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Councilmember Hastings said although she would be unable to
attend the meeting, Mr. Kredell and Mr. Lyon would be in
attendance. Councilman Doane said he found the number of
boards, commissions, and committees in the City to be
confusing, including the membership and their
responsibilities. He suggested that the Council should
aware of what the committees are doing, work with them, be
provided with copies of the minutes, attend their meetings,
and if a committee is no longer necessary it should be
disbanded. He commended the city Manager for developing a
policy manual in which the duties and responsibilities,
meeting times, etc. of the various boards, commissions, and
committees will be addressed.
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~ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communications.
CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
ADJOURNMENT
Hastings moved, second by Forsythe, to adjourn the meeting
to the following day, November 26th, at 10:00 a.m. to meet
with Senator Bergeson.
AYES:
NOES:
Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting' at 11:18 p.m.
Approved:
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November 26, 1991
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 10:10 a.m. with Mayor Laszlo calling
the meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Mayor Laszlo
Councilmembers Doane, Wilson
councilmembers Forsythe, Hastings
Wilson moved, second by Doane, to excuse the absence of
Councilmembers Forsythe and Hastings from this meeting.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Doane, Laszlo, Wilson
None
Forsythe, Hastings
Motion carried
Also present: Mr. Bankston, City Manager
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
INFORMAL DISCUSSION - SENATOR BERGESON I
Mayor Laszlo and the members of the Council welcomed Senator
Bergeson. Senator Bergeson expressed appreciation for the
opportunity for an informal discussion, citing the -
importance of a good relationship between the cities and the
State, and invited input from the Council to assist her
efforts on behalf of the City'S interests. The Senator made
reference to the financial crisis of the State in the past
year, a $14.3 billion deficit, services exceeding revenues,
m~ny of those services outside the control of the
legislature, where health and welfare matters, as an
example, the federal government has considerable influence
on the State, and prison population, increased school
population and priorities for education being just a few of
the critical areas where change is needed. She noted the
need to work with local communities to achieve more
flexibility, elimination of mandates, etc., stated it is
necessary to make it easier for business where they are now
leaving the St~te as a result of over-regulation, workers
compensation and the cost of health insurance, mentioning
also the need for restructuring land use planning. Senator
Bergeson said the projection for this fiscal year is not
improved, tax revenues are down approximately $500 million
at this point and a potential of $3 billion deficit, which
will necessitate further reduction of services from the
current budget, those cuts likely in the area of health and I
welfare and possibly education. She stated the realignment
program, where revenues and responsibilities are given to
the counties, should help the cities in some regards, and
through greater inter-agency cooperation it is hoped that
there will be better control and more flexibility in
providing certain services. with regard to workers
compensation, the Senator acknowledged that stress related
claims have increased seven hundred percent in the past two
years, that ten percent of the stress claimed must be
attributed to the workplace, noted the workers comp reform
that was recently attempted was not successful, however said
she believed there will be some progress in the next
legislative session. She suggested that the City could, by
Resolution, set forth the impact and problems associated
with workers comp, and make a demand on the legislature to
take some action. with regard to the local community
controlling its own growth, the Senator noted that she does
not support the regional government concept nor State
controlled planning as is the process in some states, where
approval of projects must receive State approval. She
stated she has proposed legislation that would require
voluntary cooperation among existing local agencies, or
areas of regional planning, with regard to transportation,
water, air quality, habitats, etc. where the impacts and I
concerns of a project go beyond a particular city, and in
turn provide a means of funding infrastructure with the
likes of developer fees, etc. She reported the Governor has
an inter-agency cabinet that is studying growth management
in the State, the economy dependent on planning and growth,
and if there is no investment for infrastructure with an
incentive for private capitalization there would be an
inability to create or maintain economic activity within the
State. She noted that there is a need to establish economic
and environmental goals, and again stressed her viewpoint
that there is a need for communication and cooperation
between local jurisdictions and agencies, the local and
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state League organizations as well, which will also serve to
reserve local powers with regard to planning issues.
Regarding the need for and powers of the Coastal Commission,
the Senator explained that the Commission was to be a
temporary body pending the adoption of Coastal Plans and
thereafter the cities were to maintain their controls, she
reported the Governor is looking at duplication of efforts
by the various governmental agencies and possibly developing
a single standard for permits, etc. She said the
bureaucracy of the system at this time has served to stymie
economic growth, and that small business can not survive
with the ever changing legislation. She cited a potential
problem with municipal bonds that are issued under a certain
project buildout where there is a possibility of default
should there be a reverse of approval requlations. Once
again with regard to the Coastal Commission, Senator
Bergeson concurred that there is need for coastal
protection, yet the original intent was for that to be left
to the local governments once their Plans were approved, and
pointed out that a problem of the Commission is that it has
no accountability, and it has been found that they have
issued unfair decisions.
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Mr. Ron Kredell, Seal Way, expressed his feeling that this
most westerly portion of Orange County has been neglected by
the County and the State, specifically with regard to sand
erosion and replenishment, the result of the federal
government construction of the breakwater and jetties. He
explained that approximately thirty-five years ago the city
relinquished its right to periodic sand replenishment in
lieu of the groin, therefore the responsibility for annual
replenishment of the east beach fell on the city, yet the --
city has been financially unable to do so. He noted that
the Moffatt & Nichol study cited the federal government as
the cause of the erosion, approximately seven thousand cubic
yards of sand annually, and in order to protect the adjacent
properties a sand berm has been built for approximately
twenty-six years, in place from October until spring. Mr.
Kredell reported the Moffatt & Nichol study cited extension
of the groin and replenishment of the sand as an erosion
corrective measure as well as a submerged breakwater to
totally arrest the problem, yet the cost was approximately
$3 million. He noted that the currents transport the sand
from around the jetty and the east beach to the west beach,
however said that sand is too fine for replenishment
purposes and a coarser sand is necessary, proposed that to
tie into the federal government Surfs ide sand
dredging/replenishment program would be a means to alleviate
the erosion problem, yet he had been informed by Congressman
Rohrabacher that even if a study were initiated immediately,
the earliest that sand could be realized would be five
years. Senator Bergeson inquired as to what extent the city
has pursued the erosion problem through involvement with the
county, Corps of Engineers, etc., in pursuit of grants or ~
tie into other programs, suggesting that there is need to
establish a broad political and financial base to accomplish
the goal. Mr. Kredell noted that the corps surveys this
beach about every two years, however said a
resident/surveyor has kept on-going records of the erosion
and associated problems. Mr. Robert Montgomery, Surfside,
concurred that construction of the jetties have caused the
erosion problems, said that even before the 1940's Seal
Beach was the first feeder beach for Orange County, and that
the severe erosion problem in Surfside is known to have been
caused by the Navy Weapons station jetty, and it is likewise
known that the sand from Surfs ide feeds the entire south
coast to Newport. He reported that the Corps surveys the
Surfs ide beach periodically, yet their concern is not with
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the closeness of the sand to the homes, rather the average
amount of sand on ~he beaches overall to the south, and if
deemed necessary the sand has been-replenished about every
five to six years, and offered the willingness of Surfs ide
to support the City's participation in their program in
order to obtain sand to replenish the east beach and reduce
the related costs, noting that the easterly portion of the
main beach is in need of about one million cubic yards.
Senator Bergeson offered to look at the options that could
be considered, noting that local and state funding is an ._
unlikely option at this time, however encouraged the City to
work with or through the various agencies or entities that
are looking at the sand erosion problem and to identify any
sources of funding. Mr. Kredell pointed out again that to
go through the Corps would take at least five years, for the
city to attempt replenishment the cost would be about $10
per cubic yard of sand, the funds for which are not
available, and suggested that the best resolution would be
to again be tied into the federal program with Surfside. He
also knowledged having given thought to taking down the
berm, allowing the ocean to damage the homes, as a means of
calling attention to the problem. The Senator said although
the State may not be a lead agency in this situ~tion, there
could be requests for involvement of the State Lands
Commission, Harbors, Beaches and Parks, Orange and San Diego
Counties, the Fish and Game, that support should be sought
from the local federal representatives, and that project
mitigation may be another option. She stressed the
importance of having a plan with overall impact which will
in turn enhance the opportunity for funding, also suggested
that a meeting of all of the City'S representatives be
called to discuss such plan and seek a commitment, and it
was her opinion that until such a meeting and commitment a
solution would not be forthcoming. She recommended that in
the interim the City continue to contact the various
agencies regarding projects that are in place or upcoming in
order to be prepared to report the City'S efforts to the
various representatives.
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The City Manager noted discussion at a recent League
Conference on Legislation relating to the financial
shortfalls and potential revenue sources at the State level,
and suggested that rather than the state granting additional
authorities for cities to raise taxes, if the workers
compensation issue could be revised there would likely not
be a need for new revenue sources. He mentioned that upon
reviewing the workers camp claims over recent years they
have for the mostpart been generated from one doctor/clinic
and one attorney, in most cases they have been settled
because of the extreme expense to defend. Senator Bergeson
cited the issue of workers compensation as the real loss
during the recent State budget negotiations, yet as a result
there was a more stringent fraud bill proposed. She
recommended that if there are any suspicions of fraud they
should be challenged. Brief discussion continued regarding
the workers compensation issue in general.
Mayor Laszlo thanked 'Senator Bergeson for attending the
meeting and listening to the various,concerns. The Senator
expressed appreciation for the opportunity to meet with the
City, and offered to follow up on the issues that were
brought forward.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn until Monday, December 9th at 6:00 p.m. to meet
in Closed Session. The meeting was adjourned at 11:21 a.m.
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Seal Beach, California
December 9, 1991
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in reqular
adjourned session at 6:01 p.m. with Mayor Laszlo calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Laszlo
Councilmembers Doane, Forsythe, Hastings,
Wilson
Absent:
None
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Also present: Mr. Bankston, city Manager
Mr. Barrow, Assistant city Attorney
Mrs. Yea, City Clerk
CLOSED SESSION
The Assistant City Attorney announced that the Council would
meet in Closed Session pursuant to Government Code section
54956.9{a) to discuss personnel matters, and threatened
litigation pursuant to subsection (b). It was the order of
the Chair, with consent of the Council, to adjourn to Closed
Session at 6:03 p.m. The Council reconvened at 7:03 p.m.
with Mayor Laszlo calling the meeting to order. The
Assistant City Attorney reported the Council had discussed
the matters previously announced, the Council also received
an update regarding the Franchesi versus Seal Beach case,
and no other matters were discussed.
ADJOURNMENT
Doane moved,
7:04 p.m.
AYES:
NOES:
second by Hastings, to adjourn the meeting at
Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
Attest:
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