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Seal Beach, California
August 11, 1986
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Seal Beach met
in regular adjourned session at 6:45 p.m. with Chairman
Wilson calling the meeting to order with the Salute to
the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman wilson
Agency Members Clift, Hunt, Risner
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Absent:
Agency Memb~r Grgas
Agency Member Grgas arrived at 7:13 p.m.
Also present: Mr. Nelson, Executive Director
Mr. Stepanicich, City Attorney
Mr. Knight, Director of Development Services
Mrs. Yeo, Secretary
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Clift moved, second by Hunt, to waive the reading in full
of all resolutions and that consent to the waiver of reading
spall be deemed to be given by all Agency members after
reading of the title unless specific request is made at
that time for the reading of such resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
PRESENTATION - SUPER 8 MOTEL I
The Executive Director announced that representatives of
Super 8 Motel's were in attendance to introduce their
organization, acquaint the Agency-with their proposal for
development of the State Lands site and financing of same,
noting that Agency may be requested to participate in their
proposed development. Mr. Dave Grotewohl, 989 East Hillsdale
Boulevard, Foster City, introduced himself as an attorney
for a group of limited partnerships. Mr. Grotewohl reported
that thus far approximately thirty-six million dollars
has been raised in five California limited partnerships,
that all of these public registered offerings have been
used to build ten hotels throughout California, required
to be operated as franchises of Super 8 Motels, a nationwide
franchising company with over four hundred hotels coast
to coast. He described their hotels as economy oriented,
comparable to a Best Western facility, ranging from sixty
to one hundred twenty rooms with color televisions, direct
dial telephones and most having swimming pool facilities.
He noted their Santa Ana facility as the closest to Seal
Beach and typical of what is envisioned for this community,
and described that complex, which he referred to as a motor
lodge. Mr. Grotewohl described the Seal Beach facility
as it is presently proposed as one hundred thirty guest I
rooms, provision for cooked breakfasts, and beer and wine
evening receptions, noting that the identity of the project
will most likely be described as a motor hotel, operated
under the Super 8 franchise. Mr. Grotewohl reported that
a publicly held limited partnership consisting of approximately
four thousand investors would own the Seal Beach facility
with common management under that partnership in conjunction
with the Barstow and Fisherman's Wharf facilities. He
explained that a motor lodge does not typically provide
Clift, Hunt, Risner, Wilson
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Grgas
Motion carried
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room service or a full service restaurant, as would a hotel,
however stated those services could be added if the market
warranted, and that the capability for a full service
restaurant would be built into the Seal Beach project.
In response to Council, Mr. Grotewohl stated that the group's
first hotel opened approximately 1979 or 1980, that ten
facilities currently exist in California, three in Florida,
reporting that none have been sold and none have failed,
that all partnerships are showing a positive cash flow
and above market rates in most, noting that the most mature
partnership, with three operating motels, are realizing
between fifteen to eighteen percent cash return on investment
for the most recent complete year. He acknowledged that
partnerships do occasionally borrow funds, however in
moderation, citing the recent lease of furniture, fixtures
and equipment for one facility, also explained that when
desirable land is available by lease, they acquire property
in that manner rather than purchase, and stated that of
eleven California properties, including Seal Beach, five
facilities are located on leased land. with regard to
a possible requirement for a full service restaurant, Mr.
Grotewohl explained that although they would have the
capability of providing that use, at this time marketing
studies indicate that is not the most highly recommended
use of the site, stating his feeling however, that there
would be a willingness to work with the City to provide
whatever facilities that are desirable. He pointed out
that an option could be to work with a restaurant developer
to operate a restaurant on the site. Further, he explained
that meeting rooms typically range from full scale dividable
rooms to small guest rooms equipped for conversion to meeting
rooms, one of the two concepts to be included in this project.
Again in response to the Agency, Mr. Grotewohl clarified
that Super 8 Incorporated is a nationwide franchising company
with no financial investment in the franchised hotels,
that there are eight limited partnerships, one of those
partnerships being Super 8 Lodgings, Five Limited, who
would have a substantial financial interest in the property.
He explained that the general partners have an interest
in the cash flow and equity of the partnership, their interest
being compensation for services performed, such as site
selection and financing. He also noted that based upon
a report prepared for them by a nationwide accounting and
marketing firm, it has been determined that the Seal Beach
site is very desirable for a hotel and that a good return
on their investment is forecast.
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Mr. Bob Rossi, architect/developer for Super 8, distributed
conceptual renderings of the proposed Seal Beach project
depicting an early California theme with tile roof, stucco
walls, colonnades and trellises, accentuating a Spanish
environment, with the project oriented towards Pacific
Coast Highway and First Street, and reported the room rates
are anticipated in the range of fifty dollars. Mr. Rossi
stated their intent is to provide breakfast service to
guests, however expressed concern with parking requirements
should a full service restaurant be required.
Agency Member Grgas arrived at 7:13 p.m.
Mr. Grotewohl reported that the State of California has
investigated the personal financial statements of the general
partners with regard to assignment of the lease of this
property, and although those persons do not have a financial
investment, they would be obligated to fulfill any debt
of the partnership. Mr. Rossi introduced Mr. Paul Ash,
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civil engineer with Van Dell & Associates, who has been
involved in determining the necessary off-site improvements,
their estimated costs and alternatives, stating that the
estimated cost of the improvements are quite extensive
and more than likely could not be absorbed totally by the
partnership. Mr. Ash stated his firm had been retained
to look into the utility contraints, off-site improvements,
and engineering concerns regarding development of the subject
property, much of the information compiled through discussions
with the City staff. Mr. Ash reported that due to the
elevation of the site, the property would need to be served
by a lift station, at an estimated cost of $68,000, and
the construction of a new sewer line parallel to that that
exists on First Street, at a cost of approximately $50,000
if it is determined the existing line is not usable. with
regard to water service, Mr. Ash reported the city has
indicated they would require two points of connection,
one possibility would be connection to the line that serves
Oakwood Apartments, the other to the line that is within
the First Street extension, however City staff has concern
as to its reliability, therefore there is a potential
requirement to replace approximately one thousand feet
of that line at an estimated cost of $150,000. Mr. Ash
noted that the Fire Department requires only one point
of connection, therefore the second point of connection
could possibly be used as a backup. He reported the costs
of undergrounding power is of great concern, noting that
undergrounding of the 66KV line in what would be First
Street has been estimated by the Edison Company to be about
$364,000, explaining that if that line were removed and
those facilities placed elsewhere, the cost could be similar
however not necessarily borne totally by this project,
also suggesting that the power poles could be utilized
as an interim measure pending improvements to First Street
at which time the power lines could be placed within the
median. Mr. Ash stated that the 12KV lines are on the
opposite half of First Street from the project, and the
cost of that undergrounding is not felt to be attributable
to this project. Mr. Ash suggested that the street could
be designed in such a way that the power lines could be
located behind the curb, therefore not necessitating
undergrounding. Mr. Ash stated it is anticipated that
improvements to First Street would be similar to those
to the south of Pacific Coast Highway, widening with a
landscaped median strip, each half of that improvement
estimated at $71,000, and an additional $20,000 for signal
improvements, adding that the cost for undergrounding gas
and cable services would not be significant. He noted
that no improvements are anticipated to Pacific Coast Highway
as that is a State roadway. Agency members inquired if
it is the intent to request Redevelopment Agency participation
in providing the off-site improvements, $633,000 the estimated
total cost. Mr. Ash responded that that would be a matter
of negotiation between the Agency and the developer, however
stated that given the extensive off-site public facility
improvements required for development of the site, it would
not be unusual for the local agency to participate in such
funding that could not be totally borne by a project, or
to provide an alternative funding source such as an assessment
district. with regard to additional sidewalk on Pacific
Coast Highway, Mr. Ash responded that the City could
incorporate a requirement for sidewalk improvements, subject
to approval by Caltrans.
The Executive Director clarified that the intent of this
presentati~n is to introduce the Agency to the Super 8
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organization and their conceptual development, stating
he has not received a formal request for participation
in providing the off-site improvements to date. Agency
Member Grgas recommended that the proforma for the project
be closely reviewed to determine if the improvements are
extraordinary costs that could not be borne by the development,
specifically a cash flow analysis, cost estimates, anticipated
rate of return, room rates, etc. Mr. Rossi acknowledged
that there is a dollar estimate for the off-site improvements,
however stated it is not yet certain that all of the
improvements will be necessary or to what degree, and requested
that the Agency only indicate their support for the type
of development proposed and possible participation in the
off-site improvement costs. Mr. Rossi noted that preliminary
estimates anticipate $130,000 annual revenue to the City
from bed tax alone, stating that the proposed development
for this site will generate more revenue than from any
other use, a viable development asthetically and economically.
On behalf of the Agency, Chairman wilson expressed appreciation
to the Super 8 organization for the presentation.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Wilson declared Oral Communications open. Mrs.
Barbara Rountree, 316 - 13th Street, inquired as to the
cost of the project and the estimated room rates. Mr.
Rossi responded that the project is estimated to cost 3.5
million dollars, that the rate for a single room, projected
a $250,000 participation in off-site improvement costs,
would be around $55, or approximately $50 if that expenditure
were not necessary. Mr. Scott Wildman, 99 Welcome Lane,
inquired if any difference between the natural and finished
grade of the site is foreseen. Mr. Rossi responded that
a preliminary report indicates a problem with on-site soil
conditions, and that it may be necessary to replace soil
with a special fill to stabilize the site, which could
change the grade up to three feet. Christopher Marra,
1009-1/2 Seal Way, complained that the public was not notified
of the presentation relating to the State Lands site, and
spoke in support of a quality hotel development with a
restaurant and banquet facilities. Mr. Bruce Stark, 204
Ocean Avenue, expressed his opposition to acceptance of
the first proposal for development of the State Lands site.
The Executive Director explained that if the development
proposal is consistent with the design criteria established
by the City, plans would be processed pursuant to provisions
of law, which include public hearings before the Planning
Commission and Council. The City Attorney noted that this
property is owned by the State and leased to a private
party, and should the development proposal meet all criteria
established by the City, it would be difficult to establish
grounds for denial of it's consideration. There being
no other communications, Chairman Wilson declared Oral
Communications closed.
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ADJOURNMENT
Clift moved,
8:15 p.m.
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NOES:
second by Risner, to adjourn the meeting at
Clift, Grgas, Hunt, Risner, Wilson
None Motion carried
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