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Council. There being no further comments, Mayor Laszlo
declared Oral Communications closed.
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ADJOURNMENT
Laszlo moved, second by Wilson, to cancel the regular
meeting of October 14th, that the October 14th meeting be
adjourned to October 21st for a redistricting workshop, that
the October 21st meeting be adjourned until October 28th at
6:00 p.m. to hold a Closed Session, and that the public
hearing to consider redistricting be called for October
28th.
AYES:
NOES:
Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
It was the consensus of the Council to adjourn the meeting
at 9:32 p.m.
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Approved:
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Mayor
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Attest:
Seal Beach, California
October 21, 1991
The City Council of the city of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 7:02 p.m. with Mayor Laszlo calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Laszlo
Councilmembers Doane, Forsythe, Hastings
Absent:
Councilmember Wilson
It was the consensus of the Council to excuse the absence of
Councilmember Wilson from this meeting.
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Also present: Mr. Bankston, city Manager
Mrs. Yeo, city Clerk
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Forsythe moved, second by Doane, to waive the reading in
full of all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to
the waiver of reading shall be deemed to be given by all
Councilmembers after reading of the title unless specific
request is made at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
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Mayor Laszlo announced that the intent of the workshop
session was to discuss and receive comments with regard to
redistricting proposals, specifically relating to Districts
One and Three, and noted the display of district boundaries
as adopted in 1964, 1967, 1971, and 1981.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS I
Mayor Laszlo declared Oral Communications open. Ms. Phyllis
Crosby, 1737 Harbor Way, brought attention to the members of
her Wieblo Pack present in the audience to observe the
meeting as part of their Citizenship Badge. There being no
further comments, Mayor Laszlo declared Oral Communications
closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Forsythe moved, second by Hastings, to approve the
recommended action for the sole item on the Consent
Calendar.
A. Approved regular demands numbered
85508 through 85671 in the amount of
$801,722.57 as approved by the
Finance Committee, and authorized
warrants to be drawn on the Treasury
for same.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None
Wilson Motion carried
REDISTRICTING DISCUSSION
The city Manager reported receipt of a communication dated I
October 18th from Ms. Sheri Ross, President of the Surfs ide
Colony Community Services Tax District which he read for the
record as follows:
"with regard to the recommendations of the City
Council on the subject of redistricting -
The Surfs ide Colony Community Services Tax
District is strongly opposed to any plan
which would result in a division of Surfside
Colony into two districts.
Surfs ide Colony Community Services Tax
District acts for the benefit of a
community regarded as a single cohesive
beachfront residential development and
any division of the community would result
in splintering of united community goals
and objectives.
A redistricting must treat Surfs ide Colony
as a whole in order to preserve the Colony's
basic integrity."
He noted receipt of three other communications with similar I
comments. Councilmember Hastings read for the record the
referenced communications from Mr. Stephen Rowe, the
Surfside Colony storm Water Protection District, and Mr. E.
G. Salegui. Mayor Laszlo reported the Redistricting
Committee successfully completed the redistricting of
Districts Two, Four and Five with respective populations of
4911, 5024, and 4927. It was clarified that of the four
modified proposals of Councilmember Hastings, two reflected
a split of Surfs ide and two did not. As a point of
information the City Manager noted that the process of
conducting an election would become more difficult should
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Surfs ide be split, also there is some question as to whether
the area could in fact be divided.
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Mr. Gordon Shanks, 215 Surf Place, Chairman of the
Redistricting Committee, stated the boundaries of Districts
Two, Four and Five appeared to be so clear and logical that
the Committee had not prepared alternatives, and presented a
brief description of the five alternative proposals that had
been prepared for consideration for Districts One and Three,
also noted the Committee did not find the splitting of
Surfs ide as a viable solution. Councilmember Hastings
mentioned that District Three was reduced by six hundred
twenty-five persons with the removal of Leisure World which
in turn means five hundred thirty-six persons are needed
from Old Town and Surfs ide to bring the districts into
balance. Councilmember Forsythe pointed out the need for
the districts to be as equitable as possible utilizing the
census statistical data as mandated, noted that a portion of
the Old Town area has been in District Three for a number of
years, that every issue that comes before the Council is
considered and voted upon by all five representatives, and
stated she would oppose a split of Surfside.
Members of the audience were invited to present their views
on the various redistricting proposals, summarized below.
Ms. Shirley Leddy, 16th Street, spoke for Proposal "C" as
representing the goals of the Redistricting Committee and
placing Surfs ide in District Three; Mr. Salegui, A-57,
Surfside, voiced his objection to the concept of splitting
Surfside; Mr. Bob Montgomery, President of the Surfs ide
Board of Directors, said he believed there was agreement
that Surfs ide should not be split and should remain in
District One; Mr. Laird Mueller, 8th Street, stated his
preference that historic Old Town remain intact and Surfs ide
become part of District Three; Mr. Bruce Stark, Seal Beach,
said he felt Proposal "C" would be the best for the
community by following more natural lines; Mr. Joe Orsini,
Seal Beach, offered his opinion that Surfside should not be
split, and suggested that Hastings Proposal A, modification
2, be given consideration; Mr. Mark soukup, 16th Street,
said as the District One representative to the Committee he
had been involved with developing Proposal A, and suggested
its further modification to place the triangle area adjacent
to Marina Drive and nearest Pacific Coast Highway in
District one, while also retaining surfside, Zoeter, and
Main Street in that District; Ms. Mitzi Morton, Old Town,
spoke for either Hastings Proposal A, modification 2, or
Proposal C, stating it may be advantageous to have two
Council representatives with interest in the city's
beachfront; Mr. Charles Antos, 17th Street, agreed that
Surfs ide should not be split, disagreed with Proposals A, B,
0, A-1, A-2, A-3, and B-1 that split existing neighborhoods,
however stated to transfer an area in its entirety may not
be a bad idea, specifically in the case of Surfs ide there
would be two representatives of coastal areas working in
concert with regard to shoreline problems; Mr. Gordon
Shanks, speaking as a resident, recalled that Old Town was
once the area south of Pacific Coast Highway, acknowledged
that portions have been placed in another district as a
result of reapportionment, that each district has its
particular problems, stated his opposition to splitting
Surfside, however if need be it should be shifted as an
entire area, and suggested that the direction should be to
balance the load of responsibilities of the districts; and
Ms. Dorothy Whyte, College Park East resident, pointed out
that until now college Park East was split for a number of
years, College Park West and the Rossmoor Condos have
remained intact, and offered that it may be necessary for
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Old Town to lose some area. She explained that the
Committee meetings were open to the public yet only one
person had input, that the Committee attempted to keep
neighborhoods together, that pursuant to Council direction
alternative proposals were developed as well as advantages"
and disadvantages of each in lieu of a majority and minority
repor~.
with regard to percentage differences between districts, the
city Manager explained that neither the Elections Code or
the Charter set forth specific percentages, however there
have been court challenges dealing with the equity of
population between districts and upon review of those cases
it appears there could be a potential for challenge if the
numbers are much beyond two percent, also the percentage
difference between the most and least populated districts
must be taken into consideration. Councilman Doane
questioned why there was no discussion of Proposal E, that
plan having a difference of eighty, addresses the issue of
keeping Surfs ide intact, and only slightly moves the
existing boundary of the neighborhood that is presently in
District Three, which he said appears to be a reasonable
compromise. councilmember Hastings stated Proposal E would
transfer a greater portion of historic Old Town to District
Three where taking a portion of the east side of Old Town
would not be as great. Councilmember Forsythe said she did
not believe that there is or will be any intent to cause '
anything adverse to historic Old Town, again made reference
to the consideration of issues by all five Council
representatives, read the redistricting criteria as set
forth in the Charter, stated her uncertainty as to
understanding and dealing with the issues associated with
Surfside, and indicated that Proposal E would be a more
logical boundary than to project into another separate area
of downtown.
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It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 8:41 p.m. The Council reconvened at
8:50 p.m. with Mayor Laszlo calli~g the meeting to order.
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Ms. Georgiana Brown, 212 - 14th Street, spoke regarding
Proposal C, noted that there are presently incursions into
Old Town and by placing the entire of Surfs ide in District
Three additional and seemingly arbitrary incursions into Old
Town may be prevented which she said discourages community
interest, yet would provi~e the coastal areas two
representatives that may be beneficial in the future with
regard to development of Anaheim Bay and enhancement of the
beach areas. Ms. Brown agreed however with Councilmember
Forsythe that Proposal E would merely increase the community
area of District Three rather than make further incursions
into the Old Town area. Councilmember Forsythe reiterated
that the criteria and guidelines for the Commit~ee were to
maintain as concisely as possible the existing boundary
lines, proposal E does just that, stated that District Three
presently has diverse areas of varied interests, indicated I:
an uneasiness with assuming an entirely new area with
different problems, and likewise to move an area along Seal
Beach Boulevard was not in compliance with the Committee
guidelines. Councilmember Hastings said she felt the
guidelines were ignored in dealing with Districts Two, Four
and Five, questioned what difference there would be if the
same modifications were applied to Districts One and Three,
indicated that it would not be her preference to lose the
Surfs ide area, therefore the modified proposals were
developed to either divide Surfside or maintain that area
intact. At the request of Council, the city Clerk explained
that should Surfside be divided, two separate voting
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precincts would be necessary, one for each of the districts,
consisting of approximately one hundred fifty registered
voters each, likewise there is limited area to locate
polling places as well as a problem with obtaining election
officers, a similar situation with the Seal Beach Boulevard
proposed boundaries where the voters of that area would
either vote at McGaugh School or a separate polling place
would be established for a small number of voters at st.
Anne's Church or other downtown location. with regard to ..
Proposal E, the Clerk explained that Surfs ide would continue
to vote as a unit within Surfs ide and the additional voters
within the area of Central Avenue and sixth street would
vote at a location that is traditionally used for local
elections. Mr. Soukup suggested that Surfs ide would pose no
more a burden to District Three than had Leisure World, and
suggested that Surfside present their views. Mr. Stark
referred to a previous comment regarding Council votes,
noted that actions of the Council generally require three
votes rather than the five mentioned, and again suggested
that two coastal area representatives could be of benefit to
Surfside. Mr. Bob Montgomery, Surfside, acknowledged the
value of the input from this workshop, however stated the
desire of Surfs ide to reserve their final opinion until the
next meeting and in the meantime the matter would be
discussed further with the residents and Boardmembers.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communications.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn until Monday, October 28th at 6:00 p.m. to meetU
in Closed Session.
The meeting was adjourned
unanimous consent at 9:08 p.m.
Clerk and ex-of
of Seal Beach
the
Approved:
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Mayor
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Attest:
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Seal Beach, California
October 28, 1991
The Seal Beach city Council regular adjourned session
scheduled for 6:00 p.m. was cancelled due to the lack of
items for discussion in Closed Session.
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ne M. Yeo, City
y of Seal Beach