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Environmental Quality Control Board
Minutes
December 10, 1996
Call to Order at 6:32 p.m.
L Pledge of Allegiance
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Roll Call
Present:
Absent:
Hurley, Rosenman, Voce, Christ, McGuire
Also Present:
Lee Whittenberg, Director of Development Services
Barry Curtis, Associate Planner
IB. Approval of Agenda
Motion by Hurley; second by Rosenman to approve the agenda as presented.
Motion Carried:
A YES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
5-0-0
Hurley, Rosenman, Voce, Christ, McGuire
None
None
IV. Oral Communications - none.
V. Consent Calendar
1. Receive and File - City Council Staff Report dated November 18, 1996
re: Status Report re: 1997 Air Quality Management Plan (AQMP). South
Coast Air Quality Management District
" 2. Receive and File - City Council Staff Report dated November 18, 1996
re: Receipt of ' 'Notice oflntent to Prepare an Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS) for the Disposal and Reuse of Marine Corps Air Station El
Toro"
3. Memorandum dated December 5,1996 re: Ability to Call Special
Meetings
Motion by Rosenman; second by Christ to move the consent calendar to after all
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scheduled matters have been considered. This was to allow boardmember McGuire to
review the staffmemo on the ability of the Board to hold special meetings.
Motion Carried:
A YES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
5-0-0
Hurley, Rosenman, Voce, Christ, McGuire
None
VL Public Hearings - None.
VII. Scheduled Matters
4.
Scoping Meeting - Hellman Ranch Specific Plan
Mr. Whittenberg presented a brief report to the Board. Mr. Whittenberg indicated
he would provide a brief overview of this meeting, then turn the floor over to the
City's environmental consultant. This is a very preliminary phase of the
environmental review process, which is not required by CEQA. The main purpose
is to take public comments and concerns for inclusion in the EIR. Staff has
identified major issues on the Notice of Preparation. These are basically all areas
listed in CEQA. He indicated the closing date for inclusion of comments at this
stage is December 30th. These concerns and comments will be included with the
Draft EIR.
Dave Bartlett, representing the applicant spoke briefly regarding the specifics of
the project. The project consists of an 18-hole golf course, wetland restoration
(23.1 acres of saltwater wetlands and 10 acres of fresh water wetlands), Gum
Grove Nature Park, Los Alamitos Retarding Basin, Commercial development and
interpretive center at the State Lands Parcel, approximately 70 single family
homes, continued mineral production and an extension of Adolfo Lopez Drive to
link up to the golf course. He felt the project would meet all federal, state and local
requirements.
Chris Webb, Moffatt & Nichol Engineers spoke regarding the grading design and
hydraulics of the wetland habitats. This plan is to isolate the wetlands from the
remainder of the site. The hydrology uses simple geometric shapes to ensure rapid
filling and drainage. He discussed the proposed layout, including locating the bird
habitats farthest from the golf course. There are a wide variety of habitats in this
site. The wetlands are protected by what is essentially a 10-foot high levee. They
propose using the existing culvert to supply fresh saltwater. Mr. Webb discussed
tidal flushing of the marsh, indicating a residence time of only 2 days for water.
Boardmember Rosenman suggested the EIR consultant consider how coliform and
other agents will affect the biology of the wetlands. Boardmember Hurley asked
that the EIR show how existing wetland areas compare to the proposed wetlands.
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Tony Baumkamp, Michael Brandman Associates discussed the ecologylbiology of
the wetlands. He discussed the great degree ofloss of historic wetlands. His goal
in this project is to create a full functioning ecosystem. There will be deep-water
habitats, tidal flats and wetland habitats. About half of the fresh water marshes
will be vegetation. This should provide important nesting and foraging areas. He
indicated they had found Belding-Savannah sparrows on the site this year. Finally,
he spoke of potential endangered species and plants, which might inhabit the area.
He indicated he was not a biologist and could not speak regarding coliforms.
Boardmember Rosenman asked the EIR consider keeping domestic animals from
the wetlands sites. Boardmember McGuire asked the EIR discuss whether any of
the wetlands would be exposed to the groundwater table and if so, how would the
wetlands be protected from this.
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Scott Magorien, Converse Consultants spoke regarding seismic and geologic
issues. He indicated they are proposing homes be located 175 feet from the main
splay of the Newport-Inglewood fault. This exceeds the State minimum standards
by 125 feet. Boardmember Rosenman asked ifit was Mr. Magorien's opinion that
the remainder of the site is not well suited for habitable homes. Mr. Magorien
indicated there are steps that could be taken to make development feasible in other
areas of the site. Dr. Rosenman asked that outside of special mitigation residential
development would be difficult. Mr. Magorien indicated that without mitigation
other parts of the site are not readily suited for residential construction. Ms.
McGuire asked the EIR consider the possibility of subsidence.
(Brief break taken 7:55 - 8:05)
PUBliC COMMENTS
Moira Hahn - asked that her comments be included verbatim. Ms. Hahn then
read a prepared statement to the Board. Staffhas included Ms. Hahn's statement
in its entirety as Attachment A.
Andrea Stoker - asked that her comments be included verbatim. Ms. Stoker then
read a prepared statement to the Board. Staff has included Ms. Stoker's statement
in its entirety as Attachment B.
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Wendy Morris - Ms. Morris asked the following items be considered in the EIR:
. animal shelter noise impacts
. building height of proposed homes and impacts on existing views
. a potential easement for Marina Hill drainage
. relocation of crude oil line behind Hill homes
. whether or not a separate access was needed for the golf course
. a need for adequate wetlands buffering
. a potential extension of Gum Grove park
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. irrigation of Gum Grove park
Jane McQoud -
Ms. McCloud asked the following items be considered in the EIR:
. inclusion of a tree buffer between the golf course and the Gum Grove
. maintain the Gum Grove access road into the Hellman property so the park
would remain accessible from both sides in an emergency
. there are seasonal ponds adjacent to the Gum Grove access road
Ken Kropf -
Mr. Kropf asked the following items be considered in the EIR:
. use of reclaimed water to irrigate the golf course
. potential of removal of Gum Grove park's parking area and removal of the
gate
BOARD COMMENTS
Rosenman -
. Page 19 - adequate consideration of fault rupture seismic issues.
. Page 21 - Emergency issues / better signalling on Seal Beach Boulevard
. Consideration of impacts on biologic resources
. Page 22 - discussion of fire hazard reduction, emergency routes
. Page 23 - storm water drainage, waste disposal, impact on regional water
supplies
McGuire -
. Traffic should be heavily addressed. Specifically regarding traffic from the golf
course
. Hill drainage issues considered
Hurley -
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increase the significant effects of the project rather than lessening them as
required by CEOA. because all of them include a substantial increase in the
number of dwelling units in the present proposal. He said the DEIR should
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stores. offices. and other non-residential usesAsked tAat an alternative
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be considered.
Voce -
. impacts from oil spills in the river
. would like EIR to include hydrological profile of fresh water marshes
. consider use of gray water in project
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The scoping session closed at 9:07 p.m.
5. Minutes of October 8,1996
Motion by Rosenman; second by Hurley to approve the Minutes of October 8,
1996.
Motion Carried:
A YES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
5-0-0
Hurley, Rosenman, Voce, Christ, McGuire
None
None
6. Minutes of November 18,1996
Motion by Rosenman; second by McGuire to approve the Minutes of November
18, 1996.
Motion Carried:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN :
V. Consent Calendar
3-0-2
Hurley, Rosenman, Voce
None
Christ, McGuire
1. Receive and File - City Council Staff Report dated November 18, 1996
re: Status Report re: 1997 Air Quality Management Plan (AQMP). South
Coast Air Quality Management District
2. Receive and File - City Council Staff Report dated November 18, 1996
re: Receipt of "Notice ofIntent to Prepare an Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS) for the Disposal and Reuse of Marine Corps Air Station El
T oro"
3. Memorandum dated December 5,1996 re: Ability to Call Special
Meetings
Motion by Rosenman; second by Christ to approve the Consent Calendar.
Motion Carried:
A YES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
VIII. Staff Concerns - none.
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5-0-0
Hurley, Rosenman, Voce, Christ, McGuire
None
None
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IX. Board Concerns
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Boardmember McGuire asked the City use a more prominent means of advertising for
these meetings.
x. Adjournment
Motion by Rosenman; second by Hurley to adjourn to January 21, 1997.
Motion Carried:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
5-0-0
Hurley, Rosenman, Voce, Christ, McGuire
None
None
The meeting was adjourned at 9:26 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
Barry Curtis, Secretary
Environmental Quality Control Board
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Commission Requests
1. Minutes of September 1996
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