismically safe for habitable
structures: country club, restaurant, conference center,
retail, or small scale hotel? This is an advisory measure
that is not binding on the City Council. II
BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE
It was the consensus of the Council to hold this item over
for at least two weeks.
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CIVIL SERVICE BOARD POWERS
Mayor ProTem Laszlo mentioned that there seems to have been
a number of stress retirements in the city, and it was his
intent to ask that the civil Service Board look into the
stress issue to determine if there is a problem, the number
of cases, the basis for stress retirements of the employees
as a whole, not just the Police Department, and not
individual cases, and cited also the impact on the budget
when individuals are on stress leave or retirement. The
Acting City Manager noted it would not be advisable for the
Council to direct the Civil Service Board to review
disability or stress retirements because of the right of
appeal process to the civil Service Board. Councilman Hunt
cautioned that the Council not delegate authority to other
bodies that may be in violation of State law or interfere
with employee negotiations. Mayor ProTem Laszlo asked that
this matter be postponed until such time as it is requested
to be discussed further.
ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMMITTEE
Noting the discussion earlier in the meeting, Mayor ProTem
Laszlo requested that this matter be placed on the next
agenda.
CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "I" thru "Nil
Mayor ProTem Laszlo requested that Item "I" be removed from
the Consent Calendar, and Councilmember Hastings requested
Item "N" be removed.
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J. Approved the minutes of the regular meeting
of December 10, 1990.
K. Approved the minutes of the regular adjourned
meeting of December 17, 1990.
L.
Bids were received until February 4, 1991,
11:00 a.m. for Project Number 602, Water
Main Replacement/Reconstruction of Electric
Avenue Alley, at which time they were publicly
opened by the City Clerk as follows:
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Valencia Construction
Nobest, Inc.
Bobco Construction
R & L Sewers, Inc.
Williams Supply Co., Inc.
John T. Malloy
Robert Brkich corporation
Valverde Construction
Miramontes Construction Co.
$198,605.00
246,980.80
259,575.00
262,332.25
265,668.15
273,862.15
308,667.00
311,210.00
333,226.00
M.
Rejected the bid of Valencia Construction due to
a mistake in the bid proposal, and awarded the bid
to Nobest, Inc. in the amount of $246,980.80, and
authorized the Acting City Manager to execute the
contract on behalf of the city.
Approved the plans and specifications for
walkways at Eisenhower Park, Project Number 623,
and authorized the Acting City Manager to
advertise for bids.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM II I II - DEMANDS
Mayor ProTem Laszlo inquired about check number 82950
payable to the League of California Cities, check number
82956 payable to Tim Olsen, and check number 82929 payable
to U.S. Waterpolo. Staff advised that the first check
covered attendance of Mr. Orsini and Mr. curtis at the
Planning Conference in Monterey, however given the amount of
the check offered to review the backup and report to Council
the following day, that Tim Olsen was believed to be an
employee of the Police Department and the check covered
schooling in Sacramento, also offered to review the U. S.
Waterpolo payment. Councilmember Hastings inquired about a
check payable to Richard Walker. Staff reported Mr. Walker
provides sewer cleaning services. Mayor ProTem Laszlo moved
to approve regular demands numbered 82859 through 82997 in
the amount of $392,919.01 and payroll demands numbered 44259
through 44440 in the amount of $209,379.69 as approved by I
the Finance Committee, with the exception of checks numbered
.82950, 82956, and 82989 to be further reviewed by the Acting
City Manager and dispersed with his discretion, and that
warrants for the remaining demands be drawn on the Treasury
for same.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
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ITEM "N" - 1990 FEDERAL CENSUS - CHALLENGE
The Director of Development Services presented the staff
report, specifically noting that the 1990 Federal Census
indicates a population of 25,098, a decrease of 2,252 from
the January 1st estimate from the State Department of
Finance of 27,350, and from a review of the preliminary
census numbers most of the population loss appears to be
from the Leisure World area, and as a comparison the 1980
Leisure World population was 8,828 and the 1990 figure
decreased to 6,652 or a drop of 1,800 persons in the Leisure
World area based upon the census figures. He noted that in
talking with representatives of the Golden Rain Foundation
their figures as of July 1, 1990 indicate 8,450 Leisure
World residents. He said the concern of the city is that a
number of State revenue sources are based on the population
of the City, and if the population is in fact miscounted
that would result in a substantial revenue loss to the city
on a continuing basis, approximately $56 per person, or
$80,000 to $100,000 annually over a ten year period. The
Director reported to conduct a challenge of the census
figures there are two agencies that would conduct a Special
Census, the State Department of Finance and/or the U. S.
Census Bureau, neither agency having the criteria or costs
in place at this time for conducting a Special Census,
however that information may be available by July or August
of this year. He recalled that a Special Census in the city
of Bellflower in 1973 was somewhere in the area of $20,000
to $30,000 for a population of approximately 55,000. The
Director reported that as a result of the initial challenge
of the census figures there was an adjustment from 24,400
persons to 25,098, however it is still felt that the figures
are substantially low. Councilman Hunt pointed out that a
recent tally of registered voters shows 7,105 therefore it
is felt the population figure is well over that, also said
there must be a means to recount an area rather than the
entire city. The Director clarified that a smaller area of
the City can be counted, however the Department of Finance
will not accept a portion count as an adjustment for the
entire community. The Director stated also that the
information regarding a Special Census will be provided the
Council as soon as it is available. Hastings moved, second
by Laszlo, to hold this matter over until the additional
information is received.
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NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
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CONSOLIDATED PUBLIC HEARINGS - ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 1-91 -
MINIMUM LOT SIZE - OLD TOWN - RMD and RHD - SUBDIVISION TEXT
AMENDMENT 1-91 - PARK LAND DEDICATION FEES
The Director of Development Services suggested that the two
items be considered concurrently under a consolidated public
hearing as they are interrelated. The City Clerk certified
that notice of the,public hearings had been advertised as
required by law, and reported no communications received
either for or against these items. The Director of
Development Services presented the staff reports and
recommendations of the Planning Commission. He noted that
the proposed change to the Subdivision Ordinance is to
establish a different criteria for subdivisions that create
fifty lots or less, a flat fee of $10,000 per lot created,
as opposed to current Code that requires either land
dedication or a fee based upon a certain ratio of land area
per residential housing unit constructed, and as brought
forth during consideration of Variance 1-90, a request to
create two twenty-five foot wide lots of a fifty foot wide
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lot, in that case the park land dedication fee would have
been $156,000 or $78,000 per lot. He reported the second
component of ZTA 1-91 proposes to decrease the minimum lot
size in Old Town of Residential Medium and High Density
Zones from the existing five thousand square feet to two
thousand five hundred square feet, bringing the minimum lot
size into conformity with the city's density requirement as I
set forth in the General Plan and city Code. The Director
explained that due to the provisions of the existing '~ .
ordinances and the high park dedication fee, an individual
having a lot of a size where more than one unit could be
developed, there is an incentive to develop that property
with as many rental units as the Code will allow rather than
a single family unit. He noted that there has been no park
dedication fees collected since 1975, quite likely because
of the high dedication fee and significantly increased land
values. He pointed out that there is a provision of the
Subdivision Ordinance that exempts the conversion of rental
units to condos, if those units have been in existence for
five years or more, from the payment of any park dedication
fees, as an example, rental units are constructed, remain as
such for a period of five years, are converted to condos,
sold as owner-occupied homes under the condo conversion,
realizing a substantial return on the original investment,
yet the City has no ability to collect the park dedication
fee at any time. The Director explained the intent of the
Planning Commission was to lower the minimum lot size back
to two thousand five hundred feet being that ninety-one
percent of the lots in Old Town in the RMD and RHD zones are
twenty-five feet in width, current zoning providing for one
house per twenty-five foot lot, and the Planning commission
felt that the park dedication fee should be reduced I
accordingly to encourage the construction of the single
family units.
The Director suggested change to section l(c) of proposed
Ordinance 1329 to delete the word "will" to read "Staff
prepared an initial environmental assessment...", also noted
that the Planning commission had recommended that the park
dedication fee be reviewed on a regular basis, suggesting
every five years, the City Attorney agreeing with that
recommendation, however it was that directive could be part
of the Ordinance rather than being in the Subdivision
Ordinance. Councilmember Hastings pointed out that most
corner lots are twenty-seven and one half feet wide, and by
implementing this change it will essentially make the
twenty-five foot wide corner lots legal nonconforming. The
Director responded that if there are existing twenty-five
foot corner lots they are already nonconforming under
existing provisions of the Code which requires a minimum
fifty-five foot wide corner lot, and the intent is to not
increase the number of nonconforming lots in the community,
noting that there is a subsequent provision of the Code for
corner lots that states the width of the lot would be
increased by ten percent of the minimum required width,
which applies throughout the city. Counc1lmember Hastings 'I
said she is aware of twenty-five foot wide corner lots in
Old Town, therefore there should be a specific provision to
reflect minimizing those lots. The Director said he
understood the request to be for an exception for the RMD
and RHD zones in Old Town from the additional ten percent,
yet since those corner lots are presently nonconforming it
would be necessary to refer that matter to the Planning
Commission for consideration. Discussion continued. The
Director suggested that if the Council so desired, the
Ordinances could be introduced at this time, and the corner
lot issue could be referred to the Planning commission for
an amendment.
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Mayor ProTem Laszlo invited members of the audience wishing
to speak to this matter to come to the microphone and state
their name and address for the record. Ms. Barbara Antoci,
Seal Beach, stated her home was constructed in 1978, that
she had not been informed that it was legal nonconforming,
however the Planning Department at that time had stated it
was not legal nonconforming, and inquired of the reason why
park dedication fees had not been collected. She noted her
corner lot is twenty-five by one hundred feet, a divided
fifty foot lot. The Director responded that he could not
answer why the fees were not imposed during that time frame,
the last park dedication fee payment that was a matter of
record was on 8th Street in 1975'. He explained that there
is a difference between a nonconforming lot and a
nonconforming residence, the nonconforming residence would
exist if, as an example, there were not proper setbacks,
parking, or over lot coverage, also that the term
nonconforming does not mean it is illegal, it simply means
that at the time it was built it met all the requirements of
the City, and there would be nothing that would prohibit one
from building a new structure as long as current Code
requirements are met. He added that the twenty-five by one
hundred foot lot is not illegal, it is a buildable lot, yet
it is nonconforming in that it does not now meet what is the
City's minimum size of a fifty foot wide lot, ,that
nonconforming means that one can not come to the city and
request to subdivide that lot into smaller parcels because
it presently does not meet the minimum lot size. Mr. Kurt
Dimere, 242 - 5th Street, stated the Director had expressed
his comments, he spoke for the Zoning Text Amendment and the
construction of single family units, he offered that current
Code would have allowed him to built a much higher density
than he had chosen to build. There being no further
comments, Mayor ProTem Laszlo declared the public hearing
closed.
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In response to a question posed, the Director reported from
1955 to 1966 the City required a minimum lot size of six
thousand five hundred square feet for the R-3 zone, five
thousand five hundred square feet in the R-2 zone, in 1966
it was change to a minimum of seven thousand square feet in
both zones, and in 1974 it was changed to the current five
thousand square feet.
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ORDINANCE NUMBER 1329 - ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 1-91 - PARK
LAND DEDICATION FEES - RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS
Ordinance Number 1329 was presented to Council for first
reading entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT (ZTA) 1-
91, APPROVING SUBDIVISION TEXT AMENDMENT 1-91, AMENDING
SECTION 21-32 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH AMENDING
THE PARK LAND DEDICATION FEE REQUIRED IN CONJUNCTION WITH A
RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION OF FIFTY (50) OR FEWER LOTS." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Ordinance Number 1329 was
waived. Hastings moved, second by Forsythe, to approve the
introduction of Ordinance Number 1329 as amended, and that
it be passed to second reading.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
ORDINANCE NUMBER 1330 - ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 1-91 -
DECREASING MINIMUM LOT SIZE - RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM/RESIDENTIAL
HIGH DENSITY ZONES - PLANNING DISTRICT ONE
Ordinance Number 1330 was presented to Council for first
reading entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
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CITY OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT (ZTA) 1-
91, AMENDING SECTIONS 28-701, 28-801 AND 28-2301 OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH TO DECREASE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE
IN THE RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY ZONES (RMD) AND
(RHD) OF PLANNING DISTRICT I FROM THE EXISTING 5,000 SQUARE
FEET TO 2,500 SQUARE FEET." By unanimous consent, full
reading of Ordinance Number 1330 was waived. Hastings I
moved, second by Forsythe, to approve the introduction of
Ordinance Number 1330 as amended, and that it be passed to
second reading.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
The Assistant City Attorney noted that the amendment, as
requested by Councilmember Hastings, would be presented to
the Planning commission for consideration.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 1328 - COUNCILMANIC DISTRICT
BOUNDARIES
It was the consensus of the Council to hold over until the
next meeting proposed Ordinance Number 1328 entitled "AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, A CHARTER
CITY, AMENDING THE COUNCILMANIC DISTRICT BOUNDARIES OF
COUNCILMANIC DISTRICTS 2 AND 4 OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH AND
CORRECTING THE EXISTING LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS OF COUNCILMANIC
DISTRICT 1, COUNCILMANIC DISTRICT 3, AND COUNCILMANIC
DISTRICT 5, AND AMENDING SECTION 2-70 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF SEAL BEACH. II
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4015 - HONORING DENIS THOMAS - FINANCE
DIRECTOR
Resolution Number 4015 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, HONORING
AND COMMENDING DENIS THOMAS FOR HIS MORE THAN TWENTY-TWO
YEARS OF DEDICATED AND LOYAL SERVICE." By unanimous
consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4015 was waived.
Forsythe moved, second by Hastings, to adopt Resolution
Number 4015 as presented.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4016 - SIGNATURE AUTHORIZATION
Resolution Number 4016 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF. THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, PROVIDING AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN DEMANDS AND
CHECKS FOR THE WITHDRAWAL OF FUNDS ON DEPOSIT WITH THE BANK
OF AMERICA, SECURITY PACIFIC NATIONAL BANK, WELLS FARGO BANK
AND FIRST INTERSTATE BANK; AND AUTHORIZING ALTERNATE
SIGNATURES AND RESCINDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 3987." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4016
was waived. Hastings moved, second by Hunt, to adopt
Resolution Number 4016 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4017 - INSTALLATION OF HANDICAPPED
RESTROOMS - PROJECT NUMBER 610 - MARINA COMMUNITY CENTER
Resolution Number 4017 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED AS TO PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT #610 - INSTALLATION OF
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HANDICAPPED RESTROOMS AT MARINA COMMUNITY CENTER IN
ACCORDANCE WITH A CONTRACT ENTERED INTO BETWEEN DOUBLE J
CONTRACTORS AND THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH." By unanimous
consent, full reading of Resolution Number 4017 was waived.
In response to Council, the Acting city Manager reported it
was his understanding that as of this date the contractor
had completed replacing several broken tiles and certain
lighting fixtures that were his responsibility, that the
handicapped restrooms were funded by grant monies, the
asbestos removal from the General Fund. Hastings moved,
second by Forsythe, to adopt Resolution Number 4017 as
presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 4018 - ASBESTOS ABATEMENT - PROJECT NUMBER
620 - MARINA COMMUNITY CENTER and RESOLUTION NUMBER 4019 -
ASBESTOS ABATEMENT - PROJECT NUMBER 621 - NORTH SEAL BEACH
COMMUNITY CENTER
Resolutions Numbered 4018 and 4019 were presented to Council
entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
SEAL BEACH DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED AS TO PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT #620 - ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AT
MARINA PARK COMMUNITY CENTER IN ACCORDANCE WITH A CONTRACT
ENTERED INTO BETWEEN DIVERSIFIED ASBESTOS TECHNOLOGY
COMPANY, INC., AND THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH" and "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED AS TO PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT #620 - ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AT
NORTH SEAL BEACH COMMUNITY CENTER IN ACCORDANCE WITH A
CONTRACT ENTERED INTO BETWEEN DIVERSIFIED ASBESTOS
TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, INC., AND THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH. II By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolutions Numbered 4018
and 4019 were waived. Hastings moved, second by Forsythe,
to adopt Resolutions Number 4018 and 4019 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4020 - PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY - TURNPOCKET
CLOSURE - EASTER PARADE
Resolution Number 4020 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
APPROVING THE CLOSURE OF THE NORTH AND SOUTH BOUND
TURNPOCKETS LOCATED AT THE MAIN STREET/PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY
INTERSECTION." By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolution Number 4020 was waived. Hastings moved, second
by Forsythe, to adopt Resolution number 4020 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
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ORDINANCE NUMBER 1331 - WATER CONSERVATION
Ordinance Number 1331 was presented to Council for first
reading entitled "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
ADDING CHAPTER 26A OF THE SEAL BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE TO
CONSERVE THE AVAILABLE WATER SUPPLY AND TO PROTECT THE
PUBLIC WELFARE AND SAFETY." By unanimous consent, full
reading of Ordinance Number 1331 was waived. Hastings
moved, second by Hunt, to approve the introduction of
Ordinance Number 1331 and that it be passed to second
reading.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 4021 - C.A.R.E.S. PUBLIC FORUM
Resolution Number 4021 was presented to Council and read in
full by Councilmember Forsythe entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE 'I'
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH RECOGNIZING THE
SECOND ANNUAL SEAL BEACH C.A.R.E.S. PUBLIC FORUM." It was
suggested that the Resolution could also be placed in the
form of a Proclamation and provided to the Council for next
meeting. Forsythe moved, second by Hastings, to adopt
Resolution Number 4021 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
ORDINANCE NUMBER 1332 - EXPANSION - SINGLE FAMILY NON-
CONFORMING RESIDENCES - MODIFICATION OF ORDINANCE 1321 -
URGENCY
Ordinance Number 1332 was presented to Council for first
reading entitled "AN INTERIM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL
BEACH AMENDING INTERIM ORDINANCE NUMBER 1321, PROVIDING AN
EXCEPTION FOR CERTAIN NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING
EXPANSION REQUESTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 28-2407.A.2(i)
OR SECTION 28-2407.A.2(j) AND DECLARING THE URGENCY
THEREOF." The Director of Development Services presented
the staff report, specifically noting that the proposed
Ordinance is the result of a request of Council at the
February 11th meeting, an amendment to Ordinance Number
1321, and will exempt only single family non-conforming I
residences from the moratorium which are non-conforming due
to some existing situation other than density or parking,
and does not apply to duplexes or triplexes. Hastings
moved, second by Forsythe, to adopt Urgency Ordinance Number
1332.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY SIGNS
Mayor ProTem Laszlo asked that this item be held over until
the next meeting. Councilmember Hastings requested a
definition of public right-of-way. The Director explained
it is basically tQe public dedicated streets, sidewalk area,
planter area between the sidewalk and curb, or an area where
the city has an easement, also noted that the citizens do
not pay taxes on a city right-of-way such as the parkway.
He explained further that if it is the determination of the
Council to allow signs in the right-of-way area that they be
located in that landscaped area which is not detrimental to
health and public safety. with regard to allowing the
placement of signs in public parks, the Director stated the
recommendation of staff is that there be no change to
current Code, which does not allow signs in any public
right-of-way, and the only reference to fees in the staff
report has to do with a deposit to insure that the signs
will be removed.
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REOUEST - CHAMBER OF COMMERCE - MEETING SCHEDULE
It was requested that this item be held over until all
members of the council are present.
SEAL BEACH CITIZENS UNITED
It was noted that this matter had been discussed earlier in
the meeting.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor ProTem Laszlo declared Oral Communications open. Ms.
Beverly Casares, Seal Beach, spoke in favor of Council
Concerns being listed first on the agenda, also that the
Closed Session listed at the end of the agenda be deleted
since Closed Sessions are now held prior to the regular
meeting, that the topic of the Closed Session be printed,
also that city staff rather than the contract risk
management firm process workers compensation matters. She
suggested that the Acting City Manager prepare whistle
blower legislation in the interest of all employees for
consideration. Councilmember Hastings inquired if the City
has an policy to protect employee jobs in the event they
bring information forward. The Assistant city Attorney said
he believed there is State legislation that would protect
employee jobs that would likewise apply to the city. It was
the consensus of the Council to request the City Attorney to
research and prepare such ordinance for consideration.
T~ere being no further comments, Mayor ProTem Laszlo
declared Oral Communications closed.
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CLOSED SESSION
The Assistant City Attorney announced that the city Council
would meet in Closed Session pursuant to Government Code
Section 54956.9 to discuss pending litigation in the case of
Mola Development Corporation versus City of Seal Beach, and
a personnel matter. It was the consensus of the Council to
adjourn to Closed Session at 1:35 a.m. The Council
reconvened at 2:04 a.m. with Mayor ProTem Laszlo calling the
meeting to order. The Assistant city Attorney reported the
Council had discussed the matters previously announced and
gave direction regarding the pending litigation.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Council to adjourn until Monday,
March 4, 1991 at 9:00 a.m. for a budget workshop. The
meeting was adjourned by unanimous consent at 2:05 a.m.
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Mayor
Attest:
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Seal Beach, California
March 4, 1991
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 9:02 a.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.