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HomeMy WebLinkAboutEQCB 1998-04-29 . . . ; . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board Minutes of April 29, 1998 Call to Order at 6:30 p.m. L Pledge of Allegiance n. Roll Call Present: Christ, Hurley, McGuire, Rosenman, Voce Absent: None Also Present: Department of Development Services Craig Steele, Assistant City Attorney Barry Curtis, Associate Planner Culbertson. Adams & Associates Andi Culbertson, President . Diane Bathgate, Senior Planner m. Agenda Approval Chainnan Rosenman recommended the inclusion of a second Board Concerns section directly after the oral communications. Motion by Voce; Second by Christ to approve the agenda as amended. Motion Carried: AYES: NOES: ABSENT: 5-0-0 Christ, Hurley, McGuire, Rosenman, Voce None None IV. Oral Communications - None. V. Board Concerns Chainnan Rosenman asked the Board to consider a future meeting date, closing time for tonight's meeting and whether to impose a time limit on comments. . The Board discussed the date for a second meeting to consider this matter. The Board ultimately detennined to hold a second meeting on Wednesday, May 13th at 7:00 PM. 1 . . . . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 Chainnan Rosenman suggested the Board would allow people to yield time to other speakers if a speaking limit is imposed. The Board decided to hold off imposing a time limit at this time, but would consider one later depending on the number of speakers. The Board discussed a closing time for the meeting. After discussion the Board agreed to close the meeting at 9:30 PM. Chainnan Rosenman advised the public the purpose of this meeting. It's to elicit public comments on the adequacy 6fthe Draft Environmental Impact Report (DEIR.), not discuss the merits of the project. VL Consent Calendar - None. VL Public Hearings - None. VB. Scheduled Matters 1. Receipt of Public Comments and Board Review - Bixby Old Ranch Town Center Draft EIR Andi Culbertson of Culbertson, Adams & Associates gave a presentation on the purpose of an EIR. under CEQA and the environmental review process, the layout and makeup of this EIR., the project goals and approvals required to implement the proposed plan. Ms. Culbertson indicated the DEIR. was in the midst of a 45-day review period, which will end on May 29th. The public should focus comments on the adequacy of the DEIR., including additional mitigation measures, project alternatives, and possible impacts. The basis for these comments is very helpful responding to such comments. Based on public comments received during the review period, a Final EIR will be prepared. The Final EIR will include responses back to all comments received during the review period. The Chainnan opened the meeting to public comments at 7:35 PM Matt Stein - Rossmoor Mr. Stein indicated his primary areas of concern focus on aesthetics and land use. It's important to build a center that's appropriate for the area. He doesn't like the stores being proposed. He listed a. number of specific businesses his family would like to be part of the project if it is built. Helene Halpurin - Rossmoor Ms. Halpurin riterated concerns of previous speaker. Stressed importance of making the project appealing to the local market. She felt the proposed project would lower local property values and drive away the local inhabitants. A lower class of people will result in more crime. She felt the removal of a portion of the windrow would have impacts on noise, aesthetics and ~ir quality. She asked that the windrow remain. She presented staff Page 2 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 . with an article from the LA Times dated April 29, 1998 regarding Dana Woods tree removal. She suggested keeping the trees in front of the project. Virginia Hadley - Seal Beach Ms. Hadley agreed with the previous speaker. The trees in the windrow are local historical landmarks that have been there since she was young. They also provide oxygen and habitat. Delores Sartain - Rossmoor Ms. Sartain indicated traffic in this area is already unacceptable. It already takes several cycles of the light to cross Seal Beach Boulevard at St. Cloud during rush hour. Any impacts on traffic are significant impacts. The DEIR. shows a 68% increase in traffic. This will result in an increase in pollutants. She agreed with previous speakers that the windrow is a landmark and provides significant habitat for wildlife. She provided a list of signatures of people opposed to commercial development at this site . Sue Corbin - Seal Beach Ms. Corbin stressed the trees should not be removed. She expressed concern over the politicizing of this meeting process. The Bixby family must be more open with the public. She indicated a stream on the property is not discussed in the DEIR.. Bruce Stark knows all about this. It's supposed to be the drainage. Bixby should have to pay for the overpass. It's not in !the DIER that they will have to. The City's now going to pay for this and it's mitigation that stopped the project before. She expressed concerns with the MOU process. The EQCB recommendation should be heard by the Planning Commission. Doing otherwise is wrong and it's illegal. She doesn't know what the residents out there want, but they should have what they want. They'll have to use the initiative process to have what they want. She felt the DEIR doesn't adequately address airport noise. She doesn't think the residents want commercial. Residences cost money, if the people don't want commercial maybe the City will need to look at a mix. Bixby should have to pay for all the lights, roads and infrastructure. She finds the EIR to be skimpy. It doesn't address what's really going on out there. She expressed concerns with the size of the proposed church. How did they arrive at the decibel noise? It's going to overwhelm the community. This size church is totally out of place for the City. What is cost of the tennis courts to the City? This is a violation of Howard Jarvis in reverse; it's totally illegal. How is the land going to be sold? People have a right to know. Are there going to be fences around it? How is the fiscal surplus figured? The senior daycare seems excessive for the area. There's no study that shows it's needed. Low-income housing isn't addressed; this is a violation of State law. The project is overbuilt to suit the developer, instead of the community. Boardmember McGuire advised Ms. Corbin that the EQCB doesn't deal with the fiscal impacts. . . Ms. Culbertson indicated the bridge does not need to be widened for this project, the anticipated traffic can be handled through re-striping. The widening is needed as a result Page 3 04-29-98 EQCB Minules.doc . . : . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 of cumulative regional impacts, for which this project must pay a fair share. Additionally, Page 5-133 provides an extensive discussion on the former stream. It's been a drainage ditch since before 1964. Reg Clewley - Seal Beach Mr. Clewley felt the EQCB's work must be completed before the Planning Commission's work is complete. He felt any and all impacts should be significant and unavoidable because the City Staff and City Council is not responsible. The EQCB should table this matter until a responsible City Council is in place. The City cannot afford to run the tennis club, so it will revert back to Bixby. The eucalyptus trees must be preserved and not replaced. 10hn Unrath - Seal Beach Mr. Unrath said the EIR assumes that commercial development is economically viable. He doesn't think it is. He listed a number oflocal projects that are vacant. He recommended the project not be allowed ~o proceed until leases and tenants are in hand. Audrey Kime - Seal Beach Ms. Kime stressed that her earlier letter in no ways speaks from the College Park East Neighborhood Association, as Ms. Culbertson clarified earlier. She addressed the issue of jobslhousing balance, indicating that Seal Beach itself is housing rich. She addressed the issue of tree removal, she doesn't want to see the trees removed, but believes they may have to be removed someday anyway to widen the street. She's glad there's a replacement policy. The City should hire an arborist up front so he's familiar with the project. She expressed a concern about 5.5 acre buffer zone. Someday there will be a reconfiguration of this street and this land may swallow up for this. This dedication should be prior to development planning for the site. - Brief Break Taken -- Gary Marshall - Rossmoor Mr. Marshall had questions about the portion of Seal Beach Boulevard between Lampson and St. Cloud. Would the1widening be done through re-striping or would windrow be reduced in the 2020 plan? How wide are the lanes and how many of the windrow trees will be affected? The DEIR. doesn't clearly define the business mix; will they be uses complementing the neighborhood? Will the trees along driving range become denser? Chairman Rosenman asked him ifhe, as a paramedic, has concerns about emergency services. Mr. Marshall responded he already thinks there is reason for concern. He sees this getting worse over the 20 years for both police and fire. Milt Peterson - Rossmoor Mr. Peterson indicated he was pleased the DEIR considers bypass traffic into Rossmoor. He wished it had gone further to analyze impacts from new trips generated by the project. Regarding the loss of eucalyptus trees, the DEIR alludes to impacts on butterflies but doesn't discuss them. The DEIR doesn't specifically state why the trees have to be removed. He'd Page 4 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc . . ~ . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 like the EIR. to specifically address why light and glare spillover from project into Rossmoor is not a significant concern. The EIR addresses traffic from proposed church. However, it doesn't address the peaky nature of the traffic and what he feels will be major impacts. He would like to see the EIR address impacts on the commercial uses at Rossmoor Center. He'd like Bixby to tell the citizens what they really want. Is this really what they want? Bernard Beskind - Rossmoor Mr. Beskind discussed, where he likes to shop. If this development is a quality commercial center his family will frequent it. He felt the traffic study was done at an "oft" time of the year, missing summer and winter peaks. The consideration of impacts associated with the AFRC doesn't discuss or address major increases in aircraft traffic during emergency situations. He discussed traffic controls for the Rossmoor Center. He felt the signalization should be considered "regionally" for this area. He indicated he didn't see the merit of placing the senior care facility and hotel at the foot of a runway. This could lead to serious problems. . HJ Norton - Seal Beach Mr. Norton provided copy of an aerial photo showing the runways at the Los Alamitos AFRC. He indicated his councilperson is trying to remove the noise zone over the west end of the air station. This project places two large facilities directly under the flight path. Who's going to take responsibility for noise from air base? Every time the City decides to encroach or build on the air station we have hundreds of telephone calls. I'm asking you and the City, are you going to take the responsibility for the noise that's going to b~ generated from these aircraft flying over this particular project. This air station has been there a lot longer than any of Ross moor, Leisure World, East Gate and all of College Park East. This is the only military facility in the area in case of disaster. It will be the focal point for disaster control. During one disaster he could remember seeing fifty CHP cars parked on base. He said he had a larger aerial of this area. Boardmember Rosenman suggested he get it to City staff as soon as practical so the EQCB could review it prior to their next meeting. Roy Ibabin - 4373 Hazelnut Avenue. Seal Beach Mr. Ibabin addressed traffic generation. He referenced Table 21 on page V -83 of the DEIR. Examination of the table showed three elements of the Plan that contribute the bulk of the traffic: (l) the Town Center itself, 286,000 square feet which generates 13,660 daily trips; (2) the high-turnover restaurant which generates 1330 trips per day and (3) the church which generates 1,070 trips per day. Using the San Diego generation rate table referred to in the DEIR we see there's an understatement of about 40% in the traffic shown in Table 21 versus using the table and his own figures. The reason for the discrepancy is the people who prepared Table 21 chose to use the definition of regional shopping center for the Old Ranch Town Center instead of community shopping center. The regional town center is a center of 300,000 square feet and up whereas the community shopping center is between 100,000 -300,000 square feet --- the bracket this town center this falls into. Instead of using fifty (50) visits per square foot it should have been seventy (70) visits per square foot. While the difference may Page 5 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc . . . .' . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of Apri129, 1998 not seem significant, tJ:te 40% is significant. That increase multiplies out to all the other the traffic study speaks abbut 26 intersections studied and 6 are identified as being affected and needing mitigation. If the new numbers are used, it turns out that another 7 or 8 intersections are affected and need to be mitigated. The upshot is this development is too large for the area. The Bixby Co. owns this property and they are entitled to build within limits. His understanding of the MOU is that the Bixby Co. started out with a certain number of commercial acres. But the City, instead, elected to give them (in the MOU) some Variances in order to make this project bigger than what they were originally entitled to. Given the traffic that would be generated by a project of this size, that at a minimum, this project needs to be cut down to the original zoning size. Why should the City give additional zoning Variances to make the project bigger and make the problems in the community bigger. Boardmember Hurley asked what the San Diego generation rate table was? Mr. Ibabin said it could be obtained separately from the City of San Diego. Chairman Rosenman asked Mr. Ibabin asked if he would be able to loan this document to the City for photocopying. Ms. Culbertson said she had a copy and a copy will be provided to Member Hurley. Mr. Ibabin said this table was use~ but the wrong shopping center entry was used. Chairman Rosenman said this must be respo~ded to in writing in the Response to Comments. Secondly, Mr. Ibabin asked if the DEIR address economic impacts, besides trees, environment, traffic et cetera. If the new center causes the existing Rossmoor Center to become a second- class citizen and suffer more than it is suffering now, we'd be creating our own slum area. This would be like shooting ourselves in the foot but worse. If there is no economic analysis, shouldn't there be and ~ow will this be addressed? . Phillip Fife * 4301 Ironwood Avenue. Seal Beach Mr. Fife addressed several concerns as follows: City's Plan Mr. Fife said that Bixby has taken a number of shots tonight. He didn't think it's fair to describe the plan as Bixby's plan vis-a-vis the City's plan. "This is the brainchild of three secret sessions of the City Council conducted under the euphemism that they were meeting to discuss the purchaselsalelleasej or exchange of real property when in fact, none of those topics were being discussed. But rather, this plan was being discussed". Loss of Rap tors & Increase in Vermin With respect to the sufficiency of the OEIR, with respect to the trees, the OEIR. is deficient in that it does not discuss what will happen to the Raptors that currently dwen in those trees. Those birds, in addition to their beauty and aesthetic contributions to the quality of life, also rid the City of vennin suc~ as mice, rats, gophers. This is not discussed. The Raptors are gone forever when the trees are chopped down. The aesthetic issue is it's a catastrophe to take those trees down. The EIR should also address what will happen to the birds of prey, the possible increase in vermin and pests they control. Page 6 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc , . .: City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 . Lampson Avenue Traffic & Signal The DEIR. analyzes the impact on certain residential streets in Rossmoor as a result of bypassed traffic. For example, St. Cloud. No analysis exists for Lampson Avenue. In fact, Lampson Avenue seems to be dismissed as having any roll in this at all. Lampson Avenue has been a high-speed bypass to that congested area at the San Diego/Garden Grove freeways for 25 years. People get qff at the Garden Grove freeway as far east as Beach Boulevard. They race down LampSon Avenue to get on it at a non-signalized on ramp at Seal Beach Boulevard. This will only get worse as 18,000 to 20,000 cars are added to the area. The traffic on Lampson Avenue will increase even more. No mitigation is discussed or proposed for the clear significant impacts that,Lampson Avenue will experience. There is a full access, turn right, turn left driveway with no signal coming in to service the public driving range parking lot. This is around a blind curve, which will be made further blind by a 10' berm and trees. That curve is what kids ride to school. They will come around that blind curve, there will be traffic crossing in front of them to go into the parking lot, there will be traffic coming out going both right and left. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Right now we're not discussing a signal there because no one wants an extra signal. But after six or eight people are killed at that intersection we will be \talking about a signal there. The other driveway will further add traffic to Lampson Avenue but it is not as bad as the driveway at the driving range parking lot will be put in. . Shrinkage of Golf Course The EIR should addre~s the shrinkage of the actual playing area of the golf course. There are 280 acres ofR-G zoned land and we will wind up with 158 acres ofR-G zoned land when this is over with. That's 50 acres ofR-G zoned land that's going someplace. Part of that acreage is obviously going into the driving range and the parking lot associated with it. Part of it is the clubhouse itself. Comparison of the existing golf course to the new golf course should talk about what is the actual playing area that golfers can use now and what will they be able to use later, after you add the additional ponding capacity for extra water retention has been added. He felt this is significant because this is a non-equity, private country club. Ifthere is erosion in member support for the country club it could become economically non-viable. You could have a 30-year agreement with Bixby Co. but if it becomes economically non-viable, Bixby Co. may consider closing t~at golf course, coming to the City and propose rezoning the rest of the land C-2 and we could put a lot of large commercial there and generate a lot of sales tax revenue. The quality oflife in College Park East would deteriorate further. . Danger to People Factors against the previous plan was the risk of putting people in harm's way as a result of flight operations and construction on the golf course. If every disastrous air crash was reviewed, they always involve crashes in the mass-occupancy commercial structure. ThegSacramento air crash was into an ice cream parlor crowded with birthday celebrants. Houses stand up wen in air crashes; he cited examples. "So the danger has never been that you lose lots of people when you have an air crash in a residential neighborhood. You lose lots of people when you have an air crash in a mass occupancy commercial structure". The Senior Center is going to be located directly under a flight path, where the plans currently make a 180 Page 7 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc , , " . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 \ degree turn and go south over the Wildlife Station. It's a bad place to put that kind offacility. There is no discussion ,on the extra Lampson Avenue traffic. There's no discussion on what will happen as you co~e down Lampson Avenue to Seal Beach Boulevard to make a right- hand turn. Right now ,you can make a right-hand turn and fight your way into the Rossmoor Center. Once people are coming to your left and pour into the Bixby Town Center you have no chance to thread your way to the Rossmoor Center. You are locked in until you can make a lane switch, make a U-turn up the street and come back to the Rossmoor Center. Geologic Hazards It's a significant environmental impact to expose people to a geological hazard. Approximately three years ago there ~as discussion about finding another earthquake fault underlying the AFRC itself. Discussion at the time revealed this fault to have the capacity for a 6.0 Richter energy storage unit. There has been no discussion in the DEIR if this is a true fact, whether the fault has been identified but is inactive, or was the fault line sympathetically moved in conjunction with movement on the Newport-Inglewood fault and/or what the added seismic force is on any kind of structure built in this area would be, particularly mass occupancy structures versus single family homes. Traffic Numbers Mr. Fife indicated thafthis DEIR had been sent back to the consultant by the City's Planning Department to review traffic. He suggested it be sent back to have the traffic figures massaged downward -- not upward. He said the public is entitled to see the original numbers from the consultant. For example, the town center generates the highest number of traffic trips per day but there's not breakdown. Whereas the 13 acres are broken down in detail. What specific uses are we going to have in that town center? It's silly to think of that as a regional center with its lower trips per day when it could be a high intensity usage. Actual uses should be identified. Analyze the ,traffic that way. Impacts on Zoning The DEIR talks about changing the City's zoning to fit a revised zoning law. In particular, the church is proposed to be built on PLU zoned land. The zoning does not suggest a church as a public land use. In fact, the Constitution's First Amendment forbids government getting involved in religion. A church, under current zoning, is to be built in a C-O, C-l or C-2 zoning area. To change the PLU zone to accommodate a church is just a way to understate just how much land is going to be rezoned from R-G to commercial uses. Instead of the 25-30 acres mentioned, the figures js most likely 45-50 acres. Tennis Club There needs to be discussion of what happens to the Tennis Club when it reverts back to Bixby Co. The City is on record that it will not support the operation of the Tennis Club as a community center. The DEIR has "some mysterious analysis" of $191,000 of annual income coming in to support and offset a projected $221,000 operating cost for the Tennis Club as a community recreation center. But there is no explanation as where the $191,000 is coming from. This flies-in-the-face of the same analysis that was going to be done for the mixed-use plan when it was stated the club could not support itself and the City would not support it. Page 8 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc . . . . . . i City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of Apri129, 1998 Given the fact that the Tennis Club reverts to the Bixby Co. under this plan, we need to analyze the probability that it's going to revert to Bixby Co. and that it's going to be further developed. , Analysis on the Rossmoor Center Mr. Fife agreed with the previous speaker, saying that there really should be an analysis of the impact of the propose~ project on the Rossmoor Center. Leonard Wilson has made it very clear that he thinks he needs more customers not more competition. Mr. Fife's concern is that if we further drive the Rossmoor Center into submission, it will be declared a blighted zone and it will become a part of the Seal Beach Redevelopment Agency and it would encourage the tax increment financing going through the City and we'll see something like a mass-use car center , there. i Joe Siler * 4217 Birchwood. Seal Beach Mr. Siler said he was concerned with three things: traffic, trees, and views. Traffic The traffic problems discussed in Table 21 are vastly understated. Table 21 shows there are a net of 13,900 trips per day; the correct number is about 26,000 trips per day. He arrived at this figure by looking at Ar~ A and doing what Mr. Fife suggested - looking at the specific uses that the MOD set forth. Area A contains 70% of the traffic. It's only fair to divide it into its known uses, which are set forth in the MOD. Specifically, there is a gas station mini-market and a supermarket. ~ose two uses are high traffic generators and will ad 12,000 trips per day to the total, bringing it to 26,000. The SANDAG numbers are referenced in the table, Table 21 that the source of the numbers they use are the San Diego numbers. He used these same numbers to generate the 26,000 trips per day and that's twice as much traffic. There is further proof in the DEIR that that number is probably inaccurate. Later in the DEIR the consultant mentions the default plan alternative which involves 22 acres. It's listed as having 14,000 net trips per day. That's more trips than the DEIRlists for the 48-acre MOD plan. Someone may have neglected to change those numbers. Member Hurley asked which plan was termed the default plan? Mr. Siler said it's the existing zoned alternative. Mr. Siler said he didn't believe the DEIR realistically deals with the alternatives. The EIR should emphasize the Yiable alternatives and not just the theoretical alternatives. The Bixby Co. has indicated there are three (3) plans they are willing to build. Those are: (I) (2) (3) This current commercial plan --- termed theMOU Plan The default plan --- which is what they will build if they don't get consent to do anything else. The Mixed Use - Golf Course Home Plan --- which was presented about two years ago. Page 9 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc I . . '. . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 The EIR. should emph~ize and clearly show the relative environmental impacts of these three viable plans. One plan has only 5,000 vehicle trips per day. One plan protects all of the Eucalyptus trees. One plan protects the views of the golf course. One plan also provides for the recreational facility -- the Tennis Club converted to a community center. This plan is the Golf Course - Home Plan. The EQCB and the Planning Commission are ultimately going to have to decide between the three viable plans. Views Regarding views, Mr. Siler said there are 3,107 parking spaces. This equates to 30 acres of paved asphalt parking. This is where the replacement trees will go --- into parking space planters. Mike Sanders * 1213 Christy Lane. Rossmoor Mr. Sanders said he was going to talk about the trees, but that subject has been covered. He did continue to speak on the following concerns: Rossmoor Center Mr. Sanders was convinced that Rossmoor Center would deteriorate one way or the other. He was sure that 300,000 square feet of competing space across the street would hasten this. This is an impact, which should be addressed in the ErR, particularly with regard to crime. Accident Potential Zones Around AFRC Mr. Sanders referenced section 5, page 10 of the DEIR. The clear zones at the ends of the runway are located on base property. His concern is that ifbase activity were to increase these accident potential zones would extend well onto the proposed project. The AEULP specifically excluded churches, schools and restaurants from accident potential zones. This is stated in Section 3.2.2 of the AEULP document. What happens if the base operations increase? Specifically, how does that relate to the appropriateness of the land uses that have been proposed for this project? Land Uses Mr. Sanders said the City is considering a project that has had no attempt to solicit any input from the people who will be most affected by it --- the people in Rossmoor, College Park East, Rossmoor Highlands. He said he had real concerns for the viability of the project. Member Hurley asked if there were something on the Record that substantiates the AFRC is going to change the kind of flying expected at that base? Mr. Sanders said he didn't know anything about that but such an occurrence wouldn't surprise him given the fact a lot of other air installations are being phased out. The fact is the accident potential zones have a waiver only because there are a certain number of daily flights from that facility. If the flights were to increase in the future, those zones would have to be considered. What would happen here is that you'd already have a large project in place with accident potential zones over it. There's a reason why they don't want schools, churches and restaurants in these zones and yet schools, churches and restaurants are a part of this project. Page 10 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc . I . . . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 A good way to summarize his comment is there needs to be consideration that the base operations may increase. The consultant is basing their findings only on the current air activity at the base. Member McGuire asked if he were talking about increases in emergency or permanent activities? Mr. Sanders said he was talking about increases in average daily peak activities --- permanent. Eulalee Siler * Seal Beach Mrs. Siler referred to the objectives listed on page 3-2 of the DEIR. Mrs. Culbertson stated they were specifically the City's objectives and Mrs. Siler said she regrets that they are. Reviewing them she would agree because they deal heavily with topics that bring more revenue to the City. But those objectives don't include what the people north of the freeway want. Table 52 lists all the alternatives and listed how they conformed or answered those objectives. It seemed "grossly unf8ir" to Mrs. Siler to take the City-based objectives and rate the different alternative plans. She said they need to go back and see what the people in that area want developed before the plans are rated. Eucalyptus Trees Mrs. Siler said the arborist that examined those trees concluded the trees are very healthy with no sign of beetle infestation. Rossmoor Center Mrs. Siler said there are 400,000 square feet in the Rossmoor Center as compared to 572,00 square feet in the proposed project. The DEIR said there are 52 shops with a 15% overlap between the Rossmoor Center and the new shops. She felt the shops where that 14% overlap might occur are very major shops and are shops that bring in a great deal of tax revenue to the City. This would be the grocery store, the Thrifty's and the hardware store. If duplicated, the new shops would take revenue away from the Rossmoor Center. The Chairman closed the Public Comments section of this meeting. vm Staff Concerns Mr. Steele advised the EQCB that this is Mr. Curtis' last meeting with them as he has accepted employment at another city. IX. Board Concerns Member Christ indicated he wanted a copy of the San Diego figures document. Mrs. Culbertson said she would provide that and mentioned that using this document is not a simple matter of looking at the table and adding the figures. Chairman Rosenman thanked Mr. Curtis for the World Wide Web page and his work with the Page 11 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc I , - . . . City of Seal Beach Environmental Quality Control Board * Minutes of April 29, 1998 " , EQCB. He told Mrs. Culbertson that lighting spillover should be expanded on. At the next meeting he would like to see an expanded explanation on what the ALUC concerns are re this project. He wanted a copy of the CAL TRANS letter referring to the fact the nursing home and care facility were at the edge of this airport use there were special standards that had to be used. He wanted these standards expanded. Additionally, he said he was having a particular problem with a mitigation measure for the Alzheimers and Nursing facility. He said the mitigation as written is insufficient. Specifically, he mentioned informed consent versus coerced consent. He felt thi~ should be reworked and mitigated. Adjournment The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 9:25 p.m. Respectfully Submitted: Joan Fillmann1 Executive Secretary Department of Development Services APPROVAL: The EQCB Minutes of April 29, 1998 were approved by the Board on July 29, 1998. _ . I These Minutes were prepared by both Barry Curtis and Joan Fillmann. Page 12 04-29-98 EQCB Minutes.doc