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M. Yeo, Cit~
of Seal Beach
1992.
Seal Beach, California
January 4, 1993
The Council of the city of Seal Beach met in special session at
6:02 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe callinq the meetinq to order with
the Salute to the Flaq.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Forsythe
Councilmembers Brown, Doane, Hastinqs, Laszlo
Absent: None
Also present: Mr. Bankston, City Manaqer
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, city Clerk
Mayor Forsythe read the Notice of Special Meetinq for the record
as follows:
"Gwen Forsythe, 523 Riviera Drive, Seal Beach
Marilyn Bruce Hastinqs, 121 - 12th Street, lA,
Seal Beach
Georqe Brown, 1710 Tam O'Shanter Road, 12-H,
Seal Beach
William Doane, 1401 Skokie Road, 83-A, Seal Beach
Frank Laszlo, 4480 Candleberry Avenue, Seal Beach
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that Gwen A. Forsythe, Mayor
and presidinq officer of the city Council of the
city of Seal Beach, does hereby call and qive
notice of a special meeting of the Seal Beach City
Council to be convened at 6:00.p.m. on Monday,
January 4, 1993 in city Council Chambers, 211 - 8th
Street, Seal Beach, california, for the purpose of
meetinq in Closed Session with reqard to pendinq
litiqation in the Mola Development Corporation
versus City of Seal Beach matter, and to take any
measure or action that may be deemed necessary.
DATED THIS 29th day of December, 1992.
Gwen A. Forsythe, Mayor
city of Seal Beach
By: Joanne M. Yeo, city Clerk
city of Seal Beach"
CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the Council would meet in Closed
Session pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(a) to discuss
the Mola Development corporation versus city of Seal Beach
matter, and threatened litiqation pursuant to Section 54956.9(b).
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the council, to
adjourn to Closed Session at 6:04 p.m. The Council reconvened at
6:28 p.m. with the Mayor callinq the meetinq to order. The City
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Attorney reported the Council had discussed the items previously
identified, and that no action was taken.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to'
adjourn the meetinq at 6:29 p.m.
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Approved:
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Mayor
Attest:
Seal Beach, California
January 4, 1993
The city Council of the City of Seal Beach met in reqular
adjourned session at 7:02 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe callinq the
meetinq to order with the Salute to the Flaq.
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ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Forsythe
Councilmembers Brown, Doane, Hastinqs, Laszlo
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Bankston, city Manaqer
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberq, Director of Development
Services
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Hastinqs moved, second by Brown, to waive the readinq in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the waiver of
readinq shall be deemed to be qiven by all Councilmembers after
readinq of the title unless specific request is made at that time
for the readinq of such ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastinqs, Laszlo
None Motion carried
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Mayor Forsythe advised of a storm front anticipated on-shore by
as early as the followinq morninq and in conjunction with hiqh
tides. She asked that residents take precautions, advised that
sand baqs are available at the City Hall and at the Public Works
Yard, that access is beinq provided to the First Street Beach to
obtain sand, and noted a second storm, anticipated for Thursday,
predicted to be equally stronq and aqain coupled with hiqh tides.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Forsythe declared Oral Communications open. Mr. Galen
Ambrose, Seal Beach, complained of the onqoinq impact of Calvary
Chapel services on adjacent residential properties, such as his
residence, and inquired as to the status of the concerns he
brouqht forth some time past. With reqard to the issues
forthcominq on the aqenda for discussion, he stated his belief
that anyone intendinq to open a business in the community should
first conduct a marketinq study rather than make after-the-fact
requests of the City that will have an impact on residents, that
residents "take priority over developers and businesses. He
complained also that nothinq has been done with reqard to the
rezoninq of the Hellman land nor has the deck encroachment on the
Hill been resolved. Ms. Mitzi Morton, Seal Beach, stated that
the predominantly residential Old Town area does not exist simply
to support or quarantee the success of ~ommercial businesses on
Main Street, that the Street is an attractive asset to the
adjacent residential community, and future commercial must not be
desiqned to dominate this atmosphere. Mr. Bruce Stark, Seal
Beach, said he hoped the drains and pumps are in workinq order so
that the floodinq of Seal Beach Boulevard can be avoided durinq
the approachinq storm. He also'suqqested the installation of
parkinq meters in the beach parkinq lots and on Main Street as a
source of revenue. There beinq no further comments, Mayor
Forsythe declared Oral Communications closed.
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COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE - ARCHAEOLOGICAL CONSULTANT SELECTION
The Director of Development Services presented the staff report
and request that a two member city Council subcommittee be
established to interview the seven firms respondinq to the
Request for Qualifications for Archaeoloqical Consultant
Services, the subcommittee to make a subsequent recommendation to
the full Council of the three top firms selected in accordance
with the RFQ, the selection of three firms eliminatinq the need
to aqain qo throuqh the RFQ process as other projects come
forward. He also inquired as to the desire of the Council to
include the Council subcommittee appointees to the Archaeoloqical
Advisory Committee as part of the interview panel.
Councilmembers Hastinqs and Brown offered to sit as the Council
subcommittee and concurred with the suqqestion to include their
Archaeoloqical Committee appointees on the panel. The morninq of
January 14th was indicated as a preferable time for the
interviews or any block of hours on January 15th.
PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 92-2 - EXTENSION
OF HOURS - SEASIDE GRILL
Mayor Forsythe declared the public hearinq open to consider an
appeal of Planninq Commission approval of modifications of
conditions for Conditional Use Permit 92-2, a request for an
extension of hours in conjunction with an existinq restaurant,
Seaside Grill, 101 Main Street. The city Clerk certified that
notice of the public hearinq had been advertised and mailed as
required by law, that the notice of rescheduled hearinq had been
advertised as well, and reported there had been no communications
received either for or aqainst this item. The Director of
Development Services presented the staff report relatinq to bhe
requested modification of hours to allow one extra hour of
restaurant operation from 10:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. on Sunday
throuqh ThurSday, or five additional hours per week. It was
noted that the current hours of operation, approved May 6, 1992,
are from 7:00 a.m. daily until 10:00 p.m. Sunday throuqh
Thursday, and until 11:00 p.m. on Friday, Saturday, for Special
Events and on Holidays, that the approved Alcoholic Beveraqe
Control hours of operation are 8:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m. each
day of the week, and that the approved modification of
Conditional Use permit 92-2 allowed the operation of the Seaside
Grill from 7:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m. daily. The Director
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reported that the grounds for appeal were that the Commission
action was in opposition to the staff recommendation to defer the
request until the twelve month CUP review; that the categorical
exemption was inappropriate and that the cumulative impacts of
this proposal should be considered; that the modification of
hours should not be approved since the business has been open for
only five months and the applicant had indicated an awareness of
a CUP condition violation where alcohol had been served after the
required hour of closure; that the Commission did not give due
consideration to the comments of neighboring residents; and that
the provision for an indemnity agreement brings into question the
appropriateness of the extension of hours and whether this action
puts the city in some jeopardy of litigation. To the issues of
appeal the Director explained that a staff recommendation is
generally based on technical review without the advantage of
public testimony, and upon receipt of such testimony
determinations are often made that are different from an initial
staff recommendation; although the Commission determined the
categorical exemption was appropriate in this case, staff
prepared an Initial study and examined the potential cumulative
impacts arising from the request, even though there is no legal
obligation to do so, the Study was circulated to various agencies
for review and comment, that period expiring January 11th; that
although the commission did consider the after-closing-hour
consumption of alcohol, they chose to grant the request subject
to certain terms and conditions, however directed that a copy of
the minutes which included that discussion be forwarded to the
ABC for their consideration and action; that after hearing
testimony in favor of and in opposition to the request, the
Commission approved the request by a three to two vote with
conditions designed to mitigate potential adverse impacts, the
final decision as to the appropriateness of that action now
before the Council for final determination; and that the
indemnity provision was a recommendation of the city Attorney to
limit the city's exposure and reduce any potential legal
expenses, a condition that has become standard in other cities
and will be imposed on most, if not all discretionary approvals
in the future. The Director reviewed Municipal Code standards
for evaluation of conditional use permits, noted the need for
Council decision as to whether the request is compatible with the
General Plan, surrounding uses, and the community in general, and
the options of the Council to either sustain the decision of the
Planning commission, grant the appeal of Mr. Gordon Shanks, et
aI, reversing the decision of the Commission, or upon
presentation of new information, referral back to the Planning
Commission. The Director reported that at the time of the
Initial Study the Police Department had indicated that the Crime
Reporting Districts for the downtown area were Three and Four,
however as of this date the correct District for Main Street and
the commercial properties along Pacific Coast Highway was found
to be Seven and a comparison of those statistics from 1985 until
September, 1992 has been provided for Council information, that
the crime and arrest activity of 566 between the high reporting
year of 1989 and the activity in 1991 of 476 has decreased 15.9
percent in the District Seven reporting area, 1992 being 244
through September, and explained that Reporting District Three
covers the area westerly of the 8th Street Alley and District
Four covers the area easterly of lOth Street Alley.
Councilmember Hastings requested the totals of crime activity for
Reporting Districts Three, Four and Seven for the seven year
period and 1992 to date. Upon inquiry of the Council, staff
clarified that should the public hearing be concluded at this
meeting, an action to deny the requests under appeal could be
taken, likewise, any of the options set forth in the staff report
may be postponed until the next meeting. Council indicated it
was not likely an action would be taken at this meeting.
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Mayor Forsythe invited members of the audience wishing to speak
to this matter to come to the microphone and state their name and
address for the record. Mr. Gordon Shanks, said he was one of
eleven appellants, residents of various areas of the city, to the
approved modification of conditions of CUP 92-2. Mr. Shanks
expressed regret with the apparent conflict between the merchants
and residents regarding Main Street, said that the ambience of
Main street is one thing that makes Seal Beach what it is and
most people do not want that changed, and although the merchants
are looking to make a living, he could not support certain
changes for their financial benefit. He mentioned a recent news
article that said 'many of those that come to enjoy the beach or
pier first enter Old Town, the heart, soul, and historic center
of Seal Beach, the various shops attesting that this Main street
is more than a Disneyland facade.' Mr. Shanks mentioned that it
has been said that the four to five hours, the subject of this
request, would not matter, however claimed that it will because
in giving this approval there will then be others that will
approach the City for consideration of similar requests. He
noted the original request had been for a 1:00 a.m. closing seven
days per week, that was not allowed, and predicted that that
request would be resubmitted upon conclusion of the twelve month
review period. Mr. Shanks requested that this type of request be
stopped now, and that the appeal be approved. Mr. Galen Ambrose,
Seal Beach, spoke in support of the appeal, citing specifically
the lack of regard for the residents. Dr. David Rosenman,
resident of Eighth Street baCking to Main street, stated he is
affected by that Street. Dr. Rosenman also referred to a news
article entitled 'residents upset as nightlife grows' which he
said showed the over concentration of alcohol service on Main
Street. He clarified that the issues under consideration are
problems that have resulted from past actions of the city,
predicated on in-lieu parking, and stated his belief that there
is no valid in-lieu parking in Seal Beach, documentation of that
program appears to be non-existent, therefore should the appeal
be set aside such action would in essence be making something
kosher that is illegal. Dr. Rosenman called attention to the
communication from the Grace community Church requesting that the
extension of hours not be granted, questioned why a negative
declaration is now being considered, cited the failure to
consider cumulative impacts, and claimed that actions of the city
are negatively impacting property values. Ms. Reva Olson, Seal
Beach, spoke in support of this appeal, expressing her opinion
that requests such as those under appeal are affecting property
values in the Old Town area, parking is impacted, that there is
no authority for an in-lieu parking program, claimed that past
procedures have been incorrect and in 1985 she had advised the
City that an environmental impact report should be prepared where
there is an intent to intensify use. Ms. Juliana McCants, Seal
Beach, mentioned her opposition to alcohol and liquor licenses
some years past as well as now, noted impacts with regard to
parking, safety, etc., stated she did not see how another
business intensification could be justified, and asked for
support of the citizens views and preservation of the pace of
this city. Mr. Bruce stark, Seal Beach, complained that the
three members of the Planning Commission living,furthest from Old
Town voted in support of the extension of hours for Seaside
Grill, stated such extension would impact his property as well as
the property of others, made a comparison of Main Street to the
Belmont Shore community of Long Beach where there is now a
restriction on liquor licenses, mentioned a previous request of
the City for copies of all in-lieu parking agreements, yet to be
provided, and took exception to the reference of such local
establishments as restaurants rather than beer bars. He
expressed opposition to summer special events that involve
alcohol and the lack of attention by the city to the impact on
the residential neighborhoods. He suggested that the city is not
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in compliance with the law where, in the case of Seaside Grill
that began as a take-out business, this and other establishments
are proliferating the sale/use of alcohol which constitutes an
intensification of use and requires more than a negative
declaration. Mr. Stark concluded that parking is one issue, the
quality of life is another, and Old Town residents are impacted.
Mr. Laird Mueller, 235 - 8th street, stated the residents have I
constantly protested alcohol, late night alcohol, and the
enticement of large numbers of persons to drink. He noted the
alcohol establishments all want to stay open later, that late
night emptying of trash is an impact, the patrons are not
sensitive to the residents, spoke in support of daylight and
early evening businesses and the relocation of establishments
with alcohol elsewhere. He concluded that there is an impact on
the City, Old Town in particular, that the issue is not the
residents versus business, it is residents versus late night
drinking. with regard to Papillon Restaurant, Mr. Mueller noted
they have a parking area, are adjacent to a church where
residents will not be as greatly impacted, and suggested that
Clancy'S and the Irisher are the worst offenders in that they
have no parking. Ms. Gretchen Shegina, 235 Surf Place, said
during her thirty-seven year residence in Belmont Shore she
observed a decline of the area, prior business locations giving
way to restaurants and bars with the highest percentage of
disturbances and impacts occurring after closing hours, and
people having knowledge of the area now do not choose to live
there. She urged that Seal Beach not make the mistake of
allowing that to occur here. Mr. Joe Palmer, College Park East,
said it appears that the alcohol industry has targeted Seal
Beach, possibly because of its small town atmosphere. He read
several quotes from a September National Geographic article
regarding the effects of alcohol. Mr. Palmer expressed his I
opinion that to even consider extending the hours for someone to
consume alcohol is against the public interest. Mr. Roger West,
Electric Avenue, voiced his support for the appeal and against
the extension of hours for the Seaside Grill. He expressed
amazement that this license was granted initially in view of the
memorandum from the Police Chief that cited the business location
to be in the highest crime reporting district thus the issuance
of additional licenses would be contrary to ABC rules, and in the
opinion of the Police Department the license could be a
disservice as to the liability of the citizens of Seal Beach, and
that there was already a concentration of alcohol licenses in the
district, again contrary to ABC rules. Mr. West objected to the
persons promoting this request by referring to those in
opposition as anti business or alcohol, and stated pUblic
drunkenness is not necessary for prosperity.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to
declare a recess at 8:09 p.m. The Council reconvened at 8:23
p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the meeting to order.
Ms. Norma Strohmeier, Seal Beach, stated her support of the
appeal and cited the impact of this type of request on everyone,
recalled the period when live music was allowed and bars closed
at midnight, and said her sympathy, if any, would be with the bar I
owners that have been operating for forty years and now another
establishes in the immediate vicinity to their location. She
suggested that Councilman Doane should possibly remove himself
from voting on this matter as a result of his recent statements
in a news article regarding the business community and the
quality of life in Old Town. She concluded that persons in
opposition to late night hours and alcohol licenses should not be
condemned. Ms. Helen Potepan, 1870 Sunningdale Road, spoke in
support of the appeal, indicating her belief that the current
hours are sufficient to make a living without causing harm to the
people of Old Town. Mr. Mark HotChkiss, Seal Beach, stated his
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disagreement was not necessarily with the CUP, rather the op1n1on
of staff that there was no legal mandate to prepare an initial
study or negative declaration, his opinion based upon Section 2
of the Planning Commission findings which stated 'because it can
be seen with certainty that there is no possibility that the
approval may have a significant effect on the environment,' also
said in order to utilize the categorical exemption there can not
be any cumulative impact, however a 1989 court decision
determined that cumulative impacts must be considered even if
there is no intention of a similar type project in the same area,
therefore in his opinion the cumulative impacts must be addressed
in this matter since there are similar requests being processed.
He expressed concern that negative declarations are not being
reviewed by the Environmental Quality Control Board or the
Planning Commission, claimed that they do not address cumulative
impacts, rather they are deemed to be insignificant unto
themselves, and suggested that all CUP's need to be considered
with a complete environmental review required. Mr. Hotchkiss
suggested that the appeal be approved at least until all of the
issues are addressed. Mr. Mario Voce, Seal Beach, expressed his
belief that one of the bonds that bring people together is the
enjoyment of late night and early morning peace and quiet of Seal
Beach, yet mentioned the observance by many of the deterioration
of the quality of life in Old Town which in turn does have an
impact on property values. He indicated his desire that the
apparent conflict between opppsing opinions in these matters will
cease. Mr. Voce called for the preparation of a planning policy
setting forth the principles under which the City considers such
CUP's, whether it be through the CEQA process or otherwise, and
explained that his joining in the appeal of this matter was the
result of the poor procedures of the Planning Commission. Mr.
James Goodwin, 1405 Crestview Avenue, spoke in support of the
appeal as well as for establishing standards for future
consideration of environmental matters. Ms. Carla Watson, 1635
Catalina Avenue, expressed affection for the Seal Beach community
as a whole, specifically the downtown area and Main street, and
the involvement and support of the business community throughout
the years. Ms. Watson indicated that although she may also enjoy
piano bars, questioned if there isn't a need to make choices, if
the community can have it all, the question then being what does
the community want Main Street to be like in five to ten years.
Dr. David Rosenman, 8th Street, suggested that a clarification be
sought from the City Attorneys with regard to the validity of
requiring indemnification clauses, specifically if the applicant
does not have sufficient resources to indemnify the city for
legal fees and potential cumulative damages.
Ms. Linda Park, Dolphin Avenue, indicated her residence and
employment in Old Town, stated her frequent patronage of Main
Street businesses, including the Seaside Grill, of which she
spoke favorably. She spoke in opposition to the appeal and in
support of the one hour extension of operation. Ms. Glynnis
McCants, 1000 Electric Avenue, lifelong resident, spoke of the
Seaside Grill as an asset to the town, a friendly place to
frequent, and stated no comparison can be reached between Seal
Beach and the Long Beach area of Belmont Shore. Ms. Linda
Dobson, Marlin Avenue, spoke of enjoying the quiet atmosphere of
Seal Beach and noted the eagerness of everyone to preserve Seal
Beach. She recalled business investments that have failed in
recent years at the Grill location, spoke in support of the
investment and efforts of the present owners, of more Main Street
businesses being open in the evenings, such as Seaside Grill,
which affords a feeling of security for persons walking on or
near the pier, and suggested that the focus be on the request for
just one hour of extended operation. Mr. John Baker, businessman
and thirty-two year resident, mentioned the required notification
procedure to surrounding properties to initiate any change in
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business operations, noted in this case the property owners
within that area have not been heard from, and claimed that
businesses on Main street have not impacted property values in
Old Town. Mr. Baker requested that the applicant be treated
fairly in his request for one hour of extended operation of his
restaurant. Mr. John stamps, 610 Coastline Drive, spoke
favorably of the Seaside Grill and their request for a one hour I
extension of operations, stated the restaurant is frequented
mostly by residents, friendly, nice people. Ms. Ellie Gimberly,
resident since 1985, spoke in support of the operation of the
Grill, a place where one would be comfortable taking their
grandchildren, stated parking has always been available within a
block of the location, the vicinity of the restaurant has been
quiet, and suggested the additional one hour will not change
that. Ms. Kim steele, Ocean Avenue, student, and employee of
Seaside Grill, spoke of it as clean, friendly, and a wholesome
atmosphere, stated the majority of customers are local residents
who frequently walk to the restaurant, and visitors from other
areas of the country have come to this establishment as opposed
to those in other cities because of its atmosphere. Mr. Rich
Doodash, affiliate of Farmers Insurance and insurance broker for
the applicants, spoke in support of the owners of Seaside Grill
and of their request, this considered to be a model restaurant.
Ms. Barbara Babcock, 6th street, noted her employment as a
Federal law enforcement officer, dealing with unsavory persons
daily. She stated her choice of Seal Beach as a residence was
based upon the low crime rate, a safe, secure community, where
one knows their neighbors. She described the customers of
Seaside Grill as persons of high character, morals, and ethics,
and the variety of food as very good. She supported the one hour
extension. Mr. Tom Charara, president, Seal Beach Business
Association, Main Street business owner, stated his support for I
the Seaside Grill. With regard to cumulative or negative impacts
he claimed this is a case of reverse discrimination, and to limit
the one hour requested could impact the life and livelihood of
the restaurant owner. Mr. Charara said there is no conflict
between the businesses and the residents, and reported the
formation of a SBBA committee to discuss this and other Main
Street issues. He said although there are certain isolated
instances, the crime report is misleading in that when he reports
a skateboarder on the pier or a peddler in the vicinity that then
becomes a reported crime statistics. Mr. Charara spoke in favor
of the City having a Code Enforcement Officer to enforce
conditions of CUP's and other approvals, expressed his belief
that everyone cares about Seal Beach, and stated the merchants as
well as residents have an investment in the community. Mr. Ed
simmons, resident since 1960, expressed his opinion that nothing
in Seal Beach has changed, the people have changed, parking
remains the same yet there are three parking lots that are
virtually empty most of the time. He mentioned street repairs,
flooding, etc., that should receive more attention than an
extended hour of operation for a thriving business, cited the
difficulty of local businesses surviving during winter months,
and suggested that the kind of issues under consideration should
be resolved by staff rather than at a meeting such as this. Mr.
Ray Ochoa, 240-1/2 Main street, said he was recently retained to I
represent the Seaside Grill, and requested the opportunity to
review the proceedings that have taken place thus far. He noted
that as a resident he was somewhat familiar with the issue, that
he had not heard any new information presented at this meeting,
that there had been a valid decision by the Planning Commission
to approve the extra hour of operation for this business, and
that is the issue that should be focused upon. Ms. Christine
stangeland, 6th Street, lifelong resident, referred to her
employment on Main street, service as a volunteer firefighter,
expressed her affection for Seal Beach, support of the Seaside
Grill, a family type restaurant within walking distance, and
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favored the one hour extension of that operation. Ms. cynthia
Lidyoff, 405 Crystal Place, indicated her residency and
employment in the community, and first of all scolded the City
for not having resolved the in-lieu parking issue that has been
the subject of discussion for years. She mentioned that once
persons move to Seal Beach their attitude appears to be that they
want to shut out the rest of the world and stop everyone else
from getting what they now have, whether it be more homes,
businesses, whatever, which is an infringement of the rights and
privileges of others. Ms. Lidyoff suggested that the issues be
looked at intelligently rather than emotionally given the varied
opinions of the speakers, possibly a probationary period should
be considered. She expressed her support for the request of the
seaside Grill, asked that a decision not be made based upon the
opinions of a few, and if that is not possible that the issue be
taken to the people. She also voiced her support for the request
of Papillon's. In response to comments that there are people who
own local businesses that do not live here, Ms. Lidyoff said in
those cases the owners would like to live in this community
however can not afford to do so, and urged support for local
businesses. Mr. Dave Wyneken, 143 - 11th street, stated his
intent to speak in support of Papillons, however this request
appeared to be of the same category. He mentioned his residency
since 1988, having moved to Seal Beach for the same reasons
voiced by others. He expressed his belief that the one hour
extension for the Seaside Grill will change nothing, that his
residence is within two blocks of the location and he has
experienced none of the problems mentioned by other speakers, his
parking problem the result of neighboring residents parking their
extra cars on the street for periods of time. Mr. Wyneken
suggested that the community pull together and work on other
problems that need to be dealt with. Mr. Ron Molinari, 163
Electric Avenue, stated his support for the request of Seaside
Grill. Mr. Jim Klisanin, 122 - 7th street, noted his residence
in proximity to the subject property, and reported having none of
the problems that others have stated. He mentioned being a
thirty year resident, a concerned and involved citizen, spoke in
support of the owners and their efforts to establish the Seaside
Grill, and stated to not grant the request for a one hour
extension would not be something that should be imposed on people
coming into the community and investing. He noted that this
business has a parking area, commercial building, and
condominiums behind the location, and offered that although the
acoustics within the building are not the best, once the rear
doors to the parking area are closed there is no exterior noise.
Mr. Klisanin spoke highly of the customers of the restaurant, and
supported of the extra hour of operation. Mr. Doug Stewart, 1010
Marvista Avenue, said he felt the extra hour should be granted,
the applicants epitomize working people, operate their business
in a professional manner, as does the owners of Papillons. He
offered his support for the success of this business, and agreed
with the comment that businesses open in the evenings convey a
feeling of security. Mr. Stewart expressed as disturbing the
appearance of a special interest group advocating that alcohol,
etc., is bad, a hidden agenda where the next request may be that
the streets close at 10:00 p.m. He urged that the Council grant
the requested one hour extension for Seaside Grill and the single
entertainer for Papillons. Mr. Glenn Peasley, 120 College Park
Drive, recalled that after several hearings the Planning
Commission determined in favor of the additional hour of
operation for the Seaside Grill, and suggested to not support the
decision of the Council appointed Commission reflects on the
judgment of the City Council. He questioned the reasoning of
restricting one business to a 10:00 p.m. closing when other
businesses in the same vicinity are allowed to operate until a
later hour.
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It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to
declare a recess at 9:34 p.m. The Council reconvened at 9:52
p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the meeting to order.
Mayor Forsythe inquired if it was the intent of Mr. Ochoa, the
attorney retained by the owners of Seaside Grill, to request a
continuance of this item until the next meeting, and if so, would
he be willing submit such request to the city Clerk in writing.
Mr. Ochoa responded in the affirmative, and indicated the intent
was to review the procedures thus far and allow the opportunity
to prepare and submit written materials regarding this matter.
The City Attorney clarified that an option of the Council would
be to close the hearing to public comments, continue the hearing
to receive comments regarding the negative declaration, comments
from the legal counsel of the applicants, from the appellant, and
continue the limited hearing until the following meeting, January
11th.
The appellant, Mr. Gordon Shanks, 215 Surf Place, said although
several persons spoke in support of this request he felt a number
of problems are associated with this issue. He claimed that the
applicants have had difficulty in abiding by the regulations of
their original approval, condition ten imposed a permit term of
twelve months after which time the Planning Commission was to
review and extend the permit indefinitely provided that all
conditions of approval were satisfied and no significant police
or other problems had occurred, that the Planning Director had
recommended against the original extension request for three
hours, subsequently for one hour for the same reason, the twelve
month period meant to allow the Police Department, City staff,
and other interested parties to review the operation of the
business. He noted the applicant was denied a three hour
extension by the ABC, the request was then for one hour, and
claimed that procedures have been violated. Mr. Shanks
acknowledged that the restaurant is obviously doing well, there
is no objection to that, however stated that the concern is that
if allowed the one hour, is that going to be for the serving of
food, or serving of beer and wine, and are they going to then
seek additional hours. He also offered a scenario where the
Seaside Grill is allowed the additional hour and then ceases to
be in business, the next owner then requests to be open until
midnight, which another similar business may also request, thus
the domino effect and a need to maintain a limited control and
non-expansion of alcohol businesses on Main Street. Mr. Shanks
suggested that if their business is healthy and making a profit, .
the applicant should be able to wait the twelve month review
period pursuant to their original agreement. He concluded that
the desire is that this business be maintained as a restaurant,
one that all can be proud of, and not become a bar. Mr. Shanks
urged support of the appeal.
Brown moved, second by Doane, to close the public testimony
portion of the hearing relating to Conditional Use Permit 92-2,
that this matter be continued until the January 11th, 1993
meeting at which time comments of the applicant or his attorney
and the appellant will be accepted as well as comments relating
to the Negative Declaration.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None Motion carried
The City Attorney advised that Wednesday would be the deadline
for submittal of documents by the attorney for the applicant.
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PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 92-13 -
ENTERTAINMENT - PAPILLON RESTAURANT
Mayor Forsythe declared the public hearing open to consider an
appeal of the Planning Commission approval of Conditional Use
Permit 92-13, a request for live entertainment in conjunction
with an existing restaurant at 143 Main Street. The City Clerk
certified that the notice of public hearing had been advertised
and mailed as required by law, that the notice of rescheduled
hearing had been advertised as well, and reported receipt of two
communications in support of the request, as well as a
communication presented at the last meeting in opposition to the
granting of permits for the sale of alcoholic beverages on Main
street. The Director of Development Services reviewed the staff
report and determination of the Planning commission. He noted
that two separate appeals had been filed on this matter, that of
Councilmember Hastings stating the belief that entertainment
along Main street, as well as commercial properties directly
adjacent to residential properties, could set a precedent and
long-range policy of the City, and such decisions should be
considered by the City Council, the major concerns expressed in
the appeal of Ms. Reva Olson basically citing cumulative impacts
and the lack of an adequate mechanism for enforcement. He
reported that the staff has prepared an Initial study, proposed
negative declaration, and has examined the potential cumulative
impacts arising from the request. The Director reviewed the
options of the Council upon concluding the public hearing to 1)
approve the Negative Declaration and sustain the decision of the
Planning Commission; 2) sustain the appeals, reversing the
recommendation of the Commission; or 3) referral back to the
Planning Commission upon the presentation of new information.
Mayor Forsythe invited members of the audience wishing to speak
to this item to come to the microphone and state their name and
address for the record. Ms. Reva Olson, Seal Beach, was duly
sworn by the Clerk, and stated CUP 92-13 was approved by the
Planning Commission without full consideration of all aspects of
the application, her appeal based upon errors by the Commission
in their approval. She read her written statement dated December
11, 1992 regarding the basis of her appeal which in part cited 1)
the property as nonconforming due to substandard setbacks,
loading zone, parking and landscaping; 2) an intensification of
use of this nonconforming property in as much as the live
entertainment is another use without provision for additional
parking for the additional employee; 3) no means of determining
the impact of customer generation associated with the live
entertainment; 4) no CEQA analysis was completed on the parking
impact from the additional employee or additional customer
generation; 5) failure to consider the precedent setting aspects,
whereby any other food service establishment may apply for a
similar permit and expect same to be granted; 6) failure to
consider the cumulative impacts of Planning Commission continual
approvals of requests for intensification of nonconforming uses
along Main Street without complete environmental review, the lack
of requiring additional parking and the lack of an adopted in-
lieu parking program or parking impact mitigation fee; 7) failure
to consider parking impacts on adjacent residential
neighborhoods; 8) failure to provide any enforcement mechanism
for violations of conditions or City requlations; and 9) that
there is no adopted plan for Main Street, the problems need to be
identified, subject to provisions of CEQA, the Coastal Act, and
the General Plan. Ms. Olson requested that CUP 92-13 be denied,
that an urgency ordinance be adopted placing a moratorium on the
issuance of permits for intensification of uses on Main Street
until parking, noise, and compatibility with residential use
issues can be resolved, and that the staff and Planning
Commission be directed to cease approving any application based
upon nonexistent parking schemes, including but not limited to
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in-lieu, parking impact mitigation, shared, leased, grandfathered
parking, etc. Mr. Charles Antos, 328 - 17th street, was duly
sworn by the Clerk, said he had no problem with the subject
restaurant or its owners, yet as stated in the past, an overall
EIR should be prepared for the Main street business area and an
assessment of the carrying capacity, said he felt he could show
that all of the approvals that the city has granted for Main I
street over several years are invalid based upon the General Plan
and CEQA. He read an excerpt from California Land Use and
Planning Law with regard to the correlation of an infrastructure
plan of a circulation Element with the Land Use Element, the
prerequisite of an adequate General Plan being an emphasis of the
appellate courts in cases of land use approvals, CEQA also
declaring that if a General Plan is determined to be inadequate
an EIR prepared for a project is prepared in a vacuum, the
checklist for a Circulation Element asking if that Element is
lacking in fiscal responsibility and if it is in correlation with
the Land Use Element. He quoted from the Keyser Marsten study of
1983 which cited that the beach parking lots could support
parking for the 100 block and westerly portion of the 200 block
of Main street, that two contiguous parcels in the 300 block
could be acquired to provide parking for the east side of the
study area, yet the City allowed a building to be constructed in
the 300 block without adequate parking. He also quoted from the
Linscott, Law and Greenspan study that parking development goes
hand in hand with revitalization, the most cost effective long
term strategy would be to deck the existing beach lots,
eliminating the cost associated with property acquisition,
however in 1983 dollars the cost of each structured space would
be about $6,000 plus financing costs, thus the basis for
evaluating the cost on an in-lieu parking space, and to tie
revitalization, in-lieu and parking development programs together I
the City could create a Parking Authority by means of the Parking
Law of 1949, have the power to issue bonds to acquire and
construct parking facilities, the parking revenue then used to
repay the obligation incurred in doing so. Mr. Antos claimed
that the city has done nothing, that the in-lieu program does not
exist yet has been a means of granting variances without
providing parking. He mentioned a statement in a 1985 Coastal
Commission staff report that 'no in-lieu parking program had been
approved by the City, that the cumulative effect of utilizing
public parking spaces as a substitute for on-site parking
deficiencies or as a basis of an in-lieu program would be to
incrementally reduce the supply of public parking spaces near the
beach thereby restricting public access, that the Commission has
approved other in-lieu, shared-use parking programs in the past,
in this situation the City is currently studying a parking
management program however no in-lieu fee program has been
approved to date, however areas of concern exist regarding the
location and cost of in-lieu parking spaces which are yet to be
determined, in-lieu parking fee programs that actually create new
parking spaces are necessary to insure the availability of
adequate public parking for beach use in the future, the city is
currently working on a solution to the parking deficiency alonq
Main street in anticipation of future recycling and
intensification of use of commercial structures, parking was not I
originally identified as a serious issue in the city's draft LCP
because of the availability of parking in the beach lots as well
as the existence of both vertical and lateral public access along
Main street, the issue of access/parking has been identified as
an area of potential conflict in the future, the extensive
recycling of uses and intensification of development in the Old
Town commercial district, along with the lack of adequate on-site
parking has become an issue that will need to be addressed in the
city's LCP.' Mr. Antos said in conclusion that to not provide
new parking spaces is in violation of the Coastal Act, again
claimed that all City approvals involving in-lieu parking are
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invalid, that in-lieu monies should not be collected since there
is no valid program, the monies are not being used, and stated
his opinion that until such time as parking and carrying capacity
are dealt with the city can approve nothing for Main street as
there is not a valid General Plan, specifically a Circulation
Element. Although speaking favorably of the owners and the
quality of food at Papillons, Ms. Juliana McCants, 1000 Electric
Avenue, objected to this request in that allowing live
entertainment will likely draw more clientele to the business,
requiring more parking spaces, yet additional parking is not
being provided, that in-lieu parking is an issue and city
policies are not being met. As a former resident of Laquna
Beach, Dr. David Rosenman, Seal Beach, said upon last check
Laguna charges about $9,000 per parking space per year, that the
$100 assessment per space in Seal Beach is a sham and the city is
legally liable, and that negative declarations are not prepared
after an appeal is filed, which would give the appearance to a
court of law that something unusual has taken place. He
indicated awareness of two or three applications in progress, one
being the prior Green Pepper location which was exempted from
environmental review yet it is not a grandfathered use, the
ownership has changed, the business has not operated for more
than twelve months, there is no parking, etc. Dr. Rosenman
mentioned that when Johns Food King came before the Commission
their request was held in abeyance due to a dispute as to whether
Johns or Papillons controls the parking lot, and the bottom line
is that an in-lieu parking program does not exist and must be
resolved. Mr. Bruce Stark, Seal Beach, mentioned that during
summer months there is an attendant at that parking lot to ensure
its use for Johns Market, and stated his objection to persons
continually charging those who oppose something on Main street to
be opposed to business. Mr. stark said there are
responsibilities associated with requests such as those under
consideration, made reference to specific past approvals that
became nuisances from which lessons should have been learned,
rights versus civil responsibilities, that businesses should not
trample the rights of neighbors, suggesting that the number of
alcohol establishments on Main Street should be limited, as
should the hours and uses.
A gentleman from the audience commended the citizens wanting to
make everything just right in Seal Beach, stated that a harp or
piano is synonymous with good dining and he did not believe that
a single business should bear the blunt of everything that is
perceived to be wrong in the community, and stated his support of
the Papillon request. Ms. Chris Stangeland, 6th and Ocean, also
spoke for the request, noted the parking area is shared by Johns
and Papillons, and asked how it could be determined whether the
single musical instrument is acceptable until the request is
given a chance. Ms. Glynnis McCants, 1000 Electric Avenue,
voiced support for the request for live entertainment by
Papillons. Mr. Dave Wyneken, 11th street, spoke in favor of the
requested entertainment and the opportunity for this restaurant
to compete in the community. Sol John, 12th street, said that
new businesses that come to town should be given a chance, an
opportunity to make money, that there is need to fix the pier,
the streets, the parking lots, and enhance the City's police
protection. Ms. Barbara Tahvildari, Papillons owner/ applicant,
said at the time their business was considered by the Coastal
Commission in-lieu parking was not being recognized, and although
the parking lot is shared with Johns Market it was necessary to
obtain seven off-site spaces. She offered that there have been
no problems relating to the restaurant that she was aware of, and
said they are willing to abide by the conditions of approval.
Ms. Tahvildari reiterated that the request is for one unamplified
entertainer, providing an opportunity for residents to enjoy fine
dining, again indicating their willingness to abide by all
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conditions. Mr. John Baker, resident and businessman, questioned
whether or not the councilmember appellant could take action on
this matter. The city Attorney advised that it is not an
uncommon practice in all cities for a councilmember to appeal or
call for further review and they may vote provided that they
listen to all testimony. Mr. Baker asked if noise generated from
a piano in a private residence is going to be a future concern, I
stated there would be adequate parking if the lots were made
available in the evening hours, and spoke favorably of installing
parking meters. Mr. Tom Charara, Main street Cafe and Grill,
spoke in support of the Papillon single instrument request, even
if for a trial period. Mr. Ron Sesler, Ocean Avenue, spoke in
support of the request as an asset to the community, and
questioned how a sole instrument could be a problem. Mr. Nader
Tahvildari, Papillons owner/applicant, spoke in response to
comments of others, he stated the parking lot has been shared
between Papillons and Johns Market for many years, that the
musician could likely be himself as he plays both piano and harp,
that the requirements of the Coastal Commission had been
satisfied and the approvals granted. with regard to an impact on
the environment and from his profession as a chemical engineer,
stated his belief that music would not affect the environment,
and indicated his willingness to abide by the conditions of
approval and the laws of the city. with regard to in-lieu
parking, he stated the request is not for a new business license,
that his is an existing business merely asking for a single
musician, a single instrument as conditioned, and urged approval
of his request. Ms. Reva Olson, appellant, was allowed a
rebuttal statement, and offered her opinion that short term
profit should not be considered above the public interest and
certainly not disobeying the law, that the main issue to her was
not the piano, hours, or alcohol, even though that is part of the I
environmental impact, yet the environmental impact is the law,
that she was merely asking that things be done right, and offered
that the citizens have already been subjected to too much
litigation. She said the issue of procedures have been mentioned
in the past yet they continue unchanged, it is not just the .
parking issue but doing things right and in compliance with law,
and said she believed that the procedures being followed are not
only detrimental to the residents but the applicants as well,
that it would be less than honorable to subject the city to
further litigation, therefore recommended that the appeal be
honored.
Councilman Laszlo suggested that a decision on this matter be
postponed until the next meeting and possibly any legal issues
raised could be discussed by the Council in Closed Session. The
City Attorney confirmed that such discussion could occur as a
matter of threatened litigation. Laszlo moved, second by Doane,
to close the public hearing relating to the appeal of the
Planning Commission approval of Conditional Use Permit 92-13,
that this matter be continued until the January 11, 1993 meeting
at which time the public will be afforded the opportunity to
comment on the Negative Declaration.
AYES:
NOES:
Brown, Doane, Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
None Motion carried
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Councilman Laszlo inquired as to the status of an entertainment
ordinance and what effect that could have on this issue.
Councilmember Hastings noted her request for preparation of such
ordinance as well as a policy governing the issuance of CUP's for
entertainment permits. The city Manager responded that the
regulation of entertainment is somewhat involved, that
information has been obtained from several cities for comparison
purposes, that a number of issues need to be taken into
consideration, zoning and the application of the conditions as an
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example, as well as assurance that the document is defensible.
He indicated an uncertainty as to a specific time frame for
presentation of such ordinance to the Council for consideration.
with regard to the potential of setting a precedent with regard
to the appeal just heard, the City Attorney explained that at the
next meeting the issue under consideration will deal exclusively
with the Papillon Restaurant request, also that Papillons would
be required to abide by whatever standards for entertainment the
city may establish in the future. with regard to further
applications for entertainment, he noted that an ordinance
placing a moratorium on entertainment would require an
affirmative vote of four members of the Council, however
explained that mention of a previous moratorium on Main street
would need to be researched to determine if it dealt with
entertainment, which could affect similar enactment now, and
suggested that other options, such as additional environmental
analysis, could be a requirement. He recalled the Council action
on December 14th adopting a resolution requiring an initial study
for any proposal for intensification of use on Main street,
providing for a subsequent determination to require either a
negative declaration or environmental impact report, and noted
that although a negative declaration addresses the same issues,
an environmental impact report merely requires a more detailed
analysis of specific issues.
CITY MANAGER REPORTS
The City Manager advised that reports being received from the
National Weather Bureau now contain more detailed information
than in the past, the most recent reporting two storms
approaching the coast bringing intermittent heavy rain, winds and
cold weather starting late this evening or early tomorrow, and
expected to impact westerly facing beaches. He noted that sand
bags are available at the Public Works Yard and at city Hall,
that the First street beach area will remain open for access to
sand, that there have been meetings and conversations with Orange
County Search and Rescue, Orange County Fire relative to
volunteer firefighters, and County Flood Control, that the
Emergency Operations Center has been set up at the Police
Station, all personnel leaves have been canceled, that a number
of property owners have been provided instructions to assist in
the diversion of rain water in certain areas, that all of the
pumps and catch basins have been inspected, and there are
individuals who will provide surveillance of streets in an effort
to limit vehicle access in the event of flooding. The Manager'
also reported there will be exceptionally high tides during the
period of the approaching storms.
COUNCIL CONCERNS
Councilmember Hastings wished all a Happy New Year.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communications.
CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council to
adjourn the meeting until Monday, January 11th at 6:00 p.m. to
meet in Closed Session.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:28 p.m. by consensus of the
Council.
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January 11, 1993
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:04 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Forsythe
Councilmembers Brown, Doane, Hastings, Laszlo
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Bankston, city Manager
Mr. Barrow, city Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the City Council would meet in
Closed Session pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(b) to
discuss threatened litigation. It was the consensus of the
Council to adjourn to Closed Session at 6:05 p.m. The Council
reconvened at 7:04 p.m. with Mayor Forsythe calling the meeting
to order. The city Attorney reported the Council had discussed
the matter previously announced, no action was taken, and that a
confidential memorandum had been provided the Council during
Closed Session.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of
adjourn the meeting
the Chair, with
at 7:04 p.m.
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